prominence of saturn/pluto aspects

This topic was created in the Astrology forum by trick on Monday, June 1, 2020 and has 14 replies.
discovered something extremely interesting here recently,

while studying some transits i noticed there occured a conjunction between saturn and pluto

when these planets interact it usually symbolizes tyranny, corruption, abuse of power.

i know this is an extremely intimidating aspect. when these 2 come together its a recipe for disaster.

when these two come in contact it can mean seriously volatile geopolitical events in the world, here is a chronological list compiling several times throughout history where there were prominence in saturn and pluto coming together with their corresponding events.

in 410-412, there was a conjunction between pluto and saturn, this was around the time rome was ransacked by barbarians. it was also a 2 deg. orb. REMEMBER THAT!

in the early 1300s, there was a conjunction between pluto and saturn, this lead to the bubonic plague.

in 1912-1923 there was a square between pluto and saturn. this eventually lead to the rise of fascism in europe.

in 1914, there was a conjunction between pluto and saturn, this lead to WW1 and the dissolving of the russian empire

in 1931-1941, there was a square between pluto and saturn, this lead to WW2.

in 1947, there was a conjunction between pluto and saturn, marking the year between the divide of india and pakistan, the following year, israel declared independence from the british.

in 1982, another pluto/saturn interaction came into play and soon enough there was a massive economic recession and some of the highest rates of unemployment of its time since the great depression, as well as the aids crisis the year before, the collapse of the soviet bloc., escalation of the cold war, the eruption of the kilauea volcano in hawaii (which ended up being the longest volcanic eruption of all time and stayed erupting for decades)

on 9/11, there was a pluto/saturn conjunction, a similar 2 degrees as the one from 410 (note the callback!, also note how there were similar levels of grief, destruction, and devastation.)

on january 22nd, 2020, is the latest interaction between the two planets. 22 degrees in capricorn. this feels exceptionally potent. will last for an approximate 2 more years. said to cause disruption of power on a global scale, stimulating geopolitical action. angular aspects such as this one can forsee natural disasters, especially those pertaining to volcanoes. notice how there are international riots against lockdown and especially black lives matter protests/riots/looting in the U.S.

later this year mars will enter retrograde in aries (starting in late june or july, according to my 2020 ephemeris.)

with the aries mars and this pluto/saturn mess..... i see a TOTAL mess. not to be dramatic, but this could eventually rise to another world war, considering the history of these aspects. if not, something very close.

this is not to cause fearmongering or any conspiracy. i just thought this was INCREDIBLY interesting to point out. another thing to note, hindu and christian astrologists have already predicted this. i am definitely not the first to notice this mess.

if i have made any inaccurate statements regarding historical events, i apologize! history isnt my strongsuit lol.

what do yall think about this? lemme know.
i didnt notice someone else posted about this! :/ i just know that its gonna get scarier as this year goes on. i'll probably go to some country like switzerland that never gets involved with international discourse lol
Posted by Chicadee

Some of my friends in Germany believe they're going to dissolve the Euro within 1-3 years too. Italy will go first then Germany... I'm not sure the economic implications of that but pretty sure it'd be like a plate shift of some kind.
i heard about that a while ago! and since (i think) pluto is in capricorn right now, this could definitely point to the economic implications u talked about
Ah shit, I have this natal placement and its disconcerting to say the least.
I feel like there's this heavy pressure in the air like all its gonna take is one push before everything goes splat and I'm scared to be honest. With these riots and covid I don't think people are going to be able to take much more. Things are starting to disintegrate and glossy marketing campaigns cheap media entertainment isn't cutting it anymore .
Posted by jezzyboo21

I feel like there's this heavy pressure in the air like all its gonna take is one push before everything goes splat and I'm scared to be honest. With these riots and covid I don't think people are going to be able to take much more. Things are starting to disintegrate and glossy marketing campaigns cheap media entertainment isn't cutting it anymore .
oh its scary for sure. but one good thing has come out of it, we are slowly separating ourselves from the delusional world view that we and previous generations have had instilled upon us and are rising up in revolt for justice. i hope things pan out well for us.
Posted by Chicadee

another user posted a link to a site about this aspect, an interpretation, from dec 22nd.. I read it, I forget the guy's name, maybe they'll come around and post it again. It was about 80% correct, and spot on with the pandemic activity.

Also noted there's about 3 conjunctions lending this one some juice...

Just looking at the ingredients already it's going to be an ugly year. I'd almost like to hide in Canada like..from Halloween until maybe January 2021..


https://astrobill.com/2019/12/22/2020-triple-conjunction-jupitersaturnpluto/
I have the conjunction natally...the energy feels normal tbh at least for me. Like shit crazy but idk...I don't feel worried. Maybe too because my city dealt with what's currently going on years ago. Like everything down to a T.... protesting, riots, cops kneeling and walking with protesters...then it spread (riots) but wasn't as bad as it is now...still was crazy but not as bad....then it all calmed down and disappeared and it's like people forgot this all happened before.

This just feel like an amped up version with other things that have happened as well. Like the last straw...which shouldn't be surprising.
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Posted by jezzyboo21

I feel like there's this heavy pressure in the air like all its gonna take is one push before everything goes splat and I'm scared to be honest. With these riots and covid I don't think people are going to be able to take much more. Things are starting to disintegrate and glossy marketing campaigns cheap media entertainment isn't cutting it anymore .


oh its scary for sure. but one good thing has come out of it, we are slowly separating ourselves from the delusional world view that we and previous generations have had instilled upon us and are rising up in revolt for justice. i hope things pan out well for us.
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we have to be careful not to trade one authoritarian for a worse one
Wait till Mars moves into Aries at the end of this month and squares Pluto

Confrontations and power struggles

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Posted by PinsAndNeedles

I have ♇ square ♄

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lol, me too, 1 degree

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Doesn't that mean that yall will just recognize the energy?

Like "Oh, all that nasty conflict + tension I feel inside myself is developing outside now."

Really though... if you have the aspect natally and it comes up what is the effect usually? 🤔


I don't pay much attention to aspects when I look at real life, honestly. I've said more than once that I feel completely calm in the middle of chaos when other people are freaking out, but the current state of affairs is a bit much even for me.


It occurred to me today that a lot of these people have probably wanted to riot, loot, set fire and break shit like this since Trump got elected.
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....and that’s just the cops lol
Posted by MyStarsShine

Wait till Mars moves into Aries at the end of this month and squares Pluto

Confrontations and power struggles

💥💥💥💥💥💥

😳
GOD i know LMAO things could get real tense real soon!!
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Posted by MyStarsShine

Wait till Mars moves into Aries at the end of this month and squares Pluto

Confrontations and power struggles

💥💥💥💥💥💥

😳


GOD i know LMAO things could get real tense real soon!!
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Mars square Pluto can be dangerous 😬
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Posted by MyStarsShine

Wait till Mars moves into Aries at the end of this month and squares Pluto

Confrontations and power struggles

💥💥💥💥💥💥

😳


GOD i know LMAO things could get real tense real soon!!


Mars square Pluto can be dangerous 😬


So....this wouldn't be the time to apply for a risky job?
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Maybe not but check your personal transits too.