career aspects of astrology?

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I remember reading my Part of Hyleg was conjunct fixed star Ras Algethi in 4th, with moon in the house (not too close).

No idea what it means lol


It's more the sign it is in and the ruling planet of that sign. There are specific motivations attributed to each sign, so many qualities that aren't posted on the net.

Usually there needn't be anymore than that in readings. People find it matches up with just those two alone. But if that's not enough then I look at aspects to the planet ruling their POH, and then their parents' luminaries since that's the best part about the whole concept behind POH - that we're only making a career out of our lives to seek our parents' (or parental figures) approval in whatever form.
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Thanks. I must admit I was absolutely ignorant on the topic up until now. Anyway ruler is Jupiter, which is in 10 on the cusp of 11th. Ruler of Jupiter is the Moon in 4th, so I guess that's a mutual reception right?

Jupiter opposite Moon

Jupiter square Sun

Jupiter square Mercury

Jupiter opposite Uranus

Jupiter sesqui-quadrate Pluto

Opposition with Uranus is loose, the other within 2 degrees. Jupiter is also part of T-square I feel strongly.
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I remember reading my Part of Hyleg was conjunct fixed star Ras Algethi in 4th, with moon in the house (not too close).

No idea what it means lol


It's more the sign it is in and the ruling planet of that sign. There are specific motivations attributed to each sign, so many qualities that aren't posted on the net.

Usually there needn't be anymore than that in readings. People find it matches up with just those two alone. But if that's not enough then I look at aspects to the planet ruling their POH, and then their parents' luminaries since that's the best part about the whole concept behind POH - that we're only making a career out of our lives to seek our parents' (or parental figures) approval in whatever form.
Thanks. I must admit I was absolutely ignorant on the topic up until now. Anyway ruler is Jupiter, which is in 10 on the cusp of 11th. Ruler of Jupiter is the Moon in 4th, so I guess that's a mutual reception right?

Jupiter opposite Moon

Jupiter square Sun

Jupiter square Mercury

Jupiter opposite Uranus

Jupiter sesqui-quadrate Pluto

Opposition with Uranus is loose, the other within 2 degrees. Jupiter is also part of T-square I feel strongly.
What sign is your 4th house? strictly speaking so many negative aspects to the ruling planet can make any life goals difficult

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Sagittarius.
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Sagittarius.
so Jupiter in Gemini?

The planet that guides you to your life goals is getting massacred. Negative sign and negative aspects to it.

People will constantly seem like they're getting in your way or clouding your big picture. You might be tempted to think that even more time alone is the answer (and sometimes it is) but actually the worst fall-outs and arguments with these people will help make it clear that you're driven to do something about foreign travel, exploration, import export trading (like anyone from the peninsula who is completely corrupt likes to get into), publicity, exploration or less risky ventures like law, the church, philosophy writing or writing about travel.

The distance between your moon and your mother's moon in the POH gives a hint as to what childhood memories may factor into driving closer towards those pursuits.

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It is Cancer (first degree), Moon in Sag (last degree), so out of sign.

The feeling I have is that I'm really talented for a type of profession where boundaries are almost nonexistent, something that is extremely volatile in nature and spreads across many fields such as psychology, philosophy - maybe even astrology - business, sociology, etc. Obviously there is nothing comparable that merges all of the above in the peninsula, so I almost feel forced to move abroad, because US and Canada might possibly be the only countries in the world where what I have in mind is possible.

Struggle arises when what I deem to be very talented for it's again extremely volatile - it relies mostly on intuition - and from a sense of fairness and justice and I have innate towards people in general. I'd be good in speculating businesses but it disturbs me and it goes against my principles doing so at the detriment of other people and while dealing with shady characters like the ones you were mentioning before typical of field such as import-export.

I wouldn't be ok at the thought of ripping off people for living, so I'd like to think that if/when I get where I want to get it's because I'm actually very knowledgeable about what I'm doing, in a way where my contribution in the field is tangible. I do like to speak my mind and keeping it for myself would lead to me imploding when I'm all about expansion.

To speak my mind as regards interlaced issues that lack a clear structure, and doing so worldwide because it's the only way, is if I'm being honest a tad overwhelming, especially so if we consider Italy is pretty much a little garden compared to other nations. Plus the somehow humble Pisces Sun that would not stand being arrogant in the process, or coming across as someone who sells smoke in the end. Besides, it's hard to be certain you're not a fraud with regard to something that requires an high component of intuition, in a playing field that it's as wide as the world. If feels somehow like bragging about skills I may not actually possess.

Ultimately I'd like to deal with highly influential people in a position of power, let them run the show while from behind the scenes I'm running mine by making the whole process more efficient.





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Specifically when it comes to conflict with other people and getting in your way: it's conflicts over language, speech, movement, short-term travel, computers, cars, sales work or anything that puts your health in jeopardy to do with the lungs, shoulders. Those are the events around the ruling planet.
I pretty much only fight with people over their tone of voice; I don't get why some, to make their point come across, feel the need to yell or be verbally aggressive. Can they deliver the same message with a normal one? Considering that anyone, if s/he wanted, is capable of being sharp without necessarily shouting.



Ha! I feel like Vesta - conjunct sun and mercury - and square both moon and Jupiter as part of the t square is also among the 'reason' why it's hard sometimes to fully devote myself to a cause unless I really believe in it.



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It is Cancer (first degree), Moon in Sag (last degree), so out of sign.

The feeling I have is that I'm really talented for a type of profession where boundaries are almost nonexistent, something that is extremely volatile in nature and spreads across many fields such as psychology, philosophy - maybe even astrology - business, sociology, etc. Obviously there is nothing comparable that merges all of the above in the peninsula, so I almost feel forced to move abroad, because US and Canada might possibly be the only countries in the world where what I have in mind is possible.

Struggle arises when what I deem to be very talented for it's again extremely volatile - it relies mostly on intuition - and from a sense of fairness and justice and I have innate towards people in general. I'd be good in speculating businesses but it disturbs me and it goes against my principles doing so at the detriment of other people and while dealing with shady characters like the ones you were mentioning before typical of field such as import-export.

I wouldn't be ok at the thought of ripping off people for living, so I'd like to think that if/when I get where I want to get it's because I'm actually very knowledgeable about what I'm doing, in a way where my contribution in the field is tangible. I do like to speak my mind and keeping it for myself would lead to me imploding when I'm all about expansion.

To speak my mind as regards interlaced issues that lack a clear structure, and doing so worldwide because it's the only way, is if I'm being honest a tad overwhelming, especially so if we consider Italy is pretty much a little garden compared to other nations. Plus the somehow humble Pisces Sun that would not stand being arrogant in the process, or coming across as someone who sells smoke in the end. Besides, it's hard to be certain you're not a fraud with regard to something that requires an high component of intuition, in a playing field that it's as wide as the world. If feels somehow like bragging about skills I may not actually possess.

Ultimately I'd like to deal with highly influential people in a position of power, let them run the show while from behind the scenes I'm running mine by making the whole process more efficient.










That's a tall ask since it sounds like you're talking about a career where you enjoy the reward and others take the risk. Unless I misunderstood.

It sounds like you're looking for a career in academia.
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No, enjoying the rewards of others taking risk is just a no-no for me, which is why I'm saying measuring my actual contribution would be somehow important not to feel like a fraud. My impact must be tangible or it would mean I'm not practising by job properly.

In theory I'd like to be an I/O psychologist; dealing more with the pars costruens of the process rather than its actual implementation. Finding the missing links that are essential in the mechanism and hindering the growth of a business, by helping he personell draw out the best of the tools they have at disposal and if those tools are nonexistent finding a new way to make the same things happen.

A profession that it's people-oriented and manly focusing on human potential - I'd like to think people around me are becoming skilled and efficient; all this from an individualistic standpoint. Basically being pivotal in a process but at the same time being an external part of it. Mostly focusing on details albeit constantly looking at the bigger picture.

It's hard to explain but the risk it's in the fact that you're either really good or useless, which is not exactly a safe position to be in.

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It is Cancer (first degree), Moon in Sag (last degree), so out of sign.

The feeling I have is that I'm really talented for a type of profession where boundaries are almost nonexistent, something that is extremely volatile in nature and spreads across many fields such as psychology, philosophy - maybe even astrology - business, sociology, etc. Obviously there is nothing comparable that merges all of the above in the peninsula, so I almost feel forced to move abroad, because US and Canada might possibly be the only countries in the world where what I have in mind is possible.

Struggle arises when what I deem to be very talented for it's again extremely volatile - it relies mostly on intuition - and from a sense of fairness and justice and I have innate towards people in general. I'd be good in speculating businesses but it disturbs me and it goes against my principles doing so at the detriment of other people and while dealing with shady characters like the ones you were mentioning before typical of field such as import-export.

I wouldn't be ok at the thought of ripping off people for living, so I'd like to think that if/when I get where I want to get it's because I'm actually very knowledgeable about what I'm doing, in a way where my contribution in the field is tangible. I do like to speak my mind and keeping it for myself would lead to me imploding when I'm all about expansion.

To speak my mind as regards interlaced issues that lack a clear structure, and doing so worldwide because it's the only way, is if I'm being honest a tad overwhelming, especially so if we consider Italy is pretty much a little garden compared to other nations. Plus the somehow humble Pisces Sun that would not stand being arrogant in the process, or coming across as someone who sells smoke in the end. Besides, it's hard to be certain you're not a fraud with regard to something that requires an high component of intuition, in a playing field that it's as wide as the world. If feels somehow like bragging about skills I may not actually possess.

Ultimately I'd like to deal with highly influential people in a position of power, let them run the show while from behind the scenes I'm running mine by making the whole process more efficient.










That's a tall ask since it sounds like you're talking about a career where you enjoy the reward and others take the risk. Unless I misunderstood.

It sounds like you're looking for a career in academia.
No, enjoying the rewards of others taking risk is just a no-no for me, which is why I'm saying measuring my actual contribution would be somehow important not to feel like a fraud. My impact must be tangible or it would mean I'm not practising by job properly.

In theory I'd like to be an I/O psychologist; dealing more with the pars costruens of the process rather than its actual implementation. Finding the missing links that are essential in the mechanism and hindering the growth of a business, by helping he personell draw out the best of the tools they have at disposal and if those tools are nonexistent finding a new way to make the same things happen.

A profession that it's people-oriented and manly focusing on human potential - I'd like to think people around me are becoming skilled and efficient; all this from an individualistic standpoint. Basically being pivotal in a process but at the same time being an external part of it. Mostly focusing on details albeit constantly looking at the bigger picture.

It's hard to explain but the risk it's in the fact that you're either really good or useless, which is not exactly a safe position to be in.


Oh so essentially, consultancy.

What I mean by risk is that really anyone (except maybe in academia) always runs the risk of being questioned about whether they're selling smoke.
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A sort of, yes. Something similar to a Behavioral Analyst but working within a company that makes money, focusing on pattern recognition and interaction among the people in a workplace, using psychology to create business policies. Breaking down what's complex and then put it back together by offering solutions to fix inefficiencies; something like that.

Basically working on subtle processes so that the business runs smooth.

In a way my father - who is a sociologist - does something similar for a living but deals with the public sector - Ministry of Education, Economy, etc... which is extremely corrupt in Italy. You see stuff that are just hard to accept as a person who values ethics. The way money are spent here is absolutely depressing on every level. Honestly if I didn't know him I would think he's selling smoke, because end of the day he's supposedly perform the role of the Expert... now what the hell it means you're the Expert?

My point is that it's usually hard to assess the job of the one who does the assessing, hence the questioning. Thus it's more about me not questioning myself too much in the process rather than being ultimately scared of other's people judgement; I'm very adamant once I know the skills I need are acquired.

The only struggle I see is that it's hard to pinpoint what your actual skillset is / will be based on just your pathway of learning. Thus you may go all the way, on paper everything looks good, without having an actual confirmation in the process you'll be good at what you want to do because the only confirmation you can have will only come once you're part of something already. It's hard to feel fully prepared when something is ever-changing and variagated in nature, while spreading across different fields you can't actually delineate.

You really need to believe in yourself soundly not to have the feeling you're going blind, and negative aspects to Moon and Jupiter don't help much in that. Especially the Sag moon in 4th is strong and paradoxical, since it's suggesting me to reverse the natural order of things by turning my workplace into a familiar environment. Now if your workplace must feel home you need to recreate around you the perfect atmosphere, listening to yourself closely. A random job won't do it, I need to be me at work.

Sun/True Node midpoint activated by Ascendant

The tendency to want to form one's identity around goals held in common with other individuals or groups. One comes across as someone who can be connected with in a meaningful way. The need in relationships to always be exploring new meaning.



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