Aries and antisocials

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I think we are the sign of antisocials. Since Libra is know to be the most diplomatic and sociable, we would naturally be its opposite. Scorpios and aqaurius come close, but scorpios is more introverted and aquarius is more humantarian and aloof. I have a very strong antisocial streak. I always speak what I think, even if it means risking condemnation. Often I pit myself against the more powerful and goes where others fear to tread. Being politically correct is definitely not my nature.
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my boyfriend is an aries,and he says or does whatever he wants and he can be intimidating to weaker persons who cant stand up to him
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Antisocial ?....Dont know what would that imply precisely. I can call myself an outcast though. I cant relate to most of the humans around coz I live in my own imaginary world I still have to shake out that belief from my psyche that we are rational "machines" which operate ( or ideally should ) exactly as prescribed in the various religious/social/moral/scientific manuals.
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"Being politically correct is definitely not my nature."
Take five!
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As for me, It's not that I'm antisocial, it's that I'm my own person and refuse to conform unless it benefits me to my satisfaction. If somebody likes me then it's fine. If they don't like me, that's fine too, as long as they don't harm me in any way.
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I'd say I'm quite social actually when I want to be. I'm not afraid of being alone though either.
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high five to everyone! I think aries make good mob bosses.
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I don't bully the weak and passive. In fact, i always stand up for them. But someone without a powerful presense generally pissed me off. Someone who thinks nobody dares to touch their a $ $ and like to dominate everyone is asking for a fight with me. Leos generally fit this category. That makes me pretty much an outcast.
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red_aries 5/26/2007 12:17:46 PM | ip: xxx.xxx.xxx.195
"Someone who thinks nobody dares to touch their a $ $ and like to dominate everyone is asking for a fight with me. Leos generally fit this category."
Same here with those Leos man. Freaking loud mouths, though I generally don't fight until I'm pushed too far or if I get struck first.
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When Leos run their mouths I go from condition white to yellow, rather than to red.
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well there's some sense to that solitas. But that rule can't apply to leos.
Several leos I met are self-made kings. Overbearing and pompous.
Leos just can't get over the fact that the monarchy era is over.
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As for me. I am mostly silent and not talkative. Some people can mingle very well with crowds. But I prefer being alone unless there's someone that has the same wavelength as me . I am not afraid of crowds, just that I find some conversations shallow. So you can say I do not have much social skills. But if aroused or pissed, I can really make a scene in front of people.
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Social life in adulthood is about making enemies, not friends. I say things that are better not said. If that is the meaning of sociable, then I am quite sociable.
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Red-Aries:Often I pit myself against the more powerful and goes where others fear to tread. Being politically correct is definitely not my nature.
lol You sayin' you're the only one out there that ain't afraid of the dark? lol
As far as Antisociality goes, I would say I'm a strong one for that category; I think 'friends' or people in my close proximity are a pain in my ass. I'd think the less people around me the better. I'm definitely aloof, and won't bother to entertain someone I think is a waste of time. I can socialize like nobody's buisness, I just don't get all juiced up, everytime I think about talking to someone; I'd myself would rather get to the point because I hate talking and spilling my guts out for everyone to stabb at. I get to the point, and prefer the big picture to details; It is faster, and more efficent, that way. I can't stand having people around when I didn't ask for them to come. I fight for myself, and honestly screw the world; Don't expect anyone to fight for you, becuase you'll be waitin' round getting your ass whiped. You could say I'm arrogant, you could say I'm cold-blooded, dosen't matter to me. Life's a struggle and a hell of a fight, so get ready for whatever comes you way is my philosophy.
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This ain't a world for the soft-hearted, and soft-spoken it's true; you've gotta be independent, self-sufficent and able to fend for yourself. I'd rather not have friends because I prefer my freedom, to attatchments any day of the week. Between having them calling you up and chating away the night about THEIR problems, and people just talking your ear off is annoying as hell to me! When the HELL DID A GRIMACE BECOME A SOCIAL SIGN FOR 'HELLO?!' LOL Tongue
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Branh:Aquas is another masculine sign. They are very comfortable in social settings. Even the ones who really aren't that social, have no problem "faking" a social presence. Masculine
Branh, what's the point of 'faking' anything in life in general? I don't get it. If you don't want to talk than don't. Faking it is being faking, and is denying yourself what you really think. I don't trust people, and I'm always reading motives, but I've no problem with being personable, that is when we're talking about me of course.
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Thats pretty out of whack for a virgo....
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For some of us, social acceptance is important. For others, not so much. But no one can live a life of being completely alone, virgoexalted. You are still 18, that means your still living with your parents I presume. But imagine your parents dies out, and you are totally on your own for the rest of your life. You might make it through the middle years if you are hard enough, but once you get old, you will know how hard life is to be self-reliant and still have to bear life's obstacles all by yourself.
I choose to be an antisocial, partly, because I have a lifelong ambition to fulfill and it demands me to be one. But being antagonistic towards the world and going against it all the time is very tiring and exhausting.
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Thats nice Aedimus. You are just asking to be f***ed.
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and you don't want to f*** with a sign that does not fear death.
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I can't believe you have the balls to come back to this thread Aedimus.
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You can go self-suicide, Aedimus. And we'll help you out in right moment when you're surrounded by enemies everywhere.
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aries is social not antisocial

Aedimus
why you hate aries?
any problem?
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I work with an Aries and he doesn't have much social skills..he usually mumbles to himself...I find it very irritating...but he's cute when he smiles and I see that smile every morning so I am not going to complain..actually I am surrounded by Aries and Scorpio in my new office..
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we are the most competitive sign in the whole zodiac
and we are social more than many signs
u got the image of aries now?
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Play nice Red Arse.
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Red Aries:For some of us, social acceptance is important. For others, not so much. But no one can live a life of being completely alone, virgoexalted. You are still 18, that means your still living with your parents I presume. But imagine your parents dies out, and you are totally on your own for the rest of your life. You might make it through the middle years if you are hard enough, but once you get old, you will know how hard life is to be self-reliant and still have to bear life's obstacles all by yourself.
As far as you care to shoot you mouth off, I gotta say you're right OFF the money! lol I haven't been living with my parents all that long. I was kicked out, and ran away or lived with others during most of puberty, and I only recently began to live with them because they didn't want anyone knowing about their 'wayward son'; I won't give you any details just know that it was probably as bad as you could imagine; not every family is worth discussing. THAT is why I'm with them. For the future, don't presume to know something if you DON'T know anything about it. Did you even know or care to think that your optimism, was born from the labor of your parents, and all those around you who actually cared to fostered your illusions? Isn't that a trip? lol Life a war, and that's all it is, because in war, yeah, you get breif respites, but it never lets up for long....I've had to figure out ways to pay bills, and feed myself, and take care of my year-younger brother on my own becuase my parents weren't in the position to even deal with us emotionally, as a result, I left, to take care of myself. Imagining my parents dying?! lmao, I've already lived/played out EVERY scenario; the point is, I have to be in a position so that REGARDLESS of circumstances, and details, I MUST WILL MYSELF TO BE OK. Mommy and Daddy weren't able to help, and I'm dealing with it; it won't be the perfect ending, but that's it! I don't have any more dreams or fantasies as far as they go. My fantasies involve me getting away from my life, and leading one of my own choosing. And I'd like to think that based off my intellect, you probably already guessed that I can accept the consequences of that decision.
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Thats pretty out of whack for a virgo....
because it defies 'conventional' thought it's already 'out of whack'? W.O.W.....that astro-report crap only works for the 'simple' signs. Virgo isn't one of them....The only way you'll understand Virgo behavior is by getting to know one personally. I'm not a mercury Virgo, so the typical description won't work for me.
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i cannot agree with you more. That is a perfect and intellegent statment.
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dude, I understand you are bitter about life. But if you continue to believe that you need no one else on this world but yourself, your life is just going to get harder and harder. I am not going to lecture you anymore, it seems you know better than anyone else how to run your life. Be my guest if you think it suits you.
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One of my best friends an Aries... she's antisocial in that she'll not go out of her way to be polite, or comforting to people, some of the things she does on impulse are pretty antisocial and she has a bad habit of sleeping with other peoples boyfriends or girlfriends.
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Well....as they say - no two snowflakes are the same.
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My father can be conide5red antisocial, but like everyone he has his set of friends that he's more open with.
He is a very intimidating man, and not many of his peers are warm to him b/c of it.
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I thought opposite signs were more on the lines of being the same but to two different extremes.
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REScared dude, I understand you are bitter about life. But if you continue to believe that you need no one else on this world but yourself, your life is just going to get harder and harder. I am not going to lecture you anymore, it seems you know better than anyone else how to run your life. Be my guest if you think it suits you.
You haven't been listening to me have you? lol I don't HAVE that luxury of having people in my life! It's not a matter of I chose/believe that I didn't/don't need people, they aren't AVAILABLE to me!. Bitterness has nothing to do with it, I don't have people around me who can be there, and that I can trust. My life is hard, plenty hard, but so long as I got life and blood in these veins, I'm NEVER going to give up, yes, I'm obstinate, and no, I will never quit even if life tries to beat me in as long as I get up from every knock-down that's all I care about. I'm finding a way to WORK my life out so that I can deal with things even when no ones in my corner.
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life is a trial, and it's gonna push you to the depths of hell, and back up to heaven. I'm not saying there isn't the occasional silver linning, I'm saying that's all it is....OCASSIONAL. You have to live life in-between those silver linnings, you can't live life SOLELY FOR those silver linnings becuase you'll just end up wasting life away looking, waiting, and wondering when the next one will come. My life was a drought of them, but I NEVER stop believeing that they're out there, and they come. So, I'm not bitter at all, I'm aware of the practical issues of life, all the while I'm not discouraged by them. I'm tolerant to the intolerations/frustrations of life. Struggle is as much apart of life as anything else. I'm not saying I know it all, but how can someone teach about something they haven't leaned about on first-hand? It will be a superficial lecture that goes nowhere; it's the 'blind leading the blind' scenario.....
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Lady M:I thought opposite signs were more on the lines of being the same but to two different extremes. I'll say it like this; Aries CAN oppose Virgo becuase Aries is about primordial drives, and the self....Virgo is about the spirit of Generosity/Service from the very core of the self. Virgo is a human, and human can oppose animal, and psychologically speaking, the ID(animalistic, primitive drives *ME FIRST*) opposses the EGO/SUPEREGO (the urge to be better than the self, but putting others before our selves*GO AHEAD, I'LL BE FINE*) These personalities oppose each other because their about the sacrifice/retionsion of the self....giving and recieving, Humanitarianism, v. Individual Assertion.....they are opposites....
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What did I do? am I guilty for letting someone know about the reality of MY life? lol I'll just retire, and reflect...
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Aries opposite is Libra.
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lmao, I know that it does, I'm simply providing a theory/abstract for alternative....and notso, and flogging wouldve sufficed to a cold 'for some reason...' I'll be in the corner licking my wounds thank you! lol
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ummm, okay.
I like him...glad he let go of the caps though...smile
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If nothing else, DON'T give me your pitty; I don't want ANYONES pitty. I didn't get to be as strong as I am by embracing pitty. Pitty is for the weak, and the weak willed. Someone is going for your life, going for something that's yours, so do you let them take it, and leave you with nothing? No, you fight longer, and harder, and refuse to give in even when you feel like giving in. That's when you go all out. I'm glad that no one painted me a pretty picture, I've already declared myself winner in my mind, and from there, I'll turn my title into a reality. I don't hate anyone, but if anyone should get in my way for something I want, they'll face a great foe. No one spares anyone in this world, that's what makes it imperfect, and I won't let anyone, ANYONE take from me. Soft-hearted folk are alwasys victims, and I've told myself I'll never become that, there is no circumstance that will break me, no person that can topple me, and I believe it. Life IS war, but it's peace as well, for the brief moments we can get it, and even then you have to fight for it. No I wasn't offered an sugar-coated childhood, and I'm glad, becuase it makes it easier to defend/fight for what is rightfully mine. I don't care how long, or hard I have to fight for it, I'll win it, no matter what.
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I won't spare anyone that stands in my way. That's life. If you we're hungry would you pass up an chance for a meal? I should think not, you've gotta eat too, and you will. No matter what. That's my philosophy; I'm hungry, and I'll eat till my hearts content, by going for what I want, and refusing to give in until it's in my hands/at my disposal. Reality CAN be lonely and sad, but I'm don't pitty myself, so I don't feel sad, or lonely. I know that I struggled for what little 'abundance' I have be it knowledge, or independence, I fought for it, and I won't let anyone take it away from me. If that means I won't have friends, so be it; a minor draw back; I told myself that I won't let the absense of happiness in this moment, stop me from having what I want in the long run.
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well not all leos are bad. One of my best friend is a leo and he's a really good tennis player. But some leos are autocrats and outright jerks. My years in high school are ruined by a leo because no one dares to stand up to him. Leos are symbols of elitism that must be wiped out.
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like I said solitas: so long as they stay out of my way, all is peaceful; if not, I'm not adverse to seeking vengeance. Better for my stradegy: by appearing calm and disarming, and striking when it's least expected, and most oprutune, I can take what's mine, and teach anyone the screws with me they'll get it every time they feel balsy enough to attempt a challenge. Pitty, and mercy don't exist in reality. Life isn't going to sit you down, and tell you to cheer up! lol no, what it will do is be the drunken relative that slaps you on the back and tells you 'tough tit'. I'd defend my loved ones just fine, but I don't have any except for myself. and regardless to what you wish I don't say or do, it dosen't change life in general; it's a fight, a bloody, knuckle-buster, and it's not for the passive, or weak. You've gotta fight on all levels, becuase there's ALLWAYS someone who wants to take from you. Wether it be child or adult, I'll not give so easy if it's not one of my own. I find no real reason in interacting with people becuase I don't need them for completion. I have all I need in me, and I don't hunger for others at all. Mercy? Compassion? lmao, you can't be serious, you're Ideals are really inspiring, and even for a more flightier type, the stuff life's made of, but for this Virgo, I'll not be so fooled. My mercy, compassion, and emotions in general serve me, and are all under me, so, I don't 'feel' unless I'm intrigued enough to do so. Life will knock you on you arse if you don't fight. by fight I mean that, and surviving.
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lol so I'm cold-hearted! lol I'm actually glad that someone would acknowledge me as such! A compliment! lol Cold-hearted means power, and control, it means, you don't stand a chance against me, becuase I'll do most anything to teach you better. Perhaps you had a optimistic outlook bolstered, by hard-working parents who made sure you were secure and taken care of on every level, unfortunatly, while you we're having birthday parties, and family dinners some other child was being abused, and treated like less than a human, and had to fight for their life every day; so am I wrong in saying life is a war? Because life and war are relative in that they can both be hell. I was forced to suffer, and now, if I can, it'd be nice to return the favor to anyone else who thinks it's okay to toy around with me. People pitty the weak, and pride really is only subservient to my need to survive. It's a mechanism, a badge to remind me of what I went through, and how strong it's made me; how intense, and determined I've become. fight, become stronger, and develop and become the best you can but not through some means that dosen't really exist like pitty, and compassion. That's weakness, becuase LIFE, dosen't spare anyone, and isn't adverse to striking down ANYONE who goes against it, or whom is weak.
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Virgoexalted,Right on! Sounds like the virgo traits I have seen!
gemfox, what do you mean? I'd like you to tell me what these 'traits' are....
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......*VE looks for gemini foxes cheat sheet* lol
Your answer is....correct...lol Tongue Shut me I up at leat! Very perceptive actually....I perfer unlike a mars ruled person to explode, becuase I don't like showing ruffled feathers, I take great pride, and diginity in controling my emotions, and remaing cool...actually, very little ruffles my feathers....but when there is that occassion.....I explode, and the whole world can see, and well if they do, oh well. Life is messy, and I'm not against getting my hands dirty....
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btw, gemfox, flattery will get you ALMOST everywhere but with me....yeah, you'll go all the way.
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