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Posted by HappyCapperYou're free to express the chart however you want. Plus it's a map of a person's entire life, so naturally everything wouldn't be active at the same time. This is why we care about transits and progressions.
I, for one, think my chart is a scary good description of myself, but I'm still not satisfied. For instance, I don't carry every single trait of every single placement. Maybe I modulated it in my mind to make it work, because I subconsciously wanted it to work?
Sag, huh? I'm a Vedic Sag too.
If we both gain weight, knowledge and have random outdoor sex with a physical training or teacher or some kind, I think the experiment would be a success.
i'll play. i now have a capricorn moon, venus and ascendant in cancer and mars and mercury in gemini.
@happycapper, then wouldn't you be an Aquarius in sidereal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidereal_and_tropical_astrology
Aries.svg Aries April 15 – May 15 March 21 – April 20 April 18 – May 13
Taurus.svg Taurus May 16 – June 15 April 21 – May 21 May 13 – June 21
Gemini.svg Gemini June 16 – July 15 May 22 – June 21 June 21 – July 20
Cancer.svg Cancer July 16 – August 15 June 22 – July 22 July 20 – August 10
Leo.svg Leo August 16 – September 15 July 23 – August 22 August 10 – September 16
Virgo.svg Virgo September 16 – October 15 August 23 – September 22 September 16 – October 30
Libra.svg Libra October 16 – November 15 September 23 – October 22 October 30 – November 23
Scorpio.svg Scorpio November 16 – December 15 October 23 – November 21 November 23 – November 29
Ophiuchus zodiac.svg Ophiuchus N/A November 29 – December 17
Sagittarius.svg Sagittarius December 16 – January 14 November 22 – December 21 December 17 – January 20
Capricorn.svg Capricorn January 15 – February 14 December 22 – January 20 January 20 – February 16
Aquarius.svg Aquarius February 15 – March 14 January 21 – February 19 February 16 – March 11
Pisces.svg Pisces March 15 – April 14 February 19 – March 20 March 11 – April 18
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidereal_and_tropical_astrology
Aries.svg Aries April 15 – May 15 March 21 – April 20 April 18 – May 13
Taurus.svg Taurus May 16 – June 15 April 21 – May 21 May 13 – June 21
Gemini.svg Gemini June 16 – July 15 May 22 – June 21 June 21 – July 20
Cancer.svg Cancer July 16 – August 15 June 22 – July 22 July 20 – August 10
Leo.svg Leo August 16 – September 15 July 23 – August 22 August 10 – September 16
Virgo.svg Virgo September 16 – October 15 August 23 – September 22 September 16 – October 30
Libra.svg Libra October 16 – November 15 September 23 – October 22 October 30 – November 23
Scorpio.svg Scorpio November 16 – December 15 October 23 – November 21 November 23 – November 29
Ophiuchus zodiac.svg Ophiuchus N/A November 29 – December 17
Sagittarius.svg Sagittarius December 16 – January 14 November 22 – December 21 December 17 – January 20
Capricorn.svg Capricorn January 15 – February 14 December 22 – January 20 January 20 – February 16
Aquarius.svg Aquarius February 15 – March 14 January 21 – February 19 February 16 – March 11
Pisces.svg Pisces March 15 – April 14 February 19 – March 20 March 11 – April 18
My Sidreal chart fits me better than I would have expected, except for how it gives me an Aries rising and eliminates all Sag from my chart.
But not enough to switch.
Vedic is supposedly better for looking at fate, rather than personality.
But not enough to switch.
Vedic is supposedly better for looking at fate, rather than personality.
Posted by ElleDuMondeYes, definitely. Correlations but not looked at in the same way. I had vedic done professionally too and it's very much about fate/life events unfolding. The astrologer who did the reading does both Western and Vedic astrology for personality and fate respectively.Posted by CopperDoveThis.
Vedic is supposedly better for looking at fate, rather than personality.
That's why you can't read them the same.
My Vedic states I'm a libra with a pisces moon.
My Western is Scorpio sun with an aries moon......with a libra stellium in my 12th house.
There are correlations....but....you can't read them in the same manner because then things start to disconnect.
A description of a libra with a pisces moon is different than a libra stellium in the 12th house....but they still have some similarities.
I don't even know how to explain myself....lol.
I had a vedic done professionally......and I can *see* in my head how they are different...but I can't find the words to explain it.
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I still have Scorpio Sun in Sidereal, but my Moon and other planets changed signs and houses.
Posted by TrueFantasyYes 🙂 Why?Posted by fallendarkangelAre those your eyes?
I still have Scorpio Sun in Sidereal, but my Moon and other planets changed signs and houses.click to expand
Posted by TrueFantasyThank you TrueFantasy 🙂 Really appreciate it!Posted by fallendarkangelThey're very pretty 🙂Posted by TrueFantasyYes 🙂 Why?Posted by fallendarkangelAre those your eyes?
I still have Scorpio Sun in Sidereal, but my Moon and other planets changed signs and houses.
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Posted by tizianiThanks!🙂
Good luck! I remember DwellingOnMove tried this for something like two weeks or a month. Can't remember exactly how long.
Ooo! Interesting! Calling @DwellingOnMove ! 🙂
Posted by SirHornsYes, but if you could take just any chart to fit anyone with a little stretching and bending, astrology is major fail. I do agree that you need to count on personal progress - I have personally changed quite a bit since I was born. 😄 But I think it's quite interesting to ask my parents questions about how I was when I was really young and see that it fits my chart really really well at that age too...even though I've changed. Weird.Posted by HappyCapperYou're free to express the chart however you want. Plus it's a map of a person's entire life, so naturally everything wouldn't be active at the same time. This is why we care about transits and progressions.
I, for one, think my chart is a scary good description of myself, but I'm still not satisfied. For instance, I don't carry every single trait of every single placement. Maybe I modulated it in my mind to make it work, because I subconsciously wanted it to work?
Sag, huh? I'm a Vedic Sag too.
If we both gain weight, knowledge and have random outdoor sex with a physical training or teacher or some kind, I think the experiment would be a success.
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Ooo! Cool! But not the weight, though! Haven't you heard: sags are very competitive and love sports(you know, like bow hunting,) so I say, we will both be super fit after this.😄 *nods and crosses fingers*
Posted by clareYaY!😄
i'll play. i now have a capricorn moon, venus and ascendant in cancer and mars and mercury in gemini.
What did you have before?
Love this thread!! I am really interested in sidereal
Sag sun suits you I think...
I'd be Pisces Sun and Venus, Gemini Moon, Aqua Mercury and Mars, Libra Rising 😄 Did my wit got blown away by all this air or what? I shall say, however, that on new moon and all the way while it grows I become particularly spirited and talkative... but that's all about it. hehe
Sag sun suits you I think...
I'd be Pisces Sun and Venus, Gemini Moon, Aqua Mercury and Mars, Libra Rising 😄 Did my wit got blown away by all this air or what? I shall say, however, that on new moon and all the way while it grows I become particularly spirited and talkative... but that's all about it. hehe
Posted by TrueFantasyVirgo to leo is quite a change! Cool! And a looot of water! 😄
I would be a Leo sun, Leo moon, Virgo Mercury, cancer Venus and Mars (WATERRRRRRRRRR FINALLY) with a sag rising and libra MC.
Because it's Leo season I'll try lol
How do you feel about your sag rising?
Posted by lisabethur8Not according to astro.com. I was born between December 16 and January 14, which would make me a Sagittarius. Would you go Capricorn in sidereal(you can see the entire chart at astro.com if you click sidereal instead of tropical) or how would it look for you?
@happycapper, then wouldn't you be an Aquarius in sidereal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidereal_and_tropical_astrology
Aries.svg Aries April 15 – May 15 March 21 – April 20 April 18 – May 13
Taurus.svg Taurus May 16 – June 15 April 21 – May 21 May 13 – June 21
Gemini.svg Gemini June 16 – July 15 May 22 – June 21 June 21 – July 20
Cancer.svg Cancer July 16 – August 15 June 22 – July 22 July 20 – August 10
Leo.svg Leo August 16 – September 15 July 23 – August 22 August 10 – September 16
Virgo.svg Virgo September 16 – October 15 August 23 – September 22 September 16 – October 30
Libra.svg Libra October 16 – November 15 September 23 – October 22 October 30 – November 23
Scorpio.svg Scorpio November 16 – December 15 October 23 – November 21 November 23 – November 29
Ophiuchus zodiac.svg Ophiuchus N/A November 29 – December 17
Sagittarius.svg Sagittarius December 16 – January 14 November 22 – December 21 December 17 – January 20
Capricorn.svg Capricorn January 15 – February 14 December 22 – January 20 January 20 – February 16
Aquarius.svg Aquarius February 15 – March 14 January 21 – February 19 February 16 – March 11
Pisces.svg Pisces March 15 – April 14 February 19 – March 20 March 11 – April 18
Posted by CopperDoveOh, I doubt I will switch(but who knows...🙂)...except for this week. It's just a temporary experiment to check if I could make some other chart fit my personality. Vedic was just convenient since all the tools are already there. I really want to give it a shot and in vedic, the aspects and houses are still the same which would make it a better chance of success, as I see it, so, I guess we'll see.🙂
My Sidreal chart fits me better than I would have expected, except for how it gives me an Aries rising and eliminates all Sag from my chart.
But not enough to switch.
Vedic is supposedly better for looking at fate, rather than personality.
Yes, I heard that too. It's interesting! I know veeery little about it, though, so I should probably be quiet now...😉
Posted by ElleDuMondeThis is interesting! I know far too little about it to even have another comment than that I would be very interested in learning how that works in the future. Right now, I'm fully occupied trying to work out tropical. One day, one day.🙂Posted by CopperDoveThis.
Vedic is supposedly better for looking at fate, rather than personality.
That's why you can't read them the same.
My Vedic states I'm a libra with a pisces moon.
My Western is Scorpio sun with an aries moon......with a libra stellium in my 12th house.
There are correlations....but....you can't read them in the same manner because then things start to disconnect.
A description of a libra with a pisces moon is different than a libra stellium in the 12th house....but they still have some similarities.
I don't even know how to explain myself....lol.
I had a vedic done professionally......and I can *see* in my head how they are different...but I can't find the words to explain it.
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In this little attempt, I will do the interpretation of the vedic chart in tropical. I'm just using my vedic chart as "any chart" because the tools happen to be there already at astro.com and the aspects, houses and some planets are the same, which would make it easier for me to succeed.
If I would manage to make my vedic a working chart for me(still in tropical, I couldn't do vedic to save my life,) then I would try this with a chart that is a lot different, without the same aspects or houses and see where that takes me. It's just an experiment. Looking forward to be a sag for the week!😄
Posted by andstrollbotMore than with a leo moon? Suuure...😛
i am a sidereal cancer moon. i should complain more about shit. why is shit so smelly?! gad!
Posted by fallendarkangelAh.🙂
I still have Scorpio Sun in Sidereal, but my Moon and other planets changed signs and houses.
Your houses changed? Interesting. Wondering where you did your vedic chart? First time I did my vedic chart was not on astro.com and I even got a difference in signs between the two(vedic). I was confused. At least now I have decided to use the astro.com version, since it's easier and the one I got recommended to me. Not saying your source is bad, though. At all. I know nothing about vedic charts.🙂
Posted by quarius_xyLOL I used to have a gem ASC - miss it dreadfully. Dealing with Taurus ASC now - have no idea how to handle that. I got an aqua mars too. Feeling you on that. I'm going to have to read clooosely to make that one fit. 😄
Sidereal im a taurus with aqua moon, aqua mars and gems ascendant
Just kill me already.
Posted by UbermenschVedic.
what is sidereal
You can make your vedic chart at astro.com. Just choose sidereal instead of tropical and you're done. Good luck!🙂
Posted by FragranceMust admit my experiment is less about sidereal than about checking the works of astrology. As they have said earlier in this thread, reading vedic charts, is done quite differently than tropical charts. But I have close to no knowledge of that practice, so...🙂
Love this thread!! I am really interested in sidereal
Sag sun suits you I think...
I'd be Pisces Sun and Venus, Gemini Moon, Aqua Mercury and Mars, Libra Rising 😄 Did my wit got blown away by all this air or what? I shall say, however, that on new moon and all the way while it grows I become particularly spirited and talkative... but that's all about it. hehe
Sag sun suits me? Ooo! Great! Love sags!🙂 ...although I have no idea what I'm gonna do without a single planet in cap. As of now, I don't feel very much like a sag, but I'll try.🙂
Yeah, lol, that's a lot of air! 😄 That gem moon is a darling, though - enjoy it! I got to keep mine, tihi.🙂
Posted by KoniuchaaInteresting! Did you identify with your sag mars?
Ok, here is my Vedic
Scorpio Rising
Libra Sun
Cancer moon
Libra Mercury
Scorpio Mars
Virgo Venus
The only one I question is Scorpio Mars
Posted by PlaguedThat's pretty close to how I see it. The hard aspects, transit lessons and such are not all activated at birth(usually) and the hard aspects are on-going processes with several lessons through a life time. We learn as we go - about ourselves and how we should/could manage what we got.
I like to think of astrology charts as an outline and the free will we've been given dictates and molds the insides of that said outline depending on how we go about life.
We can let them run us over, or we can get a grip(easier said than done at times, though) and learn things to be able to handle things better in the future. Pick and choose.
Posted by KoniuchaaShying away from attention and preferring to stay hidden sounds more like mars in scorpio than mars in sag...I mean if you have a libra sun. Didn't you have a lot of Uranus action in your chart? Maybe that could be the cause for your restlessness? But then, I don't know it what way your restlessness shows itself.Posted by HappyCapperI do, yes. I can really be impatient and restless. But it is also in my 12th house, so the energy is more turned inward. I shy away from attention and I prefer to stay hidden.Posted by KoniuchaaInteresting! Did you identify with your sag mars?
Ok, here is my Vedic
Scorpio Rising
Libra Sun
Cancer moon
Libra Mercury
Scorpio Mars
Virgo Venus
The only one I question is Scorpio Mars
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Posted by KoniuchaaYou probably know a lot more about vedic than I do, seeing as I know pretty much nothing. In this experiment, I only used my vedic chart as "any chart" to see if it would work if I really tried...but using tropical astrology, though.Posted by HappyCapperI don't have a lot of Uranus. I am Jupiter dominant. My mars in my 12th house takes away it's energyPosted by KoniuchaaShying away from attention and preferring to stay hidden sounds more like mars in scorpio than mars in sag...I mean if you have a libra sun. Didn't you have a lot of Uranus action in your chart? Maybe that could be the cause for your restlessness? But then, I don't know it what way your restlessness shows itself.Posted by HappyCapperI do, yes. I can really be impatient and restless. But it is also in my 12th house, so the energy is more turned inward. I shy away from attention and I prefer to stay hidden.Posted by KoniuchaaInteresting! Did you identify with your sag mars?
Ok, here is my Vedic
Scorpio Rising
Libra Sun
Cancer moon
Libra Mercury
Scorpio Mars
Virgo Venus
The only one I question is Scorpio Mars
Perhaps. I don't know much about Vedic. But my regular chart is definitely me.click to expand
Ah. Don't know where I got that from. Sorry. Hmm. An aspect maybe? 9th house action?
Posted by TrueFantasyYeah, I have a sag venus in my tropical and am now a sag sun. Still feel it's difficult, because that venus really stands out as the only fire in my chart. I do feel the energy due to this, but that's in my venus. Now it's sun and merc and should not stand out - it's my ego now. I have no earth in either one of my personal planets. I miss my cap sun already.😭Posted by HappyCapperIt may be a change but I identify with my Leo Venus and Mars a little more than my sun! So I should be able to handle it lol and yes my chart for now is hydrated! Sag rising sounds great so I'm making the most of it. So much positive energy in my sidereal chart it looks pretty 🙂Posted by TrueFantasyVirgo to leo is quite a change! Cool! And a looot of water! 😄
I would be a Leo sun, Leo moon, Virgo Mercury, cancer Venus and Mars (WATERRRRRRRRRR FINALLY) with a sag rising and libra MC.
Because it's Leo season I'll try lol
How do you feel about your sag rising?
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For some reason, many times when I see someone especially beautiful, it turns out to be a sag ASC. Maybe because sag is my DC(tropical.) So great!🙂
My Taurus rising may just be the hardest for me to deal with in this.
Posted by HappyCapperSeems like a worthy test! I hope you'll post your results about what it was like when the week is up. 🙂Posted by CopperDoveOh, I doubt I will switch(but who knows...🙂)...except for this week. It's just a temporary experiment to check if I could make some other chart fit my personality. Vedic was just convenient since all the tools are already there. I really want to give it a shot and in vedic, the aspects and houses are still the same which would make it a better chance of success, as I see it, so, I guess we'll see.🙂
My Sidreal chart fits me better than I would have expected, except for how it gives me an Aries rising and eliminates all Sag from my chart.
But not enough to switch.
Vedic is supposedly better for looking at fate, rather than personality.
Yes, I heard that too. It's interesting! I know veeery little about it, though, so I should probably be quiet now...😉
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Posted by CopperDoveYou're most welcome to join if you want!🙂Posted by HappyCapperSeems like a worthy test! I hope you'll post your results about what it was like when the week is up. 🙂Posted by CopperDoveOh, I doubt I will switch(but who knows...🙂)...except for this week. It's just a temporary experiment to check if I could make some other chart fit my personality. Vedic was just convenient since all the tools are already there. I really want to give it a shot and in vedic, the aspects and houses are still the same which would make it a better chance of success, as I see it, so, I guess we'll see.🙂
My Sidreal chart fits me better than I would have expected, except for how it gives me an Aries rising and eliminates all Sag from my chart.
But not enough to switch.
Vedic is supposedly better for looking at fate, rather than personality.
Yes, I heard that too. It's interesting! I know veeery little about it, though, so I should probably be quiet now...😉
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I will!🙂
Posted by HappyCapperAquarius moon, venus and ascendant in leo and mars and mercury in cancer.Posted by clareYaY!😄
i'll play. i now have a capricorn moon, venus and ascendant in cancer and mars and mercury in gemini.
What did you have before?
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i identify with everything but i won't post why otherwise i'd end up writing an essay. it's just the capricorn moon. earth moons are lethally poker faced I have noticed and I am the opposite. I can be poker faced if I need to be but it takes concentration. I usually can't hide my feelings, especially from people who are close to me.
wait, did you post all of yours? i'll have to read back through..
Posted by clareOoo! Exciting!🙂 May I ask your sun sign?Posted by HappyCapperAquarius moon, venus and ascendant in leo and mars and mercury in cancer.Posted by clareYaY!😄
i'll play. i now have a capricorn moon, venus and ascendant in cancer and mars and mercury in gemini.
What did you have before?
i identify with everything but i won't post why otherwise i'd end up writing an essay. it's just the capricorn moon. earth moons are lethally poker faced I have noticed and I am the opposite. I can be poker faced if I need to be but it takes concentration. I usually can't hide my feelings, especially from people who are close to me.
wait, did you post all of yours? i'll have to read back through..
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No I didn't.
Tropical me
Cap Sun
Gem Moon
Cap Merc
Sag Venus
Pisces Mars
ASC Gem
Vedic Me
Sag Sun
Gem Moon
Sag Merc
Scorp Venus
Aqua Mars
ASC Taurus
Seems this is going to be difficult for me. I got to keep my moon, but the rest is going to be hard. I think the Taurus ASC will be the toughest of them(as I see it now - that may change) and then...the rest, really. Oh my, what have I gotten myself into? 😭
Posted by Koniuchaasounds like me, this. patience is ok these days though, which i guess having a child helped with. very much a blessing.Posted by HappyCapperI do, yes. I can really be impatient and restless. But it is also in my 12th house, so the energy is more turned inward. I shy away from attention and I prefer to stay hidden.Posted by KoniuchaaInteresting! Did you identify with your sag mars?
Ok, here is my Vedic
Scorpio Rising
Libra Sun
Cancer moon
Libra Mercury
Scorpio Mars
Virgo Venus
The only one I question is Scorpio Mars
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Posted by HappyCappermy daughter is a cap sun with a gem moon and this was always already one of my favourite combinations because rowan atkinson has it as well. i say sense of humour = genius level for these guys. well my girl comes out with some stuff that I have to tell her not to say but inside i'm thinking, 'umm, i'm sure i hid that side of my self from her .. oh shit'. those gemini moons ..Posted by clareOoo! Exciting!🙂 May I ask your sun sign?Posted by HappyCapperAquarius moon, venus and ascendant in leo and mars and mercury in cancer.Posted by clareYaY!😄
i'll play. i now have a capricorn moon, venus and ascendant in cancer and mars and mercury in gemini.
What did you have before?
i identify with everything but i won't post why otherwise i'd end up writing an essay. it's just the capricorn moon. earth moons are lethally poker faced I have noticed and I am the opposite. I can be poker faced if I need to be but it takes concentration. I usually can't hide my feelings, especially from people who are close to me.
wait, did you post all of yours? i'll have to read back through..
No I didn't.
Tropical me
Cap Sun
Gem Moon
Cap Merc
Sag Venus
Pisces Mars
ASC Gem
Vedic Me
Sag Sun
Gem Moon
Sag Merc
Scorp Venus
Aqua Mars
ASC Taurus
Seems this is going to be difficult for me. I got to keep my moon, but the rest is going to be hard. I think the Taurus ASC will be the toughest of them(as I see it now - that may change) and then...the rest, really. Oh my, what have I gotten myself into? 😭
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lolz. so you're acting them out, I thought you were just observing?
Posted by clareAaah! Cool!😄Posted by HappyCappermy daughter is a cap sun with a gem moon and this was always already one of my favourite combinations because rowan atkinson has it as well. i say sense of humour = genius level for these guys. well my girl comes out with some stuff that I have to tell her not to say but inside i'm thinking, 'umm, i'm sure i hid that side of my self from her .. oh shit'. those gemini moons ..Posted by clareOoo! Exciting!🙂 May I ask your sun sign?Posted by HappyCapperAquarius moon, venus and ascendant in leo and mars and mercury in cancer.Posted by clareYaY!😄
i'll play. i now have a capricorn moon, venus and ascendant in cancer and mars and mercury in gemini.
What did you have before?
i identify with everything but i won't post why otherwise i'd end up writing an essay. it's just the capricorn moon. earth moons are lethally poker faced I have noticed and I am the opposite. I can be poker faced if I need to be but it takes concentration. I usually can't hide my feelings, especially from people who are close to me.
wait, did you post all of yours? i'll have to read back through..
No I didn't.
Tropical me
Cap Sun
Gem Moon
Cap Merc
Sag Venus
Pisces Mars
ASC Gem
Vedic Me
Sag Sun
Gem Moon
Sag Merc
Scorp Venus
Aqua Mars
ASC Taurus
Seems this is going to be difficult for me. I got to keep my moon, but the rest is going to be hard. I think the Taurus ASC will be the toughest of them(as I see it now - that may change) and then...the rest, really. Oh my, what have I gotten myself into? 😭
lolz. so you're acting them out, I thought you were just observing?
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Nah, not acting so much as trying to pretend that it's my real tropical chart in my head. See where that leads me, if it's even possible. See how it would change the personality of a person from one chart to the other. It's probably my gem moon enjoying itself.😉
May I know your sun sign?
Posted by HappyCapperyeah indeed, it probably is. 🙂Posted by clareAaah! Cool!😄Posted by HappyCappermy daughter is a cap sun with a gem moon and this was always already one of my favourite combinations because rowan atkinson has it as well. i say sense of humour = genius level for these guys. well my girl comes out with some stuff that I have to tell her not to say but inside i'm thinking, 'umm, i'm sure i hid that side of my self from her .. oh shit'. those gemini moons ..Posted by clareOoo! Exciting!🙂 May I ask your sun sign?Posted by HappyCapperAquarius moon, venus and ascendant in leo and mars and mercury in cancer.Posted by clareYaY!😄
i'll play. i now have a capricorn moon, venus and ascendant in cancer and mars and mercury in gemini.
What did you have before?
i identify with everything but i won't post why otherwise i'd end up writing an essay. it's just the capricorn moon. earth moons are lethally poker faced I have noticed and I am the opposite. I can be poker faced if I need to be but it takes concentration. I usually can't hide my feelings, especially from people who are close to me.
wait, did you post all of yours? i'll have to read back through..
No I didn't.
Tropical me
Cap Sun
Gem Moon
Cap Merc
Sag Venus
Pisces Mars
ASC Gem
Vedic Me
Sag Sun
Gem Moon
Sag Merc
Scorp Venus
Aqua Mars
ASC Taurus
Seems this is going to be difficult for me. I got to keep my moon, but the rest is going to be hard. I think the Taurus ASC will be the toughest of them(as I see it now - that may change) and then...the rest, really. Oh my, what have I gotten myself into? 😭
lolz. so you're acting them out, I thought you were just observing?
Nah, not acting so much as trying to pretend that it's my real tropical chart in my head. See where that leads me, if it's even possible. See how it would change the personality of a person from one chart to the other. It's probably my gem moon enjoying itself.😉
May I know your sun sign?
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oh sorry I forgot to answer that question. it stayed in cancer, but went from 26 to 2°.
now if i were to make a draconic chart of the sidereal ..
(just kidding 😉)
round like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel ♬
Posted by clareKidding?!?! Don't toy with my gem moon! First thing I did was try to check if it was possible at astro.com. Now, it's an itch I can't scratch.😭 😉Posted by HappyCapperyeah indeed, it probably is. 🙂Posted by clareAaah! Cool!😄Posted by HappyCappermy daughter is a cap sun with a gem moon and this was always already one of my favourite combinations because rowan atkinson has it as well. i say sense of humour = genius level for these guys. well my girl comes out with some stuff that I have to tell her not to say but inside i'm thinking, 'umm, i'm sure i hid that side of my self from her .. oh shit'. those gemini moons ..Posted by clareOoo! Exciting!🙂 May I ask your sun sign?Posted by HappyCapperAquarius moon, venus and ascendant in leo and mars and mercury in cancer.Posted by clareYaY!😄
i'll play. i now have a capricorn moon, venus and ascendant in cancer and mars and mercury in gemini.
What did you have before?
i identify with everything but i won't post why otherwise i'd end up writing an essay. it's just the capricorn moon. earth moons are lethally poker faced I have noticed and I am the opposite. I can be poker faced if I need to be but it takes concentration. I usually can't hide my feelings, especially from people who are close to me.
wait, did you post all of yours? i'll have to read back through..
No I didn't.
Tropical me
Cap Sun
Gem Moon
Cap Merc
Sag Venus
Pisces Mars
ASC Gem
Vedic Me
Sag Sun
Gem Moon
Sag Merc
Scorp Venus
Aqua Mars
ASC Taurus
Seems this is going to be difficult for me. I got to keep my moon, but the rest is going to be hard. I think the Taurus ASC will be the toughest of them(as I see it now - that may change) and then...the rest, really. Oh my, what have I gotten myself into? 😭
lolz. so you're acting them out, I thought you were just observing?
Nah, not acting so much as trying to pretend that it's my real tropical chart in my head. See where that leads me, if it's even possible. See how it would change the personality of a person from one chart to the other. It's probably my gem moon enjoying itself.😉
May I know your sun sign?
oh sorry I forgot to answer that question. it stayed in cancer, but went from 26 to 2°.
now if i were to make a draconic chart of the sidereal ..
(just kidding 😉)
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Posted by HappyCapperhehe. i just tried it in the software i have, it didn't seem to work. maybe you'd have to do it manually.
Kidding?!?! Don't toy with my gem moon! First thing I did was try to check if it was possible at astro.com. Now, it's an itch 😭 😉
Posted by HappyCapperPosted by fallendarkangelAh.🙂
I still have Scorpio Sun in Sidereal, but my Moon and other planets changed signs and houses.
Your houses changed? Interesting. Wondering where you did your vedic chart? First time I did my vedic chart was not on astro.com and I even got a difference in signs between the two(vedic). I was confused. At least now I have decided to use the astro.com version, since it's easier and the one I got recommended to me. Not saying your source is bad, though. At all. I know nothing about vedic charts.🙂
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Yes. I used astro.com. Only the signs changed. My bad 😄 My Moon became in Leo. Although I can relate to some of it since my Virgo moon was in 1 degree. However my Pluto and Mercury became Scorpio in 10th. My Sun and MC are still in Scorpio. My ASC became in Cap and I couldn't relate to it.
Posted by fallendarkangelAh okay.🙂Posted by HappyCapperPosted by fallendarkangelAh.🙂
I still have Scorpio Sun in Sidereal, but my Moon and other planets changed signs and houses.
Your houses changed? Interesting. Wondering where you did your vedic chart? First time I did my vedic chart was not on astro.com and I even got a difference in signs between the two(vedic). I was confused. At least now I have decided to use the astro.com version, since it's easier and the one I got recommended to me. Not saying your source is bad, though. At all. I know nothing about vedic charts.🙂
Yes. I used astro.com. Only the signs changed. My bad 😄 My Moon became in Leo. Although I can relate to some of it since my Virgo moon was in 1 degree. However my Pluto and Mercury became Scorpio in 10th. My Sun and MC are still in Scorpio. My ASC became in Cap and I couldn't relate to it.click to expand
Interesting! So you think it would be impossible to squeeze forth something about Cap ASC to fit your person? Must say I have a similar problem with my Vedic Taurus. I haven't given up yet, though - I'll keep looking, but I do think it's going to be difficult.
Posted by HappyCapperActually I could relate somehow to Cap rising, but maybe it's my 10th House Sun and strong Cap influence that's shaping my personality. When I tried my Cap rising, my Aqua Rising still manifests, so I can't completely use my Vedic Cap Rising.Posted by fallendarkangelAh okay.🙂Posted by HappyCapperPosted by fallendarkangelAh.🙂
I still have Scorpio Sun in Sidereal, but my Moon and other planets changed signs and houses.
Your houses changed? Interesting. Wondering where you did your vedic chart? First time I did my vedic chart was not on astro.com and I even got a difference in signs between the two(vedic). I was confused. At least now I have decided to use the astro.com version, since it's easier and the one I got recommended to me. Not saying your source is bad, though. At all. I know nothing about vedic charts.🙂
Yes. I used astro.com. Only the signs changed. My bad 😄 My Moon became in Leo. Although I can relate to some of it since my Virgo moon was in 1 degree. However my Pluto and Mercury became Scorpio in 10th. My Sun and MC are still in Scorpio. My ASC became in Cap and I couldn't relate to it.
Interesting! So you think it would be impossible to squeeze forth something about Cap ASC to fit your person? Must say I have a similar problem with my Vedic Taurus. I haven't given up yet, though - I'll keep looking, but I do think it's going to be difficult.
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Yes that's very difficult. I hope your experiment would be successful. 🙂
Posted by fallendarkangelI'm a Cap sun and merc in tropical and I would probably still have a hard time to fit a Cap ASC into my personality. I have even asked my friends about their first impression of me and also how they think I act when I meet new people and it's apparently not Capricorn or Taurus like at all. It's all Gemini. Well, I'll keep doing my research and hope for the best.🙂Posted by HappyCapperActually I could relate somehow to Cap rising, but maybe it's my 10th House Sun and strong Cap influence that's shaping my personality. When I tried my Cap rising, my Aqua Rising still manifests, so I can't completely use my Vedic Cap Rising.Posted by fallendarkangelAh okay.🙂Posted by HappyCapperPosted by fallendarkangelAh.🙂
I still have Scorpio Sun in Sidereal, but my Moon and other planets changed signs and houses.
Your houses changed? Interesting. Wondering where you did your vedic chart? First time I did my vedic chart was not on astro.com and I even got a difference in signs between the two(vedic). I was confused. At least now I have decided to use the astro.com version, since it's easier and the one I got recommended to me. Not saying your source is bad, though. At all. I know nothing about vedic charts.🙂
Yes. I used astro.com. Only the signs changed. My bad 😄 My Moon became in Leo. Although I can relate to some of it since my Virgo moon was in 1 degree. However my Pluto and Mercury became Scorpio in 10th. My Sun and MC are still in Scorpio. My ASC became in Cap and I couldn't relate to it.
Interesting! So you think it would be impossible to squeeze forth something about Cap ASC to fit your person? Must say I have a similar problem with my Vedic Taurus. I haven't given up yet, though - I'll keep looking, but I do think it's going to be difficult.
Yes that's very difficult. I hope your experiment would be successful. 🙂
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May I ask, in what way can you relate to your cap rising...and when does aqua take over? (trying to learn about how to go from air to earth.😉)
@HappyCapper
Well it seems that people really see us differently the way we do 🙂 I'm really curious how do people see you as Gem. When I was in the first day of our class in my freshman year, the first impression of people around me is Scorpio. So I was kinda shocked since it was not even my AC. I dunno why. Now, whenever I try to act like Cap (serious, goal-oriented, etc.) I just can't help myself to be friendly and make jokes, act quirky (it only happens if I control the environment like all of the people in the class are my friends and some new student entered the class). Then after a while I turn to my Scorp mode then Virgo mode. Then be Aqua and Cap again. That's how my cycle goes.
Well it seems that people really see us differently the way we do 🙂 I'm really curious how do people see you as Gem. When I was in the first day of our class in my freshman year, the first impression of people around me is Scorpio. So I was kinda shocked since it was not even my AC. I dunno why. Now, whenever I try to act like Cap (serious, goal-oriented, etc.) I just can't help myself to be friendly and make jokes, act quirky (it only happens if I control the environment like all of the people in the class are my friends and some new student entered the class). Then after a while I turn to my Scorp mode then Virgo mode. Then be Aqua and Cap again. That's how my cycle goes.
Astrology isn't a religion, but it's still a worship. Its the worship of planets and stars more then anything. And why is that so frowned upon? Why is it made to look false by the general public? In reality it's the worship of planets and stars millions of times bigger and complex then anything we know as humans. Which still falls into the same old thing. We know very little, nothing really means anything, and we're all gonna die. The end.
Might as well have fun and enjoy yourself right? Make some stuff up, live life in a fictional story. Its no different then anything else.
Might as well have fun and enjoy yourself right? Make some stuff up, live life in a fictional story. Its no different then anything else.
Posted by fallendarkangelThank you!🙂
@HappyCapper
Well it seems that people really see us differently the way we do 🙂 I'm really curious how do people see you as Gem. When I was in the first day of our class in my freshman year, the first impression of people around me is Scorpio. So I was kinda shocked since it was not even my AC. I dunno why. Now, whenever I try to act like Cap (serious, goal-oriented, etc.) I just can't help myself to be friendly and make jokes, act quirky (it only happens if I control the environment like all of the people in the class are my friends and some new student entered the class). Then after a while I turn to my Scorp mode then Virgo mode. Then be Aqua and Cap again. That's how my cycle goes.
When I first meet people(unless I know they are there to evaluate me or if I know I'm going to have to spend a lot of time with them in the future...which puts up my guard faaast), they see me as quick witted, bubbly, non-threatening and even flakey. Then they scratch the surface, and some people literally take a step back. Others just put up their guards, wondering what the heck happened. So I go back to gem mode to make them feel more at ease.
Works with some people, not with others. With the people that works with, I keep pretending to be a Gemini, with the ones it doesn't work with, I slooowly go to the next level. Luckily, the latter are usually the people who seem to find it easier to handle 8th house cap than the others, so it usually works out in the end with them, but it takes a long long time to do it.
My moon is in Gemini too, but it's very influenced, especially by the 2nd house and by the square to Pluto. The core of it is definitely Gemini, but it's definitely not a traditional "clean" Gemini moon, which makes it close to impossible to use it like I use my rising.
The people in your class are people you are going to spend a lot of time with in the future and as I said before, that makes at least me go more sun sign. Is it the same with you? I mean, would you go aqua at casual parties with acquaintances that you may or may not spend much time with in the future and scorp when it's in a more permanent setting?
Posted by SoulWorship may be an exaggeration, as I see it - very few people worship astrology. The celestial bodies, however, are certainly worshipped and I see nothing wrong with that. I don't think it's the worship of stars and planets that are being frowned upon, though, but the belief that human personalities and destines were formed by them...and that does sound pretty damn crazy, at least to me.
Astrology isn't a religion, but it's still a worship. Its the worship of planets and stars more then anything. And why is that so frowned upon? Why is it made to look false by the general public? In reality it's the worship of planets and stars millions of times bigger and complex then anything we know as humans. Which still falls into the same old thing. We know very little, nothing really means anything, and we're all gonna die. The end.
Might as well have fun and enjoy yourself right? Make some stuff up, live life in a fictional story. Its no different then anything else.
I do think astrology has merits(at the very least as a tool to ask myself questions that need answering), which is why I keep studying it. But I absolutely refuse to give in to coincidences; just because a theory seem to have merits it's not proven and I need a lot more knowledge than I do now to decide whether I believe in any of it or not.
We know very little, agreed, and we're all gonna die - might as well enjoy life while we can. And if astrology can help with that, then why the heck not.🙂
@HappyCapper
Maybe since your Gem Moon is illuminated because of Pluto, people necessarily see it, so no wonder they've seen you as Gem. My friends also see my Virgo moon tendencies because it was also aspected by Pluto and it shows its power even if we try to hide it. 🙂 I was also doing the same thing that you did. I act Aquarian because I always intimidate people even if I try to think that I'm friendly. lol 🙂
With regards to my classmates, I still act Aquarian, but with my closest friend there, they see my Scorpio- Virgo personality. When in casual parties, I act my Scorp MC. Then when people approach me, they either see my Aqua ASC or my Scorp Sun (it depends on compatibility with the person). I try to make an image that people would believe that it's really me when in fact it's not. Surprisingly, nowadays I act more Scorpionic than ever before. The last time that it happened was 2 years ago when my transit was heavily Scorpionic. I tried to suppress my Scorp side by masking it with my Aquarian side, but I always fail. I think my life is beginning to embrace my Scorpio nature.
Maybe since your Gem Moon is illuminated because of Pluto, people necessarily see it, so no wonder they've seen you as Gem. My friends also see my Virgo moon tendencies because it was also aspected by Pluto and it shows its power even if we try to hide it. 🙂 I was also doing the same thing that you did. I act Aquarian because I always intimidate people even if I try to think that I'm friendly. lol 🙂
With regards to my classmates, I still act Aquarian, but with my closest friend there, they see my Scorpio- Virgo personality. When in casual parties, I act my Scorp MC. Then when people approach me, they either see my Aqua ASC or my Scorp Sun (it depends on compatibility with the person). I try to make an image that people would believe that it's really me when in fact it's not. Surprisingly, nowadays I act more Scorpionic than ever before. The last time that it happened was 2 years ago when my transit was heavily Scorpionic. I tried to suppress my Scorp side by masking it with my Aquarian side, but I always fail. I think my life is beginning to embrace my Scorpio nature.
Posted by SagiScorpInteresting! May I ask, have you studied both your entire charts(vedic and tropical), or are you basing this solely on sun, moon and ASC? I mean, that's the tricky part with astrology, imo: you may be able to find explanations for everything if you try hard enough. At least that's what I'll try to partly(I need a lot more testing to really figure it out, ofc, but this is one step) figure out if it's possible with this experiment.🙂
According to Vedic, I'm a Scorpio Sun, Libra Moon, Libra Ascendant.
In Tropical, I'm Sag Sun, Scorp Moon, Scorp Ascendant.
I see a lot of Sagittarius and Scorpio in me. My natural instinct is to be impatient, impulsive and blunt. I blame that on my sun. My Scorpio moon waters down my fiery tendencies a tad, making me more reserved and observant; at the price of making me enter negative spirals of feelings and thoughts if I'm not very careful.
I don't see any Libra in me at all. I don't have a hard time making decisions, and I do not attempt to unrealistically please everyone at the same time.
I'm confident in the tropical placements.
Posted by narayanaAbsolutely. And that's the danger, imo. I mean, if you can explain every person in some way with the help of just any chart, we might as well all rip our natal charts to shreds, using astrology only as a tool to ask ourselves a bunch of healthy questions.
There's way too much information you can look up, it's not just your tropical chart. There are also transits, progressed charts, vedic charts, that one thing which determines the following year after your Bday, whatever it was called, etc. You can pretty much find an explanation of anything you encounter in at least one of all charts. Astrology isn't like maths, it's never so strict and certain. It gives you a whole lot of possible interpretations.
Oh, do I wish astrology was like math! Would have made it sooo much simpler...but probably not as fun....so idk...🙂
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So, from Monday and a week forward I'll be a Sagittarius! Wish me luck!😄