Cinderella
This topic was created in the Astrology forum by Ssasy on Tuesday, March 11, 2014 and has 26 replies.
SO, Im taking this english class that includes Folktales, Fables, etc.
One of the stories we read, was the original Cinderella story.
So the professor asks, do you think Cinderella wasa good role model for women?
Immediately all the females replied NO, she was a pshover and wanted a man to save her, she put up with too much BS, she was needy! LOL
What do you think?
&.............What sign do you think she was? LOL
One of the stories we read, was the original Cinderella story.
So the professor asks, do you think Cinderella wasa good role model for women?
Immediately all the females replied NO, she was a pshover and wanted a man to save her, she put up with too much BS, she was needy! LOL
What do you think?
&.............What sign do you think she was? LOL
I don't interprete the story that way. She never wished for a man to "save" her. She was a good person in a bad situation, but she never let it get the best of her; nor did she become vain, cynical, and/or mean-spirited even though she was surrounded by it.
She was authentic and joyful. She took pride in her work and was unceasingly thankful for the simple pleasures and small gifts afforded to her. Because she put good energy out into the universe, the same was returned to her times three. Even her Prince seems like a quality guy. When he was going door to door with the slipper, he insisted that *every* lady in the kingdom try it on - not just those who were "ladies" by birth. He also went door to door himself, instead of making some footman do it.
The story seems geared towards the importance of hard work and a humble attitude, both of which are virtues as far as I'm concerned.
She was authentic and joyful. She took pride in her work and was unceasingly thankful for the simple pleasures and small gifts afforded to her. Because she put good energy out into the universe, the same was returned to her times three. Even her Prince seems like a quality guy. When he was going door to door with the slipper, he insisted that *every* lady in the kingdom try it on - not just those who were "ladies" by birth. He also went door to door himself, instead of making some footman do it.
The story seems geared towards the importance of hard work and a humble attitude, both of which are virtues as far as I'm concerned.
Posted by Andalusia
I don't interprete the story that way. She never wished for a man to "save" her. She was a good person in a bad situation, but she never let it get the best of her; nor did she become vain, cynical, and/or mean-spirited even though she was surrounded by it.
She was authentic and joyful. She took pride in her work and was unceasingly thankful for the simple pleasures and small gifts afforded to her. Because she put good energy out into the universe, the same was returned to her times three. Even her Prince seems like a quality guy. When he was going door to door with the slipper, he insisted that *every* lady in the kingdom try it on - not just those who were "ladies" by birth. He also went door to door himself, instead of making some footman do it.
The story seems geared towards the importance of hard work and a humble attitude, both of which are virtues as far as I'm concerned.
-I agree!
These women who answered come off bitter to me, I actually responded the same way you did!
She was humble and actullay very patient with the difficult situation she was in...
I think it's just the era of those disney movies and the fact 'family' owns you that's as much justification I can give to Cinderella about staying home and loyal. Obviously if you put it in context today it won't hold up. Some women might prefer going the cinderella route as a model for devotion and kindness and inner strength to endure hardships. Others might just say gtfo and get a job and make your own happiness.
Posted by Andalusia
I don't interprete the story that way. She never wished for a man to "save" her. She was a good person in a bad situation, but she never let it get the best of her; nor did she become vain, cynical, and/or mean-spirited even though she was surrounded by it.
She was authentic and joyful. She took pride in her work and was unceasingly thankful for the simple pleasures and small gifts afforded to her. Because she put good energy out into the universe, the same was returned to her times three. Even her Prince seems like a quality guy. When he was going door to door with the slipper, he insisted that *every* lady in the kingdom try it on - not just those who were "ladies" by birth. He also went door to door himself, instead of making some footman do it.
The story seems geared towards the importance of hard work and a humble attitude, both of which are virtues as far as I'm concerned.
Agreed.
Cinderella rocks.
Cinderella is a Virgo.
Slightly off the topic but there's this visual novel game (?? Am not sure on its genre lol) under the title of 'cinders'..
A pretty nice neat game which you can guess out on its title.. based on that cinderella story..
In my opinion the game tries but much too hard on feminism propaganda.. (it's refreshing first few moments but every time you hear that cinder girl says -in a quite preaching tone- women should be this way or that way.. then it feels like as much oppressive as the pair view holders' mantra on how women should be and behave in a much more (gender)traditional way.. Why try to define the way one or other people live their life..)
Lol I babbled again..
Anyways the game has some twists on the original story and the art work is quite pretty..
And no I'm not working for the game company nor in any way am advertising their products..lol
A pretty nice neat game which you can guess out on its title.. based on that cinderella story..
In my opinion the game tries but much too hard on feminism propaganda.. (it's refreshing first few moments but every time you hear that cinder girl says -in a quite preaching tone- women should be this way or that way.. then it feels like as much oppressive as the pair view holders' mantra on how women should be and behave in a much more (gender)traditional way.. Why try to define the way one or other people live their life..)
Lol I babbled again..
Anyways the game has some twists on the original story and the art work is quite pretty..
And no I'm not working for the game company nor in any way am advertising their products..lol
Not pair view lol.. but opposite view* strange typo..
Posted by Prince_Pisces
Cinderella is my fav Disney princess ??? I always said if I had to work, id compare myself to Cinderella. Some hot blonde being forced to do stuff for a bunch of ugly, inferior people LOL!
LOVE IT! LOL
Posted by Erica1
Cinderella is a Virgo.
How so?
Posted by SsasyPosted by Erica1
Cinderella is a Virgo.
How so?click to expand
Disneystrology has her officially listed as a Virgo born September 6 with character traits "kind, persistent, expressive". She is also perfectionistic with her cleaning, demure, polished, reliable, and helpful.
One thing that I hate about Disney, other than setting unreal expectations for women..they changed a lot of stories from their original settings, either by over romanticizing them or just dismissing some gory details. I loved Andersen's stories because they are so..raw and human. The girl with the matchbox is my favorite one. And you just cannot do that to an Aries Moon..we're all about the stories, in full details.
""Cinderella": In the Brothers Grimm version, one of Cinderella's evil stepsisters cuts off her toes, and the other her heel so they can both fit into the tiny glass slipper. The prince is notified by little doves that there is blood on the shoe, and finally discovers that the true owner is Cinderella. Once the stepsisters realize that they should try to win favor with Cinderella (after all, she will be queen), they attend her wedding, only to have their eyes pecked out by birds. Did they deserve it? I'll let you decide, reader.
SOME OTHER SIDENOTES ON THIS STORY: Cinderella doesn't have a fairy godmother. Rather, she plants a tree by her mother's grave and prays under it every day. She finds her dresses to wear to each ball under the tree (there are three in the story, not one like in the movie). She is still helped by animals, though specifically birds, not mice. Also, she doesn't just lose her shoe because she is in a rush. The clever prince covers the steps in pitch to make her stick to them, but she only loses a shoe in the process."
Ugh Disney, stop fucking up my stories and show all the nitty gritty.
""Cinderella": In the Brothers Grimm version, one of Cinderella's evil stepsisters cuts off her toes, and the other her heel so they can both fit into the tiny glass slipper. The prince is notified by little doves that there is blood on the shoe, and finally discovers that the true owner is Cinderella. Once the stepsisters realize that they should try to win favor with Cinderella (after all, she will be queen), they attend her wedding, only to have their eyes pecked out by birds. Did they deserve it? I'll let you decide, reader.
SOME OTHER SIDENOTES ON THIS STORY: Cinderella doesn't have a fairy godmother. Rather, she plants a tree by her mother's grave and prays under it every day. She finds her dresses to wear to each ball under the tree (there are three in the story, not one like in the movie). She is still helped by animals, though specifically birds, not mice. Also, she doesn't just lose her shoe because she is in a rush. The clever prince covers the steps in pitch to make her stick to them, but she only loses a shoe in the process."
Ugh Disney, stop fucking up my stories and show all the nitty gritty.
Posted by Erica1Posted by SsasyPosted by Erica1
Cinderella is a Virgo.
How so?
Disneystrology has her officially listed as a Virgo born September 6 with character traits "kind, persistent, expressive". She is also perfectionistic with her cleaning, demure, polished, reliable, and helpful.click to expand
Eh ok i get it!
Posted by Damnata
One thing that I hate about Disney, other than setting unreal expectations for women..they changed a lot of stories from their original settings, either by over romanticizing them or just dismissing some gory details. I loved Andersen's stories because they are so..raw and human. The girl with the matchbox is my favorite one. And you just cannot do that to an Aries Moon..we're all about the stories, in full details.
""Cinderella": In the Brothers Grimm version, one of Cinderella's evil stepsisters cuts off her toes, and the other her heel so they can both fit into the tiny glass slipper. The prince is notified by little doves that there is blood on the shoe, and finally discovers that the true owner is Cinderella. Once the stepsisters realize that they should try to win favor with Cinderella (after all, she will be queen), they attend her wedding, only to have their eyes pecked out by birds. Did they deserve it? I'll let you decide, reader.
SOME OTHER SIDENOTES ON THIS STORY: Cinderella doesn't have a fairy godmother. Rather, she plants a tree by her mother's grave and prays under it every day. She finds her dresses to wear to each ball under the tree (there are three in the story, not one like in the movie). She is still helped by animals, though specifically birds, not mice. Also, she doesn't just lose her shoe because she is in a rush. The clever prince covers the steps in pitch to make her stick to them, but she only loses a shoe in the process."
Ugh Disney, stop fucking up my stories and show all the nitty gritty.
Walt Disney is a Sagittarius with a Libra moon, and he has no 8th house. in the pluto gemini generation in the 9th house. Happy happy is his forte. For the goodness and kindness of mankind.
It's too gruesome to read the Grimms tales. No young woman in the U.S. wants to hear that she can't get her one sided love in Little Mermaid, and actually loses out.
but it's a billion dollar franchise....soooo...happy happy it is. lol 
Posted by Prince_Pisces
Cinderella is my fav Disney princess ??? I always said if I had to work, id compare myself to Cinderella. Some hot blonde being forced to do stuff for a bunch of ugly, inferior people LOL!
OH MY GAHD, the way she moves reminds me of my Scorpio chick!!!
CINDERELLA IS A CAPRICORN.
I'M GLAD SSASY POSTED.
lisabeth and twinks,
I love newer Disney movies also. But I grew up on the old ones and I liked Anastasia..most of the other stories were..I don't know, hard to grasp for my infant mind. It seemed seriously biased with all the princes and stuff. There was a collection called "Immortal stories" in Romanian...it gathered all the stories around the globe in about 200 books or so. I loved reading those.
One thing people don't know about Disney, about his best friend UB Iwerks..a shy aries:
"Ub Iwerks was a Missouri-born animator and Walt Disney's oldest and closest friend. He was also the guy who invented Mickey Mouse.
You read that right. Before there was Disney, the multi-billion-dollar global conglomerate, there was just Walt, the young man kicking around at someone else's animation studio, and his buddy Ub, the guy doing the grunt work. Ub's first success as Walt's go-to guy was the creation of Oswald the Lucky Rabbit.
Which happened to look like Mickey Mouse, if some sadistic bastard had hung Mickey up by his ears for a week and a half. Unfortunately for Disney, Oswald the Lucky Rabbit was actually owned by Universal Studios, and Universal Studios decided itdidn't need Walt's involvement to keep this scrappy character going. So Walt asked his BFF Ub to whip up an Oswald 2.0.Iwerks not only conceptualized Mickey Mouse, he animated Mickey's first cartoon, all by himself. In fact, because Disney was shorthanded, Iwerks ended up animating Mickey's first five cartoons, plus the first Silly Symphonies.
So why have we never heard of him? Apparently, because Iwerks was shy and didn't have a very good sense of humor. Believe it or not, back in those days people thought Mickey Mouse was hilarious. Like, pee-your-pants, snort-milk-out-of-your-nose hilarious. And even though Iwerks was recognized as one of the most technically talented animators in the field, he just wasn't all that funny.
In the end, Disney himself said his friend's personality was the reason no one had ever heard of him. Iwerks was too shy to promote himself, and no one makes it in Hollywood without a little bravado. As a result, when people all over the planet see the face of one of the most recognizable characters in the history of human culture ... ... they think one word and one word only: "Disney."
I love newer Disney movies also. But I grew up on the old ones and I liked Anastasia..most of the other stories were..I don't know, hard to grasp for my infant mind. It seemed seriously biased with all the princes and stuff. There was a collection called "Immortal stories" in Romanian...it gathered all the stories around the globe in about 200 books or so. I loved reading those.
One thing people don't know about Disney, about his best friend UB Iwerks..a shy aries:
"Ub Iwerks was a Missouri-born animator and Walt Disney's oldest and closest friend. He was also the guy who invented Mickey Mouse.
You read that right. Before there was Disney, the multi-billion-dollar global conglomerate, there was just Walt, the young man kicking around at someone else's animation studio, and his buddy Ub, the guy doing the grunt work. Ub's first success as Walt's go-to guy was the creation of Oswald the Lucky Rabbit.
Which happened to look like Mickey Mouse, if some sadistic bastard had hung Mickey up by his ears for a week and a half. Unfortunately for Disney, Oswald the Lucky Rabbit was actually owned by Universal Studios, and Universal Studios decided itdidn't need Walt's involvement to keep this scrappy character going. So Walt asked his BFF Ub to whip up an Oswald 2.0.Iwerks not only conceptualized Mickey Mouse, he animated Mickey's first cartoon, all by himself. In fact, because Disney was shorthanded, Iwerks ended up animating Mickey's first five cartoons, plus the first Silly Symphonies.
So why have we never heard of him? Apparently, because Iwerks was shy and didn't have a very good sense of humor. Believe it or not, back in those days people thought Mickey Mouse was hilarious. Like, pee-your-pants, snort-milk-out-of-your-nose hilarious. And even though Iwerks was recognized as one of the most technically talented animators in the field, he just wasn't all that funny.
In the end, Disney himself said his friend's personality was the reason no one had ever heard of him. Iwerks was too shy to promote himself, and no one makes it in Hollywood without a little bravado. As a result, when people all over the planet see the face of one of the most recognizable characters in the history of human culture ... ... they think one word and one word only: "Disney."
^^And this is way Sag-Aries teams, be it Suns or Moons are awesome 
why*
Damnata, I liked that "shy" introverted Aries guy story.
I'm sure UB was happy he didnt have to be "out there" either. And Disney was more than happy to oblige and take Mickey off his hands. Mickey had to be shown, for people who enjoyed his style .
I'm sure UB was happy he didnt have to be "out there" either. And Disney was more than happy to oblige and take Mickey off his hands. Mickey had to be shown, for people who enjoyed his style .
Yup, they both got along great
Perfect partnership.
See folks, SHY Aries do exist...those mythical unicorns.
Perfect partnership.
See folks, SHY Aries do exist...those mythical unicorns.
Posted by Damnata
Yup, they both got along great
Perfect partnership.
See folks, SHY Aries do exist...those mythical unicorns.
thank you for sharing that story!!
I read cracked a lot..plenty of interesting stories.
I'd recommend that site to anyone.
I'd recommend that site to anyone.
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