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Jan 25, 2009Comments: 0 · Posts: 352 · Topics: 41
Some astrologers, like Jonathan Cainer say that there is no such thing as a cusp and that the signs switch over at a precise minute and that there is no half Aries/Pisces or Scorpio/Sagittarius. You can only be one of the other. A lot of people on here talk about being on the cusp. What do people think?
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Mar 09, 2009Comments: 0 · Posts: 678 · Topics: 16
I don't really necessarily know but I've been told that I'm on a Cancer/Leo cusp so I sometimes I'll try to find out how a cancer/leo personality is and see if I would relate. Some things I relate on and some things I don't, so I see it really as a hit and miss deal.
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Mar 09, 2009Comments: 0 · Posts: 678 · Topics: 16
I agree with you on that winterborn haha. Maybe I should be slapped, my bday is on the 20th lol. And sometimes I can be idiotic and crazy out of character haha!
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Jun 18, 2005Comments: 0 · Posts: 542 · Topics: 62
I can't really say.
I'm on the cancer/gem cusp but I also have cancer sun/gem moon so it could just be that
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Feb 29, 2008Comments: 0 · Posts: 1789 · Topics: 62
probably because people on cusps always lean to one sign more heavily than the other.
on a side note,
have you ever noticed that aries/taurus cusp have the most out of control people ever. heh i love that cusp the most
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Nov 08, 2006Comments: 37 · Posts: 4746 · Topics: 283
True to a point, technically (by arc) the sun can only be in one sign or the other, and that will be the sign you feel most like. However, i do believe there is a residual (lingering) influence as one sign waxes and wanes into the next. In that sense, i don't think it's stop and start/black and white. I believe there is a transitional grey area. I knew a scorpio cusper, right a 0-1 degree scorpio with no other planets in Libra, yet you could very easily sense a certain libraness about him. The stickiest part though, is astrologers do not agree entirely about what constitutes a true cusp.
Also, the Sun may not move into a new sign at "exactly" the same moment each and every year. Dates are general. So a sun-sign table, ephemeris or personal chart calculation is essential. Especially if you were born on an exact transition date (zero degrees), then of course, "exact" time of birth is critical to know one's actual sun-sign. Also, doctors should never round up or down your birthtime, as some doctors might.
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Jun 18, 2009Comments: 0 · Posts: 2999 · Topics: 75
well, i could never fully relate to my sign (leo). i'm not vain, extravagant, flashy, and full of myself. i do have expensive tastes but am quite the penny pincher. i buy most of my clothing from consignment shops/2nd hand stores for the simple reason that i find more original pieces. plus it's so much cheaper! when i found out about the cusp thing, it made more sense to me. i related more to it. i still see more leo traits in me but there is definitely virgo influence on the inside (especially when it comes to business matters!).
the leo-virgo cusp especially hits the nail on the head when it talks about the curious mixture of introvert/extravert. i definitely feel like both. i can be the life of the party or the center of attention, but i'd much rather not. i exude a warmth that can draw ppl in, and am very loving, but even when surrounded by an adoring crowd, i need to get away for a few minutes and take a break from it. i'm notorious for hitting up the bathroom, or taking a short jaunt outside, just to get away from it all.
not sure if i believe in cusps, cuz i don't believe in much of anything, but all i can say is that i relate to it more. my moon really is in virgo too.
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May 25, 2007Comments: 0 · Posts: 4843 · Topics: 30
I do not believe in cusps. I am an April 21st Bull which would put me RIGHT on the cusp, but there is nothing "aries" about me except my temper and drive when I'm challenged/threatened, which makes sense considering my aries moon - my only aries placement and my only aries tendencies.
Im born not very long after aquarius goes into to pisces,not very long as in I know it could be anywhere in the range of 8 hours starting from 12 pm(being the latest time that Im aware of to still be aqua).I was born at 8:28pm and I'm technicaly pisces,0 degrees. but im not sure how long my mum was in labour for.
When I read descriptions of both signs I definitely have traits of both,but some alot more than others,its like a big handfull of traits were scooped out of the trait bin and somehow slaped together using the parts at hand to make a whole,while bringing in all new traits to the equation from wierd reactions with foreign elements
Aries moon and virgo rising also adds another kinda freakish flavor to it all.
How long does it take for a rising sign to transit?because apparently my rising is only slightly off being taurus by one or two degrees.im wondering wether that would be unusual or not to have a cusping rising
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Jul 08, 2009Comments: 5 · Posts: 4081 · Topics: 4
Name: Astrolabe Customer
February 20 1972
7:45 AM Time Zone is EST
Flint, MI
Rising Sign is in 06 Degrees Pisces.
Sun is in 00 Degrees Pisces.
Moon is in 15 Degrees Taurus.
Mercury is in 03 Degrees Pisces.
Venus is in 11 Degrees Aries.
Mars is in 06 Degrees Taurus.
I *have* to believe in cusps - it's the only logical explanation for my being SUCH a Pisces, yet these odd little "Aqua quirks"... I even amuse myself by finding the 25% or so of Aquarius that matches me, and is NOT Pisces-like, in horoscopes, readings, compatibility, etc.. I have Aquarius tendencies, yet NO Aqua in my chart?! Yeah, it's the cusp. If Mom's labor had been just a bit shorter, I'd probably be an airy Aqua gal -- with strange little Pisces-like sensitivities making everyone question if I'm really an Aqua. (And I wouldn't be - I'd be an Aqua on the Pisces cusp, and an enigma anyway!)
Pisces - SO emotional
Aqua - SO unemotional
ME - SO screwed up LOL
To me cusps are complete BS.
1. Often, the real cause of the cusp problem is that someone was actually born into the 'other sign' (e.g., say the sun switched from Libra to Scorpio on the 23rd of October instead of the 22nd at 1am, and someone born at 12am didn't know that--they might go there whole life thinking they're a Scorpio when they're actually a Libra). If you are born on the day that the sign changes over, it is imperative that you know *exactly* what time and place you were born.
2. Sometimes, if someone is adopted or if records are lost, or if for some other reason their real birthdate is unknown (which isn't as common today but still technically possible), a false birthdate might be created for them and therefore they might end up being labelled as the wrong sign.
3. Often, one has Mercury or Venus in a sign close to one's own (Mercury can only be your sign and the signs immediately preceding and succeeding your sign; Venus can only be two signs away from your own sign or in your own sign). Thus, if the sun sign and Mercury sign are different, and one is born close to the cusp, the person might fall into the cusp myth.
4. Sometimes, you can have the Moon, Ascendant, or other placements in a sign next to yours; if you're born near the cusp, again, that might make you believe that it's the cusp thing when it's really not. (Especially if the planets are in the first house).
One cannot be born into two signs. You are either one sign or another. The sun is only in one sign at a time. Therefore, even if you're born just minutes after the sun changes from one sign to another, you're still as much the second sign as if you had been born later in the sign.
**something else I forgot to mention:
5. Neighboring signs do share some traits. (e.g., both Pisces and Aquarius tend to be very creative and artsy--at least those I've known). Even though neighboring signs are very different, there is always something that both of them share. Often, neighboring signs have a teacher-student relationship, with the 'older' sign (the later sign) teaching the preceding ('younger') sign.
**gaaaaah keep forgetting stuff today **
6. Also, if you have an active house of the sign that you're on the cusp of--or if that planet figures very prominently in your chart (e.g., if you're on the cusp of Libra and Scorpio and are a Libra, this would mean your 7th house and Venus) that might also be a factor.
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Mar 18, 2006Comments: 2 · Posts: 23862 · Topics: 499
Okay, here's the real deal here:
If you don't believe in cusps, then you don't believe in decans. And if theres no such thing as decan or cusps -- in which make what we know today as the zodiac -- then theres no point in believing in astrology altogether ^_^.
The zodiac does not exist without degrees, therefore we have the cusp periods because of the ending and the beginning -- and the decans in which the signs themselves are derived from.
Yes, its obvious if you know what you're looking at. The science of it is simple. Astrologers cannot agree on cusps because science is very complex and its not meant to be literal because the universal makeup continues to evolve -- i.e. age of Aquarius, once this passes, the next age will have a totally different effect.
Everything in the world of discovery is very relative and not absolute.
So in conclusion, do cusps exist? Of course they do, if they didn't not exist then what they are dervied from does not exist. As a result, astrology in nothing more than a blur.
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May 25, 2007Comments: 0 · Posts: 4843 · Topics: 30
decans and cusps are not the same thing.... you can believe in one and not believe in the other.......... and if you didn't believe in either you could still believe in astrology in general.