Fire, Water, Earth, and Air. Thinking out loud.
This topic was created in the Astrology forum by WitchmitchAries on Monday, May 1, 2017 and has 22 replies.
I was watch a video with Dr.Helen Fisher. In part of the video she talks about the four personality traits. Got me thinking about the 4 elements. Fun how some things pop up in my head. Well i started to think that the person who start the 4 elements and used them in horoscopes was also studing personality traits. So we have the 4 elements
Fire Signs
"Fire Signs" express the warming, radiating, energizing life principle which can manifest as enthusiasm, faith, encouragement, and the drive to express self.
Earth Signs
"Earth Signs" reveal an attunement with the world of physical forms and a practical ability to utilize and improve the material world.
Air Signs
"Air Signs" are correlated with the mind's sensation, perception, and expression, especially related to personal interaction and to geometrical thought forms and abstract ideas.
Water Signs
"Water Signs" symbolize the cooling, healing principle of sensitivity, feeling response, and empathy with others.
Now Dr Helen Fisher's 4 Personality Traits
Dopamine - Explorer: (curious/energetic)
Serotonin - Builder: (cautious/social norm conforming)
Testosterone - Director: (Analytical/tough-minded)
Estrogen - Negotiator: (pro-social/empathetic)
so one in ancient times was study the 4 personality traits and gave them fire, water, earth, and air.
What do you think?
Fire Signs
"Fire Signs" express the warming, radiating, energizing life principle which can manifest as enthusiasm, faith, encouragement, and the drive to express self.
Earth Signs
"Earth Signs" reveal an attunement with the world of physical forms and a practical ability to utilize and improve the material world.
Air Signs
"Air Signs" are correlated with the mind's sensation, perception, and expression, especially related to personal interaction and to geometrical thought forms and abstract ideas.
Water Signs
"Water Signs" symbolize the cooling, healing principle of sensitivity, feeling response, and empathy with others.
Now Dr Helen Fisher's 4 Personality Traits
Dopamine - Explorer: (curious/energetic)
Serotonin - Builder: (cautious/social norm conforming)
Testosterone - Director: (Analytical/tough-minded)
Estrogen - Negotiator: (pro-social/empathetic)
so one in ancient times was study the 4 personality traits and gave them fire, water, earth, and air.
What do you think?
i think
Dopamine is fire
Serotonin is earth
Testosterone is water
Estogen is air
Dopamine is fire
Serotonin is earth
Testosterone is water
Estogen is air
Posted by infireswhat element are you? fire?!
dope is everything ?
Posted by infiresi did this more detail chart thing. these are the percents of each elementPosted by WitchmitchAriesYeahPosted by infireswhat element are you? fire?!
dope is everything ?well atleast my ☀
But personality wise more like airclick to expand
Fire: 152.1 / 25.6%
Earth: 177.3 / 29.8%
Air: 116.3 / 19.6%
Water: 148.3 / 25.0%
so my earth is more then the others lol i need more air i think.
Posted by infiresnot sure. still learning this stuff. i dont know how to match anything. lolPosted by WitchmitchAriesPosted by infiresi did this more detail chart thing. these are the percents of each elementPosted by WitchmitchAriesYeahPosted by infireswhat element are you? fire?!
dope is everything ?
But personality wise more like air
Fire: 152.1 / 25.6%
Earth: 177.3 / 29.8%
Air: 116.3 / 19.6%
Water: 148.3 / 25.0%
so my earth is more then the others lol i need more air i think.
Ah that's what you mean. mines earth and air are equal with maybe more earth
do you think it matches your personalityclick to expand
very interesting. I like the comparision. even if it needs time and knowledge about what each hormone does. Estrogene for example. It seems I have little of Air. So...
this is the video of Dr Helen Fisher if anyone want to watch it
Posted by YasmineMinNon of the make you lethargic. thats most likely something else. i would guess you are Estrogen type presonality
I am probably whichever chemical makes you lethargic. If anyone coukd guess my dominant elements I woukd be suprised, but maybe it's obvious I dont know lol
Posted by DwellingOnMovethink about air slowly moves things like water, earth and fire. air has that soothing feel to like estrogene in the nuturing hormone. air seems to have that trait.
very interesting. I like the comparision. even if it needs time and knowledge about what each hormone does. Estrogene for example. It seems I have little of Air. So...
Take the facts we know for sure in psychology and mix it with astrology. i think something cool would come out of that reseach.
Posted by YasmineMinlol you didnt seem like the kind of person ' my way or the high' type. testosterone seem like that to me. 'this is how its done, do it this way or get the hell out of here'Posted by WitchmitchAriesTestosterone actually ... what made you think estrogen?Posted by YasmineMinNon of the make you lethargic. thats most likely something else. i would guess you are Estrogen type presonality
I am probably whichever chemical makes you lethargic. If anyone coukd guess my dominant elements I woukd be suprised, but maybe it's obvious I dont know lol
Lol no Im just kidding, I think Im a estrogen type personality. Im def more feminine in my opinion. Heheclick to expand
got to love testosterones. hehe
Posted by WitchmitchAriesFire : 125.2 /22.6%Posted by infiresi did this more detail chart thing. these are the percents of each elementPosted by WitchmitchAriesYeahPosted by infireswhat element are you? fire?!
dope is everything ?
But personality wise more like air
Fire: 152.1 / 25.6%
Earth: 177.3 / 29.8%
Air: 116.3 / 19.6%
Water: 148.3 / 25.0%
so my earth is more then the others lol i need more air i think.click to expand
Earth : 134.4 / 24.3%
Air : 117.9 / 21.3%
Water : 175.9 / 31.8%
Posted by Ram416for a minute there i thought yours was going to be like mine. lol so yours is more water and mine is more earth which means there are 2 more twins out there, one fire and one air. we need to find our other twins. a 4 some.Posted by WitchmitchAriesFire : 125.2 /22.6%Posted by infiresi did this more detail chart thing. these are the percents of each elementPosted by WitchmitchAriesYeahPosted by infireswhat element are you? fire?!
dope is everything ?
But personality wise more like air
Fire: 152.1 / 25.6%
Earth: 177.3 / 29.8%
Air: 116.3 / 19.6%
Water: 148.3 / 25.0%
so my earth is more then the others lol i need more air i think.
Earth : 134.4 / 24.3%
Air : 117.9 / 21.3%
Water : 175.9 / 31.8%click to expand
Posted by WitchmitchAries@raad182Posted by Ram416for a minute there i thought yours was going to be like mine. lol so yours is more water and mine is more earth which means there are 2 more twins out there, one fire and one air. we need to find our other twins. a 4 some.Posted by WitchmitchAriesFire : 125.2 /22.6%Posted by infiresi did this more detail chart thing. these are the percents of each elementPosted by WitchmitchAriesYeahPosted by infireswhat element are you? fire?!
dope is everything ?
But personality wise more like air
Fire: 152.1 / 25.6%
Earth: 177.3 / 29.8%
Air: 116.3 / 19.6%
Water: 148.3 / 25.0%
so my earth is more then the others lol i need more air i think.
Earth : 134.4 / 24.3%
Air : 117.9 / 21.3%
Water : 175.9 / 31.8%
click to expand
I think he might be air dominant
Posted by YasmineMinlol i am a venus pisces too. small world. lol my mother was that way. always had to have things her way.Posted by WitchmitchAriesInteresting lol that's like my Gemini grandma. In fact I think a lot of the women in my family are kind of Alpha types ?Posted by YasmineMinlol you didnt seem like the kind of person ' my way or the high' type. testosterone seem like that to me. 'this is how its done, do it this way or get the hell out of here'Posted by WitchmitchAriesTestosterone actually ... what made you think estrogen?Posted by YasmineMinNon of the make you lethargic. thats most likely something else. i would guess you are Estrogen type presonality
I am probably whichever chemical makes you lethargic. If anyone coukd guess my dominant elements I woukd be suprised, but maybe it's obvious I dont know lol
Lol no Im just kidding, I think Im a estrogen type personality. Im def more feminine in my opinion. Heheclick to expand
Posted by WitchmitchAriesGirl...hide your other posts lol...triple posting.Posted by Ram416is he an astro twin to us?Posted by WitchmitchAries@raad182Posted by Ram416for a minute there i thought yours was going to be like mine. lol so yours is more water and mine is more earth which means there are 2 more twins out there, one fire and one air. we need to find our other twins. a 4 some.Posted by WitchmitchAriesFire : 125.2 /22.6%Posted by infiresi did this more detail chart thing. these are the percents of each elementPosted by WitchmitchAriesYeahPosted by infireswhat element are you? fire?!
dope is everything ?
But personality wise more like air
Fire: 152.1 / 25.6%
Earth: 177.3 / 29.8%
Air: 116.3 / 19.6%
Water: 148.3 / 25.0%
so my earth is more then the others lol i need more air i think.
Earth : 134.4 / 24.3%
Air : 117.9 / 21.3%
Water : 175.9 / 31.8%
I think he might be air dominantclick to expand
To answer your question, yes he is. Aries sun/Gem rising/Scorpio moon - but he's a Pluto Scorpio.
Posted by MissDiamondreally. why?Posted by WitchmitchAriesI think testosterone is Air and estrogen is Water.
i think
Dopamine is fire
Serotonin is earth
Testosterone is water
Estogen is airclick to expand
Posted by WitchmitchAriesYour post came up 3 times. I quoted from the 4th one.Posted by Ram416i am not seeing triple post. what do you mean?Posted by WitchmitchAriesGirl...hide your other posts lol...triple posting.Posted by Ram416is he an astro twin to us?Posted by WitchmitchAries@raad182Posted by Ram416for a minute there i thought yours was going to be like mine. lol so yours is more water and mine is more earth which means there are 2 more twins out there, one fire and one air. we need to find our other twins. a 4 some.Posted by WitchmitchAriesFire : 125.2 /22.6%Posted by infiresi did this more detail chart thing. these are the percents of each elementPosted by WitchmitchAriesYeahPosted by infireswhat element are you? fire?!
dope is everything ?
But personality wise more like air
Fire: 152.1 / 25.6%
Earth: 177.3 / 29.8%
Air: 116.3 / 19.6%
Water: 148.3 / 25.0%
so my earth is more then the others lol i need more air i think.
Earth : 134.4 / 24.3%
Air : 117.9 / 21.3%
Water : 175.9 / 31.8%
I think he might be air dominant
To answer your question, yes he is. Aries sun/Gem rising/Scorpio moon - but he's a Pluto Scorpio.click to expand
Posted by Ram416weird why is do that. yea i close and came back then i saw them. lol i am fixing them nowPosted by WitchmitchAriesYour post came up 3 times. I quoted from the 4th one.Posted by Ram416i am not seeing triple post. what do you mean?Posted by WitchmitchAriesGirl...hide your other posts lol...triple posting.Posted by Ram416is he an astro twin to us?Posted by WitchmitchAries@raad182Posted by Ram416for a minute there i thought yours was going to be like mine. lol so yours is more water and mine is more earth which means there are 2 more twins out there, one fire and one air. we need to find our other twins. a 4 some.Posted by WitchmitchAriesFire : 125.2 /22.6%Posted by infiresi did this more detail chart thing. these are the percents of each elementPosted by WitchmitchAriesYeahPosted by infireswhat element are you? fire?!
dope is everything ?
But personality wise more like air
Fire: 152.1 / 25.6%
Earth: 177.3 / 29.8%
Air: 116.3 / 19.6%
Water: 148.3 / 25.0%
so my earth is more then the others lol i need more air i think.
Earth : 134.4 / 24.3%
Air : 117.9 / 21.3%
Water : 175.9 / 31.8%
I think he might be air dominant
To answer your question, yes he is. Aries sun/Gem rising/Scorpio moon - but he's a Pluto Scorpio.click to expand
crazy post stuff going on. lol i think i got them all.
Posted by Ram416there should be a study on astro twins. that what i am thinkingPosted by WitchmitchAriesYour post came up 3 times. I quoted from the 4th one.Posted by Ram416i am not seeing triple post. what do you mean?Posted by WitchmitchAriesGirl...hide your other posts lol...triple posting.Posted by Ram416is he an astro twin to us?Posted by WitchmitchAries@raad182Posted by Ram416for a minute there i thought yours was going to be like mine. lol so yours is more water and mine is more earth which means there are 2 more twins out there, one fire and one air. we need to find our other twins. a 4 some.Posted by WitchmitchAriesFire : 125.2 /22.6%Posted by infiresi did this more detail chart thing. these are the percents of each elementPosted by WitchmitchAriesYeahPosted by infireswhat element are you? fire?!
dope is everything ?
But personality wise more like air
Fire: 152.1 / 25.6%
Earth: 177.3 / 29.8%
Air: 116.3 / 19.6%
Water: 148.3 / 25.0%
so my earth is more then the others lol i need more air i think.
Earth : 134.4 / 24.3%
Air : 117.9 / 21.3%
Water : 175.9 / 31.8%
I think he might be air dominant
To answer your question, yes he is. Aries sun/Gem rising/Scorpio moon - but he's a Pluto Scorpio.click to expand
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