1st House Stellium

This topic was created in the Astrology forum by aquamila on Thursday, April 21, 2016 and has 43 replies.
Does anyone have this? And what exactly does it mean? Reading about each of my planets in the 1st still doesn't really explain what it means overall. I don't feel like my personality changes, nor that I am extremely self-centered (actually I rather struggle with hating selfishness in myself more than anything). I have my Moon, Mercury, Venus, and Neptune in I.
Can any of the astro-pros on here help me interpret? And if anyone else has it, what are your experiences or struggles? Or is it not such a bad thing after all?
for a first house stellium you sure don't feel very GANGBUSTERS.

I mean I feel the emotional kindness in you, and sweetness but you're not "Hey i'm gonna get what I want"

you seem more PASSIVE.


EDIT - for example your posts in the scorpio forum.

you just keep pussyfooting around with your man LDR.

I mean, that's PASSIVE.
you see this lady?

not passive.

aries dominant. with strong cancer influence.



Oh and the stellium is also in Capricorn, if that changes anything. My ascendent is in Sagittarius.
Posted by aquamila
Oh and the stellium is also in Capricorn, if that changes anything. My ascendent is in Sagittarius.

where's your mars?
Posted by lisabethur8
Posted by aquamila
Oh and the stellium is also in Capricorn, if that changes anything. My ascendent is in Sagittarius.

where's your mars?
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0° Pisces
You have Neptune in the first? Oh lady get ready for a life of projections.

I have a 1st house stellium (Saturn, Uranus, Neptune).

Upside: Many energies at play, things to "draw from" if that makes sense. Colorful, vivid.

Downside: Self-identity is hard to grasp, existential crisis every corner you turn.
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Posted by lisabethur8
Posted by aquamila
Oh and the stellium is also in Capricorn, if that changes anything. My ascendent is in Sagittarius.

where's your mars?

0° Pisces
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my sister has pisces mars.

she is with a good man!!

That is a VERY good placement. and you'll make some man happy. my sister's man is very very happy.

edit: this lady too, super cute and lovely!!! Emily blunt. she's happily married.

Posted by lisabethur8
for a first house stellium you sure don't feel very GANGBUSTERS.

I mean I feel the emotional kindness in you, and sweetness but you're not "Hey i'm gonna get what I want"

you seem more PASSIVE.


EDIT - for example your posts in the scorpio forum.

you just keep pussyfooting around with your man LDR.

I mean, that's PASSIVE.

That's because she needed Aries Mars to back up the 1st house stellium. Big Grin

Posted by lisabethur8
for a first house stellium you sure don't feel very GANGBUSTERS.

I mean I feel the emotional kindness in you, and sweetness but you're not "Hey i'm gonna get what I want"

you seem more PASSIVE.


EDIT - for example your posts in the scorpio forum.

you just keep pussyfooting around with your man LDR.

I mean, that's PASSIVE.

Well, I agree Lisa, I do think there is a difference though. I tend to put those I love before myself. And I am reeeally fixed on them and almost incapable of letting them go once they've gotten that special place in my heart. That does not however mean that I am passive.
That Mars for that stellium hmm...

It will freeze you in time, unsure on what energy to call upon. You need to shake it.
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Posted by lisabethur8
for a first house stellium you sure don't feel very GANGBUSTERS.

I mean I feel the emotional kindness in you, and sweetness but you're not "Hey i'm gonna get what I want"

you seem more PASSIVE.


EDIT - for example your posts in the scorpio forum.

you just keep pussyfooting around with your man LDR.

I mean, that's PASSIVE.

Well, I agree Lisa, I do think there is a difference though. I tend to put those I love before myself. And I am reeeally fixed on them and almost incapable of letting them go once they've gotten that special place in my heart. That does not however mean that I am passive.
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1st house is about self, you're looking at the 3th, 7th and 11th for others.

If you have Sag rising...is your Mars in the 3rd?

Posted by Damnata
Posted by lisabethur8
for a first house stellium you sure don't feel very GANGBUSTERS.

I mean I feel the emotional kindness in you, and sweetness but you're not "Hey i'm gonna get what I want"

you seem more PASSIVE.


EDIT - for example your posts in the scorpio forum.

you just keep pussyfooting around with your man LDR.

I mean, that's PASSIVE.

That's because she needed Aries Mars to back up the 1st house stellium. Big Grin


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lol Tongue

Angelina Jolie style.Laughing
Posted by lisabethur8
Posted by Damnata
Posted by lisabethur8
for a first house stellium you sure don't feel very GANGBUSTERS.

I mean I feel the emotional kindness in you, and sweetness but you're not "Hey i'm gonna get what I want"

you seem more PASSIVE.


EDIT - for example your posts in the scorpio forum.

you just keep pussyfooting around with your man LDR.

I mean, that's PASSIVE.

That's because she needed Aries Mars to back up the 1st house stellium. Big Grin



lol Tongue

Angelina Jolie style.Laughing
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It's Damnata style but fine...that could work too Tongue
Posted by aquamila
Posted by lisabethur8
for a first house stellium you sure don't feel very GANGBUSTERS.

I mean I feel the emotional kindness in you, and sweetness but you're not "Hey i'm gonna get what I want"

you seem more PASSIVE.


EDIT - for example your posts in the scorpio forum.

you just keep pussyfooting around with your man LDR.

I mean, that's PASSIVE.

Well, I agree Lisa, I do think there is a difference though. I tend to put those I love before myself. And I am reeeally fixed on them and almost incapable of letting them go once they've gotten that special place in my heart. That does not however mean that I am passive.
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but you go about it this way:

Mars in Pisces is gentle and mild. They get to the point in a round-about fashion. They tend to go with the flow. They prefer to let life just happen to them. They need a way to express themselves creatively, or they can create quite a mess through indirect aggression.



Pisces Mars may play games to get what they want, even though they may not know what it is they really want. Their emotions are unpredictable and intense. They run on emotions, in fact. They do well intellectually, but they may have problems dealing with physical and practical challenges.

Mars in Pisces is attracted to the arts, and may be very talented. They have the introspection necessary to create, as well as a sensitivity to color, rhythm and tone. They are often restless inside, while appearing calm on the surface. They may appear to be shy or withdrawn. They are very sensitive to their environment.

Mars in Pisces is romantic, though their needs are more emotional than physical. They are very idealistic about love. Sex is more like a fantasy. Their sensitivity helps them be very responsive to their partner. They need a lot of affection. Without it, they feel sex is cold and emotionless. They need an emotional connection to their partner to be fulfilled. Even better, they are ecstatic when they also have a spiritual connection with their partner.



They are very sensuous, and without the intimacy of lots of touching and romance, they are left feeling unloved. Their imagination is terrific, and they can indulge in a lot of romantic fantasies before they even go out with someone. They are willing to please, but they are not aggressive. They always play it passively. They can appear to be detached or spaced out. They like lots of details when they fantasize, creating intricate storylines and sidelines. They are attracted to those who need their care and


http://www.alwaysastrology.com/mars-in-pisces.html

in a general sense.
Posted by Damnata
You have Neptune in the first? Oh lady get ready for a life of projections.

I have a 1st house stellium (Saturn, Uranus, Neptune).

Upside: Many energies at play, things to "draw from" if that makes sense. Colorful, vivid.

Downside: Self-identity is hard to grasp, existential crisis every corner you turn.

Yes, I've made a post a while ago about that Neptune in I.
Can you try to explain what you mean with the energies to "draw from"?
I do notice a strong belief in "self" and identity if that makes sense. But not really a chameleon personality. Or maybe that's subconscious. I really can't tell.
I have all those soft, "female" planets in the 1st. Would that mean they complement each other, or are in harmony at least? Or does that make me just overall "soft" or, to not euphemize it, weak?
Damnata, my Mars is in II.
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Posted by aquamila
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Posted by aquamila
Oh and the stellium is also in Capricorn, if that changes anything. My ascendent is in Sagittarius.

where's your mars?

0° Pisces

my sister has pisces mars.

she is with a good man!!

That is a VERY good placement. and you'll make some man happy. my sister's man is very very happy.

edit: this lady too, super cute and lovely!!! Emily blunt. she's happily married.

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Oh I hope so! smile
Posted by aquamila
Can you try to explain what you mean with the energies to "draw from"?

Sure. I hope other 1st house stellium people answer too so don't take my words for gospel.

With me..I have Saturn Uranus and Neptune. I can tell the energies apart and how they play on people's perception of me. I know when someone interprets me as Saturnian, when they do as Uranian, when they do as Neptunian. Ideally, you should be able to make a blend of it.

"Moon, Mercury, Venus, and Neptune"

Moon and Venus...this should work well together in vibe....but if you add it with Neptune's influence on daydreaming...one downside would be idealizing people beyond reality. To be blunt, bordering on delusional.

Mercury is not a feminine planet, it's a hermaphrodite one. So you can get a half masculine essence from it. 1st house is masculine in nature so it clashes with the feminine moon, venus, neptune part. I would look at Mercury and prioritize it over the other 3. You need to exercise analysis and discrimination and watch your feelings closely. The pitfal of finding yourself in some abusive arrangement is big because feelings sway you. So backtrack to reality if you can in all interactions...even to the point of asking third parties how they see a situation.
Okay so to make it easier here's my chart
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Posted by Damnata
Posted by aquamila
Can you try to explain what you mean with the energies to "draw from"?

Sure. I hope other 1st house stellium people answer too so don't take my words for gospel.

With me..I have Saturn Uranus and Neptune. I can tell the energies apart and how they play on people's perception of me. I know when someone interprets me as Saturnian, when they do as Uranian, when they do as Neptunian. Ideally, you should be able to make a blend of it.

"Moon, Mercury, Venus, and Neptune"

Moon and Venus...this should work well together in vibe....but if you add it with Neptune's influence on daydreaming...one downside would be idealizing people beyond reality. To be blunt, bordering on delusional.

Mercury is not a feminine planet, it's a hermaphrodite one. So you can get a half masculine essence from it. 1st house is masculine in nature so it clashes with the feminine moon, venus, neptune part. I would look at Mercury and prioritize it over the other 3. You need to exercise analysis and discrimination and watch your feelings closely. The pitfal of finding yourself in some abusive arrangement is big because feelings sway you. So backtrack to reality if you can in all interactions...even to the point of asking third parties how they see a situation.
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Thank you Damnata, yes that makes sense.
So Mercury is convertible. I've read that it depends on which sign it is in, so in Cap it would be female wouldn't it?
I remembered reading somewhere that women marry or are with men who are IN the military, (because of the distance and long away occupation)
are women who have URANUS in the 7th house.

and you mentioned your man is in the military but avoiding the military to be in school??

You must have a strong 7th house then or something.

military men want or are drawn to women who are going to be OK with the woman being ALONE a lot. for months on end.

similar to your situation where you and him are already LDR for years, and then now, still on a standstill, of what to do.

this may continue for a very long time.
I mean ironically you are aquarius sun, but any sun sign has been married to MILITARY men, everywhere because there are thousands and thousands of women married to military men who go away.

edit - i'm not attracted to military men myself. I have an empty 7th.
Lisa, I'm not sure if what you're saying makes any sense. My Uranus is in the second house. And I also have no intention of marrying a military guy. I also wouldn't ever do the long distance shit again, if it doesn't work out with my Scorp.
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Lisa, I'm not sure if what you're saying makes any sense. My Uranus is in the second house. And I also have no intention of marrying a military guy. I also wouldn't ever do the long distance shit again, if it doesn't work out with my Scorp.

back. had to do work and run errands.

anyway, you are with a military guy right NOW aren't you?

you said he's in the military?

well you ARE IN the LDR crap, and it's been 2 entire years.

I wouldn't take even a couple months.

EDIT - there's another aqua sun super cap stellium here with 5th house stellium (also fire house) ironiclally....

also in the same boat as you in the past. sort of. now she's in a happier relationship.

she has a fire mars, so that should make her a GO-Getter /gang busters.

anyway, I would have hoped she would have seen this and help you out.

she's with a cap sun/libra moon. You should also be with someone libra dominant or libra personal planets or 7th house packed, because too you are very very polite and overtly so.
@lisabethur8 there is military conscription in Russia, which my boyfriend is trying to avoid by moving to my country. Was I so unclear?
It sounds like she could help me, do you remember her name by any chance? maybe you could tag her?
I don't see myself being overtly polite, nor would I take that for a bad thing, but I see that you jump to conclusions very quickly, and maybe overtly so.
Anyways I do appreciate your comments and help, thank you Lisa
Posted by aquamila
@lisabethur8 there is military conscription in Russia, which my boyfriend is trying to avoid by moving to my country. Was I so unclear?
It sounds like she could help me, do you remember her name by any chance? maybe you could tag her?
I don't see myself being overtly polite, nor would I take that for a bad thing, but I see that you jump to conclusions very quickly, and maybe overtly so.
Anyways I do appreciate your comments and help, thank you Lisa

no no, not jumping to conclusions at all.



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and you're quite welcome, very sweet polite lady.
well I don't know where the other girl is, but this is posted in the astrology forum which is more "open" to people looking in.


btw, I remember Angelina Jolie was married to Scorpio sun/Pisces moon, 7th house stellium libra. Jonny Lee Miller.

she always said such nice things about Jonny, how he is such a perfect gentlemen.

she said she just wasn't in a good place for marriage then. He is now married to a Gemini sun.

I love the look on his face when she's talking!!!!Laughing Big Grin Big Grin

its cute. Awww.
Oh I love the gemine/scorpio combo! One of the most inspiring couples I've known had these signs
Posted by aquamila
Oh I love the gemine/scorpio combo! One of the most inspiring couples I've known had these signs but yeah, they angelina and him look adorable too. I would almost say he looks a little intimidated by her though


Jolie has a "Maneater" vibe about her.

so "Certain" men want to try that. lol

Posted by aquamila
Oh I love the gemine/scorpio combo! One of the most inspiring couples I've known had these signs but yeah, they angelina and him look adorable too. I would almost say he looks a little intimidated by her though



she's also 11th houser, with 1st and 9th house dominant. Very strong energy, aquamila.

so it's a good theme to choose her because she IS a 1st houser, along with 9th.

http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Angelina_Jolie

Moon, Mars, Jupiter
Houses 9, 11, 1 / Fire, Water / Cardinal
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1st house = everyone sees it and/or you make it very visible. it's the conspicuous house. Conspicuously capricorny in all those planets.

Yes, I've come so far too, just what does it mean if I have three personal planets + neptune in the 1st house as opposed to having them spread out across the houses?
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Posted by aquamila
Oh I love the gemine/scorpio combo! One of the most inspiring couples I've known had these signs but yeah, they angelina and him look adorable too. I would almost say he looks a little intimidated by her though



she's also 11th houser, with 1st and 9th house dominant. Very strong energy, aquamila.

so it's a good theme to choose her because she IS a 1st houser, along with 9th.

http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Angelina_Jolie

Moon, Mars, Jupiter
Houses 9, 11, 1 / Fire, Water / Cardinal
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Oh yes, it's admirable. Love her sensuality and that passion in her eyes
Thought I'd come back to this lol
Any first housers around this time?
Saturn Uranus and Neptune in 1st house.. Not too sure what that means
I've heard the 1st house stellium as selfish/self centered but that's not true for me at all
Posted by BetaBanana
I've heard the 1st house stellium as selfish/self centered but that's not true for me at all

I also heard that, and it's not true for me either. I think it can go either way though, so that it can create a very low self-esteem and difficult relationship with oneself. But I don't think that is what characterizes a stellium
Girl I have super stellium- moon, venus, Mars, Neptune and Jupiter in 1st- Sag though.


I'm a firecracker Aquarius....

Or more so Saggiequarius!! I may be an aqua sun but I'm sag/Aries dominate.

Also from your chart looks like Mars is 3rd not 2nd house but it can possibly be read in both? My sun is like that - very end of 2nd and can be read for both houses.

Do people see you as a hot head or quick to anger? Your cap may calm some of that first house Aries energy, so perhaps not.

I'm an open book, heart on the sleeve and I can tend to take on what other percieve of me without even realizing it. Or more so when I was younger, now I realize who I am and people can take their projections and eat them.

The first house being me centric is not necessarily about being selfish/ it can be about putting others before yourself at all costs, in a very selfish way. Being selfless too a fault.

Please hope that helps even a tiny bit.

Oh and a stellium is 3 or more planets in the same house. Can intensify that particular houses/ signs energy and the aspects within your chart.
@justagirl Hey girl *waves*
so it's more about the sign huh? I am definitely not quick-tempered or hot-headed. If anything people usually comment on the way I keep cool at all times lol

The projection thing rings true for me, but I thought that was a Neptune thing specifically Sad I actually noticed that for the first time not long ago, when people kept telling me how they think I am, being absolutely wrong about it. I was so confused, like, did I really give them THAT impression!?

Oh and selfless to a fault, that sounds like me lol. I definitely do that.

That helped a lot! thank you Kiss
Yea that is the Neptune "thing" lol

I am not sure how it all works, both myself and Nata have sag stellium with fire moons so we are very much that Aries energy, her moreso because she's Aries moon.

You are cap moon? No wonder you come across calm/cool lol I'd rather a cap stellium speak up on how that energy plays out, but I am surpirsed you aren't somewhat firey energy with it in the 1st house.

I think we have a few floating around.
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Yea that is the Neptune "thing" lol

I am not sure how it all works, both myself and Nata have sag stellium with fire moons so we are very much that Aries energy, her moreso because she's Aries moon.

You are cap moon? No wonder you come across calm/cool lol I'd rather a cap stellium speak up on how that energy plays out, but I am surpirsed you aren't somewhat firey energy with it in the 1st house.

I think we have a few floating around.

Mars and Aries are actually on spot 3 of my dominant planets and signs respectively. I don't feel it much though. I definitely come across more earthy with 34% against 21% fire.

Well I don't know Big Grin

What I recently read, is that a person with a 1st house stellium "would represent a person who had a lot of help and/or hindrances in learning who they were", assuming that the first house in our chart, and everything that is in it, represents "the personality traits that you cultivated and developed on your own due to your family, your surroundings, and your upbringing".
Can you relate to that?