When a man cries?

This topic was created in the Astrology forum by Piscis_Hominis on Tuesday, June 9, 2020 and has 16 replies.
I just found myself playing with the stereotype that Pisces cry too much on here so I kind of caught myself doing it and decided to post something.

My father is deceased. He seldom showed a lot of emotion around me, but he would joke a lot with others and was known for his sense of humour. He had trouble showing affection. He had a brain hemorrhage and massive stroke when I was in university and lived for another 8+ years. Though he wasn't the same physically or mentally afterward I'm ever so grateful for the extra time I had with him. I was also able to get to know him in a different way, joking with him and laughing with him. The stroke also made it very easy for him to cry out of nowhere, even bawling, though he laughed quite easily too.

He was born in Europe and our family visited for the first time when I was 12. I remember when he first saw his sister and mother, they were bawling and he was bawling, for a while. It was the first time I had seen my dad cry. They even bawled when we went to visit my mother's place, knowing that we were going to come back again in a couple of weeks. He bawled with them when we left and when we returned again, and then when we departed. My dad's mother was a bawler along with his sister. (As an aside, my mom's mother didn't overdo things in that department, a few tears maybe.)

I just looked up my dad's chart. He's a Sag Sun and Cancer Moon, with a Scorpio Venus.

I've also resolved in my life that men often pack things away rather than facing them. I used to think this was strong but have come to realize that it takes more strength to talk about things and ask for help. Hiding things away is easier. Once you are comfortable talking about things in a mature manner, then that becomes a lot easier.

Remember, I'm not talking about people who are crybabies and complain to the world all the time. I think there are complainers across the zodiac, just like any sign can cheat.

Personally I think it takes a lot of strength to be vulnerable with a partner, to put yourself out there, and to cry if it's warranted. My favourite films are dramas that make me feel, whether it's sadness, joy, anger, etc... I can't watch some of my favourite films too often as they are too painful, but I still enjoy experiencing it, even it is despair and sadness, especially in empathizing with the characters.

I just wanted to see what others thought about men crying. Do you view it as weakness or strength?
Your father is a special case. He seems to have lost his emotional restraint most of us have. Inconvenient in some ways but his emotional response I'd wager where always his truth, without filter.

That being said. As a adult male, if I see another man cry or get choked up shit as hit the fucking fan. Honestly I borderline envy your father for being able to be that open without judgement.
Those are my placements and I rarely cry. I too will cry if someone I care for is crying or if they have hurt me, if I don’t get angry first. Usually I try to avoid those types of situations because I’m too empathetic when it comes to that. I feel too much and it’s draining. People seem to take even more interest in why I’m crying when they’ve never seen me cry.

I usually cry in private.

But. I think it’s healthy to cry for men and women. There is nothing wrong with whenever you choose to cry. If you feel it, let it flow. It helps out a lot to heal the hurt.

Sorry to hear about your dad.

I usually am the strong one for the people that need me. I’d rather be that, in these types of tough situations, then be the one alongside crying as well. I want to be there for anyone who needs my help, I’m at their disposal and I need to be clear headed, so I hold back my emotions until I’m in private and am not needed for the particular situation anymore.

I also cry at movies. I like having emotions and putting them to use every now and then.
My stepdad's the opposite as far as sun/moon...Cancer sun, Sag moon. I can't remember seeing him ever cry in front of my brothers and I...but I do know he has a very big heart, is sensitive, and expresses more positive emotions at the drop of a hat - he has one of the loudest and most joyful laughs I've come across. If you lose him in a store, you'll soon hear him laughing and talking to some random 10 aisles away...lol.

Anywho back to the whole emotions stuff. I know for myself and other Sag suns I know (I'm female, may differ slightly idk) that we often push the 'icky' feelings to the back burner. We don't wanna deal, we sometimes don't even know HOW to deal with them so when they all build up, and are pent up inside of us, sometimes that volcano erupts and we let it out. And then 5 minutes later we feel better and are laughing and smiling again.

But yeah, EQ is important especially in close relationships 💛 if you can't open up to someone, especially loved ones, you're holding onto a burden you don't necessarily have to carry.
Posted by akitu

I agree with you, I think that was really beautifully put and was beautiful to read
Thank you.
I agree. I think it shows more strength when a man can find himself vulnerable enough to cry sometimes. My family in general was emotionally constipated, so it took me quite some time to become okay with my sensitive nature. I was made to think I was crazy or that something was wrong with me early on for my show of emotion. I ended up closing it off until my mom died and I went to therapy. Once the flood gates were opened again, I found it difficult without drugs to shut it off. I was always a runner, emotionally. Never taught to fully embrace my nature until I chose to in adulthood. I quite like it now. I may feel very strongly, but I at least know how to cope with my emotions. It felt like I could literally die from my feelings before.

My double Scorpio ex was the first man I’ve been in a relationship with that was very sensitive in a pure way. I often sought out emotionally constipated men like my father before that. He really opened my eyes to the true strength of a man’s sensitive side. Emotions weren’t used or viewed in a negative way. I don’t think I’ll ever be with a man who will cry at the drop of a hat! But I do appreciate a man who isn’t closed off to his emotions because it encourages me to feel comfortable being my sensitive self.

The only other men I’ve dated who have also shown sensitivity like this are the Pisces and the Virgo, though the former used emotions to manipulate. It all felt very fabricated in a way. He seemed more like an emotional leech than someone who had them on his own, if that makes sense. But then again, he was very unhealthy altogether. I’m very sure a healthy person doesn’t act like that, especially a double Pisces. I rarely see the Virgo cry but he does occasionally, especially when he’s having down days missing his dead brother and friends. He usually cries alone though, and the last time it was something in a movie that set it off. He experienced some great losses all at once in his 20s and it’s only now that he’s beginning to get past the grief of it all. It makes me really glad to be where I am with my own because I’m better prepared to talk him through his.

I remember thinking a long time ago that it was all or nothing—either I cared about everything or nothing at all. And for a while I chose the latter which I thought would be easier and feel safer but really wasn’t at all. I caused myself more grief running from my nature than fully embracing it. I’m happy to be me nowadays, and I’m trying to make better choices of who to surround myself with because I am extremely sensitive to my environment.
Posted by AbbyNormal

I agree. I think it shows more strength when a man can find himself vulnerable enough to cry sometimes. My family in general was emotionally constipated, so it took me quite some time to become okay with my sensitive nature. I was made to think I was crazy or that something was wrong with me early on for my show of emotion. I ended up closing it off until my mom died and I went to therapy. Once the flood gates were opened again, I found it difficult without drugs to shut it off. I was always a runner, emotionally. Never taught to fully embrace my nature until I chose to in adulthood. I quite like it now. I may feel very strongly, but I at least know how to cope with my emotions. It felt like I could literally die from my feelings before.

My double Scorpio ex was the first man I’ve been in a relationship with that was very sensitive in a pure way. I often sought out emotionally constipated men like my father before that. He really opened my eyes to the true strength of a man’s sensitive side. Emotions weren’t used or viewed in a negative way. I don’t think I’ll ever be with a man who will cry at the drop of a hat! But I do appreciate a man who isn’t closed off to his emotions because it encourages me to feel comfortable being my sensitive self.

The only other men I’ve dated who have also shown sensitivity like this are the Pisces and the Virgo, though the former used emotions to manipulate. It all felt very fabricated in a way. He seemed more like an emotional leech than someone who had them on his own, if that makes sense. I rarely see the Virgo cry but he does occasionally, especially when he’s having down days missing his dead brother and friends. He usually cries alone though, and the last time it was something in a movie that set it off. He experienced some great losses all at once in his 20s and it’s only now that he’s beginning to get past the grief of it all. It makes me really glad to be where I am with my own because I’m better prepared to talk him through his.

I remember thinking a long time ago that it was all or nothing—either I cared about everything or nothing at all. And for a while I chose the latter which I thought would be easier and feel safer but really wasn’t at all. I caused myself more grief running from my nature than fully embracing it. I’m happy to be me nowadays, and I’m trying to make better choices of who to surround myself with because I am extremely sensitive to my environment.
I started to learn more about astrology when I first came here years ago. I really found it has allowed me to get more comfortable with who I am and to understand myself a bit more. I try to embrace the emotions I feel and process more now. I think I fought it before and was trying to fit in a world that I didn't understand and understood too much, all at the same time.

I still try to keep things in check when I'm meeting a woman for the first time, or with the first few dates, but usually it just comes out. I pick up on things, can talk about things easily that maybe other people can't, etc... I'm confident that I've scared off a few women who were not ready for me.

Probably the biggest connection I've had was with a Scorpio woman who wasn't emotionally available. She was lonely, wanted companionship, and a friend. We started long distance and I remember her telling me on the phone early on, in a moment of awe, wonder, and freaking out - "OMG it's like your'e in my mind!" I tried to hang in there but in the end she amputated me for her own survival, I have no doubt about that. I'm just saying, that I was there for her, being myself, but I know it scared the butter out of her in the end.

Like I said previously, my father never showed a lot of emotion and affection toward me. He actually called me "Boy" most of the time, and rarely called me by my first name. It actually pains me to type this out right now. Just a bit. smile My mother is a Libra and she is very loving but doesn't show me a lot of affection and support. Never has. She was more hovering than loving growing up. She never apologizes to me for anything, she points out flaws, and dwells in the past. But I know both of them were/are good people who loved/love me. I don't hold on to any animosity.

I remember when I finished school and got my first real job in the big city about 4 hrs away. My father was ill and my mother took care of him for 8+ years - bless her. My older sister was away at school for her second degree. She's a Sag like my dad and keeps things bottled in like him too. Anyway, at some point I realized that when I was away and speaking to them all on the phone, that I might not see them again. I could be travelling back home and get in an accident or something. So I took it upon myself to start saying, "I love you" to them. We would never say that to each other before. But I got my dad to say it. My mom to say it. My sister to say it. Even with my mom and sister right now, they kind of say it but it's hard for them to say it still. But we still say it.

My father died right before Christmas, three days before. I was off work but stayed an extra day to do some Christmas shopping, including buying his gift. I spoke to him the night before, as I was going to drive up the next day. I told him that I loved him and he replied back, his speech muffled from paralysis from his strokes. (He had more since his first big one). But I heard him. He died through the night. I had little time to cry. smile I had to head back to be with my mother and prepare for the funeral with all these people coming home for the holidays. But before I could do that, I had to tell my sister who was 8 months pregnant. I spoke to her husband first. Then I told her and she bawled and bawled. I was so worried that something would happen to her, but she's strong.

I don't beat myself up for shopping instead of going home earlier but I would give anything to have seen my dad one more time. It taught me that material things aren't important. When I got home, I consoled my mother and made sure she knew we would get everything prepared and covered. I thanked her for doing such a great job and for taking care of my father and that we were so lucky for what she did and for him being with us for so long. I was grateful. I slept in my father's hospital bed that night, the bed he died in, and I never felt closer to him.
Didn't mean to go that deep peeps. Don't worry I'm good. I'm grateful.
Posted by jukey

Depends on the reason, but vulnerability and compassion are signs of strength to me. I can't always wear my heart on my sleeve, but there's always a time and place for the tender side.

My dad is a Cancer/Aries moon and he would tell me how his Aquarius dad never showed affection or even an 'i love you.' Very bottled up. On top of his rough upbringing, he vowed to do the opposite with me. Long story short, he succeeded and then some. Great storyteller, very happy go lucky. Laughed and cried together. He never forgot a good deed I did for him and likewise. Taught me a lot and never felt shamed for expressing my feelings.
Great on your dad for overcoming this and recognizing the need for this in raising children. Sounds like an awesome person who people would love to share a drink with and just let him tell a story. Cheers.
Posted by Piscis_Hominis
Posted by AbbyNormal

I agree. I think it shows more strength when a man can find himself vulnerable enough to cry sometimes. My family in general was emotionally constipated, so it took me quite some time to become okay with my sensitive nature. I was made to think I was crazy or that something was wrong with me early on for my show of emotion. I ended up closing it off until my mom died and I went to therapy. Once the flood gates were opened again, I found it difficult without drugs to shut it off. I was always a runner, emotionally. Never taught to fully embrace my nature until I chose to in adulthood. I quite like it now. I may feel very strongly, but I at least know how to cope with my emotions. It felt like I could literally die from my feelings before.

My double Scorpio ex was the first man I’ve been in a relationship with that was very sensitive in a pure way. I often sought out emotionally constipated men like my father before that. He really opened my eyes to the true strength of a man’s sensitive side. Emotions weren’t used or viewed in a negative way. I don’t think I’ll ever be with a man who will cry at the drop of a hat! But I do appreciate a man who isn’t closed off to his emotions because it encourages me to feel comfortable being my sensitive self.

The only other men I’ve dated who have also shown sensitivity like this are the Pisces and the Virgo, though the former used emotions to manipulate. It all felt very fabricated in a way. He seemed more like an emotional leech than someone who had them on his own, if that makes sense. I rarely see the Virgo cry but he does occasionally, especially when he’s having down days missing his dead brother and friends. He usually cries alone though, and the last time it was something in a movie that set it off. He experienced some great losses all at once in his 20s and it’s only now that he’s beginning to get past the grief of it all. It makes me really glad to be where I am with my own because I’m better prepared to talk him through his.

I remember thinking a long time ago that it was all or nothing—either I cared about everything or nothing at all. And for a while I chose the latter which I thought would be easier and feel safer but really wasn’t at all. I caused myself more grief running from my nature than fully embracing it. I’m happy to be me nowadays, and I’m trying to make better choices of who to surround myself with because I am extremely sensitive to my environment.


I started to learn more about astrology when I first came here years ago. I really found it has allowed me to get more comfortable with who I am and to understand myself a bit more. I try to embrace the emotions I feel and process more now. I think I fought it before and was trying to fit in a world that I didn't understand and understood too much, all at the same time.

I still try to keep things in check when I'm meeting a woman for the first time, or with the first few dates, but usually it just comes out. I pick up on things, can talk about things easily that maybe other people can't, etc... I'm confident that I've scared off a few women who were not ready for me.

Probably the biggest connection I've had was with a Scorpio woman who wasn't emotionally available. She was lonely, wanted companionship, and a friend. We started long distance and I remember her telling me on the phone early on, in a moment of awe, wonder, and freaking out - "OMG it's like your'e in my mind!" I tried to hang in there but in the end she amputated me for her own survival, I have no doubt about that. I'm just saying, that I was there for her, being myself, but I know it scared the butter out of her in the end.

Like I said previously, my father never showed a lot of emotion and affection toward me. He actually called me "Boy" most of the time, and rarely called me by my first name. It actually pains me to type this out right now. Just a bit. smile My mother is a Libra and she is very loving but doesn't show me a lot of affection and support. Never has. She was more hovering than loving growing up. She never apologizes to me for anything, she points out flaws, and dwells in the past. But I know both of them were/are good people who loved/love me. I don't hold on to any animosity.

I remember when I finished school and got my first real job in the big city about 4 hrs away. My father was ill and my mother took care of him for 8+ years - bless her. My older sister was away at school for her second degree. She's a Sag like my dad and keeps things bottled in like him too. Anyway, at some point I realized that when I was away and speaking to them all on the phone, that I might not see them again. I could be travelling back home and get in an accident or something. So I took it upon myself to start saying, "I love you" to them. We would never say that to each other before. But I got my dad to say it. My mom to say it. My sister to say it. Even with my mom and sister right now, they kind of say it but it's hard for them to say it still. But we still say it.

My father died right before Christmas, three days before. I was off work but stayed an extra day to do some Christmas shopping, including buying his gift. I spoke to him the night before, as I was going to drive up the next day. I told him that I loved him and he replied back, his speech muffled from paralysis from his strokes. (He had more since his first big one). But I heard him. He died through the night. I had little time to cry. smile I had to head back to be with my mother and prepare for the funeral with all these people coming home for the holidays. But before I could do that, I had to tell my sister who was 8 months pregnant. I spoke to her husband first. Then I told her and she bawled and bawled. I was so worried that something would happen to her, but she's strong.

I don't beat myself up for shopping instead of going home earlier but I would give anything to have seen my dad one more time. It taught me that material things aren't important. When I got home, I consoled my mother and made sure she knew we would get everything prepared and covered. I thanked her for doing such a great job and for taking care of my father and that we were so lucky for what she did and for him being with us for so long. I was grateful. I slept in my father's hospital bed that night, the bed he died in, and I never felt closer to him.
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I kept trying to write something back on this and it getting interrupted.

I’m sure I’ve told you before but you have quite a way with words and emoting. I always appreciate your openness. You are a rare breed. Very beautiful.

Posted by Piscis_Hominis

I just found myself playing with the stereotype that Pisces cry too much on here so I kind of caught myself doing it and decided to post something.

My father is deceased. He seldom showed a lot of emotion around me, but he would joke a lot with others and was known for his sense of humour. He had trouble showing affection. He had a brain hemorrhage and massive stroke when I was in university and lived for another 8+ years. Though he wasn't the same physically or mentally afterward I'm ever so grateful for the extra time I had with him. I was also able to get to know him in a different way, joking with him and laughing with him. The stroke also made it very easy for him to cry out of nowhere, even bawling, though he laughed quite easily too.

He was born in Europe and our family visited for the first time when I was 12. I remember when he first saw his sister and mother, they were bawling and he was bawling, for a while. It was the first time I had seen my dad cry. They even bawled when we went to visit my mother's place, knowing that we were going to come back again in a couple of weeks. He bawled with them when we left and when we returned again, and then when we departed. My dad's mother was a bawler along with his sister. (As an aside, my mom's mother didn't overdo things in that department, a few tears maybe.)

I just looked up my dad's chart. He's a Sag Sun and Cancer Moon, with a Scorpio Venus.

I've also resolved in my life that men often pack things away rather than facing them. I used to think this was strong but have come to realize that it takes more strength to talk about things and ask for help. Hiding things away is easier. Once you are comfortable talking about things in a mature manner, then that becomes a lot easier.

Remember, I'm not talking about people who are crybabies and complain to the world all the time. I think there are complainers across the zodiac, just like any sign can cheat.

Personally I think it takes a lot of strength to be vulnerable with a partner, to put yourself out there, and to cry if it's warranted. My favourite films are dramas that make me feel, whether it's sadness, joy, anger, etc... I can't watch some of my favourite films too often as they are too painful, but I still enjoy experiencing it, even it is despair and sadness, especially in empathizing with the characters.

I just wanted to see what others thought about men crying. Do you view it as weakness or strength?
I love that you are very Pisces in Sun Moon, Mercury and Venus too.

I'm a Capricorn but I also have Pisces Venus, and Cap Mars 😊
Posted by pooface222
Posted by Piscis_Hominis

I just found myself playing with the stereotype that Pisces cry too much on here so I kind of caught myself doing it and decided to post something.

My father is deceased. He seldom showed a lot of emotion around me, but he would joke a lot with others and was known for his sense of humour. He had trouble showing affection. He had a brain hemorrhage and massive stroke when I was in university and lived for another 8+ years. Though he wasn't the same physically or mentally afterward I'm ever so grateful for the extra time I had with him. I was also able to get to know him in a different way, joking with him and laughing with him. The stroke also made it very easy for him to cry out of nowhere, even bawling, though he laughed quite easily too.

He was born in Europe and our family visited for the first time when I was 12. I remember when he first saw his sister and mother, they were bawling and he was bawling, for a while. It was the first time I had seen my dad cry. They even bawled when we went to visit my mother's place, knowing that we were going to come back again in a couple of weeks. He bawled with them when we left and when we returned again, and then when we departed. My dad's mother was a bawler along with his sister. (As an aside, my mom's mother didn't overdo things in that department, a few tears maybe.)

I just looked up my dad's chart. He's a Sag Sun and Cancer Moon, with a Scorpio Venus.

I've also resolved in my life that men often pack things away rather than facing them. I used to think this was strong but have come to realize that it takes more strength to talk about things and ask for help. Hiding things away is easier. Once you are comfortable talking about things in a mature manner, then that becomes a lot easier.

Remember, I'm not talking about people who are crybabies and complain to the world all the time. I think there are complainers across the zodiac, just like any sign can cheat.

Personally I think it takes a lot of strength to be vulnerable with a partner, to put yourself out there, and to cry if it's warranted. My favourite films are dramas that make me feel, whether it's sadness, joy, anger, etc... I can't watch some of my favourite films too often as they are too painful, but I still enjoy experiencing it, even it is despair and sadness, especially in empathizing with the characters.

I just wanted to see what others thought about men crying. Do you view it as weakness or strength?


I love that you are very Pisces in Sun Moon, Mercury and Venus too.

I'm a Capricorn but I also have Pisces Venus, and Cap Mars 😊
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Cool.

Makes for intensive expierences, real or otherwise. lol

I wouldn't have it any other way. smile
I think if you can feel your emotions and move on from them, it's a beautiful thing. I'm aware that some Pisces, maybe because they're men? Or maybe not..they go through the gamut of emotions and end up questioning their masculinity. It's not a bad thing to be vulnerable.
I only cried once in front of a woman, and it was while watching this. Imo she tried to act like she understood and accepted of it, but deep inside I still felt embarrassed and like I needed to hold back. I felt like I was fucking up. This vid personally still gets me every time though. Its like an ode to life. I'm 100% unable to watch this without tearing up, and not fully sure why.






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