Bending your Karmatic Path

This topic was created in the Astrology forum by piscesmoon2 on Monday, October 28, 2013 and has 7 replies.
I was talking about this subject with a friend and thought it would be interesting to bring here. After studying astrology I realized we always will face the same influence because our birth chart is fixed... and the transits are always going to come by at a predestine mathematical way. Now people get depressed if they start to think they are not in controlling of their own life. Really they are because they choose how they meet this energy or trial... and so on.
I now believe you can bend a karmatic path safely or for positive reasons... but you can't break... and if you fall your path changes in to a negative direction... like a battery... You will then face another path of trails because you missed out... So each choice in a situation is a path... In reality there are many paths for people but only so many logically correct for them... and possible... You still face this path but you can influences it greatly by finding someone that is a chart, seer, median, clairvoyant, guru, or so on... These people can help you see the path and how to change it as they understand the over all energy flows of the universe... Which can be seen though astrology I believe as well... This my give you an idea of what is to come so you can be ready... and rise higher on an energy wave to be in better position to face, meaning you can only choose how you met these challenges. Second way is though positive karma though self applications... You maybe going though a hard time but do something nice for someone anyways... positive energy... now if you are in a harsh cycle it may be a bit before it comes... or maybe even in the next life time... Of course anyone can chart if they put there mind to it but of course their are more talented people...
I believe the most important thing is not to try and brake or force some situation to be what you want... or how you see it... as that is not what the person needed. If people really understand that each battle is made fore us individually and we must face it... Some times alone... some times not... If you run after all the universe does not like that... like a Saturn return... 30 years... or 7 years... or 3.5... you have small pushes to fix these things... If not there will be a bigger push to... correct.
What do people think of this or do you think I am nutz... as this is the best way I can explain this...
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Posted by sandynads
Thefe is karma u can change and can't change.



Yes ands... I do believe that to a point... however choosing how much energy you bring though a difficult situation... helps push you though it...
What I am saying is you can change that as you go though it. Yes some Karma I believe can't be changed as somethings have to happen... like the sun and the moon rising and setting... and to a lesser degree other things...
I believe personally you can bend a karmatic path... by using good karma to your advantage... if you have someone that is good enough to do readings of some type that can tell you all the people involved and then from there if someone influences a section of people say 2 to 5... it really can remake a path for someone...
I personally in my family have been dealing well not only with a cold but some sensitive issues in northern call... I pulled my Uncles, grandmothers, cuz chart, my chart, and Uncles Libra gf sun sign was enough... They would all think this stuff is evil... Except my cuz... who I was more worried about more then the rest... I told him what I was doing and he was always shocked by the events that took place... and how he could see what I did kinda... and was trying and think I changed his karmatic path... As with this... I mean I helped him there a karmatic path he choose and had to go though but supported him... as well as suppressed the Libra girlfriend of my uncle from getting my uncle to disown him... It was amazing to see all the Uranus, Pluto, and Aries interactions... As it seemed to be the main things involved... and for my Murcury...
I am wondering if people have I guess tried this or see people coming and going like this when they read charts... and been able to identify who they are in life...?
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These are them... I am interested as to what you are going to say...
Retrograde Saturn in Scorpio and 9th House
Retrograde Uranus in Sagittarius and 10th House
Retrograde Pluto in Scorpio and 8th House
Retrograde North Node in Gemini and 4th House
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Yes... I agree with what you are saying... I talk about changing the karmatic path during the time it is going on not what I am facing as much. I am not saying you don't face the same influences but that you face them in a better way by influencing the people around you... in a positive way... to make something easier... we all normally make it worse though... to make something easier for another could be an example of gaining good karma.
Thank you though because you are right... about these things...
The worst one is the
Retrograde Pluto in Scorpio and 8th House
This is just a major influences... As Pluto... is in home house and sign... as well as retrograde...
I have here many things about this point... regarding relationships and heart brakes... as well as it being a curse breaker...
I can say it is a major point for scorpio and is my dark nature and interest in occult... as well as more...
Right now everything just seems hard because of my saturn return...
Thank you ands though
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I am going to add mercury has been having a major effect on my communication...
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I have an 8th house Scorpio Pluto as well. It isn't retrograde but I've personally found the "curse breaker" aspect of the placement to be mildly amusing.

How do you figure out what your karmic destiny is supposed to be?
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Posted by TMV
I have an 8th house Scorpio Pluto as well. It isn't retrograde but I've personally found the "curse breaker" aspect of the placement to be mildly amusing.

How do you figure out what your karmic destiny is supposed to be?


You see people look for the destiny points... I am more talking about the influences we face from transits. As yes there are somethings that are destiny kinda... It is like if someone become a big drugy... that was not their karma or purpose in life. They may have had a chart that made them more likely to fall into that trap... but does not mean they had to...
Yes Pluto in the 8 house of Scorpio retrograde... Is a crazy influence if you have this... it is most likely the strongest influence in your chart... It is everything that Pluto as the ruler of Scorpio and the 8th house... retrograde makes it even more powerful. Of course Mars in 8th house would only add to that fire... I am lucky saturn and mars are in the 9th not the 8th but very much still in Scorpio. I have seen more people with placements in Scorpio that are strong though... Pluto in the 8th house has even it's own qualities that are different then other placements...
I do believe you are right about it being a curse breaker but I read that is a mark of a curse too... and we can brake it... Normally relating to mult marriages and splits... deformity... drug additions and so on...
Often from what I read it is from a grandmother... as both of mine are interesting and there have been a number of divorces in my family... I am happy to say that my sister and brother are still married to the same person... and I am not married...
Thank you for your thoughts TMV
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