Posted by MyStarsShineReally??
My Cap mother .... wooohh stubborn as hell. She was never in the wrong!
Posted by pooface222I love your honesty and that you’re so aware of yourself!Posted by MyStarsShine
My Cap mother .... wooohh stubborn as hell. She was never in the wrong!
Really??
Jesus Christ!
Sounds like me! Sadly!
Has it ever ruined things for her. Eg situations she's been in where things could have been a lot nicer for her had she just loosened up a little?
I'm asking this to other Caps because I'm starting to notice that I'm so DEEPLY stubborn that I'm making things unpleasant for myself where they could have been nice.click to expand
Posted by Undine
It's good you identified this flaw in yourself, so you could do something about it.
Relax, distract yourself, be kind, go with the flow (be more Pisces)...
Posted by WarAngel
Y'all are a pain in the ass but not as bad as Virgos. 🤦🏻♂️
Posted by WarAngelWhat are Virgos like?
Y'all are a pain in the ass but not as bad as Virgos. 🤦🏻♂️
Posted by WarAngelPosted by CocosugarPosted by WarAngel
Y'all are a pain in the ass but not as bad as Virgos. 🤦🏻♂️
No one is as bad as virgos in that regard. 😂
You can eventually reason with Capricorn IF your argument is also beneficial to them.click to expand
Posted by MyStarsShineThanks so much 😊 I've got to be honest because having just reached the age of 45 last week, I really began noticing just how Effing STUBBORN I am and how Miserable it makes me afterwards!Posted by pooface222Posted by MyStarsShine
My Cap mother .... wooohh stubborn as hell. She was never in the wrong!
Really??
Jesus Christ!
Sounds like me! Sadly!
Has it ever ruined things for her. Eg situations she's been in where things could have been a lot nicer for her had she just loosened up a little?
I'm asking this to other Caps because I'm starting to notice that I'm so DEEPLY stubborn that I'm making things unpleasant for myself where they could have been nice.
I love your honesty and that you’re so aware of yourself!
It affected her rship with my sister and i because she was so uptight and stubborn. My Aries father thankfully knew how to apologise which helped.
Mum would hardly see the other person’s point of view so growing up with that caused tension. I was closer to her than my sister was ... they clashed like hell. I know mum found me a lot easier ...click to expand
Posted by HypnotoadDo you mean Virgos or Capricorns?
They're really annoying won't take any advice or do what you tell them unless they think it's their own idea. Then you're like I told you so and They're like "no it's different"
Posted by UndineHard pass
It's good you identified this flaw in yourself, so you could do something about it.
Relax, distract yourself, be kind, go with the flow (be more Pisces)...
Posted by pooface222Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by pooface222Posted by MyStarsShine
My Cap mother .... wooohh stubborn as hell. She was never in the wrong!
Really??
Jesus Christ!
Sounds like me! Sadly!
Has it ever ruined things for her. Eg situations she's been in where things could have been a lot nicer for her had she just loosened up a little?
I'm asking this to other Caps because I'm starting to notice that I'm so DEEPLY stubborn that I'm making things unpleasant for myself where they could have been nice.
I love your honesty and that you’re so aware of yourself!
It affected her rship with my sister and i because she was so uptight and stubborn. My Aries father thankfully knew how to apologise which helped.
Mum would hardly see the other person’s point of view so growing up with that caused tension. I was closer to her than my sister was ... they clashed like hell. I know mum found me a lot easier ...
Thanks so much 😊 I've got to be honest because having just reached the age of 45 last week, I really began noticing just how Effing STUBBORN I am and how Miserable it makes me afterwards!
I mentioned earlier that I'm mostly stubborn when I'm hurt! But there has to come a time where I let go and just chill out a bit.
Eg if someone has hurt me, depends what it is obviously - the more the hurt the more stubborn I get - I get so wound up by that person that even when they're being nice to me, all I can think is "Shut up! Go Away! Don't Talk to me!"
I don't say it. But I'm thinking it!
And I don't ever let it go or loosen up and just go with the flow of that person being nice.
I just end up ruining what could have been a nice chat.
Then I actually wonder why that person won't speak to me.
Grrrrr!
So I can see myself in your Cap mother!
Its interesting though that you have a Aries father.
What was that like?
Because Cap Woman & Aries Man is one of the worst combinations ever!
And my ex-husband is an Aries!
Yet he was Controlling AND Stubborn! May have been his Capricorn Moon lol!click to expand
Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by pooface222Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by pooface222Posted by MyStarsShine
My Cap mother .... wooohh stubborn as hell. She was never in the wrong!
Really??
Jesus Christ!
Sounds like me! Sadly!
Has it ever ruined things for her. Eg situations she's been in where things could have been a lot nicer for her had she just loosened up a little?
I'm asking this to other Caps because I'm starting to notice that I'm so DEEPLY stubborn that I'm making things unpleasant for myself where they could have been nice.
I love your honesty and that you’re so aware of yourself!
It affected her rship with my sister and i because she was so uptight and stubborn. My Aries father thankfully knew how to apologise which helped.
Mum would hardly see the other person’s point of view so growing up with that caused tension. I was closer to her than my sister was ... they clashed like hell. I know mum found me a lot easier ...
Thanks so much 😊 I've got to be honest because having just reached the age of 45 last week, I really began noticing just how Effing STUBBORN I am and how Miserable it makes me afterwards!
I mentioned earlier that I'm mostly stubborn when I'm hurt! But there has to come a time where I let go and just chill out a bit.
Eg if someone has hurt me, depends what it is obviously - the more the hurt the more stubborn I get - I get so wound up by that person that even when they're being nice to me, all I can think is "Shut up! Go Away! Don't Talk to me!"
I don't say it. But I'm thinking it!
And I don't ever let it go or loosen up and just go with the flow of that person being nice.
I just end up ruining what could have been a nice chat.
Then I actually wonder why that person won't speak to me.
Grrrrr!
So I can see myself in your Cap mother!
Its interesting though that you have a Aries father.
What was that like?
Because Cap Woman & Aries Man is one of the worst combinations ever!
And my ex-husband is an Aries!
Yet he was Controlling AND Stubborn! May have been his Capricorn Moon lol!
Dad was quick tempered but very generous and loved mum, my sis and I very much. He was quick to anger but quick to apologise too. He was rebellious in the workplace and fought for peoples’ rights, he was fearless
I can never remember Mum saying sorry or any other Caps I’ve known. It’s their flaw i think? At least you’re aware of it, not many are so I take my hat off to you for that (it’s a red beret today) 😀click to expand
Posted by HypnotoadI think you're right there.
They're really annoying won't take any advice or do what you tell them unless they think it's their own idea. Then you're like I told you so and They're like "no it's different"
Posted by pooface222They were together a long time. Very different but in the main seemed to workPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by pooface222Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by pooface222Posted by MyStarsShine
My Cap mother .... wooohh stubborn as hell. She was never in the wrong!
Really??
Jesus Christ!
Sounds like me! Sadly!
Has it ever ruined things for her. Eg situations she's been in where things could have been a lot nicer for her had she just loosened up a little?
I'm asking this to other Caps because I'm starting to notice that I'm so DEEPLY stubborn that I'm making things unpleasant for myself where they could have been nice.
I love your honesty and that you’re so aware of yourself!
It affected her rship with my sister and i because she was so uptight and stubborn. My Aries father thankfully knew how to apologise which helped.
Mum would hardly see the other person’s point of view so growing up with that caused tension. I was closer to her than my sister was ... they clashed like hell. I know mum found me a lot easier ...
Thanks so much 😊 I've got to be honest because having just reached the age of 45 last week, I really began noticing just how Effing STUBBORN I am and how Miserable it makes me afterwards!
I mentioned earlier that I'm mostly stubborn when I'm hurt! But there has to come a time where I let go and just chill out a bit.
Eg if someone has hurt me, depends what it is obviously - the more the hurt the more stubborn I get - I get so wound up by that person that even when they're being nice to me, all I can think is "Shut up! Go Away! Don't Talk to me!"
I don't say it. But I'm thinking it!
And I don't ever let it go or loosen up and just go with the flow of that person being nice.
I just end up ruining what could have been a nice chat.
Then I actually wonder why that person won't speak to me.
Grrrrr!
So I can see myself in your Cap mother!
Its interesting though that you have a Aries father.
What was that like?
Because Cap Woman & Aries Man is one of the worst combinations ever!
And my ex-husband is an Aries!
Yet he was Controlling AND Stubborn! May have been his Capricorn Moon lol!
Dad was quick tempered but very generous and loved mum, my sis and I very much. He was quick to anger but quick to apologise too. He was rebellious in the workplace and fought for peoples’ rights, he was fearless
I can never remember Mum saying sorry or any other Caps I’ve known. It’s their flaw i think? At least you’re aware of it, not many are so I take my hat off to you for that (it’s a red beret today) 😀
🤩
They sound really sweet together.
Interestingly though it was me who always said sorry. And if I was quick to anger, I'd be quick to say sorry there too.
My Aries husband would be quick to anger and criticism, but would Never apologise! Even when I'm sorry to him he would never be aorry.
Drove me nuts!click to expand
Posted by MyStarsShineNot sure. I know he has Moon in Capricorn same as me but not sure if its square.Posted by pooface222Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by pooface222Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by pooface222Posted by MyStarsShine
My Cap mother .... wooohh stubborn as hell. She was never in the wrong!
Really??
Jesus Christ!
Sounds like me! Sadly!
Has it ever ruined things for her. Eg situations she's been in where things could have been a lot nicer for her had she just loosened up a little?
I'm asking this to other Caps because I'm starting to notice that I'm so DEEPLY stubborn that I'm making things unpleasant for myself where they could have been nice.
I love your honesty and that you’re so aware of yourself!
It affected her rship with my sister and i because she was so uptight and stubborn. My Aries father thankfully knew how to apologise which helped.
Mum would hardly see the other person’s point of view so growing up with that caused tension. I was closer to her than my sister was ... they clashed like hell. I know mum found me a lot easier ...
Thanks so much 😊 I've got to be honest because having just reached the age of 45 last week, I really began noticing just how Effing STUBBORN I am and how Miserable it makes me afterwards!
I mentioned earlier that I'm mostly stubborn when I'm hurt! But there has to come a time where I let go and just chill out a bit.
Eg if someone has hurt me, depends what it is obviously - the more the hurt the more stubborn I get - I get so wound up by that person that even when they're being nice to me, all I can think is "Shut up! Go Away! Don't Talk to me!"
I don't say it. But I'm thinking it!
And I don't ever let it go or loosen up and just go with the flow of that person being nice.
I just end up ruining what could have been a nice chat.
Then I actually wonder why that person won't speak to me.
Grrrrr!
So I can see myself in your Cap mother!
Its interesting though that you have a Aries father.
What was that like?
Because Cap Woman & Aries Man is one of the worst combinations ever!
And my ex-husband is an Aries!
Yet he was Controlling AND Stubborn! May have been his Capricorn Moon lol!
Dad was quick tempered but very generous and loved mum, my sis and I very much. He was quick to anger but quick to apologise too. He was rebellious in the workplace and fought for peoples’ rights, he was fearless
I can never remember Mum saying sorry or any other Caps I’ve known. It’s their flaw i think? At least you’re aware of it, not many are so I take my hat off to you for that (it’s a red beret today) 😀
🤩
They sound really sweet together.
Interestingly though it was me who always said sorry. And if I was quick to anger, I'd be quick to say sorry there too.
My Aries husband would be quick to anger and criticism, but would Never apologise! Even when I'm sorry to him he would never be aorry.
Drove me nuts!
They were together a long time. Very different but in the main seemed to work
It’s great you apologise . Does your ex have sun square moon (in Cap) ... those two things together can be difficult?click to expand
Posted by pooface222Aries and Cap are squared. Check the degrees of his sun and Moon to see how close they are.Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by pooface222Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by pooface222Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by pooface222Posted by MyStarsShine
My Cap mother .... wooohh stubborn as hell. She was never in the wrong!
Really??
Jesus Christ!
Sounds like me! Sadly!
Has it ever ruined things for her. Eg situations she's been in where things could have been a lot nicer for her had she just loosened up a little?
I'm asking this to other Caps because I'm starting to notice that I'm so DEEPLY stubborn that I'm making things unpleasant for myself where they could have been nice.
I love your honesty and that you’re so aware of yourself!
It affected her rship with my sister and i because she was so uptight and stubborn. My Aries father thankfully knew how to apologise which helped.
Mum would hardly see the other person’s point of view so growing up with that caused tension. I was closer to her than my sister was ... they clashed like hell. I know mum found me a lot easier ...
Thanks so much 😊 I've got to be honest because having just reached the age of 45 last week, I really began noticing just how Effing STUBBORN I am and how Miserable it makes me afterwards!
I mentioned earlier that I'm mostly stubborn when I'm hurt! But there has to come a time where I let go and just chill out a bit.
Eg if someone has hurt me, depends what it is obviously - the more the hurt the more stubborn I get - I get so wound up by that person that even when they're being nice to me, all I can think is "Shut up! Go Away! Don't Talk to me!"
I don't say it. But I'm thinking it!
And I don't ever let it go or loosen up and just go with the flow of that person being nice.
I just end up ruining what could have been a nice chat.
Then I actually wonder why that person won't speak to me.
Grrrrr!
So I can see myself in your Cap mother!
Its interesting though that you have a Aries father.
What was that like?
Because Cap Woman & Aries Man is one of the worst combinations ever!
And my ex-husband is an Aries!
Yet he was Controlling AND Stubborn! May have been his Capricorn Moon lol!
Dad was quick tempered but very generous and loved mum, my sis and I very much. He was quick to anger but quick to apologise too. He was rebellious in the workplace and fought for peoples’ rights, he was fearless
I can never remember Mum saying sorry or any other Caps I’ve known. It’s their flaw i think? At least you’re aware of it, not many are so I take my hat off to you for that (it’s a red beret today) 😀
🤩
They sound really sweet together.
Interestingly though it was me who always said sorry. And if I was quick to anger, I'd be quick to say sorry there too.
My Aries husband would be quick to anger and criticism, but would Never apologise! Even when I'm sorry to him he would never be aorry.
Drove me nuts!
They were together a long time. Very different but in the main seemed to work
It’s great you apologise . Does your ex have sun square moon (in Cap) ... those two things together can be difficult?
Not sure. I know he has Moon in Capricorn same as me but not sure if its square.
I think he has Mercury in Aries, while I have Mercury in Capricorn though. So for Communication its a double-whammy of bad!
Its a shame though because he has Mars in Pisces, and I have Venus in Pisces but somehow I think the combination of our Sun & Mercury signs was more powerful than our Mars & Venus sadly...click to expand
Posted by pooface222Its a very difficult sign....Saturn is tough going!Posted by Hypnotoad
They're really annoying won't take any advice or do what you tell them unless they think it's their own idea. Then you're like I told you so and They're like "no it's different"
I think you're right there.
Because one of the things I'm noticing is that in a relationship when a partner has hurt me, and he tries to make it better, I almost pretty much don't care or notice his efforts.
My therapist said "We all have limitations."
My ex husbands limitation was being able to apologise to me verbally, in person, and talk to me in a way that melts away all the nasty things he said.
That is what I wanted & needed from him.
His apology and his way of fixing our marriage was to book a 5 day holiday to somewhere we both always wanted to go.
But..
He spent 5 days with his mouth shut. Day & Night. It just made me angry.
I wanted him to TALK to me. Make me feel loved with his WORDS!
He hurt me with words.
So I wanted him to heal me with words.
We could even have just been at home and had a nice talk.
So..i got angry because I was hurt because of MORE silence from him!
I failed to see that he was trying to fix our marriage via a holiday we both always wanted.
Because..as you said in your post, Capricorns 'won't take any advice.....unless they think its their own idea.'
Yup!
I would only have accepted that my husband was trying to fix our marriage IF he SPOKE to me.
Which is what I wanted..and therefore MY idea of how I want him fixing our marriage.
Result?
I ruined the holiday! I got angry every night and failed to just shut my mouth,; take a deep breath and realise my husband IS trying!
I actually f**king HATE being a Capricorn!!click to expand
Posted by MyStarsShineMy sister is Taurus and she is stubborn as hell too!Posted by pooface222Posted by Hypnotoad
They're really annoying won't take any advice or do what you tell them unless they think it's their own idea. Then you're like I told you so and They're like "no it's different"
I think you're right there.
Because one of the things I'm noticing is that in a relationship when a partner has hurt me, and he tries to make it better, I almost pretty much don't care or notice his efforts.
My therapist said "We all have limitations."
My ex husbands limitation was being able to apologise to me verbally, in person, and talk to me in a way that melts away all the nasty things he said.
That is what I wanted & needed from him.
His apology and his way of fixing our marriage was to book a 5 day holiday to somewhere we both always wanted to go.
But..
He spent 5 days with his mouth shut. Day & Night. It just made me angry.
I wanted him to TALK to me. Make me feel loved with his WORDS!
He hurt me with words.
So I wanted him to heal me with words.
We could even have just been at home and had a nice talk.
So..i got angry because I was hurt because of MORE silence from him!
I failed to see that he was trying to fix our marriage via a holiday we both always wanted.
Because..as you said in your post, Capricorns 'won't take any advice.....unless they think its their own idea.'
Yup!
I would only have accepted that my husband was trying to fix our marriage IF he SPOKE to me.
Which is what I wanted..and therefore MY idea of how I want him fixing our marriage.
Result?
I ruined the holiday! I got angry every night and failed to just shut my mouth,; take a deep breath and realise my husband IS trying!
I actually f**king HATE being a Capricorn!!
Its a very difficult sign....Saturn is tough going!
The great thing is you’re very aware of yourself and faults. Ive met Caps who arent at all, even if the people around them point out their flaws...
Imagine being that stubborn?
Impossible to deal with!click to expand
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