Does Aries find it amusing to be contradictory?

This topic was created in the Aries forum by LibraLovesHim on Thursday, October 26, 2017 and has 28 replies.
Disclaimer: Just from my general observant point of view. I have no feelings in this I just find it interesting.

So I noticed with my Aries that he is generous, kind, fun and can be quite outgoing most of the time. We socialise with friends, go places together, cinema out for dinner etc but I feel that if society or if its expected of him or something calls for it he rebels.



Any experiences with this type of behaviour?
Yes very much so

All the Aries men i have known in my life have been argumentative for the sake of it

Like the poster said above, it's the child coming out
Posted by MyStarsShine
Yes very much so

All the Aries men i have known in my life have been argumentative for the sake of it

Like the poster said above, it's the child coming out
LOL it's so true.

Aries friends argue with you just to WIN the argument

Aries partners argue with you just for the make up sex and "winning"

Posted by ariesno
Hahaha. Yeah, I think it’s the child in us that wants to decide for ourselves 😁 Society is the annoying parent with all the rules and expectations. I want to be a strong individual and make my own decisions — I don’t strive on being different, I want to get married and have kids and all that, but I refuse to be a housewife for example, and if someone tried to make me, I would probably rebel. Is this what you’re talking about?
Can't this attitude be kind of self sabotaging?
Aries-dominant, I march only to the beat of my own drummer when it matters. You cannot get me to follow trends even if you stuck a gun to my temple.
Posted by Queenofthepheasantfairies
Posted by MyStarsShine
Yes very much so

All the Aries men i have known in my life have been argumentative for the sake of it

Like the poster said above, it's the child coming out
LOL it's so true.

Aries friends argue with you just to WIN the argument

Aries partners argue with you just for the make up sex and "winning"

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Haha...i so relate to that

My father used to try and instigate arguments all the time...when i was younger i would bite...towards the latter part of his life, i didn't and we found peace smile

My Aries lover never *won* with me..lol...i had an answer for everything and when he could see i was having none of it, he would either change the subject immediately or turn his face away

boohoo Big Grin

Posted by tiziani
Sounds like an independence thing. Easier just to let someone feel it was their idea, they'll be OK with it.
True. I think I do quite well in making people think it was their idea, but I hate to feel sort of manipulative in that way lol!
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Posted by LibraLovesHim
Posted by ariesno
Hahaha. Yeah, I think it’s the child in us that wants to decide for ourselves 😁 Society is the annoying parent with all the rules and expectations. I want to be a strong individual and make my own decisions — I don’t strive on being different, I want to get married and have kids and all that, but I refuse to be a housewife for example, and if someone tried to make me, I would probably rebel. Is this what you’re talking about?
Can't this attitude be kind of self sabotaging?
What do you mean?

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Can't you ultimately lose what you want/need in life by pursuing from that angle? Ie someones telling me this is whats good for me, i'm not going to do it because they are telling me and it wasn't my decision. Or are you able to recognize?
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Posted by MyStarsShine
Posted by Queenofthepheasantfairies
Posted by MyStarsShine
Yes very much so

All the Aries men i have known in my life have been argumentative for the sake of it

Like the poster said above, it's the child coming out
LOL it's so true.

Aries friends argue with you just to WIN the argument

Aries partners argue with you just for the make up sex and "winning"



Haha...i so relate to that

My father used to try and instigate arguments all the time...when i was younger i would bite...towards the latter part of his life, i didn't and we found peace smile

My Aries lover never *won* with me..lol...i had an answer for everything and when he could see i was having none of it, he would either change the subject immediately or turn his face away

boohoo Big Grin



LOL and boy can they sulk!

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Hahahaha! I'm sure my ragin hormones at 32 to have a kid help me deal with my Aries.
Yes, I think is there independence. They don't want to feel like they are forced to do anything that they don't want to and they will rebel. Lol
Posted by Queenofthepheasantfairies
Posted by MyStarsShine
Yes very much so

All the Aries men i have known in my life have been argumentative for the sake of it

Like the poster said above, it's the child coming out
LOL it's so true.

Aries friends argue with you just to WIN the argument

Aries partners argue with you just for the make up sex and "winning"

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I wish my husband did make up sex. But No. It's argue to the death with him!

Posted by aquarius_man
yes, annoying bastards. will challenge you just to spite you. they re the YES, BUT people.
Haha. But let's admit they are wise, and usually get into arguments when they know what they are talking about. Aries won't engage in arguments on anything they aren't well informed.

They can give you reality check in a second
Posted by Sheever
Posted by aquarius_man
yes, annoying bastards. will challenge you just to spite you. they re the YES, BUT people.
Haha. But let's admit they are wise, and usually get into arguments when they know what they are talking about. Aries won't engage in arguments on anything they aren't well informed.

They can give you reality check in a second
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I am not really sure smile they dont have good arguments usually (just my experience), they just talk stereotypes (for a starter) and maybe watch who is biting and who surrends.... after you challange the nonsense, they get offensive, so it takes several very calm and insightful "challanges" until they stop to answer stereotypically..... (but again, just my experience) smile

Posted by Pandora101
Posted by Sheever
Posted by aquarius_man
yes, annoying bastards. will challenge you just to spite you. they re the YES, BUT people.
Haha. But let's admit they are wise, and usually get into arguments when they know what they are talking about. Aries won't engage in arguments on anything they aren't well informed.

They can give you reality check in a second
I am not really sure smile they dont have good arguments usually (just my experience), they just talk stereotypes (for a starter) and maybe watch who is biting and who surrends.... after you challange the nonsense, they get offensive, so it takes several very calm and insightful "challanges" until they stop to answer stereotypically..... (but again, just my experience) smile

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Well,I can tell as I am one aries, I am very observant. If i see you know your shit i rather listen and curious. I am always up for learning to improve myself. very factual so make sure your sources are no bs.

Also I think it's highly dependent on the age and maturity. Life experience+knowledge. I read a lot on topics lately especially physics and biology.

On the other hand I hate arguments and I rather smoothen out before escalate anything. I hate wasting time and energy generally especially things has no benefit for anyone. In the same time taking no shit so don't poke the sleeping lion because you ll be put in your place fastsmile

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Posted by Pandora101
Posted by Sheever
Posted by aquarius_man
yes, annoying bastards. will challenge you just to spite you. they re the YES, BUT people.
Haha. But let's admit they are wise, and usually get into arguments when they know what they are talking about. Aries won't engage in arguments on anything they aren't well informed.

They can give you reality check in a second
I am not really sure smile they dont have good arguments usually (just my experience), they just talk stereotypes (for a starter) and maybe watch who is biting and who surrends.... after you challange the nonsense, they get offensive, so it takes several very calm and insightful "challanges" until they stop to answer stereotypically..... (but again, just my experience) smile

Well,I can tell as I am one aries, I am very observant. If i see you know your shit i rather listen and curious. I am always up for learning to improve myself. very factual so make sure your sources are no bs.

Also I think it's highly dependent on the age and maturity. Life experience+knowledge. I read a lot on topics lately especially physics and biology.

On the other hand I hate arguments and I rather smoothen out before escalate anything. I hate wasting time and energy generally especially things has no benefit for anyone. In the same time taking no shit so don't poke the sleeping lion because you ll be put in your place fastsmile

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I like that smile

aries are observant, I agree, but it always (in my experience) takes time, until they admit something.... they know, they just cant help to say the first thing for proving their ego smile but, as I said, after calm and several! discussion about any topic, there is an understanding smile

PS. (How aqua and aries would not understand each other smile - but it takes time, because of the different expression- style smile )

mentally connected - verbally challanged

Not "amusing" more like, "why the hell should I do this mindless shit people just buy into??"

We're quite capable of being independent, which includes independent thinking. We aren't afraid to just do us and our own thing. In turn, people think it's rebelling or being contradictory, but the reality is we generally give no fucks about what others think- which usually is based in societal expectations.
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Posted by Sheever
Posted by Pandora101
Posted by Sheever
Posted by aquarius_man
yes, annoying bastards. will challenge you just to spite you. they re the YES, BUT people.
Haha. But let's admit they are wise, and usually get into arguments when they know what they are talking about. Aries won't engage in arguments on anything they aren't well informed.

They can give you reality check in a second
I am not really sure smile they dont have good arguments usually (just my experience), they just talk stereotypes (for a starter) and maybe watch who is biting and who surrends.... after you challange the nonsense, they get offensive, so it takes several very calm and insightful "challanges" until they stop to answer stereotypically..... (but again, just my experience) smile

Well,I can tell as I am one aries, I am very observant. If i see you know your shit i rather listen and curious. I am always up for learning to improve myself. very factual so make sure your sources are no bs.

Also I think it's highly dependent on the age and maturity. Life experience+knowledge. I read a lot on topics lately especially physics and biology.

On the other hand I hate arguments and I rather smoothen out before escalate anything. I hate wasting time and energy generally especially things has no benefit for anyone. In the same time taking no shit so don't poke the sleeping lion because you ll be put in your place fastsmile

I like that smile

aries are observant, I agree, but it always (in my experience) takes time, until they admit something.... they know, they just cant help to say the first thing for proving their ego smile but, as I said, after calm and several! discussion about any topic, there is an understanding smile

PS. (How aqua and aries would not understand each other smile - but it takes time, because of the different expression- style smile )

mentally connected - verbally challanged

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To me understanding and intention is compulsory. If I see you have a problem, I ask you before you would tell yourself, simply because I care. On the other hand if you don't care, why should I? You see the point for me is, how much I can do to make things better. If someone else doesn't have the slightest intention that's becomes a problem. Relationship is depends on both not one one person. Thry each contribute to make it work. One sided relationship is a big no for me. But it applies to everything pretty much. I am clear with myself and target the 100% mark always. If I can't make it, I tried. It's still better than not even trying. Now that Pissest me off.

Posted by rockyroadicecream
Not "amusing" more like, "why the hell should I do this mindless shit people just buy into??"

We're quite capable of being independent, which includes independent thinking. We aren't afraid to just do us and our own thing. In turn, people think it's rebelling or being contradictory, but the reality is we generally give no fucks about what others think- which usually is based in societal expectations.




Rocky, I never thought Aries are rebels smile being contradictory yes, depending on the other placements as well

but rebels? not really..... telling the "truth" is not rebelling, because the "truth" is relative smile

and EGO proveness - some people Aries are making arguments with just get annoyed or bored or they dont have the arguments themselves - so the Aries may think they win or they are the only ones to tell, how it is.... that is the self-centered thing with Aries smile

PS. I love aries, my best friend and my father are Aries, it takes time smile (my 2 cents only)

Posted by Sheever
Posted by Pandora101
Posted by Sheever
Posted by Pandora101
Posted by Sheever
Posted by aquarius_man
yes, annoying bastards. will challenge you just to spite you. they re the YES, BUT people.
Haha. But let's admit they are wise, and usually get into arguments when they know what they are talking about. Aries won't engage in arguments on anything they aren't well informed.

They can give you reality check in a second
I am not really sure smile they dont have good arguments usually (just my experience), they just talk stereotypes (for a starter) and maybe watch who is biting and who surrends.... after you challange the nonsense, they get offensive, so it takes several very calm and insightful "challanges" until they stop to answer stereotypically..... (but again, just my experience) smile

Well,I can tell as I am one aries, I am very observant. If i see you know your shit i rather listen and curious. I am always up for learning to improve myself. very factual so make sure your sources are no bs.

Also I think it's highly dependent on the age and maturity. Life experience+knowledge. I read a lot on topics lately especially physics and biology.

On the other hand I hate arguments and I rather smoothen out before escalate anything. I hate wasting time and energy generally especially things has no benefit for anyone. In the same time taking no shit so don't poke the sleeping lion because you ll be put in your place fastsmile

I like that smile

aries are observant, I agree, but it always (in my experience) takes time, until they admit something.... they know, they just cant help to say the first thing for proving their ego smile but, as I said, after calm and several! discussion about any topic, there is an understanding smile

PS. (How aqua and aries would not understand each other smile - but it takes time, because of the different expression- style smile )

mentally connected - verbally challanged



To me understanding and intention is compulsory. If I see you have a problem, I ask you before you would tell yourself, simply because I care. On the other hand if you don't care, why should I? You see the point for me is, how much I can do to make things better. If someone else doesn't have the slightest intention that's becomes a problem. Relationship is depends on both not one one person. Thry each contribute to make it work. One sided relationship is a big no for me. But it applies to everything pretty much. I am clear with myself and target the 100% mark always. If I can't make it, I tried. It's still better than not even trying. Now that Pissest me off.

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Quote: "If I see you have a problem, I ask you before you would tell yourself, simply because I care."

If I know you, I dont have to ask, if you have a problem, I know it.... I dont force you to tell me, how vulneralbe you are....

If I dont know you, I am asking questions about the circumstances of your life, everything, what can give me a guide, why you are acting like this (not you!! generally) and why you may have a problem

Quote: "If someone else doesn't have the slightest intention that's becomes a problem. "

I agree, I hate whining... there is just "enough is enough" at some point what you can do for others


Posted by Pandora101
Posted by rockyroadicecream
Not "amusing" more like, "why the hell should I do this mindless shit people just buy into??"

We're quite capable of being independent, which includes independent thinking. We aren't afraid to just do us and our own thing. In turn, people think it's rebelling or being contradictory, but the reality is we generally give no fucks about what others think- which usually is based in societal expectations.




Rocky, I never thought Aries are rebels smile being contradictory yes, depending on the other placements as well

but rebels? not really..... telling the "truth" is not rebelling, because the "truth" is relative smile

and EGO proveness - some people Aries are making arguments with just get annoyed or bored or they dont have the arguments themselves - so the Aries may think they win or they are the only ones to tell, how it is.... that is the self-centered thing with Aries smile

PS. I love aries, my best friend and my father are Aries, it takes time smile (my 2 cents only)

*looks around*

That wasn't directed solely at you just because it was below your post.



Behold,

Posted by LibraLovesHim
Disclaimer: Just from my general observant point of view. I have no feelings in this I just find it interesting.

So I noticed with my Aries that he is generous, kind, fun and can be quite outgoing most of the time. We socialise with friends, go places together, cinema out for dinner etc but I feel that if society or if its expected of him or something calls for it he rebels.



Any experiences with this type of behaviour?
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Posted by Pandora101
Posted by Sheever
Posted by Pandora101
Posted by Sheever
Posted by Pandora101
Posted by Sheever
Posted by aquarius_man
yes, annoying bastards. will challenge you just to spite you. they re the YES, BUT people.
Haha. But let's admit they are wise, and usually get into arguments when they know what they are talking about. Aries won't engage in arguments on anything they aren't well informed.

They can give you reality check in a second
I am not really sure smile they dont have good arguments usually (just my experience), they just talk stereotypes (for a starter) and maybe watch who is biting and who surrends.... after you challange the nonsense, they get offensive, so it takes several very calm and insightful "challanges" until they stop to answer stereotypically..... (but again, just my experience) smile

Well,I can tell as I am one aries, I am very observant. If i see you know your shit i rather listen and curious. I am always up for learning to improve myself. very factual so make sure your sources are no bs.

Also I think it's highly dependent on the age and maturity. Life experience+knowledge. I read a lot on topics lately especially physics and biology.

On the other hand I hate arguments and I rather smoothen out before escalate anything. I hate wasting time and energy generally especially things has no benefit for anyone. In the same time taking no shit so don't poke the sleeping lion because you ll be put in your place fastsmile

I like that smile

aries are observant, I agree, but it always (in my experience) takes time, until they admit something.... they know, they just cant help to say the first thing for proving their ego smile but, as I said, after calm and several! discussion about any topic, there is an understanding smile

PS. (How aqua and aries would not understand each other smile - but it takes time, because of the different expression- style smile )

mentally connected - verbally challanged



To me understanding and intention is compulsory. If I see you have a problem, I ask you before you would tell yourself, simply because I care. On the other hand if you don't care, why should I? You see the point for me is, how much I can do to make things better. If someone else doesn't have the slightest intention that's becomes a problem. Relationship is depends on both not one one person. Thry each contribute to make it work. One sided relationship is a big no for me. But it applies to everything pretty much. I am clear with myself and target the 100% mark always. If I can't make it, I tried. It's still better than not even trying. Now that Pissest me off.

Quote: "If I see you have a problem, I ask you before you would tell yourself, simply because I care."

If I know you, I dont have to ask, if you have a problem, I know it.... I dont force you to tell me, how vulneralbe you are....

If I dont know you, I am asking questions about the circumstances of your life, everything, what can give me a guide, why you are acting like this (not you!! generally) and why you may have a problem

Quote: "If someone else doesn't have the slightest intention that's becomes a problem. "

I agree, I hate whining... there is just "enough is enough" at some point what you can do for others


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Here comes to be observant. You can get more information of someone just by observation of their habitat and self expression of different situations. You know exactly when they have a problem. So you can make first step to reach out. Sone people rather just try to keep themselves however they don't understand that it effects their environment at home or wherever. Just speaking generally toosmile


I don't like to be forced into anything I don't want to do. In other words, u can't force me lol .. I'll be the one to force myself .. I'm very independent, don't like to argue, don't have a spiteful bone in my body, I'm competitive in a healthy way- I don't have to try to be different, I just am different & have been all my life..I don't consider myself a rebel , like rocky said, us aries really don't care what others think of us... speaking for myself- I care what I think of myself more than what anyone else thinks of me
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Hahaha. Yeah, I think it’s the child in us that wants to decide for ourselves 😁 Society is the annoying parent with all the rules and expectations. I want to be a strong individual and make my own decisions — I don’t strive on being different, I want to get married and have kids and all that, but I refuse to be a housewife for example, and if someone tried to make me, I would probably rebel. Is this what you’re talking about?
Can't this attitude be kind of self sabotaging?
What do you mean?

Can't you ultimately lose what you want/need in life by pursuing from that angle? Ie someones telling me this is whats good for me, i'm not going to do it because they are telling me and it wasn't my decision. Or are you able to recognize?
Being independent doesn't mean self-sabotaging. It's just that...being independent.

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It was stated "the CHILD in us that wats to decide for ourselves" children don't always know whats best for them. Advice can often be invaluable. I wasn't at all challenging it from an independent aspect. I am very independent myself.

Its an interesting personality trait.
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Posted by ariesno
Hahaha. Yeah, I think it’s the child in us that wants to decide for ourselves 😁 Society is the annoying parent with all the rules and expectations. I want to be a strong individual and make my own decisions — I don’t strive on being different, I want to get married and have kids and all that, but I refuse to be a housewife for example, and if someone tried to make me, I would probably rebel. Is this what you’re talking about?
Can't this attitude be kind of self sabotaging?
What do you mean?

Can't you ultimately lose what you want/need in life by pursuing from that angle? Ie someones telling me this is whats good for me, i'm not going to do it because they are telling me and it wasn't my decision. Or are you able to recognize?
Being independent doesn't mean self-sabotaging. It's just that...being independent.

It was stated "the CHILD in us that wats to decide for ourselves" children don't always know whats best for them. Advice can often be invaluable. I wasn't at all challenging it from an independent aspect. I am very independent myself.

Its an interesting personality trait.
An inner-child and an ACTUAL child are 2 different things lol. You taking him literally was your own choice

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Ok, so what are you here for really? It is not an argument about independence or not so your point is irrelevant?
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Posted by ariesno
Hahaha. Yeah, I think it’s the child in us that wants to decide for ourselves 😁 Society is the annoying parent with all the rules and expectations. I want to be a strong individual and make my own decisions — I don’t strive on being different, I want to get married and have kids and all that, but I refuse to be a housewife for example, and if someone tried to make me, I would probably rebel. Is this what you’re talking about?
Can't this attitude be kind of self sabotaging?
What do you mean?

Can't you ultimately lose what you want/need in life by pursuing from that angle? Ie someones telling me this is whats good for me, i'm not going to do it because they are telling me and it wasn't my decision. Or are you able to recognize?
Being independent doesn't mean self-sabotaging. It's just that...being independent.

It was stated "the CHILD in us that wats to decide for ourselves" children don't always know whats best for them. Advice can often be invaluable. I wasn't at all challenging it from an independent aspect. I am very independent myself.

Its an interesting personality trait.
An inner-child and an ACTUAL child are 2 different things lol. You taking him literally was your own choice

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She's a Libra. Being independent or having independent thinking is a foreign concept to her. You're in a losing battle here.
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Posted by ariesno
Hahaha. Yeah, I think it’s the child in us that wants to decide for ourselves 😁 Society is the annoying parent with all the rules and expectations. I want to be a strong individual and make my own decisions — I don’t strive on being different, I want to get married and have kids and all that, but I refuse to be a housewife for example, and if someone tried to make me, I would probably rebel. Is this what you’re talking about?
Can't this attitude be kind of self sabotaging?
What do you mean?

Can't you ultimately lose what you want/need in life by pursuing from that angle? Ie someones telling me this is whats good for me, i'm not going to do it because they are telling me and it wasn't my decision. Or are you able to recognize?
It's more like "I'm going to do it because I want to, and not because they are telling me to."

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I get it. But is there ever a "i want to do this, but because they've told me to i'm not going to do it incase it seems like i'm doing it for them"
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Hahaha. Yeah, I think it’s the child in us that wants to decide for ourselves 😁 Society is the annoying parent with all the rules and expectations. I want to be a strong individual and make my own decisions — I don’t strive on being different, I want to get married and have kids and all that, but I refuse to be a housewife for example, and if someone tried to make me, I would probably rebel. Is this what you’re talking about?
Can't this attitude be kind of self sabotaging?
What do you mean?

Can't you ultimately lose what you want/need in life by pursuing from that angle? Ie someones telling me this is whats good for me, i'm not going to do it because they are telling me and it wasn't my decision. Or are you able to recognize?
Being independent doesn't mean self-sabotaging. It's just that...being independent.

It was stated "the CHILD in us that wats to decide for ourselves" children don't always know whats best for them. Advice can often be invaluable. I wasn't at all challenging it from an independent aspect. I am very independent myself.

Its an interesting personality trait.
An inner-child and an ACTUAL child are 2 different things lol. You taking him literally was your own choice

She's a Libra. Being independent or having independent thinking is a foreign concept to her. You're in a losing battle here.
Lol, I can see that. I've made my point already so she can be obtuse all she wants to be smile
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She's just substituting a Libran response for the Aries and refuses to listen because in her eyes, that's why one would do it. The insecure Libras are notorious for being sad, passive fucks and would do shit like that just to spite people because that's their pussy way of telling someone to fuck off.


Frankly, it's gotten old with her on this forum. Her insecurities and desperation are blatantly obvious. What happened to just being in a freaking relationship and not analyzing everything to death or using it as something to flaunt like a status or a way to prove self worth?
Also, thinking back on the title of the topic- lol coming from a Libra- shit stirrers of the Zodiac.