Empty fifth house :(

This topic was created in the Astrology forum by anna1 on Monday, July 18, 2016 and has 20 replies.
What does it tell about having children ? I have an empty fifth house and the sign on the cusp of fifth house is Gemini whose ruler is in 2nd house. What will astrology tell me about the possibility of having kids ?



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But I WANT kids. I dream of having kids someday
https://skywriter.wordpress.com/2011/07/31/full-houses-vs-empty-houses-in-your-chart-what-to-expect/

Full houses depict highly significant areas of life, where we put lots of eggs in a single basket. Where we expend our energy is where we tend to get results, so a full house is an area where meaningful people, situations, and events are clustered.

If you have several good planets in the eleventh house but nothing in the fourth, friends will be major supports and may outweigh family in importance in adulthood. Likewise, club officers often have significant eleventh house placements.

The matters associated with a house with a stellium or the Sun and one or two other planets can even be a career indicator. For instance, a friend with a stellium in the third house started a very successful answering service. A travel agent had several planets in the ninth house. Many academics or spiritual teachers also have a ninth house emphasis. The eighth house can show mediumistic tendencies, when strong, and also is one indicator of the potential for wealth.

Empty houses or sectors indicate that major planetary energy isn’t being deployed toward matters of that house, but instead is focused elsewhere. Therefore, matters of that house are apt to take a back seat to matters of houses where planets are massed. A woman with no planets in the fourth or fifth but the Moon in the tenth is likely to be more fulfilled as a career woman than as a traditional homemaker.

Just don’t conclude that an empty house means nothing will ever happen in the areas of life that house governs. One of Jeanne Dixon’s empty houses is the third, signifying communication, and yet her columns and books have been the foundation of her success. We would look to Mercury and to Gemini, since they are related to the third house. They more than compensate for the empty house, because she has Gemini rising and Mercury conjunct the Midheaven.

Many novices freak out if their seventh house is vacant, thinking it means they will never marry. Consider what else in the chart may compensate. How strong is their Venus? Do they have major placements in Libra, especially the Sun, Moon, or Ascendant? Librans tend to marry, whether their choices are sound ones or not.

Where is the ruler of the seventh house? If the ruler of the seventh is in the fourth and the fourth is strongly tenanted, then forming a family and maintaining a home life is a stronger drive than marriage itself. The marriage may be a means to that end.

Another thing to consider is that houses that are empty at birth don’t remain empty throughout life. Transiting or progressed planets that move into an empty house tend to remain there for years. They stimulate new events and conditions in the matters of that house.


A long transit of an outer planet through the second house corresponds with a long series of developments in the individual’s finances. If there are no planets in the second natally, that transit means the individual will devote an unaccustomed amount of attention to earning and managing money.,


Dont think like that :O

You WILL have kids! Not everyone has planets in 5th smile
Noo don't worry, empty houses aren't really big of a deal. I'm pretty sure it doesn't affect you when it comes to children. smile
Posted by starlover
""Empty houses or sectors indicate that major planetary energy isn’t being deployed toward matters of that house, but instead is focused elsewhere. Therefore, matters of that house are apt to take a back seat to matters of houses where planets are massed. A woman with no planets in the fourth or fifth but the Moon in the tenth is likely to be more fulfilled as a career woman than as a traditional homemaker"".

Not true.....home and family always come first for me
Not true for me either I love my home and family. It comes above everything else

Posted by starlover
I have an empty 5th in cancer and have a son

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Glad to hear that smile

they say empty 7th means no marriages. lol

I got married. and I've had marriage offers in the past.

soooooo............ something ain't right.

so I guess empty 5th means LESS HEDONISTIC pleasures.

Laughing


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Yeah, anna1, I'm not sure if what I quoted was misread or misinterpreted to say the opposite of what it actually says but it pretty much says you can have children and that just because you have an empty house does not mean you wont have what the house represents.

It also goes on to say that if you have planets elsewhere you should have important things happen in the house where those are. This does not mean nothing happens elsewhere.

Posted by hollyhock
I also have an empty 5th house with gemini cusp and I don't have kids. I don't see myself having kids either. I don't think it is so much the empty house but the sign of the house (gemini is a barren sign apparently).


Yeah this is making me so worried because gemeni is a barren sign as well Sad

Posted by Instantkarma
Empty fifth doesn't equate no children.. Lol

Its like saying all Geminis are cheats!

Big Grin


lol

Anyone with leo 5th house conjunct moon?
That's not how it goes with empty houses, it's not like - you don't have that house in your chart... If that was the case - then you wouldn't have a childhood, you wouldn't have an inner child - that's fond of entertainment and creative stuff, even romance... if not especially. Thus, you wouldn't be able to fall in love - you wouldn't even know what it's like. Imagine how that would go - for someone with an empty first house/ASC... faceless people without a personality, a new breed altogether - living among us... ^^

Nah, it's nothing like that. If you had some planets in the 5'th house - those planets would also influence - your approach to child related stuff - starting with your inner child and... your future children. Might even define their personalities. Though, with an empty 5'th house - this house is simply less influential overall - compared to the ones with planets. And yet, there's still some available info - which can be tied to children, as in:

The ruling planet of your 5'th house - of Gemini (Mercury) is in 2nd house. Thus, you might postpone the idea of having children - till you feel like reached a place of financial stability. So, don't worry... as long as you want children - when you'll feel ready you could give it a try. As far astrology goes - there's nothing showing otherwise.

Even more than that... there's people with a heavy 5'th house - whom might be against the idea of having children - exactly for that reason (cause of those planets). I know a Leo with his Sun in 5'th house and 2 other planets in Virgo and he's to self-centered - he's to hooked on entertainment and his own inner child - to make room for others. Because with 5'th house in Leo - the ruling planet is actually in the 5'th house, so it's all about him. Thus, he rejects the idea of having children - and that won't change unless he changes... or maybe a women could change his mind some day. ^^
Posted by neves
That's not how it goes with empty houses, it's not like - you don't have that house in your chart... If that was the case - then you wouldn't have a childhood, you wouldn't have an inner child - that's fond of entertainment and creative stuff, even romance... if not especially. Thus, you wouldn't be able to fall in love - you wouldn't even know what it's like. Imagine how that would go - for someone with an empty first house/ASC... faceless people without a personality, a new breed altogether - living among us... ^^

Nah, it's nothing like that. If you had some planets in the 5'th house - those planets would also influence - your approach to child related stuff - starting with your inner child and... your future children. Might even define their personalities. Though, with an empty 5'th house - this house is simply less influential overall - compared to the ones with planets. And yet, there's still some available info - which can be tied to children, as in:

The ruling planet of your 5'th house - of Gemini (Mercury) is in 2nd house. Thus, you might postpone the idea of having children - till you feel like reached a place of financial stability. So, don't worry... as long as you want children - when you'll feel ready you could give it a try. As far astrology goes - there's nothing showing otherwise.

Even more than that... there's people with a heavy 5'th house - whom might be against the idea of having children - exactly for that reason (cause of those planets). I know a Leo with his Sun in 5'th house and 2 other planets in Virgo and he's to self-centered - he's to hooked on entertainment and his own inner child - to make room for others. Because with 5'th house in Leo - the ruling planet is actually in the 5'th house, so it's all about him. Thus, he rejects the idea of having children - and that won't change unless he changes... or maybe a women could change his mind some day. ^^


Thankyou for such detailed explanations. It makes me feel good smile

Posted by tiziani
Empty houses are pretty neutral, neither good nor bad.

You won't have any birth chart energy focused there, but you will have transits in Gemini that affect that house.


Yeah and I have Jupiter in fifth house as well in transits chart

Posted by tiziani
Empty houses are pretty neutral, neither good nor bad.

You won't have any birth chart energy focused there, but you will have transits in Gemini that affect that house.
That's true, transits - are quite potent at shaking the empty houses. In which way... that depends on ones evolution through life. With 5'th house (for example), it all starts with the early moments of our childhood - when we learn how to play and have fun. Then, couple of years latter - we're starting to show some creative potential (the 2nd step). Next, as we're approaching puberty - we get some taste of romance - our first crushes (the 3rd step). While the 4'th step that can be linked to the 5'th house - is obviously... children.

Transits - can enhance/enrich/expands - each of those steps. Which for us translates in experience (leveling up - as they put it in video games).

Other than transits, we can check the Solar Returns - cause some of them happen to place a lot of focus on a given house (the 5'th house - in this case). Their influence can be felt the whole year (till next Solar Return).

And also - the Progressed chart, where both the signs and the house change (with next signs/houses).

Posted by anna1

Yeah and I have Jupiter in fifth house as well in transits chart

Jupiter is transiting Virgo right now. Was already in Gemini 2013/2014 and will return in Gemini in 2025. Jupiter is a bit slower - and need 12 years to get in same point again.

Though, in your natal chart - you have Jupiter in 6'th house, so maybe it already shifted in 5'th house - in your Progressed chart.

You're welcome. smile



I have 6 planets in the 5th.

Not one damn kid.

Another astrology plot twist
Posted by anna1
Posted by hollyhock
I also have an empty 5th house with gemini cusp and I don't have kids. I don't see myself having kids either. I don't think it is so much the empty house but the sign of the house (gemini is a barren sign apparently).


Yeah this is making me so worried because gemeni is a barren sign as well Sad

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