I need help fr all Arians

This topic was created in the Aries forum by heidil on Monday, January 29, 2007 and has 34 replies.
Hi everyone I really need some advise here.
I am a 28yr old Pisces in love with an Aries man.I really need some advise here as my issue has been going on for a yr and I cant figure it out so all Ariens plz help.
I met this guy a yr ago and there was this instant spark, eventho we didn't speak there was this amazing connection. Anyways things moved quickly and we became physical. It was the most awesome thing I ever felt I felt so protected and safe as he is a very strong minded Aries. Anyway he says he doesn't want a relationship; however he will ask why I like him how he isn't good enough for me etc. When we talk on the phone (usually once or twice a week) one min he is nice and another he is cold and almost trying to push me away by being rude and mean. When we r together he has a hard time looking into my eyes not that he doesn't want to but he shies away. When we kiss theres so much passion its incredible, well me for me anyways. My point is he gives me the impression how he doesn't want a relationship with me one min then another min he wants me to come over or he will say I miss you but don't trust myself around you. He seems to always test me like see if get jealous and I will never react as I know it's a test and it seems to get him angrier. Push and pull game. He told me he knows that I love him but he isn't ready. If I don't call him for more then a few weeks he calls me to see where I am. The longest period that we didn't speak was 6weeks then he called saying how he let a good thing go away how maybe now he was ready etc?we met and we got physical and he got cold and mean. This guy is supper nice to mean then we will get physical and he is mean for a couple of weeks,
My question is am I wasting my time ?. Would my Aries man play this game for a yr, or could he be falling in love to and is afraid. This guy has been single for 5yrs his last girlfriend of 8yrs left him. Does he feel the passion I feel or am I living a dream?
Plz help me as I am driving myself crazy trying to figure him out.
An Aries getting COLD for any reason is a red flag. Aries is ALL FIRE sign and that FIRE doesn't burn out or go away. If he can't look you in the eyes and he's COLD in any way, he's playing games---or he's BAD Aries---and it's best for you to swim away. Aries guys are LUSTY so he probably wants you (and I KNOW Pisces women are INCREDIBLE---they can put a hold on us in this surreal way) BUT the Aries guy that is totally into you will be truthful, possible brutally honest and keep things SIZZLING---it's his nature!
I'll help you, if you help me. Typical Aries, eh? Winking
ERMMM...
Your guy sounds a little something like so: He feels the connection. He calls you whenever he's feeling particularly restless. It's not so much lonliness, maybe. Although that is def. a factor. His life gets very hectic and you're the quiet retreat. It's all lovely while you're together. But then he starts overanalyzing things and perhaps has bad memories of his ex. He was with her for 8 years. That's major. And now, 5 years later, he still doesn't know if he can ever trust again.
Trust is a big thing with us, Arians. Though we'd like to think we trust until proven wrong, it's the opposite. You have to earn it.
How to win his heart: I know you'll think I'm crazy, but bear with me. When he starts those arguments, he doesn't want to create turmoil. He starts feeling vulnerable and instead of telling you how he feels, he has an outburst. This way he releases all the anxiety he's built up by not telling you anything. And thus avoiding seeming weak.
When he starts something, he wants you to yell back. Seriously. I know I do...
It's kind of like: We think if we're worth keeping, we're worth fighting for. And if we have to create something to seperate ourselves from you, we will. But we want you to be a protector, too, in a sense. Cuz we want you to rescue us from ourselves.
Hopefully I've helped a little.
Now what to do about my Pisces amor?
smile
It funny you say to yell back when my Mr Aries will start to yell or cause drama is what I call it. Because I never do yell back I am nice and quiet. But I do have a bad temper and it takes a lot to get it out of me?its funny cause if I am in a bad mood or start to yell back my Mr Aries gets all quiet and soft and sweet and will ask me when I am done my tantrum if I feel better ?its sorta funny. I swear this man tries to make me explode and see what type of temper I have?is that a turn on for aries men when a women explodes and gets all mad?.
I would fight for my aries if I knew he felt the same way?once I went there to see him and he didn't know I was coming over bad move he was soooo upset. Why doesn't aries like unexpected guest?.
"It's kind of like: We think if we're worth keeping, we're worth fighting for. And if we have to create something to seperate ourselves from you, we will. But we want you to be a protector, too, in a sense. Cuz we want you to rescue us from ourselves."
Here ya go, heidil .. keep this is mind. Aries people HAVE to feel wanted and desired, they require a lot of attention .. in his mind, if you love him, you'll fight to the bitter end for him .. that's just the nature of the beast within. Also, he likely realizes that if he allows himself to gaze into your eyes .. he'll be captured and so he has to shield himself from this, for the time being .. until he's sure that you'll stand loyally by his side. As for the passsion being one-sided (yours), it's doubtful that this is the case .. you probably just aren't recognizing that he is swooped away, too, by this incrediable sensation because your entranced within your own ecstasy.
Pisces/Aries is a perfect match .. they give to each other what is missing within themselves .. don't give up .. fight for his love, Heidi .. it's worth it, he's worth it. Another thing to keep in mind .. though he's firey, and displays fits of anger, and seems a bit confusing right now .. Aries operates from the soul .. that's not to say they aren't intelligent, or rational .. it's just when they "feel", it's all the way down to the core of their essence .. to their soul.
Fight woman .. tooth and nail for him.
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I love your entries P-Angel, I swear I do..
I would love to fight for my Aries man since I am on the cusp of aqua/pisces I love a challenge as well, he knows this. How do I flight for him without pushing him away?I know aries loves their freedom and they don't want to feel suffocated so I give him space..how do I fight what do I do? without pushing him away.

Your right about the passion and the eye contact. Here is a little cute story it melted my heart?
Last week when I was with my aries guy, I kept trying to look into his eyes and he would look at me and shy away with a cute smile. I wear glasses , and anyways he said u like it when I look into you eyes right and I said ?Yes? so he said take off ur glasses so I can look into them. I said .?well I cant see without my glasses? his reply was I know..u intimidated me when u know I am looking at you?.so I took off my glasses ,?but still was able to work my magic without seeing lol?.
Uh. Well, Aries lets alot of things go unsaid. Just as your Pisceans think everyone should just know how you feel, Aries thinks everyone should just know what they think/why they think it.
Alot of times when I feel vulnerable, I just get loud and overbearring. Seems to effectively get people off my back. It's totally a defense mechanism; we don't even realize we're doing it till what we thought we wanted is achieved (ie being left alone)
But what you need to know is that all those times he says he doesn't want to be with you, secretly he's off dreaming about you. About being safe. And understood.
The thing is that this will only work if you're both willing to fight for it. It takes alot of change on both parts to make it work.
A tip: Be there for me and let him know you're safe. BUT. Don't be TOO available. Personally, when my fishy tries to be all lovey dovey out of the blue, I get suspicious. I am always in the mindset that THEY are the enemy - they meaning everyone, lol. It sucks.
Try letting him come to you. It will be terrifying for him, but. If he really wants you, he'll let you know. If it's one thing Aries is never unable to do, it's fighting for what he wants. Besides, he'll love the chase. Don't ever let your Aries man think you're an easy catch. You always have to be a little bit mysterious.
And you have to admit, being a bit confused is a major part of the attraction, is it not?
haha. *Be there for HIM...dang typos Winking
Thanks MysticFire?
I'll try that great help?is it safe to say that if my aires man didn't want me that this thing between us wouldn't be going on for a yr now?Wouldn't he stop taking my calls and just start to avoid me if he was truly sick of this
No. He wouldn't just avoid you. He would tell you. He would flat-out say if it wasn't working out. Then he would see your reaction to decide whether or not to keep pursuing you.
Aries may be a royal pain, but he'll never leave you or lie to you. He may be cranky or wishy washy. He may even lash out.
Aries needs to do this. Otherwise, he thinks he'll explode. Literally.
I can feel it when all this energy builds up and I have no way of expressing it.
G2g to work. Post again later, ok?
He doesn't do much. Well he is in a band he is the singer and he works but I am pretty sure he isn't with another girl as I have asked and his answer was no.
He told me I am no longer able to go to his shows as I am a distraction. A good distraction is what he said and he isn't sure how to deal with it.
Last show I went to this guy started to flirt with me and in the middle of his song he stopped and pointed to the guy and yelled at him to get away from me that I was his?it was sooooo embarrassing. From that point on he asked me not to go to his shows Winking.
I think maybe is afraid of getting attached and it not working, he has told me that if we where ever in a steady relationship he knows I would leave?not sure how to pursue this?but I am getting sick of it
Hey geminifox
Already to late?I spoke to him on the phone today first time in 8 days and he told me that he knew I loved him that he didn't feel the same way I told him I wanted to talk he said no and started arguing and using threats etc..
I asked him how he could sleep with me for a yr knowing I loved him and he didn't..why he would kiss me so passionately for hrs ..he just got angry?I asked why he called me 2 months ago telling me I was the greatest thing he let go and he denies the fact that he said it?.I am moving on as I cant take this crap and would love nothing more to run to his place and grab him by the horns and wrestle him to the ground. I am not convinced that he will stop calling me even if its in another 6 weeks and how do I treat him when he does being a pisces I don't like to hurt others.
Just my two cents worth here....
I think it is human nature to express our feelings to another. Whether we are male or female we WILL tell the other person our thoughts and feelings about the relationship. Here is what I have noticed to be the "problem" in these type of situations...for some reason when one person says to the other, "hey, I am just looking for friendship and not wanting to get in a "relationship." "I'm not in love with you." the other person does not believe him/her. Why is this? If we say this to someone, we mean it and I am including ALL signs here.
It is important to listen to the other person.....it is not misleading if one chooses to go ahead with the relationship knowing upfront the specs.
I have said this same thing to many men...."I am not interested in a "relationship" only friends." It's like they don't hear me.....yes, I will continue the friendship with them because it is my understanding that they have understood what I have said. Then.....they get all caught up in the Freebird's wings and wonder what happened. If they had only LISTENED to me!
Freebird, Men listening to women? Huh?
heidil, gem'fox knows what she's talking about. We don't want you hurt, dahlin'!
Was always up front about not wanting a relationship however he would?
-Tell me wait like 3 weeks maybe then I'll be ready..
-told the pizza guy when we ordered pizza I was his girlfriend..
-would continue to sleep with me while he knew how I felt..
He told me no girl would ever sleep at his house, as no girl did after his ex left him. I eventually slept over and that's when things got worse and he started to pull away?he then told a mutual friend of ours how I treated him so well that he couldn't deal with it how no ones treated him so well b4.
Then we got into a huge argument stopped talking and he calls saying how I was the greatest thing and would try and relive memories with me saying oh u always made me laugh etc maybe now I am ready for a relationship. After that we slept together twice and he was all like I know how u feel and I am not ready in a mean way he pushed me away ?saying not to call him anymore etc..however he is the one who called me..and denies the fact what he ever said?such as how I was a good thing he lost etc..
If a guy isn't ready say it and I wont attach myself but don't play games?plus I really have no experience in the dating field I don't date that much etc?I should be this guys prize if u ask me?I have a great career a car my own cash flow and I am really pretty. This guy however is not much to look at and I am still trying to figure out if he even works..he has collection agencies calling him everyday?this guy is crazy to throw me away?
H, Listen to g'fox. Believe me, she's being your best friend!
Thanks Gemini fox..
Don't get me wrong..I don't think I am better then him but I am a confident women. I am usually pretty good at screening out men who r not good for me so I though?I would hate to believe that I didn't see this one coming.
Your absolutely right in your post, I am not sure if this guy was working as I would see him maybe once a week but would catch him in many lies so everything he said was hard to believe?I clearly found a wounded Aries and being a pisces you just want to help them?.your right 100% . This was my first Aries first on experience and I guess I just got swept away in the passion on things..
Men men men..they can be real funny at times?well venting it out does help a lot so thanks again for listening you have been a great help?sorry to hear about you and your aries man?..take care sweetie?.
Cheers
Eventho he had issues I seen the potential he had, he couldn't see it in himself and I just cant leave someone who is wounded sit alone?then I fell in love with him..but if he is going to mistreat me then your right no-one deserves that type of behaviour
Ur kind words mean a lot to me so thanks for all that you have done. Here is a question for you.
When aries push you away do they do that for life?. I wish this guy would see that I wasn't that bad and be a little considerate to my feelings?I hope him and I can talk like normal people would in the near future?or do u think he will be gone like the wind?.
Thanks geminifox?
Not sure about all pisces but I cant stand it when someone doesn't like me I hate rejection and have had it all my life?in my perfect little world I would wish that one day he would be civilized and say she wasn't that bad, she did no harm..maybe we could laugh about the situation..
Ur right this guy is so not right for me, I just hate enemies. He'll push and pull me like for ex?we will talk then all of a sudden he gets mad and says don't call me again?but then he'll call me a few weeks after?I have to stand my ground if and when he does call and not give in to him he just has those words that make me melt but I am tired of this pain this guy has caused?I'm just wondering if he'll ever call again
I am so sorry to hear about you and your aries man,feel free to vent to me aswell if you wish?.if you want mess me and I'll give u my email address?u have been the greatest friend I had thru this?everyone I know see's me as this strong confident women and really don't now how I feel about whats going on with my aries man?guess that's the aqua part of me lol
Oh my god Gemini girl?Kso many stories r the same thing he put me thru..
I told him dude I am not the jelouse type and I am not if I know ur mine I really don?_t care what u do?Kanyways..my guy lets call him P anyways P is in a band so my friend had a thing for the drummer she would call P for advise on the drummer. My friend told me that he was flirting with her and I said I didn?_t really care as long as things didn?_t get out of hand?Kwell one day I am at his house and he looks at me point blank..and said he slept with her?K.so I smiled and said wow I hope she was as good as I am?Khe looked at me like he seen a ghost ..he was expecting a reaction but I didn?_t give in?K.
Once he told me he was leaving for work at 6am so I thought being the nice sweet person I am since I was driving by his house that morning to see my doctor I would stop by the bus stop to give him some coffee?Khe wasn?_t there so I said ok I?_ll go to his house?Kthe front door was unlocked and I walked in?KBIG MISTAKE!! His bedroom door was shut so I went in ?KI stood there and said hey wake up?Khe screamed as I must of scared the living day lights out of him and he just started to yell Get out Get out..and I reacted saying ok I?_ll leave but do you want the coffee he took it I left?Kwell 2 weeks went by and he finally called laughing how I dropped coffee off but couldn?_t realize why I would do that?KI explained that I am like with everyone I know?Kfr that point on he calls me psycho but in a fun way.
We really haven?_t left his place as he doesn?_t have a cash flow coming in so we wouldn?_t really do anything and he has to much pride to let me pay for anything..once he asked me to pick him up some milk so I spend 100.00 on groceries again pisces helping others..OMG when I walked in he screamed how he is a man and doesn?_t need a women to give him food he didn?_t ask for that blaw blaw blaw?Kso I stood there again and said ?? Sweetie trust me I didn?_t want to get these for you but it was on special so I thought I would do you a favour?? ? Then he was all like Oh ok?K.a few days later he said how he had the best pork chops ever?Kthe ones I bought and thanked me for it..
My P aries man is not all bad and even tho I know he has issues I do love this guy a lot..i am sure he felt something genuine about me aswell I could tell just by the way he would look at me?Khe wouldn?_t tell me how beautiful I was or anything like that but he would make coments on how I dressed how he li
Also when we stopped talking and he called me back?I gave him a hard time..i told him I don't give 2nd chances etc?how he had his turned and messed up?we spoke every second day for like 2 hrs on the phone..he even started talking like remember when..i couldn't remember some of the stories he was talking about and he got offenended like how could u forget?after it came to me..he practically told me that I some of the stuff we did in the bedroom where fantises he never thought he could live as he was almost ashamed of them?.so I thought It was all about s*x.but he kept fighting and chasing me until I went over and we where intimate..thats when he became an ass again.. that's where I currently stand with him
not sure whats going on with the ik at the end of my words sorry about that..how u understand
hope u understand...typos
He chases U n then again starts acting weird - A horror story once again. Seems like some of us like to learn the hard way.
I guess so, but you people are the kings and queens of passion..i am so jealous of that LOL..
Ok. heidil, I have one thing to say to you. Actually a couple. And I only read up to the 3rd page of this thread...so forgive me.
First of all, it doesn't matter if this guy is Aries, or Leo or Scorpio, or whatever. This guy sounds really F'ed up. Sorry for being blunt, and maybe others have already said it. It's like this, OK? You are a smart girl. And you have a reasonable amount of self respect, no?
Let me tell you from TONS of self experience (and believe me, its not something I'm particularly proud of)....BUT.....
why, oh freakin why, with all the fish in the sea (no pun intended) would you waste precious time on a guy who
#1) is giving you mixed messages ? (translation...LOSER)
#2) has a crappy relationship in his past? (translation...possibly damaged-and believe me, something you don't want the burden of fixing)

I am saying this because I have been where you are.
If a guy is in love with you sweetheart, there will be no wondering, or needing to ask people "What do you think this/that means?" ESPECIALLY ARIES.
I mean, MY GOD!!! We can be some of the most transparent people on the face of the planet. But, besides all of that, if a guy REALLY LOVES YOU, there should be no guess work.
I mean, that is what you are seeking, no? For him to be in love?
By the way, you guys, turn on VH1..best of the 70s is on! WHOHOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
geminifox
i will tell you the same thing i tell all my girlfriends with impossible A-hole men in their lives.
HIT HIM OVER THE HEAD WITH A FRYING PAN.
he will forever see you in a new light. he will either stay with you, because he is really in love...OR
he will think you are a violent crazy biotch and run far, far away.
but either way, darling..
HE WILL RESPECT YOU FOR IT!
and if he doesn't...well then, he was never worth it in the 1st place now, was he?
(disclaimer....i really do love men..just not abusive jerks, or ones who play mind games)
over and out
yup, yup
they just had good ole gloria gainer singing "i will survive"
lol...she was always my hero..even back then
back in the day
yeah, gemini..I've been there. Gosh, I feel her pain. I do. Its like, you know how sometimes you want to just go back in time, and shake yourself, and say "SELF!!!! WTF are you doing!!! *slap, slap, slap across the face*
just trying to give some advice is all...but we all must learn our own way, even if its the hard way.....OR..

maybe I am wrong? Maybe he is a diamond in the rough, that needs numerous hours of expensive therapy? i dunno...................
lol...yeah, well i guess we can all benefit from a little therapy.
the world would be a nicer place, and all the peeps in it.
i guess the trick is to find a guy who
-has no criminal history
-does not take psychiatric drugs (i am talking schizo here, not your everyday variety depression, or ADD, or some other relatively benign condition)
-doesn't live with his mom at 30 years old
-doesn't abuse you, children, or small animals
-doesn't abuse drugs or alcohol
-doesn't have an uncontrolable wandering eye which will put you at risk for STD's (to say the least)
-and isn't just a plain ole D*CK
gosh, how easy can it be to find one of those?
You guys r absolutely right I need to move on. I would hate to think he used me for a booty call for a year and that I waited for him for a year you know. I feel so stupid if that's the reality of it. I would just like him to be humane. I know some guys but usually I can pick those guys out and not get attached. I feel like I got deceived by the devil aka him or something
heidi, frying pans DO work.
What g said.

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