Which zodiac sign or energy

This topic was created in the Astrology forum by Soul on Tuesday, June 11, 2024 and has 41 replies.
Can take the most trauma and devastation, yet still continue to survive and stay positive? Even when they've witnessed the absolute worst things possible in life?
I don’t know about a sign as a whole, but I’m just going off of personal experience and people I know in my life. One lady is a family friend and neighbor since I was a very young child. She survived a very abusive and alcoholic husband/father of her kids, his death at a young age, the death of both of her parents back to back, and having to raise her grandson because his mom (her daughter) got mixed up in drugs and an abusive boyfriend and completely neglected her child. Through all of that she has remained the most positive person I know and is so kind and generous! She would literally give you the shirt off her back. She’s a Pisces. Another is a girl who got bullied her whole life, went through abusive relationships and lost her father whom she was very close to when she was just a teenager. Yet she remains one of the most positive people I know and so uplifting. She’s a Cancer.
Posted by stardustsand
Sag
I could see what you said that because of Sagittarius's optimism. But I know a Sag that vents to me about her issues when I first met her, and a Sag that I know very well that still can't get over her traumas.
Devastation? Cancer. Cancer can't be broken, the worse it gets the stronger he gets. He just does not function when everything is great.


Trauma? Not sure.
Scorpio

Pluto is indestructible
I don't know. I think we need to stop being fascinated by trauma though. That alone doesn't necessarily make anyone stronger, it's the coping skills that does so technically, you could still be strong without trauma, yes? 🤷‍♂️
I really don't know about the signs but energy wise I would say someone with a positive spirit to stay strong and keep moving on. I mean I don't know.
nothing to do with sign.


it’s whoever understands that :


you’ll get over most trauma quick when you realize that the people who traumatized you aren’t lying in their beds at night tossing and turning, feeling horrible about what they did to you or anybody else.

if they were the type capable of feeling any remorse, they wouldn’t have done it in the first place.


in other words, they’re not losing any sleep over what they did so why should you lose any sleep over them? they’re not suffering so why should you suffer?



also


whoever is hungry enough can withstand almost anything. when you’re hungry enough to reach a goal/destination or hungry enough to make something happen, even trauma becomes a nuisance. a hindrance to where you wanna go.

so you drop it or compartmentalize it (put it aside for the time being) and tackle the task in front of you/do what needs to be done.
Scorpio. Re birth is the dominate nature with Plutonian energy. It’s not about the trauma it’s the resilience to continue finding joy and purpose after it all. To take those experiences and create something from it.



That’s Scorpio at its highest level.


Scorpion

Eagle

Phoenix


Sun/pluto hard aspects.
Posted by Jade_Alexander
Scorpio. Re birth is the dominate nature with Plutonian energy. It’s not about the trauma it’s the resilience to continue finding joy and purpose after it all. To take those experiences and create something from it.

That’s Scorpio at its highest level.
Scorpion
Eagle
Phoenix

💯 all the way 👍
From people I’ve observed:


Aries

Aquarius

Scorpio (not so positive but definitely resilient and keeping it real)

Leo


I also think almost anyone can survive anything. People don’t even realize until they are in that situation. Human spirit is unbelievable!
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Posted by Jade_Alexander
Scorpio. Re birth is the dominate nature with Plutonian energy. It’s not about the trauma it’s the resilience to continue finding joy and purpose after it all. To take those experiences and create something from it.

That’s Scorpio at its highest level.
Scorpion
Eagle
Phoenix






💯 all the way 👍
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It’s why I’ve lived a hundred lives and still endure.
Everyone.

It's how you relate to your trauma.

What you take from it.

Does it motivate you or twist you?
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Posted by MyStarsShine
Posted by Jade_Alexander
Scorpio. Re birth is the dominate nature with Plutonian energy. It’s not about the trauma it’s the resilience to continue finding joy and purpose after it all. To take those experiences and create something from it.

That’s Scorpio at its highest level.
Scorpion
Eagle
Phoenix






💯 all the way 👍





It’s why I’ve lived a hundred lives and still endure.
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And I too

Five planets in Scorpio in 7th and 8th

depending on which system is used.


Are you Scorpio / Pluto dom Jade?
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Posted by Jade_Alexander
Posted by MyStarsShine
Posted by Jade_Alexander
Scorpio. Re birth is the dominate nature with Plutonian energy. It’s not about the trauma it’s the resilience to continue finding joy and purpose after it all. To take those experiences and create something from it.

That’s Scorpio at its highest level.
Scorpion
Eagle
Phoenix








💯 all the way 👍





It’s why I’ve lived a hundred lives and still endure.





And I too

Five planets in Scorpio in 7th and 8th

depending on which system is used.



Are you Scorpio / Pluto dom Jade?
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Yeah, more Scorpio in me than anything else
Aries moon, Sag moon and Aqua moon.

Rock solid!
Posted by aquarius09
Aries moon, Sag moon and Aqua moon.
Rock solid!
Fire signs can lose their fire and become dull!


That’s a good question. I be asking the same..


It’s a hard question too. I think it depends on the situation. Who stays positive?


I believe it’ll be easy to say fire signs and air signs but I don't think staying positive is about appearing still happy or actually not caring and continuing to prance through life. To me, that’s somebody that never gave a fuck to begin with or holds minimum responsibility and appreciation towards things.


I think staying positive is when you accept what happened even if you are showing resentment but you imagine yourself looking back on this soon when you are in a better place. It’s the person that lowkey gets fueled and is probably somewhat glad they are suffering and having problems. This person might want a reason to “go bad” or stop caring about shit.. This person might even want a reason to “go harder” and “prove” something. It’s a person that wants a story to tell someday even if it really fucks with them, they know character is being built.


I think that would be any sign..

But I think Leos want that story. for them it’s about glory.


Cancer

Wants to suffer and feel the feels, might even lash out but it’s all because they want to “boss up” and never let something like that ever happen again.


Taurus

Ion think shit really phase them for a long time…



Scorpio

They look at they life like some kinna drama film or action movie when they go through shit and could even tell their story to whoever as they go through more and more


Capricorn

Wants a story too, might even create one for whatever gain


Aquarius

They hard to crack in general sometimes if they attached to the situation or not
Posted by aquarius09
Aries moon, Sag moon and Aqua moon.
Rock solid!
I know three Aries moon people who don’t handle devastation well at all

They’re very much emotionally immature
Posted by MyStarsShine
Posted by aquarius09
Aries moon, Sag moon and Aqua moon.
Rock solid!





I know three Aries moon people who don’t handle devastation well at all

They’re very much emotionally immature
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Must be the weak mars placement not handling a powerhouse like Aries moon.
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Posted by aquarius09
Aries moon, Sag moon and Aqua moon.
Rock solid!





Fire signs can lose their fire and become dull!



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But they are still resilient because they bounce back quickly and take rejection as motivation instead of an excuse to mope.
Posted by Emhendo
That’s a good question. I be asking the same..
It’s a hard question too. I think it depends on the situation. Who stays positive?
I believe it’ll be easy to say fire signs and air signs but I don't think staying positive is about appearing still happy or actually not caring and continuing to prance through life. To me, that’s somebody that never gave a fuck to begin with or holds minimum responsibility and appreciation towards things.
I think staying positive is when you accept what happened even if you are showing resentment but you imagine yourself looking back on this soon when you are in a better place. It’s the person that lowkey gets fueled and is probably somewhat glad they are suffering and having problems. This person might want a reason to “go bad” or stop caring about shit.. This person might even want a reason to “go harder” and “prove” something. It’s a person that wants a story to tell someday even if it really fucks with them, they know character is being built.
true. feeling nothing in the first place is not real strength. that’s just someone with dissociative disorder. void of empathy. i’ve seen people brag about being “a savage with no emotions” but that’s hardly a flex. that’s actually an unfortunate thing and these people can possibly even be a danger to society if they go on to hurt others or choose to commit crimes.


strength is feeling the emotions thoroughly, grieving over whatever loss, accepting what happened, and moving on.


it’s saying to yourself,


“ok it happened. i have grieved. now what? what’s the next step?”


and obviously if you were a victim of something very serious like rape, physical abuse etc, you will grieve many times. but the same process still applies : how are you going to take back your power?

Posted by serenidad
Posted by Emhendo
That’s a good question. I be asking the same..
It’s a hard question too. I think it depends on the situation. Who stays positive?
I believe it’ll be easy to say fire signs and air signs but I don't think staying positive is about appearing still happy or actually not caring and continuing to prance through life. To me, that’s somebody that never gave a fuck to begin with or holds minimum responsibility and appreciation towards things.
I think staying positive is when you accept what happened even if you are showing resentment but you imagine yourself looking back on this soon when you are in a better place. It’s the person that lowkey gets fueled and is probably somewhat glad they are suffering and having problems. This person might want a reason to “go bad” or stop caring about shit.. This person might even want a reason to “go harder” and “prove” something. It’s a person that wants a story to tell someday even if it really fucks with them, they know character is being built.


true. feeling nothing in the first place is not real strength. that’s just someone with dissociative disorder. void of empathy. i’ve seen people brag about being “a savage with no emotions” but that’s hardly a flex. that’s actually an unfortunate thing and these people can possibly even be a danger to society if they go on to hurt others or choose to commit crimes.
strength is feeling the emotions thoroughly, grieving over whatever loss, accepting what happened, and moving on.
it’s saying to yourself,
“ok it happened. i have grieved. now what? what’s the next step?”
and obviously if you were a victim of something very serious like rape, physical abuse etc, you will grieve many times. but the same process still applies : how are you going to take back your power?

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As fucked up as it is to admit, sometimes pretending like it never happened and forcing yourself to move forward is the only option. Like getting help is sometimes a good option, but also like an onion, can bring more layers to the situation that don't need to exist. Simply moving forward is the best option in some cases.


It becomes hard for me, because naturally I put myself into the life of every single person around me. So when tragedy hit, I spend less time in my own thoughts and more time in the minds of others. Like I'll be real, I feel nothing on a personal level. But when I put myself into the lives of others, that's when it gets bad.
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Posted by aquarius09
Aries moon, Sag moon and Aqua moon.
Rock solid!





I know three Aries moon people who don’t handle devastation well at all


They’re very much emotionally immature





Must be the weak mars placement not handling a powerhouse like Aries moon.
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Two of them have Aqua mars

The other has Sagittarius mars.
Posted by xyzabc
I don’t know about a sign as a whole, but I’m just going off of personal experience and people I know in my life. One lady is a family friend and neighbor since I was a very young child. She survived a very abusive and alcoholic husband/father of her kids, his death at a young age, the death of both of her parents back to back, and having to raise her grandson because his mom (her daughter) got mixed up in drugs and an abusive boyfriend and completely neglected her child. Through all of that she has remained the most positive person I know and is so kind and generous! She would literally give you the shirt off her back. She’s a Pisces. Another is a girl who got bullied her whole life, went through abusive relationships and lost her father whom she was very close to when she was just a teenager. Yet she remains one of the most positive people I know and so uplifting. She’s a Cancer.
I honestly don't think that's a big deal, especially losing the parents, I mean wtf do you think happens? Your parents are suppose to go before you. That's not a tragedy. Ppl need to stop over-traumatizing normal stuff. 🙄


Come back when you have a story of someone losing a child or both their children or something.. That's a trauma and tragedy.
I think it's too complicated and dynamic to be able to point to single out any signs. You could take 100 different people who've been through shit and all their different story's will haveany similarities but far more unique factors that have gone into where they are now.



Any sign can be resilient in their own way. Some signs would become hardened and grizzled though,

(capricorn/scorpio) they would turned into ambitious fighters thinking the world is a harsh darvinian place.


Posted by Parkourler

Any sign can be resilient in their own way. Some signs would become hardened and grizzled though,
(capricorn/scorpio) they would turned into ambitious fighters thinking the world is a harsh darvinian place.

That description made me 😅 ~ I’ve Scorpio sun / Dom with Cap MC

What’s darvinian?
Posted by Soul
Posted by serenidad
Posted by Emhendo
That’s a good question. I be asking the same..
It’s a hard question too. I think it depends on the situation. Who stays positive?
I believe it’ll be easy to say fire signs and air signs but I don't think staying positive is about appearing still happy or actually not caring and continuing to prance through life. To me, that’s somebody that never gave a fuck to begin with or holds minimum responsibility and appreciation towards things.
I think staying positive is when you accept what happened even if you are showing resentment but you imagine yourself looking back on this soon when you are in a better place. It’s the person that lowkey gets fueled and is probably somewhat glad they are suffering and having problems. This person might want a reason to “go bad” or stop caring about shit.. This person might even want a reason to “go harder” and “prove” something. It’s a person that wants a story to tell someday even if it really fucks with them, they know character is being built.


true. feeling nothing in the first place is not real strength. that’s just someone with dissociative disorder. void of empathy. i’ve seen people brag about being “a savage with no emotions” but that’s hardly a flex. that’s actually an unfortunate thing and these people can possibly even be a danger to society if they go on to hurt others or choose to commit crimes.
strength is feeling the emotions thoroughly, grieving over whatever loss, accepting what happened, and moving on.
it’s saying to yourself,
“ok it happened. i have grieved. now what? what’s the next step?”
and obviously if you were a victim of something very serious like rape, physical abuse etc, you will grieve many times. but the same process still applies : how are you going to take back your power?
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As fucked up as it is to admit, sometimes pretending like it never happened and forcing yourself to move forward is the only option. Like getting help is sometimes a good option, but also like an onion, can bring more layers to the situation that don't need to exist. Simply moving forward is the best option in some cases.
It becomes hard for me, because naturally I put myself into the life of every single person around me. So when tragedy hit, I spend less time in my own thoughts and more time in the minds of others. Like I'll be real, I feel nothing on a personal level. But when I put myself into the lives of others, that's when it gets bad.
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Very empathic ❤️
Posted by Soul
Posted by serenidad
Posted by Emhendo
That’s a good question. I be asking the same..
It’s a hard question too. I think it depends on the situation. Who stays positive?
I believe it’ll be easy to say fire signs and air signs but I don't think staying positive is about appearing still happy or actually not caring and continuing to prance through life. To me, that’s somebody that never gave a fuck to begin with or holds minimum responsibility and appreciation towards things.
I think staying positive is when you accept what happened even if you are showing resentment but you imagine yourself looking back on this soon when you are in a better place. It’s the person that lowkey gets fueled and is probably somewhat glad they are suffering and having problems. This person might want a reason to “go bad” or stop caring about shit.. This person might even want a reason to “go harder” and “prove” something. It’s a person that wants a story to tell someday even if it really fucks with them, they know character is being built.


true. feeling nothing in the first place is not real strength. that’s just someone with dissociative disorder. void of empathy. i’ve seen people brag about being “a savage with no emotions” but that’s hardly a flex. that’s actually an unfortunate thing and these people can possibly even be a danger to society if they go on to hurt others or choose to commit crimes.
strength is feeling the emotions thoroughly, grieving over whatever loss, accepting what happened, and moving on.
it’s saying to yourself,
“ok it happened. i have grieved. now what? what’s the next step?”
and obviously if you were a victim of something very serious like rape, physical abuse etc, you will grieve many times. but the same process still applies : how are you going to take back your power?
click to expand

As fucked up as it is to admit, sometimes pretending like it never happened and forcing yourself to move forward is the only option. Like getting help is sometimes a good option, but also like an onion, can bring more layers to the situation that don't need to exist. Simply moving forward is the best option in some cases.
It becomes hard for me, because naturally I put myself into the life of every single person around me. So when tragedy hit, I spend less time in my own thoughts and more time in the minds of others. Like I'll be real, I feel nothing on a personal level. But when I put myself into the lives of others, that's when it gets bad.
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i mean, isn’t it somewhat normal to be affected by tragedies your loved ones are being affected by? it just means you care.


but i feel like when tragedies hit, we gotta be like an anchor. for instance, if everyone else around you is panicking and losing their minds, we should aim to remain calm and look for solutions instead of drowning with the rest of them. be an anchor. maybe you already are.

in that case, just keep on fighting. don’t stop until you all get out of the dark ass tunnel (metaphorically speaking). when my family was going through a lot of stress due to my mom’s alcoholism, i just focused on staying an anchor. was it hard ? yeah but i had no other choice.



as far as “getting help” with a trauma,


personally, i’ve been to a therapy session 3 times just to see what the “hype” was all about when i was younger and frankly got nothing out of it lol in fact the therapist dude pissed me off a little bit lol 😅 like, he gave me some cookie-cutter advice i could’ve just gotten from google and shit lol


the questions he asked me were questions i had come across many times in self-help books before and had already pondered.


i dunno, maybe therapy works for people who don’t normally read self help books/google stuff online regarding self help or people who don’t self-reflect that often when they’re by themselves? :/


he talked real slow too (therapist). took damn near 5 business days to finish a single thought 😂 he was probably like choosing his words carefully in order to not offend but my aries ass couldn’t sit through that 😂 it’s like just say wtf you gotta say without beating around the bush 😂


the way i see it is, if you know yourself well enough, you’ll know what to do in order to get yourself out of a dark place. without a therapist.
and lay off the booze. it’s probably contributing to your depression.
Posted by serenidad
and lay off the booze. it’s probably contributing to your depression.
Sure is

Alcohol is such a depressant
Posted by MyStarsShine
Posted by aquarius09
Posted by MyStarsShine
Posted by aquarius09
Aries moon, Sag moon and Aqua moon.
Rock solid!







I know three Aries moon people who don’t handle devastation well at all


They’re very much emotionally immature





Must be the weak mars placement not handling a powerhouse like Aries moon.





Two of them have Aqua mars

The other has Sagittarius mars.
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Aqua mars I can understand but Sag Mars with fire moon not being resilient is shocking!!!
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Posted by serenidad
and lay off the booze. it’s probably contributing to your depression.





Sure is

Alcohol is such a depressant
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yeah and moreover, you can’t truly be in control of your life as long as you keep letting a substance alter your state of mind and mess with your ability to think straight.


you’re giving your power away to something outside of yourself.


taking back full control of your life is the first step if you wanna feel capable and strong and just overall positive about yourself
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Posted by MyStarsShine
Posted by serenidad
and lay off the booze. it’s probably contributing to your depression.





Sure is


Alcohol is such a depressant





yeah and moreover, you can’t truly be in control of your life as long as you keep letting a substance alter your state of mind and mess with your ability to think straight.



you’re giving your power away to something outside of yourself.



taking back full control of your life is the first step if you wanna feel capable and strong and just overall positive about yourself
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Amen 🙏 to this
Posted by MyStarsShine
Posted by Parkourler

Any sign can be resilient in their own way. Some signs would become hardened and grizzled though,
(capricorn/scorpio) they would turned into ambitious fighters thinking the world is a harsh darvinian place.






That description made me 😅 ~ I’ve Scorpio sun / Dom with Cap MC

What’s darvinian?
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Darvinian as in charles darvin, you think the world is all about surviving of the fittest, its killed or be killed.

Posted by Parkourler
Posted by MyStarsShine
Posted by Parkourler

Any sign can be resilient in their own way. Some signs would become hardened and grizzled though,
(capricorn/scorpio) they would turned into ambitious fighters thinking the world is a harsh darvinian place.






That description made me 😅 ~ I’ve Scorpio sun / Dom with Cap MC


What’s darvinian?





Darvinian as in charles darvin, you think the world is all about surviving of the fittest, its killed or be killed.


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Oh Darwin and the theory of evolution
ALL the fixed signs
Posted by MyStarsShine
Posted by Parkourler
Posted by MyStarsShine
Posted by Parkourler

Any sign can be resilient in their own way. Some signs would become hardened and grizzled though,
(capricorn/scorpio) they would turned into ambitious fighters thinking the world is a harsh darvinian place.








That description made me 😅 ~ I’ve Scorpio sun / Dom with Cap MC


What’s darvinian?





Darvinian as in charles darvin, you think the world is all about surviving of the fittest, its killed or be killed.







Oh Darwin and the theory of evolution
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oh my mistake i wrote darvinian not darwinian.
Aspects matter.


If you’re a Pluto in the 1st House, Sun in the 8th House, Moon in the 8th House, Moon in the 12th House…similar to these things, I’d say you’re a survivor.


In these positions, you’re almost destined to go through and overcome tribulations in your life.

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