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What if you know your date of birth, your birth place, but only that it's some time between 7 and 8pm. I don't get the same sun sign, depending on when it was. Anyone here with that experience? What did you do?

I think I'm more like a sagittarius than a scorpio, as far as I understand astrology, which is not much. So I thought maybe just make up a time when sagittarius is my sun sign and go with that? What would you do?
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Posted by PhoenixSag
As with all placements, whenever they are very close to other sign by being at last or first degree you will always have characteristics of that other sign too and they might be even more accented so I would go with my gut in your place


Ty for this! I guess, if I will feel both, and may even feel the other sign more, that means I could really be any of the two. Strangely, the only thing that is different is the sun sign and a couple of houses; even the AC is the same in both scenarios, so, since there are so few possibilities, I think I'll have to just learn more and check what they would all entail.

Ty! You've been of great help!
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As with all placements, whenever they are very close to other sign by being at last or first degree you will always have characteristics of that other sign too and they might be even more accented so I would go with my gut in your place
Ty for this! I guess, if I will feel both, and may even feel the other sign more, that means I could really be any of the two. Strangely, the only thing that is different is the sun sign and a couple of houses; even the AC is the same in both scenarios, so, since there are so few possibilities, I think I'll have to just learn more and check what they would all entail.
Ty! You've been of great help!
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Well, I believe Sun sign changes at different time in different years and different places on Earth. But if you have all the rest accurate and you have it change with that small difference in time then you really can't be certain which is it without knowing exact time for certain. But like I said even if you are a Scorpio in fact, you will be more like a Sag than a Scorpio because last degree in any placement is basically the next sign anyways. I have this confirmed by an astrologer because I was looking into someone's chart who has even 3 planets like that! Retrograde Venus at 0° Virgo, Mercury at 29° Virgo, Saturn at 0° Scorpio. And that astrologer told me then that last degrees of a sign can simply be looked at as next sign for most characteristics. Same applies in case of retrograde planets at first degrees of a sign...
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Ty! That was very useful knowledge!

Well, I do think I'm more a sagittarius, although I'm gonna have to study things more and be open to the possibility that I'm a scorpio. Hopefully, I can ask my mother, one day, but she's not available at the moment.

Very grateful!🙂
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Yeah, deep down inside I feel Scorpio but I do many times act and speak like a sag. I believe though that I don't have the real embodiment of sag energy. When I connect with sagittarius though, I understand and I feel they click with me.

But I don't feel like they really know who I truly am. When they know, that's when they start galloping away, haha.


Are you, then, in the same situation as me? You don't know your sun sign for sure? What's your mercury, or don't you know that either?
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Have you guys tried calling your birth hospital for your exact birth time? That's what I did. as someone who enjoys astrology and takes it seriously partially to aide my sense of identity, I can't imagine being in your shoes.


I done went that route before. They don't keep birth records after you've pass the age of 10 then they throws it in the garbage can.
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Have you guys tried calling your birth hospital for your exact birth time? That's what I did. as someone who enjoys astrology and takes it seriously partially to aide my sense of identity, I can't imagine being in your shoes.

I done went that route before. They don't keep birth records after you've pass the age of 10 then they throws it in the garbage can.
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damn. I'm lucky that the Mississippi hospital kept mine, except it was pointless to look because it was only off what my mom told me by 4 minutes.
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Have you guys tried calling your birth hospital for your exact birth time? That's what I did. as someone who enjoys astrology and takes it seriously partially to aide my sense of identity, I can't imagine being in your shoes.
I done went that route before. They don't keep birth records after you've pass the age of 10 then they throws it in the garbage can.

damn. I'm lucky that the Mississippi hospital kept mine, except it was pointless to look because it was only off what my mom told me by 4 minutes.
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I guess it's only Texas that throws away birth records
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There’s conflicting claims of an 1 hour window I was born within that can change both my rising and my moon… I relate to both signs in those positions almost equally.

Oh? How do you handle that? Do you have two (or more?) different charts, or do you go by one that you feel comfortable with? Which signs are they?
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For rising it’s between Scorpio & Sagittarius but I also have Jupiter & Pluto in Sagittarius in the 1st house which give similar vibes as both Sagittarius & Scorpio risings lol. My moon is between Leo and Virgo but I can be like textbook definition of Leo. Only thing that makes me wonder is where my OCD, overthinking, dealing with perfectionism and hypochondria comes from as I have no other Virgo placements but I don’t understand the Virgo moon as much anyway. I don’t think this issue affects transits as much as it might impact only a few degrees here and there.
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What's your sun sign? Since it's leo, could it be that what you feel may be a leo moon is really part of your sun sign (I'm thinking of sun signs as 'ego,' a little bit, hence my question)

The deciding factor should be this, though: Do you enjoy sorting paper clips in your spare time?😄

If you went to astro.com now and wanted to see your chart, would you make one (and in that case, which one), or two charts, or maybe more?
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Have you guys tried calling your birth hospital for your exact birth time? That's what I did. as someone who enjoys astrology and takes it seriously partially to aide my sense of identity, I can't imagine being in your shoes.

I done went that route before. They don't keep birth records after you've pass the age of 10 then they throws it in the garbage can.
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So sorry to hear that!
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What's your sun sign? Since it's leo, could it be that what you feel may be a leo moon is really part of your sun sign (I'm thinking of sun signs as 'ego,' a little bit, hence my question)

The deciding factor should be this, though: Do you enjoy sorting paper clips in your spare time?

If you went to astro.com now and wanted to see your chart, would you make one (and in that case, which one), or two charts, or maybe more?

Another issue is I was born under a full moon so whether it’s Leo or Virgo it would still be opposite my sun in regards to it being a tight orb. I also have an angry Leo mars so Leo energy is not foreign.

No I would not enjoy sorting paper clips in my spare time. But I do own way too many types of disinfecting wipes… that get reordered often.

I’ve made both charts and some of my planets shift to different houses that I relate to more than the initial birth time that I’m used to but I still can’t wrap my head around the different moon and rising (Virgo & Sag) it assigns me to. Feels weird. Definitely been suffering from confirmation bias this whole time.

To make matters more intriguing, the past couple of years I’ve been lightly interested in bazi. You’ve probably seen some users post their rise and fall charts predicting their good/not so good years. My marriage years are spot on for both birth times but the initial birth time has a depressing chart after my mid-30s whereas the other birth time has an amazing, pretty lucky chart overall. I’d obviously like to believe I’m the latter lol
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My whole family live on the sun sign cusp.
Ruined astrology for me. 👽
Really? When you say 'on the cusp' do you mean you have your TOB...but that your sun sign is on the cusp, or that you don't know your TOB and don't know your sun sign?
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Ijs they are born on the day of sign change. 18, 20, 22 & 23.
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Why is that bad?
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What's your sun sign? Since it's leo, could it be that what you feel may be a leo moon is really part of your sun sign (I'm thinking of sun signs as 'ego,' a little bit, hence my question)
The deciding factor should be this, though: Do you enjoy sorting paper clips in your spare time?
If you went to astro.com now and wanted to see your chart, would you make one (and in that case, which one), or two charts, or maybe more?

Another issue is I was born under a full moon so whether it’s Leo or Virgo it would still be opposite my sun in regards to it being a tight orb. I also have an angry Leo mars so Leo energy is not foreign.

No I would not enjoy sorting paper clips in my spare time. But I do own way too many types of disinfecting wipes… that get reordered often.

I’ve made both charts and some of my planets shift to different houses that I relate to more than the initial birth time that I’m used to but I still can’t wrap my head around the different moon and rising (Virgo & Sag) it assigns me to. Feels weird. Definitely been suffering from confirmation bias this whole time.

To make matters more intriguing, the past couple of years I’ve been lightly interested in bazi. You’ve probably seen some users post their rise and fall charts predicting their good/not so good years. My marriage years are spot on for both birth times but the initial birth time has a depressing chart after my mid-30s whereas the other birth time has an amazing, pretty lucky chart overall. I’d obviously like to believe I’m the latter lol
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That's tough! And crazy many coincidences. You have definitely given me some ideas, though, about how to try to descipher which my 'real' chart is. Thank you so much! And I really hope you're the latter too!🙂