Does anyone else think....

Capricorns should be a fixed sign?
These folks are very stubborn and strong-willed. If you want to know what I mean, watch a marathon. They never give up.

I don't think that Capricorn represents the Fixed modality.

Bcoz taurus is more stubborn than cappies and virgo is not capable of ruling, there was no one else left to take the position of cardinal sign.

If you condense Capricorn - Capricorn becomes brittlesque breaks up and implodes, Saturn is a gaseous planet. We have to always go back to or lean on esoterical ideas which I think can be proven in a more grounded 'scientific' sense, for example it might be possible to computerize and calculate the rate of condensation of every single individual human being.

I can go through the entire zodiac -

When you condense Aries - Aries turns into ironore.

When you condense Taurus and Libra they turn into shapes.

When you condense Gemini and Virgo they turn into a rocky fabric, Mercury being a rocky planet so I will say that when you condense Mercury people they turn into granite.

When you condense Cancer you get smooth marblesque surfaces (such as naturally occurring polished stones with smooth surfaces).

When you condese Leo - Leo will implode - afterall Leo is ruled by the gaseous sun.

When you condese Scorpio all you get is the Void - that's it, Some Pluto Scorpio ruled people have a very quick rate of condensation that is they void very quickly - condense some Scorpios and they void very fast - this is the so called 'placidity' that one might notice in some Scorpios, other Scorpios have a slower rate of condensation due to other influences in their nativities.

When you condense Sagittarius, Sagittarius implodes that's it - Jupiter is a gaseous planet.

When you condense Aquarius - Aquarius will also implode ruled by gaseous Uranus.

Same for Pisces.

If you were to keep condensing Aries then what you will get is liquid metal but then remember that Aries is ruled by a rocky terrestrial planet I am simply stretching an esoterical idea - cool of this liquid metal 'ironore' and you are just left with what has remained from your further condensation the lava which has solodified again but has already lost some of its organic form due to intense condensation and hence through evaporation. But basically if you were to condense Aries - Aries turns into something solid such as condensed ironore. Condense Cancer and you might consider smooth marblesque surfaces - afterall Cancer is ruled by a rocky planetoid - the Moon.

Condense Mercury you get the rocks - granite, condense Mercury even further and shall I say we get Mercury balls? Not a bad speculation since when you further condense something rocky you get (or extract) a certain alchemical essence that is embedded within a solid material (such as rocks) and what is 'rocky' tends to be an unmollified naturally occuring product - unless you condense and extract a precious essence from the raw product - for example such as precious stones.

'solidified'.

thelibran,

I like the way you said it. It goes to show you know your signs.

Good day to everyone.

Thanks Zlatina. 🙂

((I think Capricorn should be given it's own element.

And have watery tendencies.))

"Slime" perhaps?? 😛

lol

no. they're firestarters

No, I don't think Capricorn should be a fixed sign....I believe the element says more about the quality of the capricornian temperment than the modality....The Earthen nature and approach to life is to be practical, unrelenting, and fixed.....now the mode is auxilary (supportive) to the elements:

for example: Because Capricorn is an earth sign, the traits posted above will be expressed initially becuase cardinal energy is meant to be initiative or action oriented....that's why capricorns look at life a fight to the top, that expresses the modality cardinal (movement) to go to the top of the corperate/financial world: the money happens to be just a practical means to express their drive and ambition for all things at the top. Earth is about what is shown, and seen for a fact, but how can we express our drive and stubborness through anything other than our physical efforts?

Taurus is next....nough said.....just stubborn.....the fixed tempermant along with the earthen element placed here really says it all....just a 'stubborn bull' not to say that's best a bull can be, but that's the theory of the element and modality combo.


Virgo (now my belief is Virgo is an Air sign but has been placed as an earth sign to keep the fair progression of the signs going) is tricky....It's cerebral, and rather detatched from the daily goings on and uses it's head to figure things out and makes decisions often free from personal effect. Personally, I can't stand dealing with the everyday happenings becuase I get rather dejected when I see that there is really nothing more to life than the routine layed before me.....I need to change which in my belief is more due to my natural element rather than my modality....an truly earthy/mutable force would primarily be focused on adaptation to everyday life, and I actually resent it....

Yes, I'm introverted, (but that's based on feeling rather than fear or distaste of socializing) I have explosive amounts of energy, but strong feelings, and when my feelings are hurt I snap back.....(all thanks to the moon in cancer and mars in aries: the crab can't let go and the ram just delivers the pain, then I have such a serious face becuase of the rising in Capricorn I give off a look and behavior of a Scorpion)

This is all theoretical, but that's really astrology for you....speculation, theory, and extrapolation...

interesting, VE....



tell me more.

You might consider that Virgo represents the Feminine "night forces" of Mercury and you might also consider that Mercury is hermaphroditic - Masculine 'day forces' and Feminine 'night forces'. In the Linda Goodmanesque sense Virgo is also ruled by the undiscovered "thunderous" planet Vulcan - an undiscovered planetoid, to explain this concept of "thunder" as it relates with Virgo I might say or considering lightening striking the ground - the more pointdextrous, precise and pontificating side of Mercury. And even if this so called planetoid Vulcan gets discovered Virgo will nevertheless remain an mild octave of Gemini since Mercury is still both of them. Mutable signs are tend to be mild octaves off each other. Leo an octave of Aquarius? probably not not that these two don't reflex - this is why these signs do resemble each other superficially but that's it.

'consider'.

Jeez I'm thinking too fast there goes my sentence structures.

You could say the same about Aquarius the 'water bearer' with water tendencies but then this would essentially be a zodiacal contradiction a "doesn't make sense" kind of contradiction.

I don't remember meeting any truly introverted Virgos although within a traditional astrological association Virgos might be considerd as loners/bachelors/bachelorettes but not distictly introverted afterall all Virgo is ruled by an extraordinarily communicative and Mutable planet Mercury. I would think that Taurus would be at this sign's very essence deeply introverted and maybe Capricorn also - that deep conservative Saturnish introversion as the stereotype.

Yes, we do have some 'mercurial' talkative Virgos Mr. Stickler, but mercury in virgo (becuase virgo is SUPPOSED to be a feminine sign and an earth sign, which dictates a practical and functional personality as opposed to a more personal outlook) dosen't make the person theoretically extraverted becuase the quality of the sign comes before the planetary influence, and besides Virgo dosen't simply talk for talkings sake and since earth is the element here, the general Virgoan approach/philosophy is 'talk with intent' not just idle banter....that's becuase Virgos nature is to be pensive, practical, and cool becuase of the cerebrality and the earthen nature.

Now, there are also hidden depths that have yet to be really discused becuase astrologers are even thrown for a loop at the arbitrition and volaltile nature of the sign....if Virgo was stripped of her burden mercury, the very nature of the WHOLE sign would change drastically.

This sign exists in so much flux, and mystery it's hard to get it right: Virgo really exists in a matter of speculation and abstract thought as nothing (despite the element she's assigned to) is set in stone with her....we don't even have a planetary ruler of our own, so Mr. Stickler the TRUEST nature of the Virgoan character can't be known for certain until the day we find a home of our own...