The bad things people say about Scorpios are more true for Leos, at least the men.

This topic was created in the Astrology forum by deckedandecker on Friday, February 5, 2021 and has 38 replies.
I almost feel like if Pluto is domicile in Scorpio, it should be exalted in Leo.

Everything people say about Scorpios being vindictive, hateful, dark, paranoid, and masters at screwing others over is more true for Leos. I find that Leo men are heavily driven by pride to the point where they will go as low as possible and abuse every rule to get even. If they have to ruin countless lives to do it, they will do just that.

The difference is, I feel like Leos just hide it better. Like a Leo is that friendly neighborhood cop who you find is corrupt and can hurt you more than a crook can. A Leo is like that friendly neighbor you thought was good all along but he has had his fair share of dark things he has done.
I agree.....



I think my Leo hairstylist is purposely cut extra off my hair... luckily my hair grows fast

Also when she was cutting my hair, her convo on the phone was about violence....


LMAO



I still wanna smash and IDGAF

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Posted by ELIGAB

I think my Leo hairstylist is purposely cut extra off my hair... luckily my hair grows fast

Also when she was cutting my hair, her convo on the phone was about violence....


LMAO



I still wanna smash and IDGAF


women of all signs can be psychos, but Leo men to me are manly and chill
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I think the women are more chill then the men honestly


Leo works better for females.....
I agree. I do not like Leo Men at all. They are so annoying and uninteresting! And I am neutral to Leo Women, more neutral-good maybe.

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I think the women are more chill then the men honestly


Leo works better for females.....

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I think my Leo hairstylist is purposely cut extra off my hair... luckily my hair grows fast

Also when she was cutting my hair, her convo on the phone was about violence....


LMAO



I still wanna smash and IDGAF


women of all signs can be psychos, but Leo men to me are manly and chill


I think the women are more chill then the men honestly


Leo works better for females.....


The bad traits about LEO men for me is that

1) They are traditional and want to be catered too

2) Most of them seek women who are on the same wavelength, if they are a powerhouse, they want a woman on the same A game (which isn't a bad thing, but sheet sounds exhausting)

3) They like their Ego stroked

4) They can be cold like colder than the Himalayas


Otherwise No I don't find them manipulative, dark, bitter, etc, at all, i find them the opposite actually unless they have HEAVY Water placements
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If you happen to outshine a Leo, they can become all bitter, etc;.. it's actually quite vicious too... 🤭

The sun don't shine forever and they can be dark lol

I prefer the manipulation/mood swings or whatever from the lovely water creatures..... it feels better 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Fire can be heartless..

How could you be so HEARTLESS 🎤🎤🎤🎵

I don't see the men like this at all. I work with one, have dated others. The one I work with is bossy, but I'm still able to tell him what I will and wont do. I will go the extra mile for him if he needs anything but he's not going to tell me what to do. When I've gotten mad at him, he was more worried about it then I was, and said it was awkward at work and I needed to start talking to him again. I love Virgo moons lol

He has a temper and I've seen it used towards others, but never me.

It's usually me getting pissed at Leos and them laughing. Most get over things too quickly to be vengeful.

What sign are you really?

You seem to get fires signs all wrong.
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Leos (especially the men) are actually more insecure than they let on but, at the same time, they are easily envious of others.

Combine that with their selfishness, overbearing pride and boundary issues, this would largely explain why they often tend to screw over those closest to them.

Leo ex was appearantly envious of my family stating I was too dependent. Lies I’m independent just love my family. So he made sure I distanced slowly throughout the years. He admitted it in the end.
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I call bullshit. I've had the pleasure of many Leo men in my life (family, friends, relationships, roommates) Leos ain't like that at all.


But you're not a man, so the dynamics are completely different.

When Leos feel insecure or threatened by your mere presence, that's when the knives covertly come out.

Find a Leo woman who feels intimidated by you (for whatever reason and beyond your control) and you'll soon find out.


So they only feel insecure or threatened by the same sex? I would think the opposite sex could easily also make them feel insecure.

You said the men were worse than the women, but given what you just said and not being a man yourself, how did you come to that conclusion? I've seen Leo men threatened and not act like this. They deal with it at the time, then it's done. At least from what I have seen of my Leo brother, 2 close male friends growing up, a male roommate and an ex of 5 years (all Leo men) I've never once seen this kind of behaviour coming from them. Also, none of them have Scorpio in their chart.. maybe the Leos that act like that have strong Scorp placements?
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Again liars manipulation ect is not Scorpio placements!
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Posted by Piscivore

Leos (especially the men) are actually more insecure than they let on but, at the same time, they are easily envious of others.

Combine that with their selfishness, overbearing pride and boundary issues, this would largely explain why they often tend to screw over those closest to them.

Leo ex was appearantly envious of my family stating I was too dependent. Lies I’m independent just love my family. So he made sure I distanced slowly throughout the years. He admitted it in the end.
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Something to healthy wanting to compete for ALL the attention
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I call bullshit. I've had the pleasure of many Leo men in my life (family, friends, relationships, roommates) Leos ain't like that at all.


But you're not a man, so the dynamics are completely different.

When Leos feel insecure or threatened by your mere presence, that's when the knives covertly come out.

Find a Leo woman who feels intimidated by you (for whatever reason and beyond your control) and you'll soon find out.


So they only feel insecure or threatened by the same sex? I would think the opposite sex could easily also make them feel insecure.

You said the men were worse than the women, but given what you just said and not being a man yourself, how did you come to that conclusion? I've seen Leo men threatened and not act like this. They deal with it at the time, then it's done. At least from what I have seen of my Leo brother, 2 close male friends growing up, a male roommate and an ex of 5 years (all Leo men) I've never once seen this kind of behaviour coming from them. Also, none of them have Scorpio in their chart.. maybe the Leos that act like that have strong Scorp placements?
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What makes you think that Piscivore is not a man?

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I call bullshit. I've had the pleasure of many Leo men in my life (family, friends, relationships, roommates) Leos ain't like that at all.


But you're not a man, so the dynamics are completely different.

When Leos feel insecure or threatened by your mere presence, that's when the knives covertly come out.

Find a Leo woman who feels intimidated by you (for whatever reason and beyond your control) and you'll soon find out.


So they only feel insecure or threatened by the same sex? I would think the opposite sex could easily also make them feel insecure.

You said the men were worse than the women, but given what you just said and not being a man yourself, how did you come to that conclusion? I've seen Leo men threatened and not act like this. They deal with it at the time, then it's done. At least from what I have seen of my Leo brother, 2 close male friends growing up, a male roommate and an ex of 5 years (all Leo men) I've never once seen this kind of behaviour coming from them. Also, none of them have Scorpio in their chart.. maybe the Leos that act like that have strong Scorp placements?


What makes you think that Piscivore is not a man?


is it that bastard gobells or whatever

no wonder such a negative user
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Don't know... Goebbels was a German nazi, the closest to Hitler Straight Face
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I call bullshit. I've had the pleasure of many Leo men in my life (family, friends, relationships, roommates) Leos ain't like that at all.


But you're not a man, so the dynamics are completely different.

When Leos feel insecure or threatened by your mere presence, that's when the knives covertly come out.

Find a Leo woman who feels intimidated by you (for whatever reason and beyond your control) and you'll soon find out.


So they only feel insecure or threatened by the same sex? I would think the opposite sex could easily also make them feel insecure.

You said the men were worse than the women, but given what you just said and not being a man yourself, how did you come to that conclusion? I've seen Leo men threatened and not act like this. They deal with it at the time, then it's done. At least from what I have seen of my Leo brother, 2 close male friends growing up, a male roommate and an ex of 5 years (all Leo men) I've never once seen this kind of behaviour coming from them. Also, none of them have Scorpio in their chart.. maybe the Leos that act like that have strong Scorp placements?

Again liars manipulation ect is not Scorpio placements!


yes it is . maybe you're not like that neither is my brother

but I've come across Scorpio women that are liars and venomous
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That can be said of any sign
The only Leo I know is a creep and a womanizer. Hes not very vindictive.
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Posted by blackphvse

I call bullshit. I've had the pleasure of many Leo men in my life (family, friends, relationships, roommates) Leos ain't like that at all.


But you're not a man, so the dynamics are completely different.

When Leos feel insecure or threatened by your mere presence, that's when the knives covertly come out.

Find a Leo woman who feels intimidated by you (for whatever reason and beyond your control) and you'll soon find out.
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I think they are extremely competitive as you say. I think it goes hand in hand with their insecurity. They want what you have and think they are deserving of it, just as much, if not more then you.

Sounds like ambition though. They bitch and whine, but still will be competitive and work for it.
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I call bullshit. I've had the pleasure of many Leo men in my life (family, friends, relationships, roommates) Leos ain't like that at all.


But you're not a man, so the dynamics are completely different.

When Leos feel insecure or threatened by your mere presence, that's when the knives covertly come out.

Find a Leo woman who feels intimidated by you (for whatever reason and beyond your control) and you'll soon find out.


I think they are extremely competitive as you say. I think it goes hand in hand with their insecurity. They want what you have and think they are deserving of it, just as much, if not more then you.

Sounds like ambition though. They bitch and whine, but still will be competitive and work for it.


They're not going to make midnight phone calls to your parents.

Just lol of course LEO men are competitive but they're not psychos like that. At least the majority, there may be a few out there.
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I agree with that. I think they are too sweet to be Psychos. Too childlike and playful, similar to Aquarius.
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I call bullshit. I've had the pleasure of many Leo men in my life (family, friends, relationships, roommates) Leos ain't like that at all.


But you're not a man, so the dynamics are completely different.

When Leos feel insecure or threatened by your mere presence, that's when the knives covertly come out.

Find a Leo woman who feels intimidated by you (for whatever reason and beyond your control) and you'll soon find out.


So they only feel insecure or threatened by the same sex? I would think the opposite sex could easily also make them feel insecure.

You said the men were worse than the women, but given what you just said and not being a man yourself, how did you come to that conclusion? I've seen Leo men threatened and not act like this. They deal with it at the time, then it's done. At least from what I have seen of my Leo brother, 2 close male friends growing up, a male roommate and an ex of 5 years (all Leo men) I've never once seen this kind of behaviour coming from them. Also, none of them have Scorpio in their chart.. maybe the Leos that act like that have strong Scorp placements?


What makes you think that Piscivore is not a man?


is it that bastard gobells or whatever

no wonder such a negative user


In my head I thought it was Pisco.. I think I was wrong. LMAOO


Nah, not Pisco.

But she is on dxp right now. Big Grin


Now I feel bad for thinking that user was her. I can't keep track of peoples accounts here anymore, when I saw that name I just assumed it was her. My bad.


Well it does look like her old user name so its understandable, but this person is mad negative, they never say anything nice

it's GOEBBELS - that cap guy
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LMAO! Not Goebbels. His name was Gobby.
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Posted by blackphvse

I call bullshit. I've had the pleasure of many Leo men in my life (family, friends, relationships, roommates) Leos ain't like that at all.


But you're not a man, so the dynamics are completely different.

When Leos feel insecure or threatened by your mere presence, that's when the knives covertly come out.

Find a Leo woman who feels intimidated by you (for whatever reason and beyond your control) and you'll soon find out.


So they only feel insecure or threatened by the same sex? I would think the opposite sex could easily also make them feel insecure.

You said the men were worse than the women, but given what you just said and not being a man yourself, how did you come to that conclusion? I've seen Leo men threatened and not act like this. They deal with it at the time, then it's done. At least from what I have seen of my Leo brother, 2 close male friends growing up, a male roommate and an ex of 5 years (all Leo men) I've never once seen this kind of behaviour coming from them. Also, none of them have Scorpio in their chart.. maybe the Leos that act like that have strong Scorp placements?

Again liars manipulation ect is not Scorpio placements!


Didn't say they were.. I am only speaking about what was mentioned in the thread "vindictive, hateful, dark, paranoid, and masters at screwing others over, revenge seeking".. You threw Liars and manipulation in there, not me. And I'm Scorpio dominant, Moon, Asc, Pluto with 8th House Sun.. I know what we are like and I don't think Lying was ever considered a Scorp trait.. so idk where you are even getting that from.
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From the thread this was made from to revenge Scorpio women
Well they say we are liars with no back bone and rather be male models than to get our hands dirty so O take everything astrology says with a big ass bag of salt
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Posted by blackphvse

I call bullshit. I've had the pleasure of many Leo men in my life (family, friends, relationships, roommates) Leos ain't like that at all.


But you're not a man, so the dynamics are completely different.

When Leos feel insecure or threatened by your mere presence, that's when the knives covertly come out.

Find a Leo woman who feels intimidated by you (for whatever reason and beyond your control) and you'll soon find out.


I think they are extremely competitive as you say. I think it goes hand in hand with their insecurity. They want what you have and think they are deserving of it, just as much, if not more then you.

Sounds like ambition though. They bitch and whine, but still will be competitive and work for it.


I half-agree.

It's more about always having this INSATIABLE desire to be in the spotlight for EVERYTHING. That's not competitiveness but an acute lack of perspective - no-one can be the best at everything and no-one is perfect.

Ultimately, Leos don't like it when someone inadvertently places a mirror in front of them.

Like lions, Leos want to be kings... even though no-one else was consciously competing with them in the first frigging place.
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Yes , yes. I can see this. I actually like that about them. But that's as a woman looking up to a man. I like that they are in the spotlight. I want to be in a mans shadow.

But I don't think they are too competitive with me, so I don't see their bad parts. I don't even see the arrogance or ego they are supposed to have, but maybe it's because I have it too, so it's familiar and unrecognizable.
They need the constant ego stroke

That’s all

A parade For putting up the xmaslights

No joke,was a upset because I wasn’t over joyed n clapped lol

Just a smime looks nice wasn’t enough
*unevolved leo men
Leo men hide this aspect about them very well. I could go into the dark and dirty and what's been told to me but that was told to me in confidence and shall stay locked in the vault. Just dont be fooled by the charm. Just saying 🤷🏼‍♀️
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I call bullshit. I've had the pleasure of many Leo men in my life (family, friends, relationships, roommates) Leos ain't like that at all.


But you're not a man, so the dynamics are completely different.

When Leos feel insecure or threatened by your mere presence, that's when the knives covertly come out.

Find a Leo woman who feels intimidated by you (for whatever reason and beyond your control) and you'll soon find out.


I think they are extremely competitive as you say. I think it goes hand in hand with their insecurity. They want what you have and think they are deserving of it, just as much, if not more then you.

Sounds like ambition though. They bitch and whine, but still will be competitive and work for it.


I half-agree.

It's more about always having this INSATIABLE desire to be in the spotlight for EVERYTHING. That's not competitiveness but an acute lack of perspective - no-one can be the best at everything and no-one is perfect.

Ultimately, Leos don't like it when someone inadvertently places a mirror in front of them.

Like lions, Leos want to be kings... even though no-one else was consciously competing with them in the first frigging place.


Yes , yes. I can see this. I actually like that about them. But that's as a woman looking up to a man. I like that they are in the spotlight. I want to be in a mans shadow.

But I don't think they are too competitive with me, so I don't see their bad parts. I don't even see the arrogance or ego they are supposed to have, but maybe it's because I have it too, so it's familiar and unrecognizable.


anybody that displays any kind of confidence is arrogant or has ego these days
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Lol. Yup! They always want to put our fire out!
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Posted by saggurl88that's as a woman looking up to a man. I like that they are in the spotlight. I want to be in a mans shadow.


Perfect! That’s Sag woman‘s best trait. I also read in the Sag s forum hiw a lot of Sag women on there write about awful experiences with abusive men. How do I win him back? They ask for advice.

I think the chemistry between Sagittarius women and Leo men is fyre
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Really? We aren’t doormats.

I’d kill someone who was abusive to me. I don’t have the low self esteem to think that I’m worthless enough to be abused.

Parents need to do a better job of raising their daughters to have a higher self worth.

Abusive men are weak and they aren’t leaders at all. They abuse women because they stand in the shadows of real men.
I see Sag being quite skilled at brown-nosing Leo even when Leo hasn’t done anything worthy of appraisal

They don’t seem too upset by Leo’s incessant need for praise. Maybe it’s a mutable vs fixed Sign thing? A Fixed Sign Being Awesome = a mutable in AWE ?
Really?! I thought it is Libras who want such.

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2) Most of them seek women who are on the same wavelength, if they are a powerhouse, they want a woman on the same A game (which isn't a bad thing, but sheet sounds exhausting)

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I see Sag being quite skilled at brown-nosing Leo even when Leo hasn’t done anything worthy of appraisal

They don’t seem too upset by Leo’s incessant need for praise. Maybe it’s a mutable vs fixed Sign thing? A Fixed Sign Being Awesome = a mutable in AWE ?
LOL Sagittarius are selfish and self absorbed.

If "brown nosing" a Leo gets us what we want. What harm is there in it?

I tell my Leo all day "You're too good to me" because it's true and he keeps doing it smile

A little praise and appreciation goes a long way.

They are the Sun after all.

'When a Leo's sun shines on you, you feel it. But when the sun is shining elsewhere, it's cold. A Leo can cast quite a shadow.”

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Posted by RomanRd

I see Sag being quite skilled at brown-nosing Leo even when Leo hasn’t done anything worthy of appraisal

They don’t seem too upset by Leo’s incessant need for praise. Maybe it’s a mutable vs fixed Sign thing? A Fixed Sign Being Awesome = a mutable in AWE ?


LOL Sagittarius are selfish and self absorbed.

If "brown nosing" a Leo gets us what we want. What harm is there in it?

I tell my Leo all day "You're too good to me" because it's true and he keeps doing it smile

A little praise and appreciation goes a long way.

They are the Sun after all.

'When a Leo's sun shines on you, you feel it. But when the sun is shining elsewhere, it's cold. A Leo can cast quite a shadow.”
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Agree about Sags being self centred & Nice quote about the Sun x Leo, appreciate the panache

Who said that? Susan Miller? Hardly. She s an Aries she wouldn’t describe Leo in such epic terms.

The ass kissing doesn’t bother Sags because they use it strategically?
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I see Sag being quite skilled at brown-nosing Leo even when Leo hasn’t done anything worthy of appraisal

They don’t seem too upset by Leo’s incessant need for praise. Maybe it’s a mutable vs fixed Sign thing? A Fixed Sign Being Awesome = a mutable in AWE ?


LOL Sagittarius are selfish and self absorbed.

If "brown nosing" a Leo gets us what we want. What harm is there in it?

I tell my Leo all day "You're too good to me" because it's true and he keeps doing it smile

A little praise and appreciation goes a long way.

They are the Sun after all.

'When a Leo's sun shines on you, you feel it. But when the sun is shining elsewhere, it's cold. A Leo can cast quite a shadow.”


Agree about Sags being self centred & Nice quote about the Sun x Leo, appreciate the panache

Who said that? Susan Miller? Hardly. She s an Aries she wouldn’t describe Leo in such epic terms.

The ass kissing doesn’t bother Sags because they use it strategically?
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How do you know I didn't come up with that salacious Leo quote?

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And it's not ass kissing if it's a genuine compliment.

I tell him when he's being cute, I tell him when I appreciate him. He mentions he got a haircut, I mention how great it looks. Most of it is easy.

I don't wake him up to a red carpet and polished crown.

Posted by deckedandecker

I almost feel like if Pluto is domicile in Scorpio, it should be exalted in Leo.

Everything people say about Scorpios being vindictive, hateful, dark, paranoid, and masters at screwing others over is more true for Leos. I find that Leo men are heavily driven by pride to the point where they will go as low as possible and abuse every rule to get even. If they have to ruin countless lives to do it, they will do just that.

The difference is, I feel like Leos just hide it better. Like a Leo is that friendly neighborhood cop who you find is corrupt and can hurt you more than a crook can. A Leo is like that friendly neighbor you thought was good all along but he has had his fair share of dark things he has done.

I don't think you fully grasp Pluto. Leo Pluto to me: Striving for self expression, creativity, and ambition through the lens of self image.

A positive example of this is John F Kennedy's speech during the cold war with Russia. A competition for sure.

"We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to WIN"


The majority of people in the world have no idea the mind boggling effort it took to create the technology from scratch to make that all possible in the end. The processor in your cellphone is more powerful then all the ones on the original space shuttle combined hands down.

*Leo men suddenly dropping the food they killed and were currently playing with*

😳

Leo: It's not what it looks like! We were just having a bit of fun is all. Isn't that right???"

Other person: 😵

Leo: See they agree. Just a bit of fun between two close friends!
The worst Leo Man ever.

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I see Sag being quite skilled at brown-nosing Leo even when Leo hasn’t done anything worthy of appraisal

They don’t seem too upset by Leo’s incessant need for praise. Maybe it’s a mutable vs fixed Sign thing? A Fixed Sign Being Awesome = a mutable in AWE ?
Quite the opposite. I find at least with Sag women, they will be the very first ones to target a Leo and bring him down. Like a Leo will win something big with the crowd cheering him on while the Sag woman will undermine that accomplishment. I think deep down inside, Sag women just have an inferiority complex.
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Leos are generally alpha males

Scorpio men are wimps, hide behind the internet to attack women is a Scorpio move, you never see Leo men do that shit. They too busy building their little empires

I'm offended on behalf of Leo men
A Scorpio man is all bark no bite in many cases.

A Leo man is all bite and barely any bark, only a roar after they have eliminated the target.
while chemistry sucks overall between Leo men and Sag women, damn is their sexual compatibility off the maps

feel bad for Leo men here though, how do they put up with that nasty stank coming off of a Sag woman?
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while chemistry sucks overall between Leo men and Sag women, damn is their sexual compatibility off the maps

feel bad for Leo men here though, how do they put up with that nasty stank coming off of a Sag woman?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

At least you still have a sense of humor

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Posted by deckedandecker

while chemistry sucks overall between Leo men and Sag women, damn is their sexual compatibility off the maps

feel bad for Leo men here though, how do they put up with that nasty stank coming off of a Sag woman?


😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

At least you still have a sense of humor
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what was the humor?