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i don't often stray from the scorpio board so, be gentle 🙂

i have met a wonderful aqua man. we've been out a few times now and we're getting on great. there's not a huge amount of sexual chemistry as we're both cautious about relationships and so we're taking the time to get to know each other. the thing is that there is a huge social gulf between us. he's from a wealthy, influential family and i'm from nowhere. i work hard as i'm a single parent and although i do comparatively very well, it's not in his league.

he's not in the slightest bit judgemental about my status though, it's more coming from me kinda like inverted snobbery.

the thing is though that we get on so well and have similar passions. he is a businessman and i am a business analyst and writer and i'm doing a feature in a magazine about some of his innovative products (cos we both work specifically in the ecology market). each time we meet, we both talk alot and it is a completely natural dialogue but it's nearly always about worky stuff. i don't mind that cos i am a workaholic it's my favourite subject but i wonder if that, combined with our reticence about getting fucked over again will eventually lead to us being just business associates and nothing more.

we're both the same age and it's really important to me that i meet someone who likes me for who i am and vice versa. he keeps asking me to attend things that i feel uncomfortable going to...such as high class restaurants and ski-ing trips and although he doesn't mind at all if i decline...i wonder how important it will be for him that i fit in with his world.

so i guess my question is how important is status to an aquarian. do you feel that your partner should be of the same 'class' as you (for want of a better word). would a meeting of minds overcome this kind of social gulf?

i'll post our charts in the next post.
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yay she's here! she's here! 😄 and she is dating one of us...😄
you already have fans here so welcome! welcome!

okay seriously. we couldnt care less about status. we basically care about what and whom we like, and how they treat us. but can you go to some of the places that he likes to go too. aquarius guys like to show off their hot lady also he wants you to experience the things he likes to do. he obviously think you will be comfortable there, because he is inviting you. having the same sun and moon as he does 🙂, it does hurt or disappoint him that you dont want to come with him 😢.

and your a business analyst and writer...that sounds prestigious, i dont know what your talking about. i would be impressed.

and if you dont believe me about the status thing just keep in the back of your mind Paris Hilton 🙂
hope i helped a little.

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yeah, you helped a whole lot!! feels odd being 'recognised' on the aqua board but i love you guys. the clever witty ones of the zodiac. a little unhinged at tims but i kinda like that 😛

he doesn't seem disappointed so far cos it's early days. if i persisted in declining it would become an issue no doubt. he's got me a little obsessed with a business project he was talking to me about yesterday...distressed sale of the luxury hotel spa that his mother happens to be a long term 'guest' at. (she's lived there since it opened in 1973 to be precise). she was told it's closing at the end of the month and he was telling me about it and it just so happens that this is my area of expertise...putting together rescue packages in this situation and keeping businesses running while it's getting sorted. i haven't done anything on this scale for a few years but it's a top chance to make some proper money for myself and him too. it was sweet when he said that it would be great if we could put something together between us and my proposal harnesses my skills with his contacts. perfect. at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter where it leads to. it'll just be good to have him in my life and i hope, vice versa. 🙂
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No we dont care about status, we only care about ppl who make us feel comfortable, ppl who laugh with us (sometimes at us)- all in all, a person who knows how to have fun. Forget about the difference in your social standing, he chose u and didnt run just because u werent in his level socially- thats a thumbs up. Enjoy the opportunities that this experience will open up for u, eg. learning to ski, etc, and have fun. We dont like wet blankents, just be yourself and learn about his world. All the best to u, girl.
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i do not belong to Aquarius world and Aquarius forum,but as i am married to a man who is Aqua sun, moon,Venus and Mars in Aqua--(no one can get more Aqua than this ) one thing i can assure you about that social status do not bother them, not at all. neither does your dressing style ,even if it does not match or relate to the society he moves in. when i got married i was going through the Harry Potter fixation phase ( i am still in it btw) and wore all those ridiculous robes and cloaks and he never once minded. Even when he took me to Montpellier, France to meet his mother i kept on wearing such dresses and he was alright with it, ( though others were on obviously )
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Its in the little things u do that wins an aqua over. For an example, i fell for my husband because he taught me how to whistle for a taxi instead of flapping my arms about and yelling for it (new experience). He is an aries, so he also taught me how to throw a mean punch, how to shoulder my way out when i need to be elsewhere quick, etc. U cant leave out violence with those rams, lol. Teach him something new and u'll have a life long friend.
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Its in the little things u do that wins an aqua over. For an example, i fell for my husband because he taught me how to whistle for a taxi instead of flapping my arms about and yelling for it (new experience). He is an aries, so he also taught me how to throw a mean punch, how to shoulder my way out when i need to be elsewhere quick, etc. U cant leave out violence with those rams, lol. Teach him something new and u'll have a life long friend.



ahah!!! i was married to an aries too so i know about the violence although in my case, it wasn't something to lol about at the time!!

as for the aqua, i did meet him for lunch at a burger king in a town near me which is pretty low rent, certainly by his standards. i wasn't bothered though cos i just wanted to meet him somewhere i felt comfortable at and he said he occasionally treated himself to a BK, so i thought why not! we had a great time. he tried to pay the ?
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Lol @ harry potter phase, i wear cloaks too, at 28 they must be thinking im harry's mom. I love ppl with an off side sense of dress, its stylish imho. Rock those robes shah!


i still wear them unabashedly and he still does not mind,
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LOL @ you two!! you can get away with harry potter fashion in your 20s...at my age, people would be expecting me to be on an actual working broomstick, lol.
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i read in some other post of yours where you mentioned the difference of dressing style , i might be taking thing out of context but actually this thing does not bother aquarius men. when my MIL and her sister were fuming, very discreetly and in aver genteel way, about my mint green shabby robe, he was perfectly unconcerned about it , now if i look back and think he was even amused by my childish resolution not to change into a little black dress and her mother's disappointment in his only son's marriage to a walking fashion disaster.
they, aqua men, do have their plus points
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i've come up with a cracking plan to save the hotel!! we were gonna see eachother today but he wasn't able to make it which was ok cos i'm not feeling so great but i spent the afternoon putting together a proposal that i think will convince the bank to grant a stay of execution and keep the hotel running. so i'm meeting him tomorrow and he's gonna take me to meet the current owners.

and then, when we've saved the hotel...i'm gonna write a book about it and there'll be a movie and i will be played by megan fox cos obviously we were separated at birth and he will be played by clive owen who looks nothing like him, lol.
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im at a lost for words. that is so great. 🙂
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So much for that gem eh.



oh yeah, the aqua blew him out of the water pretty quick. gems are scarey. i like 'em but they're kinda wearing, like exciteable puppies...not so cute after a few hours of them if you know what i mean.
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well the aqua men win again. wonder where DK, aqualad and the others are to bask in the glory.
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... he keeps asking me to attend things that i feel uncomfortable going to...








Although you liked to think that status doesn't matter, and liked to hope it to be true enough to even post about it here to get people to agree with you .... his actions speak louder than your words of hope.

"he keeps asking" isn't an isolated incident, now is it? He keeps asking you to do soemthing you don't want to do. And for him to (appear) to be accepting of your declines gracefully, it doesn't change the fact that he continues to ask you.

In other words, he's badgering you. Perhaps, it's so nicey nice that you can't recognize the motive of it ... but, his actions are proving that ..... "he keeps asking"

It's sounds sort of like a nice manipulation, so soft and easy ... finesse ... but, still the same result = attempting to convince you to do something you dont' want to do.


That's a red flag ...... there is somethign else here also ...
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... a business project he was talking to me about yesterday...distressed sale of the luxury hotel spa that his mother happens to be a long term 'guest' at. (she's lived there since it opened in 1973 to be precise). she was told it's closing at the end of the month and he was telling me about it and it just so happens that this is my area of expertise...putting together rescue packages in this situation and keeping businesses running while it's getting sorted.

it was sweet when he said that it would be great if we could put something together between us and my proposal harnesses my skills with his contacts. perfect. at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter where it leads to. it'll just be good to have him in my life and i hope, vice versa.







Why lie to yourself? Of course at the end of the day it's going to matter where it leads. By virtue of you being female and interested in this man, you WANT it to lead somewhere specific.

And in him saying that wasn't to be sweet ... he's wanting to use your skills for his benefit.

don't be fooled ... his motive is screaming out loud.


mark my words !!! A man who is interested in a woman, doesn't gently guide her to do things HE wants ... on the contrary, a man who wants to win the woman does things for her benefit while it's a sacrifice to him.


You're being fooled .... he doesn't want you, his wants what is beneficial to him
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... a business project he was talking to me about yesterday...distressed sale of the luxury hotel spa that his mother happens to be a long term 'guest' at. (she's lived there since it opened in 1973 to be precise). she was told it's closing at the end of the month and he was telling me about it and it just so happens that this is my area of expertise...putting together rescue packages in this situation and keeping businesses running while it's getting sorted.

it was sweet when he said that it would be great if we could put something together between us and my proposal harnesses my skills with his contacts. perfect. at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter where it leads to. it'll just be good to have him in my life and i hope, vice versa.







Why lie to yourself? Of course at the end of the day it's going to matter where it leads. By virtue of you being female and interested in this man, you WANT it to lead somewhere specific.

And in him saying that wasn't to be sweet ... he's wanting to use your skills for his benefit.

don't be fooled ... his motive is screaming out loud.


mark my words !!! A man who is interested in a woman, doesn't gently guide her to do things HE wants ... on the contrary, a man who wants to win the woman does things for her benefit while it's a sacrifice to him.


You're being fooled .... he doesn't want you, his wants what is beneficial to him
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you've highlighted all my doubts here P. the only thing is that i'm not lying to myself about wanting it to lead somewhere specific cos as i mentioned before, there's absolutely zero chemistry between me and him which is why i'm not overly involved with him. i don't think chemistry is the be all and end all in a relationship any more anyway and so i want to be friends with him first and then take it from there, but slowly.

to be fair to him though, we have not been on one date at a venue of his choosing and so if he's going on about it, it's probably for that reason.

i think you have a point with him being persistant on doing things he wants to do or that are beneficial to him. i imagine he has rarely not indulged himself as it's the perk of the privileged and he's constantly surrounded by sycophants. i'm just trying to remain unphased by this
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i totally disagree with what she said. if you dont want to do those things then he will do them himself. he is only trying to share experiences with you that he likes. and he keeps asking you because he figures there will be something that you will say yes too, and you both can enjoy that.

when did it become wrong for two people starting a relationship to share experiences together. that is how we aquas show you that we are interested in you and want to be in your company by sharing our lives and experiences with you.

i asked my fiance to do a lot of things i liked to do. we've gone hiking, ski diving, and other things. but he is not to keen on swimming, scuba diving, etc.

and he was being accommodating to you, he met you where you wanted to meet. lol@ trying to spend big bills at Burger King.

if you dont like doing anything that he wants to do or share experiences that he/you like, then that means to aquas that we have nothing in common and we will put you in the friend only zone.
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yeah, you're right and i do keep it real with him. he's not seemed bothered by me declining some of his invites cos they've all been for genuine reasons and also, he's not been able to make some occasions too so it's six of one, half a dozen of the other.

i'm meeting him later on today. he wants to show me his 'humble abode' which is the presidential suite of a 5 star hotel on the posh part of the coast. he joked about how we could play ps3 together and i said it sounded like a great idea and so we'll give that a blast (never mind how ridiculous it is for 40 somethings to be playing videogames)!

i'm definitely in the friend zone cos that's where i want to be while we get to know eachother and so far, so good 🙂
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Ro: "this aqua i'm seeing keeps making reference to me dressing in a more feminine way"




You're being controlled, albeit, subtly .... very much present, regardless.

It's one thing mention, but, said he keeps making reference. "keeps" means is often enough for it to have you re-evaluate yourself and your style .


Why are you allowing this, Ro?

Where did that woman who was confident and sure of herself go?
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well to be perfectly honest P, we are hardly even seeing eachother due to both being too busy. i've not seen him at all since the dressing more feminine comment and in his defence, he's only mentioned it one more time apart from that..so he's not keeping on with it.

you're right though, it has got me questioning my style but then i also have PMS and i question my very existence at these times, lol. i'm not sure if it is due to his control that i feel this way...rather that i feel conscious of not fitting into his world, which is not from anything he's said at all..it's my standard fear since childhood. he actually said he doesn't judge a book by its cover and i believe he meant it.

it's not so much the class difference but the wealth difference i feel aware of. he suggested coming to me today and i had to get out of that quick as my apartment is really modest whereas he just jokingly calls his presidential suite 'modest'. i'm not ashamed cos i'm proud of what i have managed to achieve, i dunno though...i can't explain it. perhaps i'm still sussing this man out.
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nah seraph. he's wealthy. born into money and has gone on to make much more. his family are very well known in europe.

i guess this is kind of coming from me with him acting as a trigger. it all reminds me of my first proper job which was with merrill lynch. i was on a graduate program and my peers were mostly from wealthy families who owned plantations and had coutts bank accounts and trust funds. they could wing their associateship whereas i had to work my butt off even harder, often carrying them in the process.

because i was on my way up the ladder and in my 20s, it was important that i fitted in and unfortunately, the people i had to fit in were just like this aqua guy. i knew then, just as i know now that the only real difference between me and the others was they way they looked and the life style they led, neither of which being things that appealed to me and they still don't.

i don't like being in situations where i feel i'm being scrutinized and i don't like being made to feel embarrassed about who i am and where i've come from. back then, i jumped through hoops to fit in and almost lost myself in the process. i also wasted most of the money i earned on trying to sustain a life style that didn't even fit me. i don't think i need to do this at my stage in life now cos i feel i've earned the right to be myself.

it's not anything they say...these people have a natural ability to make you feel a little 'low rent'.

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seraph: i've never been impressed by money or the trappings either. the main reason being is that i know plenty of people who like me, were earning ridiculous money when we worked in banking and i've seen how it comes and goes and how alll the stuff you buy when you have the money, gets sold for a loss when it's gone.

my personal 'wealth' guage is how full my fridge is. i just have a theory that alot of these people you see driving around in flash cars and living in huge villas are up to their eyeballs in leases and mortgages and if you look inside their fridge, i bet it's empty!

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I can't believe what a trailblazer I am with the Dodge though!🙂



it is a sweet ride, i saw one in my friends neighborhood. it was black with chrome accents omg..so sweeeet and it made that roaring engine sound...woot woot! vroom vroom!

i had a 1967 camaro in high school. 🙂




but it looked like this at first, i bought it at a junk yard for $ 300.



these arent the actual pics of batman (that is his name). i dont have any.
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i just wanna kind of pull the thread back to the subject matter and so a good way to link back is with me telling you about the aqua's car. i actually sat in it last night. it's a mercedes 'R' class which i'd never heard of. it cost more than my apartment and is probably bigger too cos it's the long wheel base one. i actually prefer it to my apartment cos it's like a fucking space age lounge inside that thing. and it's got this thing that raises it when you're off road so you don't sump it when you're driving rally style which is actually horrifyingly terrifying when you're on mountain roads!! my hair was literally standing on end when i got out of it!

he took me to a friend who lives near me cos he said he had a farm with a few horses and i could go and ride there with my daughter. his friend was captain of a polo team and lived in this awesome ranch style mansion jobbie and his 'few horses' were actually about 30 polo ponies worth a few hundred grand each.

it was a good evening actually. his friend was a nice guy. these are the kind of rich people that are actually alright although they still say things that are alien to me....like the polo guy was talking about an employee and how much he has to pay the spanish state when he ONLY pays him ?
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i just wanna kind of pull the thread back to the subject matter and so a good way to link back is with me telling you about the aqua's car. i actually sat in it last night. it's a mercedes 'R' class which i'd never heard of. it cost more than my apartment and is probably bigger too cos it's the long wheel base one. i actually prefer it to my apartment cos it's like a fucking space age lounge inside that thing. and it's got this thing that raises it when you're off road so you don't sump it when you're driving rally style which is actually horrifyingly terrifying when you're on mountain roads!! my hair was literally standing on end when i got out of it!

he took me to a friend who lives near me cos he said he had a farm with a few horses and i could go and ride there with my daughter. his friend was captain of a polo team and lived in this awesome ranch style mansion jobbie and his 'few horses' were actually about 30 polo ponies worth a few hundred grand each.

it was a good evening actually. his friend was a nice guy. these are the kind of rich people that are actually alright although they still say things that are alien to me....like the polo guy was talking about an employee and how much he has to pay the spanish state when he ONLY pays him ?
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trust me, in spain where we currently have 30% unemployment, 3 grand is the equivalent of 3 persons' average wage. i'm fortunate to be earning more but i know i'm fortunate for that cos i'm more in touch with the butt end of the social classes than the aqua and his chums.

the car is brand spanking new. it's a version of the mercedes stationwagon S or something but it's an R? i'm a car addict and i was totally confused before i saw it. it's on swiss plates so i don't think it's even available in spain cos i've not seen another. it's like a massive SUV with 7 sofas, i mean seats and is 4 x 4. i think it's quite a new merc model cos i'm not the only one who's not heard of it before and i know my mercedeseseseses.

his father died in 1975 and the aqua got his e-type jaguar which has only been driven once a year since it was bought in the 60s and has less than 5000 miles on the clock. he has the engine steam cleaned every year too and it is absolutely pristine...like from the showroom. i've only seen pictures so far as he keeps it in geneva but wow...i can't wait to take that out for a spin!!! never even sat in an e-type. they are so gorgeous and stylish even now.
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trust me, in spain where we currently have 30% unemployment, 3 grand is the equivalent of 3 persons' average wage. i'm fortunate to be earning more but i know i'm fortunate for that cos i'm more in touch with the butt end of the social classes than the aqua and his chums.

the car is brand spanking new. it's a version of the mercedes stationwagon S or something but it's an R? i'm a car addict and i was totally confused before i saw it. it's on swiss plates so i don't think it's even available in spain cos i've not seen another. it's like a massive SUV with 7 sofas, i mean seats and is 4 x 4. i think it's quite a new merc model cos i'm not the only one who's not heard of it before and i know my mercedeseseseses.

his father died in 1975 and the aqua got his e-type jaguar which has only been driven once a year since it was bought in the 60s and has less than 5000 miles on the clock. he has the engine steam cleaned every year too and it is absolutely pristine...like from the showroom. i've only seen pictures so far as he keeps it in geneva but wow...i can't wait to take that out for a spin!!! never even sat in an e-type. they are so gorgeous and stylish even now.



from what you described, ive never seen that type of mercedes..the curiosity is killing me. i cant believe he has a e-type jaguar in pristine condition..im so envious, that your going be in that car and that you get to touch it. let me know if it has those soft buttery leather seats they used to put in them. *sigh* thanks for sharing your experience with us. this is great. 🙂
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well...the chemistry could be coming cos he's so funny and nice. the social gulf thing is easing a whole lot thanks to some business i'm doing with the aqua and his mother. he's wanted me to meet her to discuss this business but i've been too busy with other work to be able to see her and so i sent her my proposal by email today. i'm pretty confident in my skills any way but she is very impressed with me now. the aqua emailed and said she thinks i'm great so i said that she must never know i have a tattoo and then she'll always think i'm great, lol.

the social gulf is still there but it is possible to intercept these circles and still be yourself as long as you find a way to show what you bring to the table. i am from the educated classes and so i've always felt classless in that respect because although you can buy education and these people do, you can't buy knowledge and they rarely apply themselves as well at these posh schools as brainy kids do in regular state schools.

naturally, when i do meet his mother, i will wear smething that covers my tattoo and is appropriate to show respect for a woman of her generation (rather than social standing). but i'm feeling confident that i will be entering this circle from a position of respect for who i am and now where i've come from.

anyhow, they're both off to switzerland where they also live and aren't back until after easter. i'll be taking care of the business we're doing in their absence.

it's a weird thing i've got going with the aqua but it's all working out very well indeed.

especially as i asked him to bring back some swiss chocolate and he recommended my exact favourite type by lindt. man after my own heart. loves his chocolate.

lol...when he so generously responded to my request, i felt like saying....did i say swiss chocolate? yeah, well i meant to say a swiss watch? rolex'll do loooovely 😛
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