Posted by Bumboklaat
Non confrontational and flightly. That annoys my cap placements already. It sounds like your making it more work/stressful to work with. Caps do have high standards tho so it just sounds like a bad team up
Posted by alexscaries
I met a Capricorn woman she was lovely and a great kisser.
Posted by GobbieThanks for the advice, really appreciate it. I guess this was just a life lesson by The Universe for me to speak up for myself more and solve conflict instead of running away all the time. I realised it's just really hard for me not only because I have Libra and Pisces placements in my main placements, but also because of my trauma responses from heavy abuse by my mother who I still live with. I don't really like defining who I am because of how she raised me but sometimes it is a huge reason that does apply like in this case to explain why I'm so non confrontational. Because my mother raised me so that every time I did try to "talk back" or speak up for myself, she would abuse me in some way. That's why I became scared to do so whenever anyone who exhibited an intimidating or scary or bossy demeanor like her. Just like my Capricorn classmate here. I'm not trying to get pity but I'm just hoping anyone else reading this can understand my side too.
You'll have to get her natal chart to get a better understanding, as it doesn't come across as typical Cap behaviour.
Withstanding her natal chart, I can only think of two possible reasons:
1) She's a January Cap (December Caps are usually more laidback).
2) The environment itself could bring out a level of competitiveness in those on your course. It's not sign specific and there will always be a few of them on every course.
As for you, I have one piece of advice: whenever you find yourself in these situations again, don't quietly walk away. Try to discuss the matter or speak out whenever necessary. People, in general can be weird, and all it takes is a misunderstanding or a failure to clear the air to worsen the situation.
Posted by LadyNeptuneI didn't say I expected credit. I'm actually a type of person who when I find something I'm super passionate about, I will put my mind to it and become one of the most determined and hard working people you'll know. But even with any task I'm given, I do the best with what I have and can do. But in this whole situation, it's just been so messy and lost with my whole group who some of us agree we've had lack of communication in general, it's been super hard.
I mean… she’s not wrong tho. You did bail on the project and left her to do that portion. Where did she lie? I mean, her delivery is shit. But were you really expecting her to give you credit for the writing portion you bailed on?
Posted by SassyKiwiI'm guessing you're a Capricorn. May I ask why you guys get passive aggressive then? I don't see how that's helpful or nice compared to being direct, mature and assertive? Passive aggressiveness to me is immature. And you read how my classmate acted. It's immature and petty. I now understand and admit I have some faults in this situation, but so does she. Passive aggressiveness is immature and not needed, especially if you're forced to work with that person.Posted by Bumboklaat
Non confrontational and flightly. That annoys my cap placements already. It sounds like your making it more work/stressful to work with. Caps do have high standards tho so it just sounds like a bad team up
I agree with this. I was always usually the one to informally initiate leadership and layout the structure of what needed to get done and allocate tasks among others but did not mind someone else stepping up and doing that. If I felt someone was not pulling their weight OPENLY (this is important, you can't just be caring in your head), I would passive aggressively imply certain things just because being direct and telling someone to get their shit together and contribute doesn't work. If she's not allocating tasks, I suggest you directly mention to her in front of the rest of the group how you guys should allocate parts to work on... Or just start working on something someone else hasn't covered and declare you'll be doing that. I don't understand why people wait for others instead of take their own initiative. This is probably a very important learning lesson for you OP.click to expand
Posted by allrounderI understand what your saying.Posted by LadyNeptune
I mean… she’s not wrong tho. You did bail on the project and left her to do that portion. Where did she lie? I mean, her delivery is shit. But were you really expecting her to give you credit for the writing portion you bailed on?
I didn't say I expected credit. I'm actually a type of person who when I find something I'm super passionate about, I will put my mind to it and become one of the most determined and hard working people you'll know. But even with any task I'm given, I do the best with what I have and can do. But in this whole situation, it's just been so messy and lost with my whole group who some of us agree we've had lack of communication in general, it's been super hard.
And the Capricorn girl did say "never mind, I'll do it myself". She has a voice that is very deep and boomy and she sounded fed up when she told me that even though I didn't say anything to piss her off other than asking her a question about our thing we were writing about. I get scared that I'll piss her off because she's angrily outbursted in our classes many times before. I'm scared and intimidated of her in general because of that and it's hard to read what she thinks or feels.
To me, when she told me that in her fed up tone, I simply thought she made up her mind. And I didn't want to aggravate her because I wanted to protect myself. Whenever someone sounds like they've made up their mind, I simply go about my own thing and let them do their thing. I can't mind read if someone changes their mind halfway. If you've changed your mind, you should communicate that. And she didn't do that either. So yeah I know, it's clear us two have a lack of communication..click to expand
Posted by TimoneLooking at your profile photo, are you a Libra? Surely you might get what I mean by the non confrontational side of a Libra, right? (other than me coming from an abusive family background), having Libra and Pisces in my chart, I realised makes me incredibly non confrontational and flighty. And this Capricorn girl has angrily outbursted in our classes many times before, I think that's another reason I'm so scared and intimidated by her is because I'm so scared that I'll tick her off and aggravate her and something bad will happen. Because whenever I've spoken up with my mother (the abusive parent), she'd abuse me. I think that's why I have incredible trouble in speaking up. But I have been working on that!
God I always hated these group projects in school. I was a bit of a perfectionist and a control freak and always ended up doing most of the work. Still trying to learn from my mistakes and be a better team mate. 🤭
You should have said something and not left. Insist on dividing the tasks and if she's not happy with your work then she can change it whatever she likes but she can't blame you for it later on. That passive aggressiveness on her part is really immature. You should call her out on it instead of getting annoyed in silence.
Posted by -CapriquariusI thought as much with Capricorns. But on a genuine note, when I am given any task, I actually do the best I can with what I have and am given. And especially when I'm passionate about something and put my mind to it, I'll be one of the hardest working, resilient and determined people you'll see. And I know, me not speaking up is definitely what snowballed this issue, but I didn't even mean to not help her write this paper we're doing. I went off to do separate research for our group that I realised no one had done yet.
Capricorn placments don't like lazy people and people who are trying to get work done by minimal effort. You say, you were working on group projects before. Maybe you did something before that triggered her.
I know few Capricorns, and I know they don't get annoyed by nothing
Posted by saggurl88No. I already mentioned here. I confided to my tutor about the situation frankly. I really trust this tutor of mine, she's super understanding, kind, comforting and helpful. She understood what I was going through and did her best to understand both sides because she knows the both of us as opposite type personalities.
Are you worried that she's gonna tell the teacher that you did nothing?
Why can't you review the work and offer up something to add?
You didn't pull your weight in the project and she's reminding you every chance she gets, so put some work in.
Posted by allrounderPosted by Timone
God I always hated these group projects in school. I was a bit of a perfectionist and a control freak and always ended up doing most of the work. Still trying to learn from my mistakes and be a better team mate. 🤭
You should have said something and not left. Insist on dividing the tasks and if she's not happy with your work then she can change it whatever she likes but she can't blame you for it later on. That passive aggressiveness on her part is really immature. You should call her out on it instead of getting annoyed in silence.
Looking at your profile photo, are you a Libra? Surely you might get what I mean by the non confrontational side of a Libra, right? (other than me coming from an abusive family background), having Libra and Pisces in my chart, I realised makes me incredibly non confrontational and flighty. And this Capricorn girl has angrily outbursted in our classes many times before, I think that's another reason I'm so scared and intimidated by her is because I'm so scared that I'll tick her off and aggravate her and something bad will happen. Because whenever I've spoken up with my mother (the abusive parent), she'd abuse me. I think that's why I have incredible trouble in speaking up. But I have been working on that!
And I agree, I do realise I have faults in this situation as well now but her passive aggressiveness was unneeded and just super immature. Leave that type of catty behaviour in high school..
You're right though, I do plan on asking her if we can have a video call so at least we'll have the comfort of our homes to discuss our issues as comfortably as possible.click to expand
Posted by allrounderOmg then just take the L and move on. Pointless to schedule a chat with her to discuss her bitchiness when the project is tomorrow and ya'll can just move on from this whole situation anyways.
I didn't mention in my post, but I've mentioned to my group that I was doing research work on ethics and other bits that I realised no one else in our group researched about but that our tutors were looking for to be explained in our final presentation tomorrow.
Posted by TruemaraThat's unfortunate.. So people who bully still proceed outside of high school into late adulthood too, huh?Posted by allrounderPosted by Timone
God I always hated these group projects in school. I was a bit of a perfectionist and a control freak and always ended up doing most of the work. Still trying to learn from my mistakes and be a better team mate. 🤭
You should have said something and not left. Insist on dividing the tasks and if she's not happy with your work then she can change it whatever she likes but she can't blame you for it later on. That passive aggressiveness on her part is really immature. You should call her out on it instead of getting annoyed in silence.
Looking at your profile photo, are you a Libra? Surely you might get what I mean by the non confrontational side of a Libra, right? (other than me coming from an abusive family background), having Libra and Pisces in my chart, I realised makes me incredibly non confrontational and flighty. And this Capricorn girl has angrily outbursted in our classes many times before, I think that's another reason I'm so scared and intimidated by her is because I'm so scared that I'll tick her off and aggravate her and something bad will happen. Because whenever I've spoken up with my mother (the abusive parent), she'd abuse me. I think that's why I have incredible trouble in speaking up. But I have been working on that!
And I agree, I do realise I have faults in this situation as well now but her passive aggressiveness was unneeded and just super immature. Leave that type of catty behaviour in high school..
You're right though, I do plan on asking her if we can have a video call so at least we'll have the comfort of our homes to discuss our issues as comfortably as possible.
PTSD need to work through that because unfortunately you will meet other bullies and u need to know how to stand up for yourself.click to expand
Posted by HypnotoadThank you, appreciate it. Definitely more motivated to use this as an opportunity to thicken my skin. I wish the people in this world weren't so harsh..
Fuck all the haters in here, Caps can be like this. Lowvibe cancers without the emotional manipulation just stone cold instead.
Grow a thicker skin is all you can do in this life ms Virgo.
Posted by LadyNeptuneYeah I suppose so. But after confiding in my tutor about this today, she was giving me advice and a choice. The choice is I either move on, heal and let this go because she said we will just move on to the next collaborative project. Or I talk with her to try solve this out. The thing is my course is very collaborative so who's to say I won't be in a group with her again?Posted by allrounder
I didn't mention in my post, but I've mentioned to my group that I was doing research work on ethics and other bits that I realised no one else in our group researched about but that our tutors were looking for to be explained in our final presentation tomorrow.
Omg then just take the L and move on. Pointless to schedule a chat with her to discuss her bitchiness when the project is tomorrow and ya'll can just move on from this whole situation anyways.
If your stuck in a group with her for the rest of the class term then I can understand trying to mediate and smooth things over. Otherwise just let sleeping dogs lie. If she was annoyed at you asking questions during the project imagine how aggro she'll be when you bring up her bitchiness AFTER the project is already completed. Save yourself the headache.click to expand
Posted by allrounderOr alternatively she gets more annoyed by you calling her out and actually becomes your enemy, going out of her way to make the class unbearable for you.Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by allrounder
I didn't mention in my post, but I've mentioned to my group that I was doing research work on ethics and other bits that I realised no one else in our group researched about but that our tutors were looking for to be explained in our final presentation tomorrow.
Omg then just take the L and move on. Pointless to schedule a chat with her to discuss her bitchiness when the project is tomorrow and ya'll can just move on from this whole situation anyways.
If your stuck in a group with her for the rest of the class term then I can understand trying to mediate and smooth things over. Otherwise just let sleeping dogs lie. If she was annoyed at you asking questions during the project imagine how aggro she'll be when you bring up her bitchiness AFTER the project is already completed. Save yourself the headache.
Yeah I suppose so. But after confiding in my tutor about this today, she was giving me advice and a choice. The choice is I either move on, heal and let this go because she said we will just move on to the next collaborative project. Or I talk with her to try solve this out. The thing is my course is very collaborative so who's to say I won't be in a group with her again?
My tutor was just concerned and empathetic for me because she knows how scared and intimidated I am of the Cap girl now, and she knows how that girl is too. The aggression she exudes. And my tutor brought up her own experiences with aggressive alpha females she's had to deal with before too, and she was just saying that when she's faced the conflict head on to try solve it, even if it didn't work out, she knew she could come out the other side knowing that she at least did her best to try solve the conflict and can therefore move on with closure.
So she thinks I could try talking with Cap girl to at least say I tried as well. Because my tutor doesn't want me to find a cool group to collaborate with later in the year but then find that Cap girl is with that group of people too then I feel too scared to join or bring out my best potential because of her presence in the group just like how she's in my group now. And that Cap girl is pretty popular, like she knows a lot of the people in our course.
I've had a real think though all day now, and I've decided I wanna at least improve myself, say I did my best to solve this conflict. I don't wanna keep running away from conflict for my whole life anymore. I'm gonna stand up for myself, even if she'll burn me in the video call. F*ck it. And yeah it's Mercury Retrograde, but better to try make peace with my enemies than die never knowing if it could've been solved, right?click to expand
Posted by allrounderPosted by SassyKiwiPosted by Bumboklaat
Non confrontational and flightly. That annoys my cap placements already. It sounds like your making it more work/stressful to work with. Caps do have high standards tho so it just sounds like a bad team up
I agree with this. I was always usually the one to informally initiate leadership and layout the structure of what needed to get done and allocate tasks among others but did not mind someone else stepping up and doing that. If I felt someone was not pulling their weight OPENLY (this is important, you can't just be caring in your head), I would passive aggressively imply certain things just because being direct and telling someone to get their shit together and contribute doesn't work. If she's not allocating tasks, I suggest you directly mention to her in front of the rest of the group how you guys should allocate parts to work on... Or just start working on something someone else hasn't covered and declare you'll be doing that. I don't understand why people wait for others instead of take their own initiative. This is probably a very important learning lesson for you OP.
I'm guessing you're a Capricorn. May I ask why you guys get passive aggressive then? I don't see how that's helpful or nice compared to being direct, mature and assertive? Passive aggressiveness to me is immature. And you read how my classmate acted. It's immature and petty. I now understand and admit I have some faults in this situation, but so does she. Passive aggressiveness is immature and not needed, especially if you're forced to work with that person.
And when she told me she'd do it by herself, I simply took that as she made up her mind so I'll go do my own thing. I guess I didn't mention but I chose to do my own research to add to our shared group folder. I went to research the ethics, our purpose of our project overall and other bits of research for our piece instead. Which is something some other people in our group are doing, but I realised no one had researched and written up the ethics, purpose etc. so I did it. But this Capricorn girl is still giving me the backhand despite her knowing I did research instead.
I can't read someone's mind if they've changed their mind. If she had changed her mind, I wish she would've communicated that to me too. Our relationship in the prior years has never been smoothly communicative anyway, but yeah this time it's real bad.click to expand
Posted by Hypnotoadbut they're sooo attractive
Fuck all the haters in here, Caps can be like this. Lowvibe cancers without the emotional manipulation just stone cold instead.
Grow a thicker skin is all you can do in this life ms Virgo.
Posted by virgoOPPP
i feel the same way about Capricorn women
but i'm also Cap dominant but i feel like i'd still be passive-aggressive even without it but more on the passive side really
like there was this Cap from way back in school who acted this way around me but her BFF was a Virgo sun whose bday was just a day away from mine which is weirder coz one time she kinda made sure that I heard her telling this other girl that she's always wanted to be my friend
and i'm like: 'huh? but she's like always passive-aggressively insulting me."
they're so confusing which is a real shame since I find their axis sooo pretty
Posted by virgoOPPP
i feel the same way about Capricorn women
but she's like always passive-aggressively insulting me."
Posted by Undinei was class president and she was VPPosted by virgoOPPP
i feel the same way about Capricorn women
and i'm like: 'huh? but she's like always passive-aggressively insulting me."
This is how Caps are asking for your attention when they desperately need itclick to expand
Posted by allrounderI get it but I'm not telling you to pick a fight with her. You're both adults and you should be able to discuss things calmly and if she wants to be a bitch about it then it's her problem. Don't let it get to you. How long do you have to work with her? Maybe there's other tasks you can do instead.Posted by Timone
God I always hated these group projects in school. I was a bit of a perfectionist and a control freak and always ended up doing most of the work. Still trying to learn from my mistakes and be a better team mate. 🤭
You should have said something and not left. Insist on dividing the tasks and if she's not happy with your work then she can change it whatever she likes but she can't blame you for it later on. That passive aggressiveness on her part is really immature. You should call her out on it instead of getting annoyed in silence.
Looking at your profile photo, are you a Libra? Surely you might get what I mean by the non confrontational side of a Libra, right? (other than me coming from an abusive family background), having Libra and Pisces in my chart, I realised makes me incredibly non confrontational and flighty. And this Capricorn girl has angrily outbursted in our classes many times before, I think that's another reason I'm so scared and intimidated by her is because I'm so scared that I'll tick her off and aggravate her and something bad will happen. Because whenever I've spoken up with my mother (the abusive parent), she'd abuse me. I think that's why I have incredible trouble in speaking up. But I have been working on that!
And I agree, I do realise I have faults in this situation as well now but her passive aggressiveness was unneeded and just super immature. Leave that type of catty behaviour in high school..
You're right though, I do plan on asking her if we can have a video call so at least we'll have the comfort of our homes to discuss our issues as comfortably as possible.click to expand
Posted by virgoOPPPReally? It seems they come for people who in their opinion don't look like they're doing "enough" work then.. They sound like debilitating workaholics in that case. Who said we have to work for their approval anyway? F*ck that nonsense.Posted by UndinePosted by virgoOPPP
i feel the same way about Capricorn women
and i'm like: 'huh? but she's like always passive-aggressively insulting me."
This is how Caps are asking for your attention when they desperately need it
i was class president and she was VP
she thinks i'm 'not doing enough'
like chill girl we're in high schoolclick to expand
Posted by allroundermy Capricorn ex was a workaholic. i worked even harder when we got together to try to impress him. but you know what? he'd STILL criticize you if you work too much. they just criticize in general like i was so subservient in that relationship that i just felt resentful. status-wise i was leagues above him just being honest like how dare this dude neg me. some of them are deeply insecure but comes off arrogant externally. and they will ALWAYS bring up how you suck at communication when they STONEWALL.Posted by virgoOPPPPosted by UndinePosted by virgoOPPP
i feel the same way about Capricorn women
and i'm like: 'huh? but she's like always passive-aggressively insulting me."
This is how Caps are asking for your attention when they desperately need it
i was class president and she was VP
she thinks i'm 'not doing enough'
like chill girl we're in high school
Really? It seems they come for people who in their opinion don't look like they're doing "enough" work then.. They sound like debilitating workaholics in that case. Who said we have to work for their approval anyway? F*ck that nonsense.click to expand
Posted by TimoneNo no. Today is our assessment day now. And I do want to be mature about this and ask her if we can do a video call tomorrow in the comfort of our own homes so we feel more relaxed I guess and I'm gonna attempt speaking with an assertive approach to try get my emotions and point across to her without being victimising, aggressive or accusing or demanding as possible. She can respond in whatever way she wants to, but yeah, if she's not gonna cooperate despite my efforts to solve our conflict in an assertive manner then I will just have to move on and let this go.Posted by allrounderPosted by Timone
God I always hated these group projects in school. I was a bit of a perfectionist and a control freak and always ended up doing most of the work. Still trying to learn from my mistakes and be a better team mate. 🤭
You should have said something and not left. Insist on dividing the tasks and if she's not happy with your work then she can change it whatever she likes but she can't blame you for it later on. That passive aggressiveness on her part is really immature. You should call her out on it instead of getting annoyed in silence.
Looking at your profile photo, are you a Libra? Surely you might get what I mean by the non confrontational side of a Libra, right? (other than me coming from an abusive family background), having Libra and Pisces in my chart, I realised makes me incredibly non confrontational and flighty. And this Capricorn girl has angrily outbursted in our classes many times before, I think that's another reason I'm so scared and intimidated by her is because I'm so scared that I'll tick her off and aggravate her and something bad will happen. Because whenever I've spoken up with my mother (the abusive parent), she'd abuse me. I think that's why I have incredible trouble in speaking up. But I have been working on that!
And I agree, I do realise I have faults in this situation as well now but her passive aggressiveness was unneeded and just super immature. Leave that type of catty behaviour in high school..
You're right though, I do plan on asking her if we can have a video call so at least we'll have the comfort of our homes to discuss our issues as comfortably as possible.
I get it but I'm not telling you to pick a fight with her. You're both adults and you should be able to discuss things calmly and if she wants to be a bitch about it then it's her problem. Don't let it get to you. How long do you have to work with her? Maybe there's other tasks you can do instead.click to expand
Posted by virgoOPPPGurl, you need to not get pulled into that toxic cycle.. That or wait for a kind hearted non toxic Capricorn, if that's even possible lol you don't deserve to feel like not enough despite your efforts. I know we Virgos like to be in service to people and are givers, but you need to give kind service to yourself too. Leave that toxicity behind.Posted by allrounderPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by UndinePosted by virgoOPPP
i feel the same way about Capricorn women
and i'm like: 'huh? but she's like always passive-aggressively insulting me."
This is how Caps are asking for your attention when they desperately need it
i was class president and she was VP
she thinks i'm 'not doing enough'
like chill girl we're in high school
Really? It seems they come for people who in their opinion don't look like they're doing "enough" work then.. They sound like debilitating workaholics in that case. Who said we have to work for their approval anyway? F*ck that nonsense.
my Capricorn ex was a workaholic. i worked even harder when we got together to try to impress him. but you know what? he'd STILL criticize you if you work too much. they just criticize in general like i was so subservient in that relationship that i just felt resentful. status-wise i was leagues above him just being honest like how dare this dude neg me. some of them are deeply insecure but comes off arrogant externally. and they will ALWAYS bring up how you suck at communication when they STONEWALL.
it's too bad coz they're so hot. *criesclick to expand
Posted by allrounderi won't criticize you if i want youPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by allrounderPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by UndinePosted by virgoOPPP
i feel the same way about Capricorn women
and i'm like: 'huh? but she's like always passive-aggressively insulting me."
This is how Caps are asking for your attention when they desperately need it
i was class president and she was VP
she thinks i'm 'not doing enough'
like chill girl we're in high school
Really? It seems they come for people who in their opinion don't look like they're doing "enough" work then.. They sound like debilitating workaholics in that case. Who said we have to work for their approval anyway? F*ck that nonsense.
my Capricorn ex was a workaholic. i worked even harder when we got together to try to impress him. but you know what? he'd STILL criticize you if you work too much. they just criticize in general like i was so subservient in that relationship that i just felt resentful. status-wise i was leagues above him just being honest like how dare this dude neg me. some of them are deeply insecure but comes off arrogant externally. and they will ALWAYS bring up how you suck at communication when they STONEWALL.
it's too bad coz they're so hot. *cries
Gurl, you need to not get pulled into that toxic cycle.. That or wait for a kind hearted non toxic Capricorn, if that's even possible lol you don't deserve to feel like not enough despite your efforts. I know we Virgos like to be in service to people and are givers, but you need to give kind service to yourself too. Leave that toxicity behind.
but lol I thought Virgos were critical enough. I totally think the Cap girl I'm dealing with is incredibly insecure because I know she has an anxiety condition too and uses the bunch of people she knows on our course to feel relevant and validated within herself. It's not good. That's the thing I'm currently working away from, letting other people determine the value of your worth by their approval and validation of you as a valuable person. You need to value yourself first. And that's what I'm working on. I refuse to let people determine my worth now.click to expand
Posted by GobbieI have no idea about number one listed above. Your Libra placements may square her Sun. Libra and Capricorn are both cardinal signs which square each other (tension). I agree with number two above. The entire world is on edge right now, and mental illness is coming out all over the place.
You'll have to get her natal chart to get a better understanding, as it doesn't come across as typical Cap behaviour.
Withstanding her natal chart, I can only think of two possible reasons:
1) She's a January Cap (December Caps are usually more laidback).
2) The environment itself could bring out a level of competitiveness in those on your course. It's not sign specific and there will always be a few of them on every course.
As for you, I have one piece of advice: whenever you find yourself in these situations again, don't quietly walk away. Try to discuss the matter or speak out whenever necessary. People, in general can be weird, and all it takes is a misunderstanding or a failure to clear the air to worsen the situation.
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