Juno Aspects

This topic was created in the Astrology Houses forum by lisabethur8 on Thursday, October 13, 2016 and has 35 replies.
ok so I read some Juno Aspects and got O___O


this one from bobMarks,


http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/Juno21.3.html


"Juno Aspects Uranus: If you have this combination in your horoscope (especially the stressful aspects, the conjunction, square, or opposition) I have a question for you. Let's say you walk into a room where there are twenty people, and nineteen of them are sane and normal, but the twentieth person either escaped from an insane asylum or just got off of a UFO, guess which one you would be most likely to marry? (Hint: it's not the first nineteen). Uranus always has to be Different. When Juno aspects Uranus, the partner or the partnership has to be different. With the harmonious aspects (sextile and trine) you don't get into as much trouble. The partner will tend to be independent, or very bright, or a bit odd. The partnership itself will likely be more "open" with each partner doing their own thing and going their own way. Uranus is fanatic about having enough of its own space. The stressful aspects can lead to several marriages. Elizabeth Taylor has Juno in Cancer square Uranus in Aries (Uranus is also in a close conjunction with Venus). Years ago, Julian Armistead gave a lecture on her chart. He had several of the press clippings that quoted her at the time of her marriages. Her first marriage to Nick Hilton: "I've never known it was possible to be this much in love. This is going to last forever." Her second marriage a couple of years later to Michael Wilding: "This time, it's the real thing. This is going to last forever." Her fifth marriage to - well who can keep track? "This time I mean it. It's the real thing." Juno in Cancer always wants it to last "forever" and Uranus always makes you think it's the "real thing." If you have a Juno/Uranus stress aspect, don't rush into marriage. And forget about having a partnership that is conventional. It would bore you to tears - and divorce. Make sure that you and your partner each has enough "space." It helps if one of you travels a lot (Uranus aspects are perfect for bi-costal marriages). Absence for this combination truly makes the heart grow fonder.

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do you have any juno aspects that are stressful like this?


Charlize Theron, Tom Cruise, and Miley Cyrus have this, as well as Elizabeth Taylor.


although not sure about Uranus. But I see in those celebs they do have a difficult time,

Cruise has longer term relationships but it is still stressful, he feels this is it, this is the one, but, then, something happens.

not always his fault.


Tom cruise has Juno Cancer square Uranus Libra.



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Also, Charlize Theron has Juno Cancer square Uranus libra,


one of the most beautiful women in Hollywood, has it all, but has difficulties and is still single.


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Miley Cyrus, has Juno Cancer OPPOSITE Uranus Capricorn.





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I was also wondering about houses too, but in bobmarks, he mentions that 7th house Saturn is not good, because of DELAYS.


and this is similar:



Juno Aspects Saturn: The partners will tend to be older (in spirit if not in actual years). With the harmonious aspects (sextile and trine) partners are likely to be solid, practical, and dependable, but, unless there are other indicators, don't expect them to be the life of the party. Conversely, partnership could bring out the solid, practical, and dependable side of you.The stressful aspects (conjunction, square, and opposition) may cause marriage to be delayed, or even denied. If you have this one, try not to get married before your first Saturn Return (which occurs around the age of twenty nine). Stressful aspects between Juno and Saturn can have a similar effect to Saturn placed in the 7th house. An early marriage (before the Saturn Return) will slowly decay until there is no affection left and the marriage collapses. Juno/Saturn stress aspects can also indicate someone who makes a bad marriage for "practical" reasons, such as security. They will also be prone to stay in a bad marriage to protest their social image, or because "a half a loaf is better than none." As if there is anything "practical" about having a bad marriage! These people have to learn to cut their losses and make a fresh start.

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I have Juno Virgo (5th house) and Uranus Scorpio (6th house). What is that, sextile? Or trine?
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I have many stressful aspects with my Taurus Juno, it looks like. Maybe the low orb (up to 3 degrees, say) count only? I don't know how asteroids are usually viewed with orb allowance.


Juno in 1st house


Juno conjunct Saturn - 3 degrees

Juno conjunct ascendant - 1 degree

Juno opposite sun - 0 degrees

Juno conjunct moon - 9 degrees

Juno opposite Venus - 6 degrees

Juno opposite Jupiter - 3 degrees

Juno opposite Mercury - 10 degrees

Juno opposite Neptune - 9 degrees
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Posted by Ajna
Is there anyone here that feel like they will


not have a partner? Not to put things on a


depressed or negative perspective but more


of a none judgemental observational look at it.


These aspect and my life in general, has made

it seem like these challenges or no partner will

be the norm for the most part. Or maybe like

marriage is out of reach in this current life.


Me.


Seems like either unconventional relationships or even no relationships will be the norm for me. No marriage.
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Posted by CopperDove


I have many stressful aspects with my Taurus Juno, it looks like. Maybe the low orb (up to 3 degrees, say) count only? I don't know how asteroids are usually viewed with orb allowance.


Juno conjunct Saturn - 3 degrees

Juno conjunct ascendant - 1 degree

Juno opposite sun - 0 degrees

Juno conjunct moon - 9 degrees

Juno opposite Venus - 6 degrees

Juno opposite Jupiter - 3 degrees

Juno opposite Mercury - 10 degrees

Juno opposite Neptune - 9 degrees
Do you feel what I've mentioned?


With stressful aspects, does it not

give you confidence as far as "seeing"

any real future for marriage? Or maybe

lack of or none existing marriage potential

within? I sound so negative but I don't know...
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I don't know if it comes from my Juno, but definitely I have the awareness that I will likely never marry.


The harder part for me, because I don't wish to marry anyone legally so that doesn't bother me, is that I probably won't have the kind of romantic relationship I most would like, or not long term. Something realistic in me sees that. It doesn't mean I will never date or have any good relationships in my future - I sense that will happen - but I also have a sense that I won't be a person who finds that special match that some people find. To be fair, not many people do, not long term.







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Posted by Ram416
Posted by Ajna
Is there anyone here that feel like they will


not have a partner? Not to put things on a


depressed or negative perspective but more


of a none judgemental observational look at it.


These aspect and my life in general, has made

it seem like these challenges or no partner will

be the norm for the most part. Or maybe like

marriage is out of reach in this current life.


Me.


Seems like either unconventional relationships or even no relationships will be the norm for me. No marriage.


I feel this for me too but..


Maybe I'm coming at it wrong though?


Challenging aspects are to teach I guess

and not necassarly just instant doom and

failure I suppose. What aspects do you

have for juno?

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Juno Virgo (5th house) and Uranus Scorpio (6th house )


Not sure about the other aspects
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Posted by lisabethur8
I was also wondering about houses too, but in bobmarks, he mentions that 7th house Saturn is not good, because of DELAYS.


and this is similar:



Juno Aspects Saturn: The partners will tend to be older (in spirit if not in actual years). With the harmonious aspects (sextile and trine) partners are likely to be solid, practical, and dependable, but, unless there are other indicators, don't expect them to be the life of the party. Conversely, partnership could bring out the solid, practical, and dependable side of you.The stressful aspects (conjunction, square, and opposition) may cause marriage to be delayed, or even denied. If you have this one, try not to get married before your first Saturn Return (which occurs around the age of twenty nine). Stressful aspects between Juno and Saturn can have a similar effect to Saturn placed in the 7th house. An early marriage (before the Saturn Return) will slowly decay until there is no affection left and the marriage collapses. Juno/Saturn stress aspects can also indicate someone who makes a bad marriage for "practical" reasons, such as security. They will also be prone to stay in a bad marriage to protest their social image, or because "a half a loaf is better than none." As if there is anything "practical" about having a bad marriage! These people have to learn to cut their losses and make a fresh start.



I have the conjunction- never been married sooooo. It's also opposite my ascendant lol

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Posted by Ajna
Is there anyone here that feel like they will


not have a partner? Not to put things on a


depressed or negative perspective but more


of a none judgemental observational look at it.


These aspect and my life in general, has made

it seem like these challenges or no partner will

be the norm for the most part. Or maybe like

marriage is out of reach in this current life.




*raise hand*

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Posted by Ajna
Is there anyone here that feel like they will


not have a partner? Not to put things on a


depressed or negative perspective but more


of a none judgemental observational look at it.


These aspect and my life in general, has made

it seem like these challenges or no partner will

be the norm for the most part. Or maybe like

marriage is out of reach in this current life.


I think personally you need (those with hard aspects) a partner that will be DISTANT and not be around very very much.


that is URANUS. but you are together, and you he/she will be working FAR, maybe an astronaut, a truck driver that kind of thing.


but there's this fear too what if he/she is going to fall into temptation on the road?? like he will be screwing other women on his stops? that kind of thing?


this is just a general question.


so maybe those hard aspects mean, you can't be choosy and you can't think in terms of vows and marriage love ever after because what happens in the scenario where bobmarks site mentioned is that these individuals will go, "OH my GOSH this is it!!!! this is the one!!" and it's not.


it's delusional.
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Posted by justagirl
Posted by lisabethur8
I was also wondering about houses too, but in bobmarks, he mentions that 7th house Saturn is not good, because of DELAYS.


and this is similar:



Juno Aspects Saturn: The partners will tend to be older (in spirit if not in actual years). With the harmonious aspects (sextile and trine) partners are likely to be solid, practical, and dependable, but, unless there are other indicators, don't expect them to be the life of the party. Conversely, partnership could bring out the solid, practical, and dependable side of you.The stressful aspects (conjunction, square, and opposition) may cause marriage to be delayed, or even denied. If you have this one, try not to get married before your first Saturn Return (which occurs around the age of twenty nine). Stressful aspects between Juno and Saturn can have a similar effect to Saturn placed in the 7th house. An early marriage (before the Saturn Return) will slowly decay until there is no affection left and the marriage collapses. Juno/Saturn stress aspects can also indicate someone who makes a bad marriage for "practical" reasons, such as security. They will also be prone to stay in a bad marriage to protest their social image, or because "a half a loaf is better than none." As if there is anything "practical" about having a bad marriage! These people have to learn to cut their losses and make a fresh start.



I have the conjunction- never been married sooooo. It's also opposite my ascendant lol

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do you feel regrets?? that you never married? are you ok?


how do you feel about the future? you gonna be ok with what you have?


sorry for all the questions, but it's hard to wonder what it is like, so maybe some insights would help others.



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Posted by Ajna
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I have many stressful aspects with my Taurus Juno, it looks like. Maybe the low orb (up to 3 degrees, say) count only? I don't know how asteroids are usually viewed with orb allowance.


Juno conjunct Saturn - 3 degrees

Juno conjunct ascendant - 1 degree

Juno opposite sun - 0 degrees

Juno conjunct moon - 9 degrees

Juno opposite Venus - 6 degrees

Juno opposite Jupiter - 3 degrees

Juno opposite Mercury - 10 degrees

Juno opposite Neptune - 9 degrees
Do you feel what I've mentioned?


With stressful aspects, does it not

give you confidence as far as "seeing"

any real future for marriage? Or maybe

lack of or none existing marriage potential

within? I sound so negative but I don't know...
I don't know if it comes from my Juno, but definitely I have the awareness that I will likely never marry.


The harder part for me, because I don't wish to marry anyone legally so that doesn't bother me, is that I probably won't have the kind of romantic relationship I most would like, or not long term. Something realistic in me sees that. It doesn't mean I will never date or have any good relationships in my future - I sense that will happen - but I also have a sense that I won't be a person who finds that special match that some people find. To be fair, not many people do, not long term.


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same questions apply to you too.


I've seen your photo, and you have such a very pleasant and easy going personality, and are quite lovely...


you seem like a woman who would be very available for many single men out there, I mean that your traits are attractive to them.


so you feel that you want this "ideal" type of relationship and because of that, it fails because of your realistic side comes in and you won't ever settle for less??


then you will most likely fall into the scenario where bobmarks astrology site mentions too, that you will just stay for the sake of staying because it's better than nothing??


which in truth it is better to be single because your own company is better than someone else who doesn't make you happy?

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Posted by Ajna
Posted by Ram416
Posted by Ajna
Is there anyone here that feel like they will


not have a partner? Not to put things on a


depressed or negative perspective but more


of a none judgemental observational look at it.


These aspect and my life in general, has made

it seem like these challenges or no partner will

be the norm for the most part. Or maybe like

marriage is out of reach in this current life.


Me.


Seems like either unconventional relationships or even no relationships will be the norm for me. No marriage.


I feel this for me too but..


Maybe I'm coming at it wrong though?


Challenging aspects are to teach I guess

and not necassarly just instant doom and

failure I suppose. What aspects do you

have for juno?

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you are not with anyone right now then?


I thought for sure you were. maybe I thought you were someone else.


so you feel too that someone unconventional is better for you, or rather a very unconventional type of marriage/ or maybe lack of marriage, but more a partnership?


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Posted by Ajna
I love Charlize


I felt her character in sweet november was pisces.

I will check my Juno aspects
omgosh I was going to mention earlier, YES she does feel like pisces a lot. but she's a 12th houser.

even my husband likes her energy. He likes Piscean energy with leonine/aquairus traits. Taurus too.


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Posted by Ajna
Posted by Ram416
Posted by Ajna
Is there anyone here that feel like they will


not have a partner? Not to put things on a


depressed or negative perspective but more


of a none judgemental observational look at it.


These aspect and my life in general, has made

it seem like these challenges or no partner will

be the norm for the most part. Or maybe like

marriage is out of reach in this current life.


Me.


Seems like either unconventional relationships or even no relationships will be the norm for me. No marriage.


I feel this for me too but..


Maybe I'm coming at it wrong though?


Challenging aspects are to teach I guess

and not necassarly just instant doom and

failure I suppose. What aspects do you

have for juno?

Juno Virgo (5th house) and Uranus Scorpio (6th house )


Not sure about the other aspects
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I don't think there's anything bad about that though. It just seems you like unconventional relationshps, such as, you are into women, so that's very much already to conventional standards, very very unconventional


you may even just live together without marriage kind of thing.
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I have Juno Scorpio 1st house square Saturn Leo 11th house
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Posted by Shadowcat
Posted by lisabethur8
I was also wondering about houses too, but in bobmarks, he mentions that 7th house Saturn is not good, because of DELAYS.


and this is similar:



Juno Aspects Saturn: The partners will tend to be older (in spirit if not in actual years). With the harmonious aspects (sextile and trine) partners are likely to be solid, practical, and dependable, but, unless there are other indicators, don't expect them to be the life of the party. Conversely, partnership could bring out the solid, practical, and dependable side of you.The stressful aspects (conjunction, square, and opposition) may cause marriage to be delayed, or even denied. If you have this one, try not to get married before your first Saturn Return (which occurs around the age of twenty nine). Stressful aspects between Juno and Saturn can have a similar effect to Saturn placed in the 7th house An early marriage (before the Saturn Return) will slowly decay until there is no affection left and the marriage collapses. Juno/Saturn stress aspects can also indicate someone who makes a bad marriage for "practical" reasons, such as security. They will also be prone to stay in a bad marriage to protest their social image, or because "a half a loaf is better than none." As if there is anything "practical" about having a bad marriage! These people have to learn to cut their losses and make a fresh start.

That never made much sense to me, Saturn in the 7th house being bad. Because it is Libra's house, Saturn in Libra is exalted and I read somewhere that the houses follow the same rules as planets(which is why Aries rising is supposed to be good). I think it follows the same trend that I've noticed with many astrologers who claim that Saturn is awful in synastry, even though it's hella important for a long-term relationship.
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but Saturn in libra is very very discriminating then because of the exaltation in Saturn. If very very discriminating and more stable than your typical libra, then it will be much much more difficult to partner and to find someone who is a responsible mature individual, especially when young, in your 20s and even a lot of times, 30s, because many men for example are not finished with their college and studies till late 20s and sometimes 30s, and many men do stay with their parents and the ones who aren't with parents are already married/taken, early. So they are out of the question because they have perhaps different aspects, which makes them not DELAY.

or they could be, the type that marriage is early like a juno pisces or juno 12th, and then first marriage will suck because of the bubble they are in.


so if its looking for maturity at a younger age, it's not possible with the millions of individuals in that age group to be mature.

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I have Juno Scorpio 1st house square Saturn Leo 11th house
but i remember you are doing good though. lol


but thanks for your input. Big Grin
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this is why Saturn in 7th delays, and why Saturn sometimes finds OLDER men/ women because that's the only types that are MATURE responsible enough.
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Posted by justagirl
Posted by lisabethur8
I was also wondering about houses too, but in bobmarks, he mentions that 7th house Saturn is not good, because of DELAYS.


and this is similar:



Juno Aspects Saturn: The partners will tend to be older (in spirit if not in actual years). With the harmonious aspects (sextile and trine) partners are likely to be solid, practical, and dependable, but, unless there are other indicators, don't expect them to be the life of the party. Conversely, partnership could bring out the solid, practical, and dependable side of you.The stressful aspects (conjunction, square, and opposition) may cause marriage to be delayed, or even denied. If you have this one, try not to get married before your first Saturn Return (which occurs around the age of twenty nine). Stressful aspects between Juno and Saturn can have a similar effect to Saturn placed in the 7th house. An early marriage (before the Saturn Return) will slowly decay until there is no affection left and the marriage collapses. Juno/Saturn stress aspects can also indicate someone who makes a bad marriage for "practical" reasons, such as security. They will also be prone to stay in a bad marriage to protest their social image, or because "a half a loaf is better than none." As if there is anything "practical" about having a bad marriage! These people have to learn to cut their losses and make a fresh start.



I have the conjunction- never been married sooooo. It's also opposite my ascendant lol

do you feel regrets?? that you never married? are you ok?


how do you feel about the future? you gonna be ok with what you have?


sorry for all the questions, but it's hard to wonder what it is like, so maybe some insights would help others.



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Regrets, sometimes but I am okay with it and it still might still happen. I still have hope. I love my life and what I have. The regrets I have is about no kids but who knows what life has in store and maybe I will be with someone that has kids and I would be a step mom or there is adoption. The fact that I'm 45 does play a role however and I've learned to accept it. I wonder how I would be if I had gotten married when I was 30, but life brought him back into my life this past year and it showed me I made the right choice 15 years ago. Hope that it's not too vague.


I know that I wouldn't have what I have in my life if I hadn't walked the path I have. I have defiantly learned to be truly independent and self sufficient.

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I have many stressful aspects with my Taurus Juno, it looks like. Maybe the low orb (up to 3 degrees, say) count only? I don't know how asteroids are usually viewed with orb allowance.


Juno conjunct Saturn - 3 degrees

Juno conjunct ascendant - 1 degree

Juno opposite sun - 0 degrees

Juno conjunct moon - 9 degrees

Juno opposite Venus - 6 degrees

Juno opposite Jupiter - 3 degrees

Juno opposite Mercury - 10 degrees

Juno opposite Neptune - 9 degrees
Do you feel what I've mentioned?


With stressful aspects, does it not

give you confidence as far as "seeing"

any real future for marriage? Or maybe

lack of or none existing marriage potential

within? I sound so negative but I don't know...
I don't know if it comes from my Juno, but definitely I have the awareness that I will likely never marry.


The harder part for me, because I don't wish to marry anyone legally so that doesn't bother me, is that I probably won't have the kind of romantic relationship I most would like, or not long term. Something realistic in me sees that. It doesn't mean I will never date or have any good relationships in my future - I sense that will happen - but I also have a sense that I won't be a person who finds that special match that some people find. To be fair, not many people do, not long term.


same questions apply to you too.


I've seen your photo, and you have such a very pleasant and easy going personality, and are quite lovely...


you seem like a woman who would be very available for many single men out there, I mean that your traits are attractive to them.


so you feel that you want this "ideal" type of relationship and because of that, it fails because of your realistic side comes in and you won't ever settle for less??


then you will most likely fall into the scenario where bobmarks astrology site mentions too, that you will just stay for the sake of staying because it's better than nothing??


which in truth it is better to be single because your own company is better than someone else who doesn't make you happy?

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I know you directed this at copper but it rings some truth for me too. I won't settle for less. When I was younger, I would but not anymore and I've tried and my mind is like wtf you doing. Lol


I have never understood staying with some own just to avoid being alone. That to me is co dependency... But maybe I just don't see that side of it and I seem cold. Dunno.

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Also, i am Cat Woman, hear me roar! a life of crime fighting at night alone.. Batman just needs to get his shit together and find me on my rooftop!


HEHE


Tbh, i dont let life get me down and i understand that not everyone ends up with someone or not everyone is meant to have kids. why would i let that sprial me down into depression?


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Posted by CopperDove
Posted by Ajna
Posted by CopperDove


I have many stressful aspects with my Taurus Juno, it looks like. Maybe the low orb (up to 3 degrees, say) count only? I don't know how asteroids are usually viewed with orb allowance.


Juno conjunct Saturn - 3 degrees

Juno conjunct ascendant - 1 degree

Juno opposite sun - 0 degrees

Juno conjunct moon - 9 degrees

Juno opposite Venus - 6 degrees

Juno opposite Jupiter - 3 degrees

Juno opposite Mercury - 10 degrees

Juno opposite Neptune - 9 degrees
Do you feel what I've mentioned?


With stressful aspects, does it not

give you confidence as far as "seeing"

any real future for marriage? Or maybe

lack of or none existing marriage potential

within? I sound so negative but I don't know...
I don't know if it comes from my Juno, but definitely I have the awareness that I will likely never marry.


The harder part for me, because I don't wish to marry anyone legally so that doesn't bother me, is that I probably won't have the kind of romantic relationship I most would like, or not long term. Something realistic in me sees that. It doesn't mean I will never date or have any good relationships in my future - I sense that will happen - but I also have a sense that I won't be a person who finds that special match that some people find. To be fair, not many people do, not long term.


same questions apply to you too.


I've seen your photo, and you have such a very pleasant and easy going personality, and are quite lovely...


you seem like a woman who would be very available for many single men out there, I mean that your traits are attractive to them.


so you feel that you want this "ideal" type of relationship and because of that, it fails because of your realistic side comes in and you won't ever settle for less??


then you will most likely fall into the scenario where bobmarks astrology site mentions too, that you will just stay for the sake of staying because it's better than nothing??


which in truth it is better to be single because your own company is better than someone else who doesn't make you happy?

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Thank you. smile


I'd rather be single than in a relationship that I'm not feeling content enough with, so I won't make the mistake of settling that the bob marks astrology site mentions thankfully. I made that mistake before in some ways, long ago, so I definitely don't want to repeat that.


I see myself dating, as I have done in the last few years, and having more romantic relationships (notice the plural) but my sense is that I will not have the kind of special connection with someone that lasts a long time. Not many people do. It isn't that I don't think that anyone would want me, it's about long term compatibility and also a special kind of connection that I have experienced with more than one person (so I know it exists, and I have it with some of my friends) combined with enough physical attraction to be more than friends.


It's hard to know for sure, and I may be wrong, but I think that maybe some people grow a lot in their relationships and when that growth is complete and can't go any further, the relationship has to end - maybe some people are on a continual path of change more than some so they are less likely to be in long term relationships.


I'm on good terms with most of my exes, and only one of my relationships ended in a truly shattering way (because the person was increasingly mentally ill). I've had two long term relationships (9 and 7 years) and in the first things became static, in the other there was too much change and chaos.


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Posted by lisabethur8
Posted by Ajna
Posted by Ram416
Posted by Ajna
Is there anyone here that feel like they will


not have a partner? Not to put things on a


depressed or negative perspective but more


of a none judgemental observational look at it.


These aspect and my life in general, has made

it seem like these challenges or no partner will

be the norm for the most part. Or maybe like

marriage is out of reach in this current life.


Me.


Seems like either unconventional relationships or even no relationships will be the norm for me. No marriage.


I feel this for me too but..


Maybe I'm coming at it wrong though?


Challenging aspects are to teach I guess

and not necassarly just instant doom and

failure I suppose. What aspects do you

have for juno?

you are not with anyone right now then?


I thought for sure you were. maybe I thought you were someone else.


so you feel too that someone unconventional is better for you, or rather a very unconventional type of marriage/ or maybe lack of marriage, but more a partnership?




My thoughts...



my love is with another...


the scent is probably so pungent...

what I give off here from that but nothing official...


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with marriage ~




I have a LOT of pisces and Sagittarius influences

so feelings towards my freedom is important.


marriage seems almost (idk) harmful to my

being. I would gladly devote all of me to

just one though; I think my moon shows

my interest and crave to merge and

give my all to just one but the practice

I'm not sure. Just being with another

is enough. The court system and

everything else I see unnecessary

digging into what "we" have and

what would be sacred is just

something I wouldn't look

foward to. Those things

wouldn't make it even

more official then what

it would already be.


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oh definitely. with a moon in fire, you definitely need someone more independent. but still be loyal and you are together with them. Not so clingy.
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Posted by justagirl
Posted by lisabethur8
Posted by CopperDove
Posted by Ajna
Posted by CopperDove


I have many stressful aspects with my Taurus Juno, it looks like. Maybe the low orb (up to 3 degrees, say) count only? I don't know how asteroids are usually viewed with orb allowance.


Juno conjunct Saturn - 3 degrees

Juno conjunct ascendant - 1 degree

Juno opposite sun - 0 degrees

Juno conjunct moon - 9 degrees

Juno opposite Venus - 6 degrees

Juno opposite Jupiter - 3 degrees

Juno opposite Mercury - 10 degrees

Juno opposite Neptune - 9 degrees
Do you feel what I've mentioned?


With stressful aspects, does it not

give you confidence as far as "seeing"

any real future for marriage? Or maybe

lack of or none existing marriage potential

within? I sound so negative but I don't know...
I don't know if it comes from my Juno, but definitely I have the awareness that I will likely never marry.


The harder part for me, because I don't wish to marry anyone legally so that doesn't bother me, is that I probably won't have the kind of romantic relationship I most would like, or not long term. Something realistic in me sees that. It doesn't mean I will never date or have any good relationships in my future - I sense that will happen - but I also have a sense that I won't be a person who finds that special match that some people find. To be fair, not many people do, not long term.


same questions apply to you too.


I've seen your photo, and you have such a very pleasant and easy going personality, and are quite lovely...


you seem like a woman who would be very available for many single men out there, I mean that your traits are attractive to them.


so you feel that you want this "ideal" type of relationship and because of that, it fails because of your realistic side comes in and you won't ever settle for less??


then you will most likely fall into the scenario where bobmarks astrology site mentions too, that you will just stay for the sake of staying because it's better than nothing??


which in truth it is better to be single because your own company is better than someone else who doesn't make you happy?



I know you directed this at copper but it rings some truth for me too. I won't settle for less. When I was younger, I would but not anymore and I've tried and my mind is like wtf you doing. Lol


I have never understood staying with some own just to avoid being alone. That to me is co dependency... But maybe I just don't see that side of it and I seem cold. Dunno.

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I would never be with someone I don't want to be with, wealthy poor, middle class, or whatever status, if I didn't love them, forget it. I understand that too. I don't like being alone, but I would rather be with my parents, or my sisters or family than be with someone I don't like either. I really dislike being independently alone though, so for me, I want to be with someone I love, but i'd rather be with my family than be with someone I don't love.

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Also, i am Cat Woman, hear me roar! a life of crime fighting at night alone.. Batman just needs to get his shit together and find me on my rooftop!


HEHE


Tbh, i dont let life get me down and i understand that not everyone ends up with someone or not everyone is meant to have kids. why would i let that sprial me down into depression?


that's extremely wise of you and you seem at peace with that. so very cool.


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So with all that being said..


Traditional marriage as far as

the state and or church making

it official is not favorable to me...


Unconventional marriage though

if that may mean marriage in the

way of me and my partner making

it official with some sort of celebration

and not anything else contruding then yes.


But marriage in general I don't see it or

feel it. Maybe this is something I should

meditate on and work with as far as my

belief and shifting that to be atleast plausible.


I DON'T KNOW lol....


It's just foreign



This may get me haters but to me it's Just a piece of paper..


When I'm with someone, for me its like I'm married , just no bullshit court if things go haywire. My commitment level is 100 and my partners have never had to question me or where we stood with each other.


Not saying I wouldn't get married or have a ceremony, i just don't feel it's "necessary" if that makes sense.

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So with all that being said..


Traditional marriage as far as

the state and or church making

it official is not favorable to me...


Unconventional marriage though

if that may mean marriage in the

way of me and my partner making

it official with some sort of celebration

and not anything else contruding then yes.


But marriage in general I don't see it or

feel it. Maybe this is something I should

meditate on and work with as far as my

belief and shifting that to be atleast plausible.


I DON'T KNOW lol....


It's just foreign

you are like Oprah and her pisces man, OR like the Pisces Kurt Russell with Goldie hawn (never married ) lol


weirdly although she's aqua sun, and goldie is 11th house sun, I don't agree with them. I love marriage and tradition.
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Posted by Ajna
So with all that being said..


Traditional marriage as far as

the state and or church making

it official is not favorable to me...


Unconventional marriage though

if that may mean marriage in the

way of me and my partner making

it official with some sort of celebration

and not anything else contruding then yes.


But marriage in general I don't see it or

feel it. Maybe this is something I should

meditate on and work with as far as my

belief and shifting that to be atleast plausible.


I DON'T KNOW lol....


It's just foreign



This may get me haters but to me it's Just a piece of paper..


When I'm with someone, for me its like I'm married , just no bullshit court if things go haywire. My commitment level is 100 and my partners have never had to question me or where we stood with each other.


Not saying I wouldn't get married or have a ceremony, i just don't feel it's "necessary" if that makes sense.

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nope, not at all. lots of couples live together. Just like what I mentioned in my last post.


maybe if Angelina Jolie (11th house sun) and Brad Pitt never married and went the "traditional" way, and just live together and on and off, Kind of like Cancer sun Artist, who is also 11th house sun, http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Frida_Kahlo who lived together separately with her Cap husband diego, I don't know if they are even married.

but I see a consistency here..


I"m not an 11th house sun that's for sure. lol and i'm not an 11th house moon either. double lol marriage and tradition are my thing.


but I like to see other people love what they love.
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I have many stressful aspects with my Taurus Juno, it looks like. Maybe the low orb (up to 3 degrees, say) count only? I don't know how asteroids are usually viewed with orb allowance.


Juno conjunct Saturn - 3 degrees

Juno conjunct ascendant - 1 degree

Juno opposite sun - 0 degrees

Juno conjunct moon - 9 degrees

Juno opposite Venus - 6 degrees

Juno opposite Jupiter - 3 degrees

Juno opposite Mercury - 10 degrees

Juno opposite Neptune - 9 degrees
Do you feel what I've mentioned?


With stressful aspects, does it not

give you confidence as far as "seeing"

any real future for marriage? Or maybe

lack of or none existing marriage potential

within? I sound so negative but I don't know...
I don't know if it comes from my Juno, but definitely I have the awareness that I will likely never marry.


The harder part for me, because I don't wish to marry anyone legally so that doesn't bother me, is that I probably won't have the kind of romantic relationship I most would like, or not long term. Something realistic in me sees that. It doesn't mean I will never date or have any good relationships in my future - I sense that will happen - but I also have a sense that I won't be a person who finds that special match that some people find. To be fair, not many people do, not long term.


same questions apply to you too.


I've seen your photo, and you have such a very pleasant and easy going personality, and are quite lovely...


you seem like a woman who would be very available for many single men out there, I mean that your traits are attractive to them.


so you feel that you want this "ideal" type of relationship and because of that, it fails because of your realistic side comes in and you won't ever settle for less??


then you will most likely fall into the scenario where bobmarks astrology site mentions too, that you will just stay for the sake of staying because it's better than nothing??


which in truth it is better to be single because your own company is better than someone else who doesn't make you happy?



Thank you. smile


I'd rather be single than in a relationship that I'm not feeling content enough with, so I won't make the mistake of settling that the bob marks astrology site mentions thankfully. I made that mistake before in some ways, long ago, so I definitely don't want to repeat that.


I see myself dating, as I have done in the last few years, and having more romantic relationships (notice the plural) but my sense is that I will not have the kind of special connection with someone that lasts a long time. Not many people do. It isn't that I don't think that anyone would want me, it's about long term compatibility and also a special kind of connection that I have experienced with more than one person (so I know it exists, and I have it with some of my friends) combined with enough physical attraction to be more than friends.


It's hard to know for sure, and I may be wrong, but I think that maybe some people grow a lot in their relationships and when that growth is complete and can't go any further, the relationship has to end - maybe some people are on a continual path of change more than some so they are less likely to be in long term relationships.


I'm on good terms with most of my exes, and only one of my relationships ended in a truly shattering way (because the person was increasingly mentally ill). I've had two long term relationships (9 and 7 years) and in the first things became static, in the other there was too much change and chaos.


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you said you go on romantic dates, is it kind of like, what I see in tv shows and films? sex and the city kind of dating, where women look for guys and size them up and then talk about the guys later. I like that show. lol

thanks for sharing.
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Posted by justagirl
Also, i am Cat Woman, hear me roar! a life of crime fighting at night alone.. Batman just needs to get his shit together and find me on my rooftop!


HEHE


Tbh, i dont let life get me down and i understand that not everyone ends up with someone or not everyone is meant to have kids. why would i let that sprial me down into depression?


that's extremely wise of you and you seem at peace with that. so very cool.


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I am now. When I was younger, not so much. But with age comes wisdom smile


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Posted by CopperDove
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Posted by Ajna
Posted by CopperDove


I have many stressful aspects with my Taurus Juno, it looks like. Maybe the low orb (up to 3 degrees, say) count only? I don't know how asteroids are usually viewed with orb allowance.


Juno conjunct Saturn - 3 degrees

Juno conjunct ascendant - 1 degree

Juno opposite sun - 0 degrees

Juno conjunct moon - 9 degrees

Juno opposite Venus - 6 degrees

Juno opposite Jupiter - 3 degrees

Juno opposite Mercury - 10 degrees

Juno opposite Neptune - 9 degrees
Do you feel what I've mentioned?


With stressful aspects, does it not

give you confidence as far as "seeing"

any real future for marriage? Or maybe

lack of or none existing marriage potential

within? I sound so negative but I don't know...
I don't know if it comes from my Juno, but definitely I have the awareness that I will likely never marry.


The harder part for me, because I don't wish to marry anyone legally so that doesn't bother me, is that I probably won't have the kind of romantic relationship I most would like, or not long term. Something realistic in me sees that. It doesn't mean I will never date or have any good relationships in my future - I sense that will happen - but I also have a sense that I won't be a person who finds that special match that some people find. To be fair, not many people do, not long term.


same questions apply to you too.


I've seen your photo, and you have such a very pleasant and easy going personality, and are quite lovely...


you seem like a woman who would be very available for many single men out there, I mean that your traits are attractive to them.


so you feel that you want this "ideal" type of relationship and because of that, it fails because of your realistic side comes in and you won't ever settle for less??


then you will most likely fall into the scenario where bobmarks astrology site mentions too, that you will just stay for the sake of staying because it's better than nothing??


which in truth it is better to be single because your own company is better than someone else who doesn't make you happy?



Thank you. smile


I'd rather be single than in a relationship that I'm not feeling content enough with, so I won't make the mistake of settling that the bob marks astrology site mentions thankfully. I made that mistake before in some ways, long ago, so I definitely don't want to repeat that.


I see myself dating, as I have done in the last few years, and having more romantic relationships (notice the plural) but my sense is that I will not have the kind of special connection with someone that lasts a long time. Not many people do. It isn't that I don't think that anyone would want me, it's about long term compatibility and also a special kind of connection that I have experienced with more than one person (so I know it exists, and I have it with some of my friends) combined with enough physical attraction to be more than friends.


It's hard to know for sure, and I may be wrong, but I think that maybe some people grow a lot in their relationships and when that growth is complete and can't go any further, the relationship has to end - maybe some people are on a continual path of change more than some so they are less likely to be in long term relationships.


I'm on good terms with most of my exes, and only one of my relationships ended in a truly shattering way (because the person was increasingly mentally ill). I've had two long term relationships (9 and 7 years) and in the first things became static, in the other there was too much change and chaos.




you said you go on romantic dates, is it kind of like, what I see in tv shows and films? sex and the city kind of dating, where women look for guys and size them up and then talk about the guys later. I like that show. lol

thanks for sharing.
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Not quite like that, but maybe I should try it? haha. smile I had a friend who dated in a way that was closer to what you see in Sex in the City and she loved the show and could relate to Carrie a lot.


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Posted by Ajna
Is there anyone here that feel like they will


not have a partner? Not to put things on a


depressed or negative perspective but more


of a none judgemental observational look at it.


These aspect and my life in general, has made

it seem like these challenges or no partner will

be the norm for the most part. Or maybe like

marriage is out of reach in this current life.


Me.


Seems like either unconventional relationships or even no relationships will be the norm for me. No marriage.


I feel this for me too but..


Maybe I'm coming at it wrong though?


Challenging aspects are to teach I guess

and not necassarly just instant doom and

failure I suppose. What aspects do you

have for juno?

you are not with anyone right now then?


I thought for sure you were. maybe I thought you were someone else.


so you feel too that someone unconventional is better for you, or rather a very unconventional type of marriage/ or maybe lack of marriage, but more a partnership?




My thoughts...



my love is with another...


the scent is probably so pungent...

what I give off here from that but nothing official...


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with marriage ~




I have a LOT of pisces and Sagittarius influences

so feelings towards my freedom is important.


marriage seems almost (idk) harmful to my

being. I would gladly devote all of me to

just one though; I think my moon shows

my interest and crave to merge and

give my all to just one but the practice

I'm not sure. Just being with another

is enough. The court system and

everything else I see unnecessary

digging into what "we" have and

what would be sacred is just

something I wouldn't look

foward to. Those things

wouldn't make it even

more official then what

it would already be.


oh definitely. with a moon in fire, you definitely need someone more independent. but still be loyal and you are together with them. Not so clingy.
My moon is in scorpio


Maybe I can send you my

chart and you can tell me what you

think?. Am I doomed? lol



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you can post them in chart interpretation forum and someone will get you there. or help you out.


and here too if you want. and nope, never doomed. lol

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