Are You Dignified, Strong or Exhalted?

This topic was created in the Astrology forum by caligula on Saturday, September 25, 2010 and has 26 replies.
Exalted: said of a planet in its strongest, most creative sign placement: the sign of its Exaltation. Here it can express its energy in its highest, most positive form.
Sun in Aries
Moon in Taurus
Mercury in Aquarius
Venus in Pisces
Mars in Capricorn
Jupiter in Cancer
Saturn in Libra.
Exaltation is not particularly significant for the outer planets.


Dignified: said of a planet in a sign it rules. Here it most freely, naturally and powerfully expresses its energy; and, if a personal planet, is a dominant force in the whole chart.
ie Venus rules both Taurus and Libra so...
Venus in Taurus is dignified making the affections strong, steadfast, physical, slow to develop, stable, reliable, conservative, and placid. One has a love of beauty, pleasure, comfort, nature, wealth, possessions, eating, music, art, and sculpture. One is often beautiful, attractive, kind, and well-liked.
Venus in Libra is dignified making the affections harmonious, balanced, fair, beautiful, sensitive, graceful, cooperative, expressive, tender, and kind. One loves beauty, harmony, balance, justice, partnership and marriage, the arts, and literature. Esthetic appreciation can be well developed, and one usually likes to compromise and cooperate rather than have conflict.

Strong: said of a dignified, exalted, well-aspected or angular planet; or, of an aspect (even a minor one) that is close to exact.
Mercury in Aquarius woot woot!
One of each, I suppose that balances things out.
i'm guessing that "strong" is based on the planet's position with respect to others...ie if it's conjunct, trine or sextile?

Mercury in Aquarius is exalted making the mind scientific, inventive, original, strong, detached, theoretical, idealistic, and humanitarian. Thoughts tend to be clever, witty, eccentric, radical, dialectical, synthetic, perceptive, and socially conscious. The mind is psychological and likes to study people and social issues, often having very advanced ideas.

for me...
Mars in Aries is dignified and is forceful, active, courageous, self-assured, independent, direct, enterprising, and industrious. Desires are strong, ardent, impetuous. One is usually self-motivating, individualistic, adventurous, exploring, pioneering, frank, impulsive, masculine, and aggressive or assertive. One likes to start new things and often wants to be the leader.
and most astrologers also agree that mercury isn't virgo's true ruler so that totally negates the above premise.
leave it to a virgo to get it twisted. one would think that if a theory has held true for Stars2000Stars years according to the virgin that that would suffice but noooooo, everyone is wrong and virgo is right.
*shakes head*
well then GENIUS!, if there is no basis to reject the co-rulership, there is also no reason whatsoever to reject the FACT that mercury is exalted in aquarius. the only reason to do so would be to feed you ego.
to sit here and debate what is widely accepted is asinine. i could debate the true ruler of any co-ruled sign and therein lies the point.
maybe you should try reading texts not written by other virgins? doing so only reinforces your psychosis.
And Mercury isn't virgo's true ruler. Point?
We can argue the validity of mercury in reference to virgo all day but at the end of the day, it is what it is and to negate what is widely accepted means what? Oh I know...
That potentially mercury is exalted in virgo AND that virgo does NOT have a ruler which explains why your sign is psychotic as all it's doing is mimicking the behavior of another sign as does a psychopath mimic the behaviors of sane human beings.
There are those who believe that insane people operate on another mental plane. Savants are often afflicted by mental illness. So you know, you take the exaltation and the psychosis. They both suit you. Congrats!
The Sun and Moon each rule one sign a piece, Leo and Cancer. These are the focal point by which the other planets calibrate their rulerships. The other planets rule two signs a piece, a negative and positive polarity sign. Mercury rules Gemini (the sign next to Cancer) and Virgo (the sign next to Leo). There there, Venus rules Libra (the sign next to Virgo) and Taurus (the sign next to Gemini). Following this pattern it is easy to find the rulerships. Uranus, Neptune and Pluto were unknown when the original rulerships were found, so the consideration that these generational outer planets actually rule any of the signs is dubious, in my opinion.
Believe what you will though, I couldn't care less about arguing this.
I have Mercury exalted in Aquarius.. I hate to dredge this up again, but the airy mercurian energies are much better suited to the airy energies, traits & (flexibility) of Aquarius. Mercury (air planet) is a natural fit with Aquarius (air sign). And through my own readings and observations, i would have to agree wholeheartedly.
Tradition for tradition's-sake isn't the end all and be all of astrology, since we will (always) be discovering, learning and growing to some extent. Most traditions are to be respected and will never change, but there are those with loose-ends. Jupiter was once Pisces sole-ruler (and back then, pisceans actually did have many more jupterian traits.) And then modern planet Neptune was discovered as official ruler of Pisces. Who knows, maybe someday Virgo (vulcan?) and Taurus will have their own rulers, and someday this may become tradition. At any rate, it's fun to speculate..
I also have:
Saturn - accidentally Dignified by sign & by house.
Jupiter - accidentally Dignified by sign & by house.
MARS is strong in Leo & strong by Triplicity ..
VENUS is strong by 10th house Angularity & conjuncts the MC
Aside from the 4 angular houses, the rest of my natal houses are dignified by sign-cusp.
I have no planetary Detriments or Falls; the rest being neutral.
yeeaaaaaah, i find it hard to believe that a planet beyond "pluto" rules the one sign that is truely fixed and closest to home. it would make us far more obscure than we truly are...not to mention we are a feminine sign and libra is not.
at the end of the day, if you dispute the "true" ruler of one co-ruled sign, you dispute them all and thereby invalidate astrology. after all, if pluto isn't a planet, why even argue this shit? why not admit that it's all crap now and call it a day?
Posted by Shaka_laka_boomboom
Mercury can't express its qualities fully in a FIXED sign. This is a fundamental idea. Mercury's nature is about versatility and duality.



shaks is right because when you think about it mercury in virgo is practical creating things with your hands which virgos are very good at mercury in virgo is also the alchemist the magician.

i also found a answer like this also in a old forum website.

"One thing that's interesting to note is that in Vedic astrology Mercury relates to the element of earth, while most" Western astrologers consider it related to the element of air. My understanding is that Mercury is the manifester, like the Magician card in the tarot. Mercury brings all the ingredients together in order to make something. Mercury translates an idea into a physical manifestation. Mercury is about the diversity of creation, but also Mercury is the great unifier. In Vedic tradition, Mercury relates to the deity Vishnu, who is the all-pervasive aspect of god. Mercury creates multiplicity and can see the differences between things, but Mercury also remembers that it's really all one thing. With this understanding of Mercury, it's clear that Virgo is Mercury's exaltation sign.
The exaltations are part of the knowledge of traditional astrology that were forgotten by modern astrology. Modern astrologers usually are too busy trying to remove rulership from one of the 7 traditional planets to even bother to learn this old system. But as with the other dignities (triplicities, terms, faces), it is time well spent.
To help the reader to remember, the traditional exaltations of the 7 planets are:
* Aries is the exaltation of the Sun
* Taurus is the exaltation of the Moon
* Cancer is the exaltation of Jupiter
* Virgo is the exaltation of mercury (Warning!!!! Bad books of modern astrology changed recently this exaltation into aquarius! If you want to ignore the tradition and bet in authors with poor knowledge, do it at your own risk!)
* Libra is the exaltation of Saturn
* Capricorn is the exaltation of Mars
* Pisces is the exaltation of Venus
Unfortunately no one really knows why the exaltations are where they are. Contemporary followers of Hellenistic astrology like the hypothesis of the Thema Mundi. Unfortunately, the Thema Mundi was a greek invention, and academic sources states that the exaltations were probably older. In fact, they could be older than the greek conception of rulerships of the zodiac.
So, no scheme that pretends to ???explain?? the exaltations can be based on the rulerhips. So, why I am doing exactly this? Just for fun, really! It is always a joyful opportunity for an student of astrology to explore the infinite symmetries in our symbols.
Rules of Exaltation
I use a finite and logical set of rules to relate the signs of exaltation to the ones of rulership.
Yes, I know, there are only seven exaltations, and my rules are arbitrary. Ok. Now, let??s have some fun.
Rule 1- the exaltation of a planet should be in sextile or trine one of its domiciles, so they would have some sort of affinity or agreement.
Rule 2 ??? Diurnal planets (Sun, Jupiter and Saturn), will like trines to one of their domiciles.
Rule 3- Nocturnal planets (Moon, Venus and Mars) will like sextiles to one of their domiciles.
Rule 4 ??? Diunal planets will like to have their exaltation counting from their diurnal sign (example, the diurnal domicile of Saturn is Aquarius)
Rule 5 ??? Nocturnal planets will like to have their exaltation counting from their nocturnal sign (example, the nocturne domicile of Venus is Taurus)
Rule 6 ??? Planets will ???cast?? the trine or sextile in dexter aspect, meaning, against the order of the signs.
Rule 7 ??? If the sign is already the exaltation of a planet, we will try the sinister aspect.
Rule 8 ??? If none of these two signs are free, we will try the other aspect (trine or sextile). But as we are reversing the nature of the planet, we will also reverse the aspect and use the sinister aspect.
Exceptions
Hmmmm, just 7 planets, but 8 rules, and we need exceptions? Unfortunately we do. There are two exceptions to make the system symmetrical:
Exception 1 -The house of the sun can??t have exaltations ??? In the house of a king, no one can receive greater honors than the King himself!
Exception 2 ??? Mercury is neither diurnal or noctunal.
With these two exceptions, we can now play!
Exaltations from rulerships
The sun will be our first candidate. After all, he is the King!!
Sun
The sun is a diurnal planet. He only has one domicile, Leo. He is diurnal so he will ???cast a trine?? in dexter order (against the order of signs) and that will fall in Aries. The exaltation of the sun is in Aries. So far, so good!
Moon
The moon is the queen so she is next. Moon is a nocturnal planet. She only has one domicile, Cancer. She is nocturnal, so she sill like a sextile. The sextile against the order of signs is in Taurus. Ok!
Mercury
The next domicile after the luminars are those of mercury, gemini and virgo. But mercury is neither diurnal or nocturne as stated on ???exception 2??_! So, what to do? Let??s cheat and use the conjunction instead! So, we will put mercury??s exaltation in one of his domiciles. But which one? Although 9 in 10 modern astrologers would put mercury in gemini, in ancient tradition mercury was considered to be ???cold and dry??, and so to share the nature of the element earth. So, virgo wins over Gemini, and Virgo will be the exaltation of Mercury.
Venus
The next domiciles are those of Venus, Taurus and Libra. Taurus is the nocturnal domicile of a nocturnal planet (venus), so her exaltation will be a sextile from taurus, in the sign of Pisces.
Mars
The domiciles of mars are aries and scorpio. Mars is nocturnal, so we will use the nocturnal domicile of scorpio. A sextile will fall in virgo.
But wait a minute! Virgo is already occupied! So, by rule 7, we have to use the other sextile from scorpio! This will fall in Capricorn, which as we know, is the exaltation of mars.
Whew, that was close!
Jupiter
Finally we reached the great benefic, but our problems have just began!
Jupiter is a diurnal planet, so we will cast a dexter trine from his diurnal domicile (Sagittarius). Unfortunately this will fall on Leo. Remember exception 1? The damn Sun will not share his toys with anyone!
No problem! We will do the same we did mars, and take the sinister aspects, which fall in Aries, the exaltation of the Sun. Damn the sun again!
In desperation we have to take the nocturnal domicile of Jupiter, Pisces, and cast a trine.
But wait, as we are reversing Jupiter??s diurnal nature by casting a trine from his nocturnal domicile (pisces) let??s also reverse the direction of the aspect. Instead of the dexter aspect, that would go to scorpio, let??s take the sinister one to Cancer.
As your math teacher would say, two negatives make a positive.
Saturn
The old great malefic is a no
Saturn
The old great malefic is a no brainer. He is diurnal. His diurnal domicile is Aquarius. He is diurnal, so he likes trines. The dexter trine from Aquarius is in Libra. Libra is the exaltation of Saturn.
you are NEVER outside of that rat's nest and you come here to bolster what i said about you sick fucks all along. go back to where you belong and stop spitting this bile you psychotic bastard.
oh, and use the google...cipher through the results...and mercury's exaltation is evident.
i LOATHE stupid, arrogant fucks.
ok, madmen has gone off so now i can address this stupidity. based on what these numbnuts would have you believe, EVERY planet sans mercury is exalted in a sign that is not the traditional ruler of said planet. in his own words...

Posted by LeGendary ViRGo
To help the reader to remember, the traditional exaltations of the 7 planets are:
* Aries is the exaltation of the Sun
* Taurus is the exaltation of the Moon
* Cancer is the exaltation of Jupiter
* Virgo is the exaltation of mercury (Warning!!!! Bad books of modern astrology changed recently this exaltation into aquarius! If you want to ignore the tradition and bet in authors with poor knowledge, do it at your own risk!)
* Libra is the exaltation of Saturn
* Capricorn is the exaltation of Mars
* Pisces is the exaltation of Venus




so pay attention folks because the virgos and all of astrology agrees on the following...
the SUN is ruled by leo and yet is exalted in ARIES
the MOON is ruled by cancer and yet is exalted in TAURUS
JUPITER is ruled by sag and yet is exalted in CANCER
SATURN is ruled by capricorn and yet is exalted in LIBRA
MARS is ruled by aries and yet is exalted in CAPRICORN
VENUS is ruled by taurus and yet is exalted in PISCES

but mercury? mercury is "special." mercury defies the above logic. mercury does not follow this pattern because it can't follow this pattern because virgos don't want it to. fucking psychos.
Mercury is ruled by GEMINI and yet is exalted in its secondary ruler virgo???
HORSE SHIT!
source: http://www.enchantedspirit.org/Astrology/Instant_Messenger/Mercury-in-Aquarius-2.php

Those that decide these things tell us Mercury is exalted in Aquarius. A planet in exaltation is in a sign which it does not rule but in which it is very comfortable. The natural expression of the planet ... the metaphors of its meaning ... find easy expression, certainly in the sign (or signs) it rules, but also in the sign of its exaltation. A planet in the sign it rules is like a person, safe in the home he owns, the lord of his own land, domicile and family circle. Literally, the king (or queen) of the castle.
A planet in exaltation is like a person in the home of his closest friend -- a place where his presence is honored, where he feels welcome, where his opinions and talents are free to shine ... where he can be exactly who he is and even raid the refrigerator!! A planet in exaltation is "almost as strong," almost "at home" ... and certainly able to let his best self shine because he and the qualities of the sign are compatible. They get along beautifully and are perfectly happy in one another's company. The freedom to be yourself, after all, is a perfectly wonderful thing.
Want some examples? Well, The Sun rules Leo ... and is exalted in Aries. The Moon rules Cancer ... and is exalted in Taurus. Saturn rules Capricorn and is exalted in Libra. Mercury rules two signs -- Gemini and Virgo, and is, as I said, exalted in Aquarius. Since Uranus is the higher octave of Mercury ... and Uranus rules Aquarius, you can certainly see the connection. Mercury sparkles with special brilliance when it passes through -- or is Natally placed in this cerebral and creative sign.
This blend of intellectual energy is impersonal, detached, unemotional, ingenious and scientific. It can be even more intense and high-strung (can you believe it??) than Mercury in Gemini or Virgo. It practically hums from the bustle and business of everything it has going on ... all the time. In a cold, clear silence, you can virtually hear the high notes of its special song. Beneath all that sometimes erratic mental energy lives the mind of a true social pioneer, future thinking, progressive, advanced and ahead of his time.
This blend is always matched with either a Sun in Capricorn, a Sun in Pisces ... or Sun in Aquarius. It's presence there is brilliant, luminous -- and always marks an innovative thinker, a progressive soul ... a mind one step ahead of most of the rest of us ... and even ahead of its time.
It learns what it knows by insight and intuition as much as academics. It has its own unique "take" on life ... and sometimes can't be bothered trying to explain to the rest of us what all is going on in its mind. But trust me, the gears are always turning -- and if you feel especially energized these days, fired up and full of ideas, particularly now that Mercury is retrograde ... I'd point to this as maybe the reason why. As it happens, that's where it is now.

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at the end of the day, people will twist what is readily apparent to suit their aims and a virgo will shove its head up its own ass not matter how bad the stench is.
A casual observation - why does it seem like Scorpio positions, get the short end of the stick in these exaltations/dignifications?
cause you're vermin.
your anus is exalted in scorpio.
*yawns*

since your to stupid to truly understand what mercury represent and how it's connected to virgo here's the info.


MERCURY
If we picture the orbits of the planets as concentric spheres around the sun, the orbit of Mercury is the first sphere through which the out-surging solar power radiates as it spreads throughout the solar system. Mercury thus represents the first planetary adaptation or specialization of solar power. It refracts, as it were, the one, homogeneous solar stream into two facets or rays. Thus, out of the unitary solar purpose, duality is born.
For human beings on Earth, mind and consciousness arise and develop on the basis of just such a duality, for in order to be aware, 'I' must perceive an 'other' who (or which) is 'not I.' Mercury symbolizes this primordial perception of duality, and once it occurs the function of Mercury is forever to try to link the two at the mental level.
Mercury's realm is the sphere of perceptions and ideas, of words which symbolize experience and minds which try to integrate experience into a meaningful whole. Thus Mercury symbolizes gathering data and information, knowing, formulating at the verbal level, communicating, listening, and rational decision-making.
Fleet as the quicksilver intellect which it symbolizes, fickle as an easily changeable mind, Mercury's functional activities can be misapplied. Negative applications of what Mercury represents include equivocating, rationalizing, intellectual superficiality, blabbing on and on, and disorganized eclecticism.
MERCURY IN VIRGO
Keynote: The mind functions in a detailed, systematic manner.
Symbol: A mailman delivers letters to various offices in a large building.
In Virgo, the duality of Gemini subdivides into a multiplicity. The Mercurial Virgoan can skillfully cope with a vast assortment of details. This is an exemplary sign position for Mercury, which both rules and is exalted in Virgo. The pragmatism of the sign effectively grounds the airy diffusiveness of the planet and directs its force into suitable channels of expression.
While Mercury in its positive sign Gemini flits like a butterfly from one intriguing idea to the next, Mercury in Virgo is pinned down to a solid surface of facts which can be microscopically studied, labeled, and preserved for posterity. Such precision may be hard on the butterfly, but the cause of human knowledge is advanced.
Since Virgo rules the digestive system, Mercury therein imparts the ability to digest information. The intellect is less innovative than adaptive, endeavoring to find out where everything fits, glorifying physical fitness, and wanting people to behave fittingly. This compartmentalization of functions is fine from a utilitarian point of view, but the compulsion to be correct can inhibit the mind from reaching higher intuitive realms where differences fade and opposites blend.
The old saying, "the mind is a good servant but a poor master," is confirmed by the assignation of Mercury to the sign of service. The Virgoan Mercury is useful to the extent that it is disciplined, controlled, and kept "in its place." While propitious for scholarly research, it is less well suited to the inductive process of reasoning on which the broader application of knowledge depends.
Writers with Mercury in Virgo often produce books replete with voluminous data, formidably buttressed with footnotes and erudite references. Yet they are reluctant to integrate their mosaic bits of facts into the larger picture.
A debilitating lack of confidence, to which most Virgoans are prone because of their strongly self-critical faculty, can lead to unwillingness to take a strong stand on any fundamental issue. Someone else ??? probably a fire-sign person ??? generally has to be the one to assert, "This I believe."
Mercury in Virgo can dissect with precision or desiccate with unending revisions. If the vital juices have been sapped by excessive ratiocination, scholarship degenerates into dull pedantry.
now post it for gemini
and post it for aquarius
as i said, your argument is illogical and if you want to be wrong, you're entitled to it. doesn't negate the fact nor does it alter reality.
you know you're wrong. if it doesn't make sense, it doesn't. a sign is not exalted within its ruler. is it comfortable there? does it behave best there? are its aspects maximized there? totally different questions. but exaltation by definition? NO!
when you pull your head out, you'll find the air is clear and refreshing...mercury in aqua exalted air that is.

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