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This topic was created in the Astrology forum by xtina on Thursday, January 22, 2009 and has 26 replies.
Is it a bit contradictory to believe in God and Astrology. I know that when I was a catholic (school girl 
) it was a sin to believe in Astrology. I don't know as much as I would like about Astrology though .
) it was a sin to believe in Astrology. I don't know as much as I would like about Astrology though .
Everything is a sin to Catholics.
I remember growing up, next door were catholics, and they would go to mass every Sunday morning and then come home and get drunk, have orgies.
So, how valuable is it, really, for a person to ponder what is considered a sin ... if the very people who make this claim are also sinners?
Furthermore ... I'm unclear why any religion would consider astrology a sin. Are the constellations not in the Milky Way? Were planets not orbiting the sun, and at the time of your birth, were they not in specific locations?
Or, are we suppose to believe that in the solar system, there is only what we can see .... earth, sun and moon?
I remember growing up, next door were catholics, and they would go to mass every Sunday morning and then come home and get drunk, have orgies.
So, how valuable is it, really, for a person to ponder what is considered a sin ... if the very people who make this claim are also sinners?
Furthermore ... I'm unclear why any religion would consider astrology a sin. Are the constellations not in the Milky Way? Were planets not orbiting the sun, and at the time of your birth, were they not in specific locations?
Or, are we suppose to believe that in the solar system, there is only what we can see .... earth, sun and moon?
Somewhere in here there was a woman who made a thread inferring that people who were into astrology were sinners because worshipping of something other than god was a sin.
You've been here for a while, Ardent .. let me ask you: Who exactly do you see "worshipping" anything?
I think the christianity has a false view of non-christians, to be honest ... they "think" in terms of worship, because that's the only thought they are permitted to "think" .... the only other that is allowed to comprehend is to blindly believe .. in this worship.
I went to a church not long ago to check it out .. and they were going off about some Buddhist in thier childrens school. These people were literally freaked out because they thought that these Buddhist were going to influence their children to worship their god ... and I was astounded.
Buddha doesn't have a god .. that is the whole point of the religion.
Thing is .. this program is so instilled in us, that we have no recognition beyond it. And so, we come back to your thread ...
People do NOT worship some astrology god for it to even be a sin .... we calculate planet positions, and analyze the energy forces that these planets emit into the universe, and since we are beings living in the universe, we are effected by these energy emissions.
How is that ^^^^ a sin?
It's science.
You've been here for a while, Ardent .. let me ask you: Who exactly do you see "worshipping" anything?
I think the christianity has a false view of non-christians, to be honest ... they "think" in terms of worship, because that's the only thought they are permitted to "think" .... the only other that is allowed to comprehend is to blindly believe .. in this worship.
I went to a church not long ago to check it out .. and they were going off about some Buddhist in thier childrens school. These people were literally freaked out because they thought that these Buddhist were going to influence their children to worship their god ... and I was astounded.
Buddha doesn't have a god .. that is the whole point of the religion.
Thing is .. this program is so instilled in us, that we have no recognition beyond it. And so, we come back to your thread ...
People do NOT worship some astrology god for it to even be a sin .... we calculate planet positions, and analyze the energy forces that these planets emit into the universe, and since we are beings living in the universe, we are effected by these energy emissions.
How is that ^^^^ a sin?
It's science.
It's becoming apparant to me that the waters run swift and shallow ... however, this doesn't mean that responders can survive without some depth.
How boring of a conversation/interaction it would mean if every person had to stand in ankle water, in order for one person to relate.
Perhaps, being submerged at least up to the waist would provide something.
How boring of a conversation/interaction it would mean if every person had to stand in ankle water, in order for one person to relate.
Perhaps, being submerged at least up to the waist would provide something.
1. I was born and raised a Catholic, it doesn't mean I am currently a Catholic. I just used my past experience as my only means to relate to those that are religious or believe in God.
2. I don't believe Astrology is a sin, I don't believe in sins.
3. As I have a very superficial understanding of Astrology, I just wanted someone to shed light on the matter. I never believed there is actual worshiping within Astrology, but I was curious to know if there are any points within Astrology which contradicts the existence of a God. It doesn't matter the religion really.
It was a question really no real statements of my opinion... until now.
2. I don't believe Astrology is a sin, I don't believe in sins.
3. As I have a very superficial understanding of Astrology, I just wanted someone to shed light on the matter. I never believed there is actual worshiping within Astrology, but I was curious to know if there are any points within Astrology which contradicts the existence of a God. It doesn't matter the religion really.
It was a question really no real statements of my opinion... until now.
Hahaha... at least .
.Seriously, MP... the irony.
Amen PP... AMEN!
Is it a bit contradictory to believe in God and Astrology... catholic...it was a sin to believe in Astrology.
Tina, for every need there is a sect. Help yourself. or do it yourself.
Tina, for every need there is a sect. Help yourself. or do it yourself.
tonight there was South Park on TV. the 8 years old were sent to the church camp (to get cured) cause they were "confused". in other words "curious".
That's very good to know ArianMilWife... but I'm not into all that mumbo-jumbo. I only use it as a way to relate to other religious people. I am by no means religious, at all.
yea even masturbation is a sin. Thats how the priests end up blowing alter boys than jerking off looking at the crucifix.
Sorry AriaMilWife... I just don't want people thinking I'm a religious nut... bad for my rep .
.You know I have lots and lots of love for you 
.
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yea I was raised catholic... I stopped believing in God when I was like 10, but till today, can't tell my parents, they're fixed signs so I don't even know how to start that conversation... so when I go home to see my parents, on the sundays, I dress up, go chill with a friend, go shopping ... and tell them I'm going to church.
I know I'm defo going to hell when I die... but before then, this life's just so much fun. am I right?
I know I'm defo going to hell when I die... but before then, this life's just so much fun. am I right?
hehehehe - but I don't know or see the unlife... I prepare for what I can see or perceive in my mind's eye... which is this limited life...
if there is no truth in the christianity taught life after death and the science of rotting is the end of me? then I have limited and restricted known life why?
I don't want to have to decide between hell and heaven, I sure have friends in both places.
how very libran
I rather decide now and 'make hay while the sun shines'... hey I finally used that saying
if there is no truth in the christianity taught life after death and the science of rotting is the end of me? then I have limited and restricted known life why?
I don't want to have to decide between hell and heaven, I sure have friends in both places.
how very libran
I rather decide now and 'make hay while the sun shines'... hey I finally used that saying
"yea I was raised catholic... I stopped believing in God when I was like 10, but till today, can't tell my parents, they're fixed signs so I don't even know how to start that conversation... so when I go home to see my parents, on the sundays, I dress up, go chill with a friend, go shopping ... and tell them I'm going to church."
LOL!!! Are we twins or something? That's my same exact story every Sunday, except they really never check what I wear just as long as my car is missing in the morning... I just go to the gym. I've tainted my little sister now too. I'm s evil .
LOL!!! Are we twins or something? That's my same exact story every Sunday, except they really never check what I wear just as long as my car is missing in the morning... I just go to the gym
. I've tainted my little sister now too. I'm s evil .MOONIE!!!!!!!!!!! I've missed you .
I've been good. Doing well.
You?
I don't care about P's comment, I have no real attachment to the Catholic religion (I'm actually an atheist ... ssshhh!!). So there's no real offense to be made really .
.I've been good. Doing well
.You?
I don't care about P's comment, I have no real attachment to the Catholic religion (I'm actually an atheist ... ssshhh!!
). So there's no real offense to be made really .moonie! hope you're well...
LOL!!! Are we twins or something? That's my same exact story every Sunday, except they really never check what I wear just as long as my car is missing in the morning... I just go to the gym . I've tainted my little sister now too. I'm s evil
lol - used the gym several times too
a lot of my friends that grew up catholic do this too... I guess it might come out one day! yikes
LOL!!! Are we twins or something? That's my same exact story every Sunday, except they really never check what I wear just as long as my car is missing in the morning... I just go to the gym . I've tainted my little sister now too. I'm s evil
lol - used the gym several times too
a lot of my friends that grew up catholic do this too... I guess it might come out one day! yikes
i still think astrology is a science... if you believe and use scientific principles, there's room for religion too I think...
it's when people start imposing it on others that there's an issue
it's when people start imposing it on others that there's an issue
"a lot of my friends that grew up catholic do this too... I guess it might come out one day! yikes"
Tragic... imagine all the broken-hearted parents
. Tsk, tsk.
Nothing good every came out of being a religious nut.
Tragic... imagine all the broken-hearted parents
. Tsk, tsk.Nothing good every came out of being a religious nut.
"Nothing good every came out of being a religious nut."
I would have to disagree with that statement.
Though I am Gnostic, which means I don't believe in a god, or at least not the one that Christians believe in ... it would be pretty ignorant to disregard the fact that having good, loving thoughts actually brings good, loving feelings, which brings a good, loving reatlity.
If a person lived their whole life as a religious, Jesus freak .. though to the outsiders, like us, that may seem fucking strange as shit ... but, if the outcome of this for that person, makes them love ..... then how can that equate to nothing good ever coming from it.
For this reason, as much as I get irritated as fuck that people would put blind faith into a god .. at the same time, it's obvious that this blindness is loved-based. so, how can that be wrong?
I would have to disagree with that statement.
Though I am Gnostic, which means I don't believe in a god, or at least not the one that Christians believe in ... it would be pretty ignorant to disregard the fact that having good, loving thoughts actually brings good, loving feelings, which brings a good, loving reatlity.
If a person lived their whole life as a religious, Jesus freak .. though to the outsiders, like us, that may seem fucking strange as shit ... but, if the outcome of this for that person, makes them love ..... then how can that equate to nothing good ever coming from it.
For this reason, as much as I get irritated as fuck that people would put blind faith into a god .. at the same time, it's obvious that this blindness is loved-based. so, how can that be wrong?
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I'm a little late, but I've tried the Christian thing, the Atheist thing, and the Agnostic thing, and I find that on average, it's all the same shit from day to day. Therefore religion, and anything other than living day to day and dealing with stuff how it comes, is utterly useless to me.
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I think I'll continue being Agnostic though. There's nothing like being free from dogmas, ya know?
yea tda, upholding dogma's a bit exhausting after a while
".. at the same time, it's obvious that this blindness is loved-based. so, how can that be wrong?"
Of course it can be wrong. For the love of God people decide to strip away the rights of others (there are other psychological reasoning behind this mind you... but in essence it is because it is the word of the Lord) i.e. gay marriage and women rights. It is for the love of God that terrorist freely give away their lives to crash hijacked planes into buildings to kill millions of others. It is for the love of God that protesters invade a soldiers funeral to tell his grieving beloved ones that that was what God willed, because he was a sinner. It was for the love of God that hundreds of parents along with their children ingested cyanide filled kool-aide. How can it not be wrong when so many are being mislead, decieved, their free will stripped, and innocents are dying. I'm not unrealistic, I understand not all bad comes from being a religious zealot, a lot of good can come from religion. All I am saying, wrong can come from "loving" God.
Of course it can be wrong. For the love of God people decide to strip away the rights of others (there are other psychological reasoning behind this mind you... but in essence it is because it is the word of the Lord) i.e. gay marriage and women rights. It is for the love of God that terrorist freely give away their lives to crash hijacked planes into buildings to kill millions of others. It is for the love of God that protesters invade a soldiers funeral to tell his grieving beloved ones that that was what God willed, because he was a sinner. It was for the love of God that hundreds of parents along with their children ingested cyanide filled kool-aide. How can it not be wrong when so many are being mislead, decieved, their free will stripped, and innocents are dying. I'm not unrealistic, I understand not all bad comes from being a religious zealot, a lot of good can come from religion. All I am saying, wrong can come from "loving" God.
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