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jupiter? yah lol
Posted by Chicadee
I doubt it can be linked up to signs.
I always thought that people who really get into that stuff, have some major factor (unpleasant) factor in their lives that they have no control over. Or some longstanding history of not having the ways/means/ability.
So really getting into a conspiracy theory is them extending control over something. They "figured it out."
something like a superiority complex? being "woke" and not a sheep kinda thing?
Conspiracies are as old as humans. The first famous political conspiracy was the murder of Caesar by several senators. What worked at that time still works today. The only difference is to distinguish between bs conspiracies and real ones.
See this german politician here? He was found dead in the 80s in his hotel room and ruled a suicide.
This picture has never been shown publicly and was published by the then prosecutor of the case, who wrote a book about it. He was not allowed to continue the investigation
Please, stay safe. 😢
See this german politician here? He was found dead in the 80s in his hotel room and ruled a suicide.
This picture has never been shown publicly and was published by the then prosecutor of the case, who wrote a book about it. He was not allowed to continue the investigation
Please, stay safe. 😢
Hell we are lied to everyday so it's hard to not assume there is more going on than what we are being told....and there usually is.
Yes there are some really far fetched ones out there but also on one hand...let's look at the past and what our government has done...let's take experiments on humans, playing with dark matter, the shit they allow in our food etc etc...so it's very plausible for them to pretty much do anything at this point.
I always find it funny that even tho we know what our government is capable of and majority of people bitch and complain about them...people still take what they say as gospel and call the ones who don't... illogical, stupid, crazy etc. We can see just by this pandemic even the so called "experts" have no idea.
I'm open minded to all possibilities but take everything with a grain of salt as well and will never automatically assume what I'm being told is the truth.
Yes there are some really far fetched ones out there but also on one hand...let's look at the past and what our government has done...let's take experiments on humans, playing with dark matter, the shit they allow in our food etc etc...so it's very plausible for them to pretty much do anything at this point.
I always find it funny that even tho we know what our government is capable of and majority of people bitch and complain about them...people still take what they say as gospel and call the ones who don't... illogical, stupid, crazy etc. We can see just by this pandemic even the so called "experts" have no idea.
I'm open minded to all possibilities but take everything with a grain of salt as well and will never automatically assume what I'm being told is the truth.
You can look at the #metoo movement as another example. There have been a number of B celebrities written off, called crazy and black listed for coming out and telling everyone what is going on in Hollywood a long time ago. It was all pretty much written off as conspiracy theories and well, we now know it wasn't.
Leo girl at work. She's fully into a lot of new age bullshit, and recently saw she was reading david icke 5G theory on the work PC. Even downloaded a transcript.
She's completely crazy , with lots of psychological problems and constantly quoting new age/spirituality books.
she literally takes what is written in those books and repeats it without critical sense or personal opinion. I think she won't end well
She's completely crazy , with lots of psychological problems and constantly quoting new age/spirituality books.
she literally takes what is written in those books and repeats it without critical sense or personal opinion. I think she won't end well
Posted by LostinmyMind11
You can look at the #metoo movement as another example. There have been a number of B celebrities written off, called crazy and black listed for coming out and telling everyone what is going on in Hollywood a long time ago. It was all pretty much written off as conspiracy theories and well, we now know it wasn't.
Indeed👍
Keep an open mind on all things
Two that i know are and think for themselves are Virgo sun and Merc and Virgo dom.
A lot conspiracy theories are true like population control they have Ted talks about it. Conspiracy theories is a made up term the CIA made up in the 60 because people were questioning the jfk assassination. Next thing your going to tell me that Epstein killed him self .
Posted by LostinmyMind11
You can look at the #metoo movement as another example. There have been a number of B celebrities written off, called crazy and black listed for coming out and telling everyone what is going on in Hollywood a long time ago. It was all pretty much written off as conspiracy theories and well, we now know it wasn't.
There's proof of that though. There are ones that are common that people believe in of which there is zero verifiable proof. Even people in this thread believe in..such as the 9/11 conspiracy, the Kennedy assassination, the existence of God, and aliens visiting.
Posted by hydorah
Leo girl at work. She's fully into a lot of new age bullshit, and recently saw she was reading david icke 5G theory on the work PC. Even downloaded a transcript.
She's completely crazy , with lots of psychological problems and constantly quoting new age/spirituality books.
she literally takes what is written in those books and repeats it without critical sense or personal opinion. I think she won't end well
David Icke is a shill. His stupid theories on reptile people are a complete joke. He’s an agent of misinformation. That’s the reason why he’s still alive . He a complete clown 🤡 / agent .
Most people that have come up with the truth are murdered in some way or another.
Posted by Nightcap-Posted by LostinmyMind11
You can look at the #metoo movement as another example. There have been a number of B celebrities written off, called crazy and black listed for coming out and telling everyone what is going on in Hollywood a long time ago. It was all pretty much written off as conspiracy theories and well, we now know it wasn't.
There's proof of that though. There are ones that are common that people believe in of which there is zero verifiable proof. Even people in this thread believe in..such as the 9/11 conspiracy, the Kennedy assassination, the existence of God, and aliens.click to expand
Not at the time there wasn't...basically hearsay but thru time and more situations happening there was but I get what you're saying.
Posted by Fanta
The people I know with a history of believing in conspiracy theories are generally prone to paranoia, distrustful, angry, sad, depressed, and isolated. They tend to be on the extreme edges of the political spectrum and overestimate their own cognitive abilities.
Not the two i know....
Posted by LaPetiteEtoile
I’ll definitely buy into some conspiracies but only if I don’t see any alternative. Or if I’ve gotten so much information that I can’t believe anything else.
I am pretty good at updated my thoughts when enough evidence is provided so I don’t feel that crazy but I also don’t automatically assume what I’m being told is correct.
Mercury mind👍
There are a lot of 'false flag' conspiracies that are true though (9/11 isn't one). It's been a somewhat common practice by aggressors to act like they've been attacked. Operation Northwoods (vetoed by Kennedy), where the Joint Chiefs of Staff approved of blowing up airliners and pinning it on Cuba is real. The Beslan bombings, where Putin tried to blame Chechens for apartment bombings to further his aims is likely one too. The bombings stopped when the local police caught the people trying to plant the last bomb recorded. They turned out to be government agents.
Posted by Fanta
The people I know with a history of believing in conspiracy theories are generally prone to paranoia, distrustful, angry, sad, depressed, and isolated. They tend to be on the extreme edges of the political spectrum and overestimate their own cognitive abilities.
Dunning-Kruger effect - in the field of psychology, the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people with low ability at a task overestimate their ability. It is related to the cognitive bias of illusory superiority and comes from the inability of people to recognize their own lack of ability.
So far, Virgo and Mercury ruled signs are top of the list
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Posted by ChicadeePosted by LostinmyMind11
You can look at the #metoo movement as another example. There have been a number of B celebrities written off, called crazy and black listed for coming out and telling everyone what is going on in Hollywood a long time ago. It was all pretty much written off as conspiracy theories and well, we now know it wasn't.
that's what happens when someone suggests something against popular opinion.
IF it's the truth, people will not accept it unless it's majority, or repeated enough. Or in some instances outright facts.
Lots of government experiments, as you said, for example turned out to be real.
Still no aliens though.click to expand
Give it time lol👽👽👽👽
I'm not looking forward to the anal probing 😱
Posted by ChicadeePosted by Nightcap-Posted by LostinmyMind11
You can look at the #metoo movement as another example. There have been a number of B celebrities written off, called crazy and black listed for coming out and telling everyone what is going on in Hollywood a long time ago. It was all pretty much written off as conspiracy theories and well, we now know it wasn't.
There's proof of that though. There are ones that are common that people believe in of which there is zero verifiable proof. Even people in this thread believe in..such as the 9/11 conspiracy, the Kennedy assassination, the existence of God, and aliens visiting.
Actually, the CIA quietly released documents about 5 years ago, which proved the JFK assassination was a conspiracy.
And nobody cared.
Donno about the restclick to expand
Nobody would've cared? Everyone would have. Show me the info. The "Magic Bullet theory" that a lot of people believed in as proof of another shooter was debunked when it was realized that Kennedy and John Connally (the Governor of Texas) were sitting at different heights. What's the reasoning and proof behind the mafia and/or the government being involved?
Posted by FantaPosted by Nightcap-Posted by Fanta
The people I know with a history of believing in conspiracy theories are generally prone to paranoia, distrustful, angry, sad, depressed, and isolated. They tend to be on the extreme edges of the political spectrum and overestimate their own cognitive abilities.
Dunning-Kruger effect - in the field of psychology, the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people with low ability at a task overestimate their ability. It is related to the cognitive bias of illusory superiority and comes from the inability of people to recognize their own lack of ability.
That's probably part of it. I really think being unhappy and spending too much time online contributes too. I know a few people like this, and am related to a few of them. The older, more shut-in, and more hopeless they become, the more they distrust the mainstream narrative and the more they believe in things like Jade Helm. Sometimes the mainstream narrative is a lie, but conspiracy theorists default to it always or usually being a lie.
Posted by FantaPosted by Nightcap-Posted by Fanta
The people I know with a history of believing in conspiracy theories are generally prone to paranoia, distrustful, angry, sad, depressed, and isolated. They tend to be on the extreme edges of the political spectrum and overestimate their own cognitive abilities.
Dunning-Kruger effect - in the field of psychology, the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people with low ability at a task overestimate their ability. It is related to the cognitive bias of illusory superiority and comes from the inability of people to recognize their own lack of ability.
That's probably part of it. I really think being unhappy and spending too much time online contributes too. I know a few people like this, and am related to a few of them. The older, more shut-in, and more hopeless they become, the more they distrust the mainstream narrative and the more they believe in things like Jade Helm. Sometimes the mainstream narrative is a lie, but conspiracy theorists default to it always or usually being a lie.click to expand
Conspiracy theories have been around much longer than the Internet. Where do you think the Internet gets the most information from? It comes from older documents, books, tapes, interviews, etc., which were published 40, 50, 60, 70 years ago, depending on the case. It seems like most people think conspiracy theories started in 2001. Lol
People have a misconception of conspiracies anyway because they think a president has to be killed or a war has to start to classify him as a conspiracy. Not at all. Conspiracies happen every damn hour. The mafia, drug cartels, Russian mob, etc. are all conspiracy groups that also conspire with officials, politicians, armed forces, police and intelligence agencies, otherwise they could not lead their billion dollar empires, it would be impossible. It is nothing more than an open conspiracy and everyone knows it.
Posted by TheSagPosted by FantaPosted by Nightcap-Posted by Fanta
The people I know with a history of believing in conspiracy theories are generally prone to paranoia, distrustful, angry, sad, depressed, and isolated. They tend to be on the extreme edges of the political spectrum and overestimate their own cognitive abilities.
Dunning-Kruger effect - in the field of psychology, the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people with low ability at a task overestimate their ability. It is related to the cognitive bias of illusory superiority and comes from the inability of people to recognize their own lack of ability.
That's probably part of it. I really think being unhappy and spending too much time online contributes too. I know a few people like this, and am related to a few of them. The older, more shut-in, and more hopeless they become, the more they distrust the mainstream narrative and the more they believe in things like Jade Helm. Sometimes the mainstream narrative is a lie, but conspiracy theorists default to it always or usually being a lie.Posted by FantaPosted by Nightcap-Posted by Fanta
The people I know with a history of believing in conspiracy theories are generally prone to paranoia, distrustful, angry, sad, depressed, and isolated. They tend to be on the extreme edges of the political spectrum and overestimate their own cognitive abilities.
Dunning-Kruger effect - in the field of psychology, the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people with low ability at a task overestimate their ability. It is related to the cognitive bias of illusory superiority and comes from the inability of people to recognize their own lack of ability.
That's probably part of it. I really think being unhappy and spending too much time online contributes too. I know a few people like this, and am related to a few of them. The older, more shut-in, and more hopeless they become, the more they distrust the mainstream narrative and the more they believe in things like Jade Helm. Sometimes the mainstream narrative is a lie, but conspiracy theorists default to it always or usually being a lie.
Conspiracy theories have been around much longer than the Internet. Where do you think the Internet gets the most information from? It comes from older documents, books, tapes, interviews, etc., which were published 40, 50, 60, 70 years ago, depending on the case. It seems like most people think conspiracy theories started in 2001. Lol
People have a misconception of conspiracies anyway because they think a president has to be killed or a war has to start to classify him as a conspiracy. Not at all. Conspiracies happen every damn hour. The mafia, drug cartels, Russian mob, etc. are all conspiracy groups that also conspire with officials, politicians, armed forces, police and intelligence agencies, otherwise they could not lead their billion dollar empires, it would be impossible. It is nothing more than an open conspiracy and everyone knows it.click to expand
Well that's the difference between conspiracy and conspiracy theory. Conspiracy has to have some semblance of viability. The problem with conspiracy theories such as 9/11 or the Kennedy assassination is that the people who believe in them dont realize that there's zero evidence for them. The fact that there's dirty, shady money in politics and government is hardly a surprise given how things function and there's judicial proof for it.
Posted by FantaPosted by TheSagPosted by FantaPosted by Nightcap-Posted by Fanta
The people I know with a history of believing in conspiracy theories are generally prone to paranoia, distrustful, angry, sad, depressed, and isolated. They tend to be on the extreme edges of the political spectrum and overestimate their own cognitive abilities.
Dunning-Kruger effect - in the field of psychology, the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people with low ability at a task overestimate their ability. It is related to the cognitive bias of illusory superiority and comes from the inability of people to recognize their own lack of ability.
That's probably part of it. I really think being unhappy and spending too much time online contributes too. I know a few people like this, and am related to a few of them. The older, more shut-in, and more hopeless they become, the more they distrust the mainstream narrative and the more they believe in things like Jade Helm. Sometimes the mainstream narrative is a lie, but conspiracy theorists default to it always or usually being a lie.Posted by FantaPosted by Nightcap-Posted by Fanta
The people I know with a history of believing in conspiracy theories are generally prone to paranoia, distrustful, angry, sad, depressed, and isolated. They tend to be on the extreme edges of the political spectrum and overestimate their own cognitive abilities.
Dunning-Kruger effect - in the field of psychology, the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people with low ability at a task overestimate their ability. It is related to the cognitive bias of illusory superiority and comes from the inability of people to recognize their own lack of ability.
That's probably part of it. I really think being unhappy and spending too much time online contributes too. I know a few people like this, and am related to a few of them. The older, more shut-in, and more hopeless they become, the more they distrust the mainstream narrative and the more they believe in things like Jade Helm. Sometimes the mainstream narrative is a lie, but conspiracy theorists default to it always or usually being a lie.
Conspiracy theories have been around much longer than the Internet. Where do you think the Internet gets the most information from? It comes from older documents, books, tapes, interviews, etc., which were published 40, 50, 60, 70 years ago, depending on the case. It seems like most people think conspiracy theories started in 2001. Lol
People have a misconception of conspiracies anyway because they think a president has to be killed or a war has to start to classify him as a conspiracy. Not at all. Conspiracies happen every damn hour. The mafia, drug cartels, Russian mob, etc. are all conspiracy groups that also conspire with officials, politicians, armed forces, police and intelligence agencies, otherwise they could not lead their billion dollar empires, it would be impossible. It is nothing more than an open conspiracy and everyone knows it.
I'm well aware they didn't start with the internet. I was alive before the internet too. My experience is that people who believe in government conspiracies usually have never worked in a government agency, and therefore cannot imagine what it's actually like. It's not really very Kafkaesque at all. It's just regular people. Yes, there are criminal organizations bribing people, but there are continuous efforts to sniff that out and stop it too, which is why we have things like whistle blower laws in the US.
However, the people I know whose lives are negatively impacted by this stuff are on Facebook and other social sites all the time now. The woman I mentioned above has become afraid to leave her house. I have an uncle who has destroyed his relationships with his daughters and therefore is isolated.click to expand
Alright but none of this makes real conspiracies any less legitimate. It's not that an entire government is involved in a conspiracy and most people who work in high positions don't even know what's going on behind secret doors. This is when intelligence agencies come into play, they are the masters who direct and connect all channels.
Posted by Chicadee
OK @NightCap sorry, I was wrong, people do care... now looking this up there's apparently a lot of recent articles (2018) about it. My bad. In 2015 nobody cared.
Could I get the cliff notes? 😂 57,000 pages of documents
Posted by Nightcap-Posted by TheSagPosted by FantaPosted by Nightcap-Posted by Fanta
The people I know with a history of believing in conspiracy theories are generally prone to paranoia, distrustful, angry, sad, depressed, and isolated. They tend to be on the extreme edges of the political spectrum and overestimate their own cognitive abilities.
Dunning-Kruger effect - in the field of psychology, the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people with low ability at a task overestimate their ability. It is related to the cognitive bias of illusory superiority and comes from the inability of people to recognize their own lack of ability.
That's probably part of it. I really think being unhappy and spending too much time online contributes too. I know a few people like this, and am related to a few of them. The older, more shut-in, and more hopeless they become, the more they distrust the mainstream narrative and the more they believe in things like Jade Helm. Sometimes the mainstream narrative is a lie, but conspiracy theorists default to it always or usually being a lie.Posted by FantaPosted by Nightcap-Posted by Fanta
The people I know with a history of believing in conspiracy theories are generally prone to paranoia, distrustful, angry, sad, depressed, and isolated. They tend to be on the extreme edges of the political spectrum and overestimate their own cognitive abilities.
Dunning-Kruger effect - in the field of psychology, the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people with low ability at a task overestimate their ability. It is related to the cognitive bias of illusory superiority and comes from the inability of people to recognize their own lack of ability.
That's probably part of it. I really think being unhappy and spending too much time online contributes too. I know a few people like this, and am related to a few of them. The older, more shut-in, and more hopeless they become, the more they distrust the mainstream narrative and the more they believe in things like Jade Helm. Sometimes the mainstream narrative is a lie, but conspiracy theorists default to it always or usually being a lie.
Conspiracy theories have been around much longer than the Internet. Where do you think the Internet gets the most information from? It comes from older documents, books, tapes, interviews, etc., which were published 40, 50, 60, 70 years ago, depending on the case. It seems like most people think conspiracy theories started in 2001. Lol
People have a misconception of conspiracies anyway because they think a president has to be killed or a war has to start to classify him as a conspiracy. Not at all. Conspiracies happen every damn hour. The mafia, drug cartels, Russian mob, etc. are all conspiracy groups that also conspire with officials, politicians, armed forces, police and intelligence agencies, otherwise they could not lead their billion dollar empires, it would be impossible. It is nothing more than an open conspiracy and everyone knows it.
Well that's the difference between conspiracy and conspiracy theory. Conspiracy has to have some semblance of viability. The problem with conspiracy theories such as 9/11 or the Kennedy assassination is that the people who believe in them dont realize that there's zero evidence for them. The fact that there's dirty, shady money in politics and government is hardly a surprise given how things function and there's judicial proof for it.click to expand
If we accept that dubious money in politics and government and links to crime and extremist organizations exist and play a major role, which is a conspiracy already then the general existence of conspiracies cannot be denied anymore. I don't even know how anyone can dispute that.
Posted by FantaPosted by TheSagPosted by FantaPosted by TheSagPosted by FantaPosted by Nightcap-Posted by Fanta
The people I know with a history of believing in conspiracy theories are generally prone to paranoia, distrustful, angry, sad, depressed, and isolated. They tend to be on the extreme edges of the political spectrum and overestimate their own cognitive abilities.
Dunning-Kruger effect - in the field of psychology, the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people with low ability at a task overestimate their ability. It is related to the cognitive bias of illusory superiority and comes from the inability of people to recognize their own lack of ability.
That's probably part of it. I really think being unhappy and spending too much time online contributes too. I know a few people like this, and am related to a few of them. The older, more shut-in, and more hopeless they become, the more they distrust the mainstream narrative and the more they believe in things like Jade Helm. Sometimes the mainstream narrative is a lie, but conspiracy theorists default to it always or usually being a lie.Posted by FantaPosted by Nightcap-Posted by Fanta
The people I know with a history of believing in conspiracy theories are generally prone to paranoia, distrustful, angry, sad, depressed, and isolated. They tend to be on the extreme edges of the political spectrum and overestimate their own cognitive abilities.
Dunning-Kruger effect - in the field of psychology, the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people with low ability at a task overestimate their ability. It is related to the cognitive bias of illusory superiority and comes from the inability of people to recognize their own lack of ability.
That's probably part of it. I really think being unhappy and spending too much time online contributes too. I know a few people like this, and am related to a few of them. The older, more shut-in, and more hopeless they become, the more they distrust the mainstream narrative and the more they believe in things like Jade Helm. Sometimes the mainstream narrative is a lie, but conspiracy theorists default to it always or usually being a lie.
Conspiracy theories have been around much longer than the Internet. Where do you think the Internet gets the most information from? It comes from older documents, books, tapes, interviews, etc., which were published 40, 50, 60, 70 years ago, depending on the case. It seems like most people think conspiracy theories started in 2001. Lol
People have a misconception of conspiracies anyway because they think a president has to be killed or a war has to start to classify him as a conspiracy. Not at all. Conspiracies happen every damn hour. The mafia, drug cartels, Russian mob, etc. are all conspiracy groups that also conspire with officials, politicians, armed forces, police and intelligence agencies, otherwise they could not lead their billion dollar empires, it would be impossible. It is nothing more than an open conspiracy and everyone knows it.
I'm well aware they didn't start with the internet. I was alive before the internet too. My experience is that people who believe in government conspiracies usually have never worked in a government agency, and therefore cannot imagine what it's actually like. It's not really very Kafkaesque at all. It's just regular people. Yes, there are criminal organizations bribing people, but there are continuous efforts to sniff that out and stop it too, which is why we have things like whistle blower laws in the US.
However, the people I know whose lives are negatively impacted by this stuff are on Facebook and other social sites all the time now. The woman I mentioned above has become afraid to leave her house. I have an uncle who has destroyed his relationships with his daughters and therefore is isolated.
Alright but none of this makes real conspiracies any less legitimate. It's not that an entire government is involved in a conspiracy and most people who work in high positions don't even know what's going on behind secret doors. This is when intelligence agencies come into play, they are the masters who direct and connect all channels.
What good does it do one to think in these terms? I think the current climate of mistrust and spin is contributing to a lot of mental illness.click to expand
The point is that people who generally deny conspiracies are imo far more dangerous to our society than some nuts who believe that everything is a conspiracy. I would rather keep my eyes open and listen and then decide for myself what might be true or false than generally avoid being open to these issues.
Posted by TheSagPosted by Nightcap-Posted by TheSagPosted by FantaPosted by Nightcap-Posted by Fanta
The people I know with a history of believing in conspiracy theories are generally prone to paranoia, distrustful, angry, sad, depressed, and isolated. They tend to be on the extreme edges of the political spectrum and overestimate their own cognitive abilities.
Dunning-Kruger effect - in the field of psychology, the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people with low ability at a task overestimate their ability. It is related to the cognitive bias of illusory superiority and comes from the inability of people to recognize their own lack of ability.
That's probably part of it. I really think being unhappy and spending too much time online contributes too. I know a few people like this, and am related to a few of them. The older, more shut-in, and more hopeless they become, the more they distrust the mainstream narrative and the more they believe in things like Jade Helm. Sometimes the mainstream narrative is a lie, but conspiracy theorists default to it always or usually being a lie.Posted by FantaPosted by Nightcap-Posted by Fanta
The people I know with a history of believing in conspiracy theories are generally prone to paranoia, distrustful, angry, sad, depressed, and isolated. They tend to be on the extreme edges of the political spectrum and overestimate their own cognitive abilities.
Dunning-Kruger effect - in the field of psychology, the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people with low ability at a task overestimate their ability. It is related to the cognitive bias of illusory superiority and comes from the inability of people to recognize their own lack of ability.
That's probably part of it. I really think being unhappy and spending too much time online contributes too. I know a few people like this, and am related to a few of them. The older, more shut-in, and more hopeless they become, the more they distrust the mainstream narrative and the more they believe in things like Jade Helm. Sometimes the mainstream narrative is a lie, but conspiracy theorists default to it always or usually being a lie.
Conspiracy theories have been around much longer than the Internet. Where do you think the Internet gets the most information from? It comes from older documents, books, tapes, interviews, etc., which were published 40, 50, 60, 70 years ago, depending on the case. It seems like most people think conspiracy theories started in 2001. Lol
People have a misconception of conspiracies anyway because they think a president has to be killed or a war has to start to classify him as a conspiracy. Not at all. Conspiracies happen every damn hour. The mafia, drug cartels, Russian mob, etc. are all conspiracy groups that also conspire with officials, politicians, armed forces, police and intelligence agencies, otherwise they could not lead their billion dollar empires, it would be impossible. It is nothing more than an open conspiracy and everyone knows it.
Well that's the difference between conspiracy and conspiracy theory. Conspiracy has to have some semblance of viability. The problem with conspiracy theories such as 9/11 or the Kennedy assassination is that the people who believe in them dont realize that there's zero evidence for them. The fact that there's dirty, shady money in politics and government is hardly a surprise given how things function and there's judicial proof for it.
If we accept that dubious money in politics and government and links to crime and extremist organizations exist and play a major role, which is a conspiracy already then the general existence of conspiracies cannot be denied anymore. I don't even know how anyone can dispute that.click to expand
No one is disputing that; rather disputing the ones that have no merit.
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The people I know with a history of believing in conspiracy theories are generally prone to paranoia, distrustful, angry, sad, depressed, and isolated. They tend to be on the extreme edges of the political spectrum and overestimate their own cognitive abilities.
Dunning-Kruger effect - in the field of psychology, the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people with low ability at a task overestimate their ability. It is related to the cognitive bias of illusory superiority and comes from the inability of people to recognize their own lack of ability.
That's probably part of it. I really think being unhappy and spending too much time online contributes too. I know a few people like this, and am related to a few of them. The older, more shut-in, and more hopeless they become, the more they distrust the mainstream narrative and the more they believe in things like Jade Helm. Sometimes the mainstream narrative is a lie, but conspiracy theorists default to it always or usually being a lie.Posted by FantaPosted by Nightcap-Posted by Fanta
The people I know with a history of believing in conspiracy theories are generally prone to paranoia, distrustful, angry, sad, depressed, and isolated. They tend to be on the extreme edges of the political spectrum and overestimate their own cognitive abilities.
Dunning-Kruger effect - in the field of psychology, the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people with low ability at a task overestimate their ability. It is related to the cognitive bias of illusory superiority and comes from the inability of people to recognize their own lack of ability.
That's probably part of it. I really think being unhappy and spending too much time online contributes too. I know a few people like this, and am related to a few of them. The older, more shut-in, and more hopeless they become, the more they distrust the mainstream narrative and the more they believe in things like Jade Helm. Sometimes the mainstream narrative is a lie, but conspiracy theorists default to it always or usually being a lie.
Conspiracy theories have been around much longer than the Internet. Where do you think the Internet gets the most information from? It comes from older documents, books, tapes, interviews, etc., which were published 40, 50, 60, 70 years ago, depending on the case. It seems like most people think conspiracy theories started in 2001. Lol
People have a misconception of conspiracies anyway because they think a president has to be killed or a war has to start to classify him as a conspiracy. Not at all. Conspiracies happen every damn hour. The mafia, drug cartels, Russian mob, etc. are all conspiracy groups that also conspire with officials, politicians, armed forces, police and intelligence agencies, otherwise they could not lead their billion dollar empires, it would be impossible. It is nothing more than an open conspiracy and everyone knows it.
I'm well aware they didn't start with the internet. I was alive before the internet too. My experience is that people who believe in government conspiracies usually have never worked in a government agency, and therefore cannot imagine what it's actually like. It's not really very Kafkaesque at all. It's just regular people. Yes, there are criminal organizations bribing people, but there are continuous efforts to sniff that out and stop it too, which is why we have things like whistle blower laws in the US.
However, the people I know whose lives are negatively impacted by this stuff are on Facebook and other social sites all the time now. The woman I mentioned above has become afraid to leave her house. I have an uncle who has destroyed his relationships with his daughters and therefore is isolated.
Alright but none of this makes real conspiracies any less legitimate. It's not that an entire government is involved in a conspiracy and most people who work in high positions don't even know what's going on behind secret doors. This is when intelligence agencies come into play, they are the masters who direct and connect all channels.
What good does it do one to think in these terms? I think the current climate of mistrust and spin is contributing to a lot of mental illness.
The point is that people who generally deny conspiracies are imo far more dangerous to our society than some nuts who believe that everything is a conspiracy. I would rather keep my eyes open and listen and then decide for myself what might be true or false than generally avoid being open to these issues.
Why would you rather err on the side of more crazies and more worry and anger than on less?click to expand
I am not sure whether I understand the question. You mean why do I side with the crazies? lol
Well, I don't. I think a lot, if not most modern conspiracy theories are bullshit. However, I would never generally deny their existence because of some of the things I mentioned. Why should I? People have killed each other for centuries. It is in our nature to gain power and prosperity at the expense of others, so I am not at all shocked to think that someone important has been killed due to a conspiracy. Have you ever read about modern european history in the 19th and 20th century? This continent is a conspiracy in itself with countless dark secrets. Italy for instance is a very special country. ^^
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The people I know with a history of believing in conspiracy theories are generally prone to paranoia, distrustful, angry, sad, depressed, and isolated. They tend to be on the extreme edges of the political spectrum and overestimate their own cognitive abilities.
Dunning-Kruger effect - in the field of psychology, the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people with low ability at a task overestimate their ability. It is related to the cognitive bias of illusory superiority and comes from the inability of people to recognize their own lack of ability.
That's probably part of it. I really think being unhappy and spending too much time online contributes too. I know a few people like this, and am related to a few of them. The older, more shut-in, and more hopeless they become, the more they distrust the mainstream narrative and the more they believe in things like Jade Helm. Sometimes the mainstream narrative is a lie, but conspiracy theorists default to it always or usually being a lie.Posted by FantaPosted by Nightcap-Posted by Fanta
The people I know with a history of believing in conspiracy theories are generally prone to paranoia, distrustful, angry, sad, depressed, and isolated. They tend to be on the extreme edges of the political spectrum and overestimate their own cognitive abilities.
Dunning-Kruger effect - in the field of psychology, the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people with low ability at a task overestimate their ability. It is related to the cognitive bias of illusory superiority and comes from the inability of people to recognize their own lack of ability.
That's probably part of it. I really think being unhappy and spending too much time online contributes too. I know a few people like this, and am related to a few of them. The older, more shut-in, and more hopeless they become, the more they distrust the mainstream narrative and the more they believe in things like Jade Helm. Sometimes the mainstream narrative is a lie, but conspiracy theorists default to it always or usually being a lie.
Conspiracy theories have been around much longer than the Internet. Where do you think the Internet gets the most information from? It comes from older documents, books, tapes, interviews, etc., which were published 40, 50, 60, 70 years ago, depending on the case. It seems like most people think conspiracy theories started in 2001. Lol
People have a misconception of conspiracies anyway because they think a president has to be killed or a war has to start to classify him as a conspiracy. Not at all. Conspiracies happen every damn hour. The mafia, drug cartels, Russian mob, etc. are all conspiracy groups that also conspire with officials, politicians, armed forces, police and intelligence agencies, otherwise they could not lead their billion dollar empires, it would be impossible. It is nothing more than an open conspiracy and everyone knows it.
Well that's the difference between conspiracy and conspiracy theory. Conspiracy has to have some semblance of viability. The problem with conspiracy theories such as 9/11 or the Kennedy assassination is that the people who believe in them dont realize that there's zero evidence for them. The fact that there's dirty, shady money in politics and government is hardly a surprise given how things function and there's judicial proof for it.
If we accept that dubious money in politics and government and links to crime and extremist organizations exist and play a major role, which is a conspiracy already then the general existence of conspiracies cannot be denied anymore. I don't even know how anyone can dispute that.
No one is disputing that; rather disputing the ones that have no merit.click to expand
I don't give any credit to nonsensical conspiracies.
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The people I know with a history of believing in conspiracy theories are generally prone to paranoia, distrustful, angry, sad, depressed, and isolated. They tend to be on the extreme edges of the political spectrum and overestimate their own cognitive abilities.
Dunning-Kruger effect - in the field of psychology, the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people with low ability at a task overestimate their ability. It is related to the cognitive bias of illusory superiority and comes from the inability of people to recognize their own lack of ability.
That's probably part of it. I really think being unhappy and spending too much time online contributes too. I know a few people like this, and am related to a few of them. The older, more shut-in, and more hopeless they become, the more they distrust the mainstream narrative and the more they believe in things like Jade Helm. Sometimes the mainstream narrative is a lie, but conspiracy theorists default to it always or usually being a lie.Posted by FantaPosted by Nightcap-Posted by Fanta
The people I know with a history of believing in conspiracy theories are generally prone to paranoia, distrustful, angry, sad, depressed, and isolated. They tend to be on the extreme edges of the political spectrum and overestimate their own cognitive abilities.
Dunning-Kruger effect - in the field of psychology, the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people with low ability at a task overestimate their ability. It is related to the cognitive bias of illusory superiority and comes from the inability of people to recognize their own lack of ability.
That's probably part of it. I really think being unhappy and spending too much time online contributes too. I know a few people like this, and am related to a few of them. The older, more shut-in, and more hopeless they become, the more they distrust the mainstream narrative and the more they believe in things like Jade Helm. Sometimes the mainstream narrative is a lie, but conspiracy theorists default to it always or usually being a lie.
Conspiracy theories have been around much longer than the Internet. Where do you think the Internet gets the most information from? It comes from older documents, books, tapes, interviews, etc., which were published 40, 50, 60, 70 years ago, depending on the case. It seems like most people think conspiracy theories started in 2001. Lol
People have a misconception of conspiracies anyway because they think a president has to be killed or a war has to start to classify him as a conspiracy. Not at all. Conspiracies happen every damn hour. The mafia, drug cartels, Russian mob, etc. are all conspiracy groups that also conspire with officials, politicians, armed forces, police and intelligence agencies, otherwise they could not lead their billion dollar empires, it would be impossible. It is nothing more than an open conspiracy and everyone knows it.
I'm well aware they didn't start with the internet. I was alive before the internet too. My experience is that people who believe in government conspiracies usually have never worked in a government agency, and therefore cannot imagine what it's actually like. It's not really very Kafkaesque at all. It's just regular people. Yes, there are criminal organizations bribing people, but there are continuous efforts to sniff that out and stop it too, which is why we have things like whistle blower laws in the US.
However, the people I know whose lives are negatively impacted by this stuff are on Facebook and other social sites all the time now. The woman I mentioned above has become afraid to leave her house. I have an uncle who has destroyed his relationships with his daughters and therefore is isolated.
Alright but none of this makes real conspiracies any less legitimate. It's not that an entire government is involved in a conspiracy and most people who work in high positions don't even know what's going on behind secret doors. This is when intelligence agencies come into play, they are the masters who direct and connect all channels.
What good does it do one to think in these terms? I think the current climate of mistrust and spin is contributing to a lot of mental illness.
The point is that people who generally deny conspiracies are imo far more dangerous to our society than some nuts who believe that everything is a conspiracy. I would rather keep my eyes open and listen and then decide for myself what might be true or false than generally avoid being open to these issues.
Why would you rather err on the side of more crazies and more worry and anger than on less?
I am not sure whether I understand the question. You mean why do I side with the crazies? lol
Well, I don't. I think a lot, if not most modern conspiracy theories are bullshit. However, I would never generally deny their existence because of some of the things I mentioned. Why should I? People have killed each other for centuries. It is in our nature to gain power and prosperity at the expense of others, so I am not at all shocked to think that someone important has been killed due to a conspiracy. Have you ever read about modern european history in the 19th and 20th century? This continent is a conspiracy in itself with countless dark secrets. Italy for instance is a very special country. ^^
I mean, I do believe in conspiracies where there is actual evidence, and I do suspect conspiracies sometimes, when there is something suspicious and I can see a motive. Usually motive is what is missing in the crazy conspiracies people come up with.
I still think there was probably a conspiracy around JFK's and MLK's shootings, due to the motive being so obvious and so many details being shady, though I've looked at the evidence, and especially for JFK, it still isn't there.click to expand
One of the reasons for that is people wrongly conclude involvement because it was used for benefit. For example, 9/11 was used to cement support for the Iraq war, to up surveillance, and limit freedoms by enacting the Patriot Act. Given that, does it mean the government was behind it? Of course not. Russia, China, along with other authoritarian governments also used it to crack down on minorities and citizens under the guise of terrorism. Duterte in the Phillipines is using Covid to crack down on civil liberties and limit opposition groups as are other strongmen. Does that mean they caused coronavirus because they used it to consolidate power
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The people I know with a history of believing in conspiracy theories are generally prone to paranoia, distrustful, angry, sad, depressed, and isolated. They tend to be on the extreme edges of the political spectrum and overestimate their own cognitive abilities.
Dunning-Kruger effect - in the field of psychology, the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people with low ability at a task overestimate their ability. It is related to the cognitive bias of illusory superiority and comes from the inability of people to recognize their own lack of ability.
That's probably part of it. I really think being unhappy and spending too much time online contributes too. I know a few people like this, and am related to a few of them. The older, more shut-in, and more hopeless they become, the more they distrust the mainstream narrative and the more they believe in things like Jade Helm. Sometimes the mainstream narrative is a lie, but conspiracy theorists default to it always or usually being a lie.Posted by FantaPosted by Nightcap-Posted by Fanta
The people I know with a history of believing in conspiracy theories are generally prone to paranoia, distrustful, angry, sad, depressed, and isolated. They tend to be on the extreme edges of the political spectrum and overestimate their own cognitive abilities.
Dunning-Kruger effect - in the field of psychology, the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people with low ability at a task overestimate their ability. It is related to the cognitive bias of illusory superiority and comes from the inability of people to recognize their own lack of ability.
That's probably part of it. I really think being unhappy and spending too much time online contributes too. I know a few people like this, and am related to a few of them. The older, more shut-in, and more hopeless they become, the more they distrust the mainstream narrative and the more they believe in things like Jade Helm. Sometimes the mainstream narrative is a lie, but conspiracy theorists default to it always or usually being a lie.
Conspiracy theories have been around much longer than the Internet. Where do you think the Internet gets the most information from? It comes from older documents, books, tapes, interviews, etc., which were published 40, 50, 60, 70 years ago, depending on the case. It seems like most people think conspiracy theories started in 2001. Lol
People have a misconception of conspiracies anyway because they think a president has to be killed or a war has to start to classify him as a conspiracy. Not at all. Conspiracies happen every damn hour. The mafia, drug cartels, Russian mob, etc. are all conspiracy groups that also conspire with officials, politicians, armed forces, police and intelligence agencies, otherwise they could not lead their billion dollar empires, it would be impossible. It is nothing more than an open conspiracy and everyone knows it.
I'm well aware they didn't start with the internet. I was alive before the internet too. My experience is that people who believe in government conspiracies usually have never worked in a government agency, and therefore cannot imagine what it's actually like. It's not really very Kafkaesque at all. It's just regular people. Yes, there are criminal organizations bribing people, but there are continuous efforts to sniff that out and stop it too, which is why we have things like whistle blower laws in the US.
However, the people I know whose lives are negatively impacted by this stuff are on Facebook and other social sites all the time now. The woman I mentioned above has become afraid to leave her house. I have an uncle who has destroyed his relationships with his daughters and therefore is isolated.
Alright but none of this makes real conspiracies any less legitimate. It's not that an entire government is involved in a conspiracy and most people who work in high positions don't even know what's going on behind secret doors. This is when intelligence agencies come into play, they are the masters who direct and connect all channels.
What good does it do one to think in these terms? I think the current climate of mistrust and spin is contributing to a lot of mental illness.
The point is that people who generally deny conspiracies are imo far more dangerous to our society than some nuts who believe that everything is a conspiracy. I would rather keep my eyes open and listen and then decide for myself what might be true or false than generally avoid being open to these issues.
Why would you rather err on the side of more crazies and more worry and anger than on less?
I am not sure whether I understand the question. You mean why do I side with the crazies? lol
Well, I don't. I think a lot, if not most modern conspiracy theories are bullshit. However, I would never generally deny their existence because of some of the things I mentioned. Why should I? People have killed each other for centuries. It is in our nature to gain power and prosperity at the expense of others, so I am not at all shocked to think that someone important has been killed due to a conspiracy. Have you ever read about modern european history in the 19th and 20th century? This continent is a conspiracy in itself with countless dark secrets. Italy for instance is a very special country. ^^
I mean, I do believe in conspiracies where there is actual evidence, and I do suspect conspiracies sometimes, when there is something suspicious and I can see a motive. Usually motive is what is missing in the crazy conspiracies people come up with.
I still think there was probably a conspiracy around JFK's and MLK's shootings, due to the motive being so obvious and so many details being shady, though I've looked at the evidence, and especially for JFK, it still isn't there.click to expand
You will probably never have full evidence anyway otherwise it wouldn't be a conspiracy. JFK has so many facts that it would be impossible to list them all. The way I see it the Warren Report did everything they could to not change history.
I've forgotten a lot about this case, but I remember seeing a list of over 100 people and witnesses who died between 1963 and 1981. I think many of them weren't old at all. The JFK case is also linked to other cases. For example, there was a lawsuit in 1981/82: a newspaper had written an article about Howard Hunt, a CIA agent who was said to be one of the killers or guys who organized the whole thing in Dallas (there are pictures of him with other agents) and the newspaper proved that Hunt was actually in Dallas that day JFK died. They even had his family on trial and the former CIA director Richard Helms, and all swore under oath that he was in Dallas the day JFK died. That doesn't prove much in itself, but when you connect all the dots together, you have a pretty strange story. Hunt himself confessed on YouTube that they killed JFK, but that was before his death and is obviously not enough evidence due to his age etc.
I'd rather believe in my own instincts than another mans lies. If my instincts are occasionally wrong, thats a fault I can accept. Without combining critical thought & instinct, I'm nothing more than a another fool walking around perpetrating a fraud.
The war between good in evil is far from over
Gear up
The war between good in evil is far from over
Gear up
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Leo girl at work. She's fully into a lot of new age bullshit, and recently saw she was reading david icke 5G theory on the work PC. Even downloaded a transcript.
She's completely crazy , with lots of psychological problems and constantly quoting new age/spirituality books.
she literally takes what is written in those books and repeats it without critical sense or personal opinion. I think she won't end well
David Icke is a shill. His stupid theories on reptile people are a complete joke. He’s an agent of misinformation. That’s the reason why he’s still alive . He a complete clown 🤡 / agent .
Most people that have come up with the truth are murdered in some way or another.click to expand
yes, the more clown they are the more popular, and the longer they remain in the spotlight. No surprise there.
Posted by LaPetiteEtoile
I’ll definitely buy into some conspiracies but only if I don’t see any alternative. Or if I’ve gotten so much information that I can’t believe anything else.
I am pretty good at updated my thoughts when enough evidence is provided so I don’t feel that crazy but I also don’t automatically assume what I’m being told is correct.
same!
Posted by TheSag
Conspiracies are as old as humans. The first famous political conspiracy was the murder of Caesar by several senators. What worked at that time still works today. The only difference is to distinguish between bs conspiracies and real ones.
See this german politician here? He was found dead in the 80s in his hotel room and ruled a suicide.
This picture has never been shown publicly and was published by the then prosecutor of the case, who wrote a book about it. He was not allowed to continue the investigation
Please, stay safe. 😢
i don't know her.
Posted by LostinmyMind11
Hell we are lied to everyday so it's hard to not assume there is more going on than what we are being told....and there usually is.
Yes there are some really far fetched ones out there but also on one hand...let's look at the past and what our government has done...let's take experiments on humans, playing with dark matter, the shit they allow in our food etc etc...so it's very plausible for them to pretty much do anything at this point.
I always find it funny that even tho we know what our government is capable of and majority of people bitch and complain about them...people still take what they say as gospel and call the ones who don't... illogical, stupid, crazy etc. We can see just by this pandemic even the so called "experts" have no idea.
I'm open minded to all possibilities but take everything with a grain of salt as well and will never automatically assume what I'm being told is the truth.
well said.
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Mercury in Dipshit
And moon in Boomerclick to expand
hey you 🙂
Posted by nanorobot
I have an ex family friend, I say ex because he is unstable and I can’t tolerate him anymore, it was a friend of my dads, now 67 years old or something, keeps sending me shit all day about planes flying over where I live and “dropping coronavirus and other chemicals” on us. Demanding I look out my windows for the next drop
Fucking psycho. I just ignore it and he sends more
He also loves theory and conspiracies on the Rothschild family
He’s Libra/Scorpio
This is the same dude that made a 16 yr old chili’s waitress cry because he accused her of scanning his credit card an stealing his numbers when he went to pay (never happened)
Quintessential boomer, probably time for another 3 year block sesh
lol
*cap moon elbow bump*
Posted by exoskeleton_
during this period of fake news, unreliable news, and conspiracy theories - which signs/influence do you notice really drinking the koolaid?
like those peeps posting about chem trails, 5g radiation, bio weapons, population control, end times prophecies, etc?
i love a good conspiracy and perhaps there's some truth in them, but generally take them with a grain of salt and research.
thoughts? *taking notes for a project*
All of them are "BASED" on actual facts and patterns. That is how they are able to survive "shallow" scrutiny. What makes them X-Files and am radio conspiracies, is the why logic. It is just wrong or straight up schizophrenic. The why gets twisted and other unrelated stuff gets lumped and so the narrative had to be redone to compensate. Then more stuff is added based off of the unrelated ideas and it just evolves into to crazy shit.
P.S. I have been around real schizophrenics. This is what happens😑
Astrology wise retrogrades are a breeding ground for both their creation and also thier exposure.
Posted by TopSecret
As usual, people who tell the truth around here get censored.
Note my thread about the lies and fraud oozing out of the CDC, VA, WHO, and other criminal organizations was deleted.
Crybabies and wimps.
it would take you 30-45 minutes of googling to see where the origin of your post came from and how the truth got twisted into what you have been fed and choose to believe.
I actually looked up everything and laid it all out. However the thread was deleted and it deleted my post I was just about to post😓
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As usual, people who tell the truth around here get censored.
Note my thread about the lies and fraud oozing out of the CDC, VA, WHO, and other criminal organizations was deleted.
Crybabies and wimps.
it would take you 30-45 minutes of googling to see where the origin of your post came from and how the truth got twisted into what you have been fed and choose to believe.
I actually looked up everything and laid it all out. However the thread was deleted and it deleted my post I was just about to post😓
I have observed this website is actually an absolute hotbed of leftist creeps and crybabies.
They get especially obvious about their creepiness when you tell the truth about things.click to expand
You didn't acknowledge anything I just said. Your just repeating the same talking point over and over. Do you realise your just parroting instead of, thinking independently and looking things up from multiple credible sources yourself?
I'm sceptical by nature.
I spent a decent amount of time looking up and reading what your thread was about. I gave what you said the benefit of doubt and took you seriously. So I looked it up avoiding political sites and news reports. I stuck with medical and pharmaceutical sites. I can see why they came to those conclusions and why they are mistaken. Are you capable of that?
I looked up each drug and what it does. Then how it could help with covid. Then back again at the drug to verify if it is even plausible what they say by looking either at what the drug actually does in the disease it is originally meant to treat.
The drugs are niche. One suppresses the berserk immune response that some people get, with covid. This a course puts them at deaths door to begin with, since their immune system is attacking their lung tissue and destroying it worse then the virus. So no it isn't no where near effective as they imply. That is a very pitiful situation and only a small percentage get that complication from covid.
The other as a vaccine is also limited and indirect. Over time the medication changes the cells membrane. Some Viruses like covid-19, are specialized in the way they attach to cells and what kind of cells they prefer outside of random mutations. Covid is respiratory. So indirectly effective. It takes 3 months of treatment From the meds to change your cells in this way. These drugs have side effects of their own regarding other cell tissue in the human body. Eye and heart tissue complications are mentioned every medical site I read. Even then no real studies on the rate of this. It's volunteer reporting and I could find any hard data on the chances of side effects🤔
One of the studies referenced was the meds directly in a petree dish. The human body doesn't work that way.
Did you fact check yourself anything you read from multiple courses yourself or are you just dead set on blaming political discourse?
My dad used to go on tangents about the Rothschild's, Jade helm etc etc ... usually when he was drinking at the fam gatherings...my cousin always got a kick out of it and would laugh and joke that is until he got into the military...let's just say he no longer laughs about that stuff anymore. I wish I could elaborate and even tho he technically won't get in trouble for the things he can talk about and he publicly does ...I don't wanna put him at risk anymore than I have right now. Sounds dramatic I know but I don't want to chance it.
Everything starts off as a theory until there is proof and it may not exactly be in the way the original theory stated but it's usually pretty damn close. So idk how anyone can completely write them off.
Let's take the Bill Gates theory for example...tech mogul turned philanthropist who is very much for population control. He funded Gardasil vaccine trials in poor countries and also was involved re the depo shots. Now, out of all the diseases in the world...why is his foundation so adamant on making sure the hpv vaccine and birth control is available to woman. 🤔 someone who advocates population control has dealings in vaccines that strictly target woman's reproductive systems. Nah, there's no way his foundation could use the vaccines as a form of population control...thats just crazy talk... totally illogical. *Sarcasm*.
There is also the theory he has the vaccine for covid. Ok, so he gives a Ted talk on pandemics years ago, he deals in vaccines, is the largest contributor to the WHO organization...well, looky there...hmmm, we're in the middle of a pandemic, there are claims he funded the Wuhan lab at the very least tho he is an advocate for the Chinese academy of sciences. Notice how much he is being interviewed and asked his opinion...a former tech mogul's opinion on the pandemic. Nah, that's not strange at all. I mean come on...a multi billionaire tech mogul who basically runs the WHO organization with his funds couldn't possibly have any type of ulterior motive. Nah, not the man who has funds in Monsanto and supports genic engineering of food or who has the means and funds to fix a multitude of issues...like idk, Flint MI water issue for example but wants to make sure cervical cancer in woman who may or may not ever get cervical cancer are vaccinated. Just a bunch of crazy talk...no way at all any of that could be connected.
Anyway, did y'all catch the pandemic docuseries on Netflix released shortly before our own pandemic? Purely coincidental of course....we haven't been told for years that "they" tell us what's going to happen via tv, movies etc...right in front of our faces at all.
And Epstein didn't kill himself 😆 and I'm definitely my father's daughter lmao
/TED talk
Everything starts off as a theory until there is proof and it may not exactly be in the way the original theory stated but it's usually pretty damn close. So idk how anyone can completely write them off.
Let's take the Bill Gates theory for example...tech mogul turned philanthropist who is very much for population control. He funded Gardasil vaccine trials in poor countries and also was involved re the depo shots. Now, out of all the diseases in the world...why is his foundation so adamant on making sure the hpv vaccine and birth control is available to woman. 🤔 someone who advocates population control has dealings in vaccines that strictly target woman's reproductive systems. Nah, there's no way his foundation could use the vaccines as a form of population control...thats just crazy talk... totally illogical. *Sarcasm*.
There is also the theory he has the vaccine for covid. Ok, so he gives a Ted talk on pandemics years ago, he deals in vaccines, is the largest contributor to the WHO organization...well, looky there...hmmm, we're in the middle of a pandemic, there are claims he funded the Wuhan lab at the very least tho he is an advocate for the Chinese academy of sciences. Notice how much he is being interviewed and asked his opinion...a former tech mogul's opinion on the pandemic. Nah, that's not strange at all. I mean come on...a multi billionaire tech mogul who basically runs the WHO organization with his funds couldn't possibly have any type of ulterior motive. Nah, not the man who has funds in Monsanto and supports genic engineering of food or who has the means and funds to fix a multitude of issues...like idk, Flint MI water issue for example but wants to make sure cervical cancer in woman who may or may not ever get cervical cancer are vaccinated. Just a bunch of crazy talk...no way at all any of that could be connected.
Anyway, did y'all catch the pandemic docuseries on Netflix released shortly before our own pandemic? Purely coincidental of course....we haven't been told for years that "they" tell us what's going to happen via tv, movies etc...right in front of our faces at all.
And Epstein didn't kill himself 😆 and I'm definitely my father's daughter lmao
/TED talk
Posted by TopSecretPosted by LostthoughtsPosted by TopSecretPosted by LostthoughtsPosted by TopSecret
As usual, people who tell the truth around here get censored.
Note my thread about the lies and fraud oozing out of the CDC, VA, WHO, and other criminal organizations was deleted.
Crybabies and wimps.
it would take you 30-45 minutes of googling to see where the origin of your post came from and how the truth got twisted into what you have been fed and choose to believe.
I actually looked up everything and laid it all out. However the thread was deleted and it deleted my post I was just about to post😓
I have observed this website is actually an absolute hotbed of leftist creeps and crybabies.
They get especially obvious about their creepiness when you tell the truth about things.
You didn't acknowledge anything I just said. Your just repeating the same talking point over and over. Do you realise your just parroting instead of, thinking independently and looking things up from multiple credible sources yourself?
I'm sceptical by nature.
I spent a decent amount of time looking up and reading what your thread was about. I can see why they came to those conclusions and why they are mistaken. Are you capable of that?
I looked up each drug and what it does. Then how it could help with covid. Then back again at the drug to verify if it is even plausible what they say by looking either at what the drug actually does in the disease it is originally meant to treat.
The drugs are niche. One suppresses the berserk immune response that some people get, with covid. This a course puts them at deaths door to begin with, since their immune system is attacking their lung tissue and destroying it worse then the virus. So no it isn't no where near effective as they imply. That is a very pitiful situation and only a small percentage get that complication from covid.
The other as a vaccine is also limited and indirect. Over time the medication changes the cells membrane. Some Viruses like covid-19, are specialized in the way they attach to cells and what kind of cells they prefer outside of random mutations. Covid is respiratory. So indirectly effective. It takes 3 months of treatment From the meds to change your cells in this way. These drugs have side effects of their own regarding other cell tissue in the human body. Eye and heart tissue complications are mentioned every medical site I read. Even then no real studies on the rate of this. It's volunteer reporting and I could find any hard data on the chances of side effects🤔
One of the studies referenced was the meds directly in a petree dish. The human body doesn't work that way.
Did you fact check yourself anything you read from multiple courses yourself or are you just dead set on blaming political discourse?
Your questions would be better suited for the corrupt-AF organizations I cited as fraudulent in their research.
But noooooooo.....
Instead, you choose to demonize me personally over things you clearly don't know the inherent nature of.
Tell me this, genius.
Was the study posted by the VA and FDA valid and honest? You know, the one which denied outright the efficacy of the antidote (which works everywhere else EXCEPT the corrupt US federal organizations "testing" it)?click to expand
I don't blindly trust anyone or thing that includes the VA and FDA. Which is why I took the time to look it up myself. So I'm not sure why you keep bring that up. You didn't acknowledge anything I just said. You just repeated what you have said before without taking anything I said into consideration.
If you actually gave me the same courtesy I have been showing you, you would have a answer to your question. At the very least you could poke holes into what "I" not the FDA and VA. Then I would again check on it and either agree and validate your point, disagree and say why, or a little of both.
I'm beginning to think your main reason for that post was about the politics rather then the actual issues. Is this true and that is what really bothers you? The political and ideology of the left?
What about neptune placements? Like merc conjunct nep. Could that also lead to heavy disillusionment or general confusion of what's real or fake. Also maybe some scorpio and gem combo?
Posted by LostthoughtsPosted by TopSecretPosted by LostthoughtsPosted by TopSecretPosted by LostthoughtsPosted by TopSecret
As usual, people who tell the truth around here get censored.
Note my thread about the lies and fraud oozing out of the CDC, VA, WHO, and other criminal organizations was deleted.
Crybabies and wimps.
it would take you 30-45 minutes of googling to see where the origin of your post came from and how the truth got twisted into what you have been fed and choose to believe.
I actually looked up everything and laid it all out. However the thread was deleted and it deleted my post I was just about to post😓
I have observed this website is actually an absolute hotbed of leftist creeps and crybabies.
They get especially obvious about their creepiness when you tell the truth about things.
You didn't acknowledge anything I just said. Your just repeating the same talking point over and over. Do you realise your just parroting instead of, thinking independently and looking things up from multiple credible sources yourself?
I'm sceptical by nature.
I spent a decent amount of time looking up and reading what your thread was about. I can see why they came to those conclusions and why they are mistaken. Are you capable of that?
I looked up each drug and what it does. Then how it could help with covid. Then back again at the drug to verify if it is even plausible what they say by looking either at what the drug actually does in the disease it is originally meant to treat.
The drugs are niche. One suppresses the berserk immune response that some people get, with covid. This a course puts them at deaths door to begin with, since their immune system is attacking their lung tissue and destroying it worse then the virus. So no it isn't no where near effective as they imply. That is a very pitiful situation and only a small percentage get that complication from covid.
The other as a vaccine is also limited and indirect. Over time the medication changes the cells membrane. Some Viruses like covid-19, are specialized in the way they attach to cells and what kind of cells they prefer outside of random mutations. Covid is respiratory. So indirectly effective. It takes 3 months of treatment From the meds to change your cells in this way. These drugs have side effects of their own regarding other cell tissue in the human body. Eye and heart tissue complications are mentioned every medical site I read. Even then no real studies on the rate of this. It's volunteer reporting and I could find any hard data on the chances of side effects🤔
One of the studies referenced was the meds directly in a petree dish. The human body doesn't work that way.
Did you fact check yourself anything you read from multiple courses yourself or are you just dead set on blaming political discourse?
Your questions would be better suited for the corrupt-AF organizations I cited as fraudulent in their research.
But noooooooo.....
Instead, you choose to demonize me personally over things you clearly don't know the inherent nature of.
Tell me this, genius.
Was the study posted by the VA and FDA valid and honest? You know, the one which denied outright the efficacy of the antidote (which works everywhere else EXCEPT the corrupt US federal organizations "testing" it)?
I don't blindly trust anyone or thing that includes the VA and FDA. Which is why I took the time to look it up myself. So I'm not sure why you keep bring that up. You didn't acknowledge anything I just said. You just repeated what you have said before without taking anything I said into consideration.
If you actually gave me the same courtesy I have been showing you, you would have a answer to your question. At the very least you could poke holes into what "I" not the FDA and VA. Then I would again check on it and either agree and validate your point, disagree and say why, or a little of both.
I'm beginning to think your main reason for that post was about the politics rather then the actual issues. Is this true and that is what really bothers you? The political and ideology of the left?click to expand
which is ironic considering that's the same tactics the corrupt left employs. Politics has a time and a place.
Wait.. Covid 19 is caused by 5G—!!! I knew it! 😲
Not to mention that Bill & Melinda Gates organization has been in hot water with India’s government relating polio vaccines which apparently left some 450,000 + children paralyzed during 2015-17 trials.
Furthermore, some African country (can’t recall which one atm) is/has been reporting similar devastating side effects (including 100 + deaths) pertaining malaria vacation with, again, Gates organization spearheading those trials.
Enough “smoke” to make one pose and raise a brow!
As far as your dad and the Rothchilds goes.... he is right through and trough.
*puts tin foil hat on & goes back to sitting in the corner*
Furthermore, some African country (can’t recall which one atm) is/has been reporting similar devastating side effects (including 100 + deaths) pertaining malaria vacation with, again, Gates organization spearheading those trials.
Enough “smoke” to make one pose and raise a brow!
As far as your dad and the Rothchilds goes.... he is right through and trough.
*puts tin foil hat on & goes back to sitting in the corner*
Posted by FactCheckPosted by LostthoughtsPosted by TopSecretPosted by LostthoughtsPosted by TopSecret
As usual, people who tell the truth around here get censored.
Note my thread about the lies and fraud oozing out of the CDC, VA, WHO, and other criminal organizations was deleted.
Crybabies and wimps.
it would take you 30-45 minutes of googling to see where the origin of your post came from and how the truth got twisted into what you have been fed and choose to believe.
I actually looked up everything and laid it all out. However the thread was deleted and it deleted my post I was just about to post😓
I have observed this website is actually an absolute hotbed of leftist creeps and crybabies.
They get especially obvious about their creepiness when you tell the truth about things.
You didn't acknowledge anything I just said. Your just repeating the same talking point over and over. Do you realise your just parroting instead of, thinking independently and looking things up from multiple credible sources yourself?
I'm sceptical by nature.
I spent a decent amount of time looking up and reading what your thread was about. I gave what you said the benefit of doubt and took you seriously. So I looked it up avoiding political sites and news reports. I stuck with medical and pharmaceutical sites. I can see why they came to those conclusions and why they are mistaken. Are you capable of that?
I looked up each drug and what it does. Then how it could help with covid. Then back again at the drug to verify if it is even plausible what they say by looking either at what the drug actually does in the disease it is originally meant to treat.
The drugs are niche. One suppresses the berserk immune response that some people get, with covid. This a course puts them at deaths door to begin with, since their immune system is attacking their lung tissue and destroying it worse then the virus. So no it isn't no where near effective as they imply. That is a very pitiful situation and only a small percentage get that complication from covid.
The other as a vaccine is also limited and indirect. Over time the medication changes the cells membrane. Some Viruses like covid-19, are specialized in the way they attach to cells and what kind of cells they prefer outside of random mutations. Covid is respiratory. So indirectly effective. It takes 3 months of treatment From the meds to change your cells in this way. These drugs have side effects of their own regarding other cell tissue in the human body. Eye and heart tissue complications are mentioned every medical site I read. Even then no real studies on the rate of this. It's volunteer reporting and I could find any hard data on the chances of side effects🤔
One of the studies referenced was the meds directly in a petree dish. The human body doesn't work that way.
Did you fact check yourself anything you read from multiple courses yourself or are you just dead set on blaming political discourse?
Why do all phones want people to spell skeptical like sceptical? I'm serious. It's a conspiracy. I've not once seen someone spell it correctly and even my phones have tried to autocorrect it as if skeptical isnt a word.click to expand
Ya I know right! I have to look up and teach my phone words. "Probably" took quite awhile for my phone to accept as a word. It really doesn't help that I'm dyslexic and I don't naturally catch most mistakes myself without double checking everything like a middle schooler😑
Posted by jezzyboo21Posted by LostthoughtsPosted by TopSecretPosted by LostthoughtsPosted by TopSecretPosted by LostthoughtsPosted by TopSecret
As usual, people who tell the truth around here get censored.
Note my thread about the lies and fraud oozing out of the CDC, VA, WHO, and other criminal organizations was deleted.
Crybabies and wimps.
it would take you 30-45 minutes of googling to see where the origin of your post came from and how the truth got twisted into what you have been fed and choose to believe.
I actually looked up everything and laid it all out. However the thread was deleted and it deleted my post I was just about to post😓
I have observed this website is actually an absolute hotbed of leftist creeps and crybabies.
They get especially obvious about their creepiness when you tell the truth about things.
You didn't acknowledge anything I just said. Your just repeating the same talking point over and over. Do you realise your just parroting instead of, thinking independently and looking things up from multiple credible sources yourself?
I'm sceptical by nature.
I spent a decent amount of time looking up and reading what your thread was about. I can see why they came to those conclusions and why they are mistaken. Are you capable of that?
I looked up each drug and what it does. Then how it could help with covid. Then back again at the drug to verify if it is even plausible what they say by looking either at what the drug actually does in the disease it is originally meant to treat.
The drugs are niche. One suppresses the berserk immune response that some people get, with covid. This a course puts them at deaths door to begin with, since their immune system is attacking their lung tissue and destroying it worse then the virus. So no it isn't no where near effective as they imply. That is a very pitiful situation and only a small percentage get that complication from covid.
The other as a vaccine is also limited and indirect. Over time the medication changes the cells membrane. Some Viruses like covid-19, are specialized in the way they attach to cells and what kind of cells they prefer outside of random mutations. Covid is respiratory. So indirectly effective. It takes 3 months of treatment From the meds to change your cells in this way. These drugs have side effects of their own regarding other cell tissue in the human body. Eye and heart tissue complications are mentioned every medical site I read. Even then no real studies on the rate of this. It's volunteer reporting and I could find any hard data on the chances of side effects🤔
One of the studies referenced was the meds directly in a petree dish. The human body doesn't work that way.
Did you fact check yourself anything you read from multiple courses yourself or are you just dead set on blaming political discourse?
Your questions would be better suited for the corrupt-AF organizations I cited as fraudulent in their research.
But noooooooo.....
Instead, you choose to demonize me personally over things you clearly don't know the inherent nature of.
Tell me this, genius.
Was the study posted by the VA and FDA valid and honest? You know, the one which denied outright the efficacy of the antidote (which works everywhere else EXCEPT the corrupt US federal organizations "testing" it)?
I don't blindly trust anyone or thing that includes the VA and FDA. Which is why I took the time to look it up myself. So I'm not sure why you keep bring that up. You didn't acknowledge anything I just said. You just repeated what you have said before without taking anything I said into consideration.
If you actually gave me the same courtesy I have been showing you, you would have a answer to your question. At the very least you could poke holes into what "I" not the FDA and VA. Then I would again check on it and either agree and validate your point, disagree and say why, or a little of both.
I'm beginning to think your main reason for that post was about the politics rather then the actual issues. Is this true and that is what really bothers you? The political and ideology of the left?
which is ironic considering that's the same tactics the corrupt left employs. Politics has a time and a place.click to expand
Since when has corruption, sin, and other darker aspects of human behavior ever discriminated and picked sides? I actually guarantee you their are self-serving bad actors on the left side of American politics as well. Just like there is genuinely competent good leaders and policymakers hiding on both sides.
I say hiding because, you very rarely hear about them and what they have to say in the media let alone in a real leadership position in Washington. They exist but being overshadowed by the shit show politicians that we find so entertaining in the media. After all it is more about ratings then the truth and actual reporting for the majority of their content they produce. It is a for profit business. They share collective responsibility for the trash that they helped get elected though parroting their narratives instead of objective reporting and fact checking. You know the reason they exist in the first place.
They only care about their own personal interests, their party/tribe, and a course being re-elected. Which means keeping their political donors happy. Very little problem solving and policy making is happening. Nor is there any insentive to do so. Spin things the right way and you can blame this failure on someone else. With the bonus of using it as a rallying cry, for public support to get reelected. Deception, misdirection, and fear are very effective tools 🙃
I use to think they just didn't see eye to eye but there as been many bills and political appointments that one side supported that was shelved. Years later the other side brings up the exact same thing or person and all a sudden it's a political (insert party name) hackery. Watching what these politicians say and then actually seeing there actions makes me think of who the Rome pacified it's population with entertainment from the roman colosseum.
They were so focused on the show they didn't notice things going to shit around them. One big distraction. Are you not entertained?
This isn't a conspiracy theory either.There is NOT a bunch of people conspiring to do this intentionally. It's nearly a observation of cause and effect of what is happening as a whole.
None of this is going to change until we drop the tribalism of left vs right , Us vs. Them.
We need to support any complement policy makers that aren't self-serving, offer real solutions, not afraid to offer up contradictory opinions to their party and the maturity to hash things out with others to get things done. If we want real change we need to support and vote for them.
No more people who just use entertaining rhetoric, tell us what we want to hear, vote with their party like sheep, and. Say empty promises to get elected. We need mature free thinking adults not grown people acting out the book Lord of the Flies.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc_GUPsHxFY
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X86aJvB4EZE
What's your favorite position?
And state your Sun Venus and Mars****
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* REPOST*
VENUS RX IN GEMINI 2020
Dear all,
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Using this chart as an example:
https://imgur.com/B5Ru7H6
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Man's Mars conjunct Woman's Venus
OR
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virgo venus 11th house
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over hype
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ62eRYJR4c
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- Saturn in 7th house (S
Cancer or Virgo
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like those peeps posting about chem trails, 5g radiation, bio weapons, population control, end times prophecies, etc?
i love a good conspiracy and perhaps there's some truth in them, but generally take them with a grain of salt and research.
thoughts? *taking notes for a project*