Interesting 12th house interpretation

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After speaking with a like minded individual, he offered an interesting interpretation on the 12th house that made me think. He says that 12th house is our subconscious. In other words my 12th is sag with three planets there and I'm constantly craving subconsciously to just let go, laugh, be extroverted, and surrender to life's majesty... But I'm a Capricorn?so that gets swallowed up by Saturn. It's true. I so crave that surrender to just be sag/aqu like.

Aries in the subconscious of a Pisces. Cancer in the subconscious of the Leo. Virgo in the subconscious of the Libra. Taurus rising can be so relaxed and reserved but their feeling the pull to embrace and unleash their Arian qualities. Even if they constantly think or speak about wanting to go do so may projects and be more instinctive instead of moving so relaxed through their journey. however the subconscious thoughts gets swallowed up by the Taurus rising (interesting if you have a duplicate; Taurus 12th and Taurus rising).

The Gemini rising subconscious is Taurus. Wants to slow down and enjoy the pleasures of the world one by one. No rush. "I've got time". Stick to one thing and finish it. want to Stop overstimulating themselves and shut off for a while. Stop eating so fast lol.

And if you have planets in there too then that adds to it. Perhaps we should consider that we don't necessarily have to have only ONE interpretation for each energy or house.



So what are your thoughts, interpretation, experiences?
Hmmm. I'm A Taurus sun in the 12th with an Aries moon also in the 12th and Taurus Mercury in the 12th and yeah, it does apply to me. But, I've never been sure if that's because of my Aries moon's influence which is pretty strong. I think it must be that way for most fire moon peeps. But it's interesting.

Ultimately though, whatever I feel, or wish to do, my Taurus sun rules the day. Maybe fixed suns are like that?
Posted by Season
Hmmm. I'm A Taurus sun in the 12th with an Aries moon also in the 12th and Taurus Mercury in the 12th and yeah, it does apply to me. But, I've never been sure if that's because of my Aries moon's influence which is pretty strong. I think it must be that way for most fire moon peeps. But it's interesting.

Ultimately though, whatever I feel, or wish to do, my Taurus sun rules the day. Maybe fixed suns are like that?
Thanks for the response! As for fixed Suns... They certainly can be interesting in sun placements. Like you said they dont like to budge for the other energies. Yes that's true I agree with your Aries moon statement it can blur the lines. Because if I asked You if you ever feel subconsciously to be more extroverted (sun like), communicate more freely (mercury like), express yourself emotionally more/nurture more (moon like), some of it may still sound like your Aries moon?
I have 12th house sun in cancer, i'm going to go cry now


J/k Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin

Posted by rabidtalker
I have 12th house sun in cancer, i'm going to go cry now


J/k Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin

Lol what's your journey/experience like with your sun in 12th?
My Scorpio moon lives in my 12th house - this is really interesting
Posted by Impulsv
Only thing I have in 12 th house is nnd in sag

I don't understand the energy although life is forcing me to go with flow
What's your rising?
Posted by TaurusinTexas
My Scorpio moon lives in my 12th house - this is really interesting
Hi, thanks for responding?. Is your 12th a duplicate (sag too) or Scorpio?
Posted by AstroMike
Posted by TaurusinTexas
My Scorpio moon lives in my 12th house - this is really interesting
Hi, thanks for responding?. Is your 12th a duplicate (sag too) or Scorpio?
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My 12th is all Scorpio - it's where I hide my crazy ?
Posted by TrueFantasy
I have Leo Venus and Mars in the 12th.

My 12 house is ruled by cancer.
Oh my god I have questions *eyes darting back and fourth*?.

Are you very Gemini'ian because of your 3rd house stellium?

Do your subconsciously want to be more emotionally emotive/nurturing (assuming your Leo rising), show off your beauty/visual side, more aggressive assertive side?

You have problems shutting off your mind airiness sometimes?

Sorry for the bombardment of questions. I'm a very curious person
Posted by TaurusinTexas
Posted by AstroMike
Posted by TaurusinTexas
My Scorpio moon lives in my 12th house - this is really interesting
Hi, thanks for responding?. Is your 12th a duplicate (sag too) or Scorpio?
My 12th is all Scorpio - it's where I hide my crazy ?
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Lol interesting. And your feel like unleashing that Scorpio cannon sometimes? Does your sag rising say down girl I'll handle this.

Posted by Koniuchaa
I have Sag Mars in my 12th house.

I am a fairly low energy person and definitely prefer to do things by myself. My hobbies are things I can do alone. I am also very drawn very strongly to the spiritual aspect of life.

I do have issues expressing my anger sometimes. It can feel shameful to me.
Cap rising?
Posted by AstroMike
Posted by TaurusinTexas
Posted by AstroMike
Posted by TaurusinTexas
My Scorpio moon lives in my 12th house - this is really interesting
Hi, thanks for responding?. Is your 12th a duplicate (sag too) or Scorpio?
My 12th is all Scorpio - it's where I hide my crazy ?
Lol interesting. And your feel like unleashing that Scorpio cannon sometimes? Does your sag rising say down girl I'll handle this.

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I'm not a super emotional person, so when I do let the Scorp passion and emotions out, even my taurus sun, takes a step back and let's the moon run wild - like I said this is a rather rare moment. I'm pretty easy going most days.

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Posted by TrueFantasy
I have Leo Venus and Mars in the 12th.

My 12 house is ruled by cancer.
Oh my god I have questions *eyes darting back and fourth*?.

Are you very Gemini'ian because of your 3rd house stellium?

Do your subconsciously want to be more emotionally emotive/nurturing (assuming your Leo rising), show off your beauty/visual side, more aggressive assertive side?

You have problems shutting off your mind airiness sometimes?

Sorry for the bombardment of questions. I'm a very curious person
YEP lol

Many people mistake me as a Gemini and sometimes Pisces, very rarely to never Virgo for some weird reason. I read about the 3rd house and it is very me. Also being very mercurial enhances it since my Mercury is in the 3rd! I attract A LOT of geminis and think now I know why. Not complaining because I love the energy.

I think having my Leo bits in the 12th makes me want to express my creativity in a way that seems challenging. This is how I interpret it -

All my life I wanted to work in creative arts such as be a fashion designer, an artist, acting, dancer, perform in general etc but it feels damn near unattainable and that maybe it's the road I mustn't touch. People have told me I won't make it in those fields and that I should be a doctor, teacher or work behind the scenes but that's not what my heart wants. I'm not sure if that's what it means but that's what I think.

Part of me wants to be seen more assertive but I'm so chill. I can be very conflicting at times..not sure if it's because of my upbringing.

My mind wanders like no other. Let's just say I live in La La land 90% of the time but I'm trying to reduce my visits there as time goes on.

I love questions : -)
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Yay!? Gem energy all the way! Airways has that mental energy going. Yes this coworkers of mine said he thought he was a Gemini even though he's a cancer sun. I told him he probably has Gemini planets (cancer sun tend to have Gemini planets around) or third house energy so let me look up your chart. behold he has Sun and Mercury in the house of Gemini. And I think north node too.

1: yup I can see the creativity wanting to burst out with Leo on 12th. Also the desire to be more assertive. But from my experience the third house with female and male people tend to give off allot of masculine energy because of the 3rd house. Specifically women. However other energies in the chart has to be taken into account obviously. So you may already have it but possibly still growing into it (we are living progressed lives). Also it seems females with third house energy desires strong males or females partnership-wise.
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Posted by AstroMike
Posted by TrueFantasy
I have Leo Venus and Mars in the 12th.

My 12 house is ruled by cancer.
Oh my god I have questions *eyes darting back and fourth*?.

Are you very Gemini'ian because of your 3rd house stellium?

Do your subconsciously want to be more emotionally emotive/nurturing (assuming your Leo rising), show off your beauty/visual side, more aggressive assertive side?

You have problems shutting off your mind airiness sometimes?

Sorry for the bombardment of questions. I'm a very curious person
YEP lol

Many people mistake me as a Gemini and sometimes Pisces, very rarely to never Virgo for some weird reason. I read about the 3rd house and it is very me. Also being very mercurial enhances it since my Mercury is in the 3rd! I attract A LOT of geminis and think now I know why. Not complaining because I love the energy.

I think having my Leo bits in the 12th makes me want to express my creativity in a way that seems challenging. This is how I interpret it -

All my life I wanted to work in creative arts such as be a fashion designer, an artist, acting, dancer, perform in general etc but it feels damn near unattainable and that maybe it's the road I mustn't touch. People have told me I won't make it in those fields and that I should be a doctor, teacher or work behind the scenes but that's not what my heart wants. I'm not sure if that's what it means but that's what I think.

Part of me wants to be seen more assertive but I'm so chill. I can be very conflicting at times..not sure if it's because of my upbringing.

My mind wanders like no other. Let's just say I live in La La land 90% of the time but I'm trying to reduce my visits there as time goes on.

I love questions : -)
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2: - there is no plan B. We are always told by certain souls to live ordinarily (they mean no harm) . Doctor. Teacher. Nurse. If that is what your here for than its unique to you but if it's settling then it's settling. We compromise on our pursuits. 99% of the time you will hear why you cannot do something and should settle on something more commonly achievable in their eyes or profitable. 1% of the time you will have support from souls telling you why your CAN do it and should. It is a risk, there are air of challengers and challenges along the way. But if it's your journey then only you can overcome it to be honest (the journey is specifically tailored to you).
Posted by Koniuchaa
Posted by AstroMike
Posted by Koniuchaa
I have Sag Mars in my 12th house.

I am a fairly low energy person and definitely prefer to do things by myself. My hobbies are things I can do alone. I am also very drawn very strongly to the spiritual aspect of life.

I do have issues expressing my anger sometimes. It can feel shameful to me.
Cap rising?
I am a Sag asc
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You think having your planet of aggressive expansion, assertiveness, and energy in the subconscious gives that feeling of low energy? Makes you hold back more? Do you feel bold enough to take certain risks?

Posted by TaurusinTexas
Posted by AstroMike
Posted by TaurusinTexas
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Posted by TaurusinTexas
My Scorpio moon lives in my 12th house - this is really interesting
Hi, thanks for responding?. Is your 12th a duplicate (sag too) or Scorpio?
My 12th is all Scorpio - it's where I hide my crazy ?
Lol interesting. And your feel like unleashing that Scorpio cannon sometimes? Does your sag rising say down girl I'll handle this.

I'm not a super emotional person, so when I do let the Scorp passion and emotions out, even my taurus sun, takes a step back and let's the moon run wild - like I said this is a rather rare moment. I'm pretty easy going most days.

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Sag risings does not like to go through emotional moments and maybe it's because of that. Maybe it's the Scorpio in the 12th. Wanting to unleash that scathing tounge someone's, express their intense emotions that they are feeling, but as soon as that thought cruises their mind that Sagittarius slaps it down; NOPE not having it. Optimistic all day buddy

Posted by Saggi212
I am a sagitarius and i have a split 12th with cusp in 27 sag that includes moon,mercury and mars in cap. My rising is cap.I feel 12th restriction a lot as my sun is in sag in 11th however i feel like i cant express it. Maybe its also the cap stellium that make things difficult as well.
As a cap rising you feel the urge to be more Sagittarius like sometimes? More assertive, driven, expressive emotionally, and communicative (Mars, Moon, Mercury with Sag)?
Posted by AneemA
I have my sun, saturn and pluto in scorp and they are all in my 12th house. 12th house is in scorpio.

I say that's the worst you get, like all those planets energies are concealed. Your true self is clouded snd kept hidden like you always wear a mask or perhaps I operate based on my rising and moon signs. Discipline and responsibility are nowhere to be seen, and my process of self improvement is somehow unnoticed.

Is it correct the way I interpret this?
Saturn in 12th: innate fear of failing. Difficulty in disciplining oneself. Fear of taking charge(leadership roles are passed on possibly)? Caution in wanting allot of responsibility.
Posted by Koniuchaa
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Posted by Koniuchaa
I have Sag Mars in my 12th house.

I am a fairly low energy person and definitely prefer to do things by myself. My hobbies are things I can do alone. I am also very drawn very strongly to the spiritual aspect of life.

I do have issues expressing my anger sometimes. It can feel shameful to me.
Cap rising?
I am a Sag asc
You think having your planet of aggressive expansion, assertiveness, and energy in the subconscious gives that feeling of low energy? Makes you hold back more? Do you feel bold enough to take certain risks?

Oh for sure. I do however, have the classic Sag lack of patience though haha

Taking risks is hard for me, definately
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Thank you for being open with me?.
I have moon in aries in 12th, in there I only have chiron.

Pisces is in 11th, my sun. So I am in control of my emotions or otherwise?

Gemini rising
My Gemini moon in the 12th seems a bit diff from other Gemini moons... more sensitive maybe? I always find other Gemini moons to be good at being objective but I seem to really emerge myself in even hypothetical situations. I can put myself there and analyze the different feelings I might have and emote that. It's weird. Also I have my North node there too if that means anything...
Hmm

I'm Taurus rising, but my 12th House cusp

is Pisces-- Aries intercepts that house, stuck

between the two.

Same with Libra-- 6th starts with Virgo and

Scorpio is on the 7th house cusp.

Who knows, but I don't really identify with

either sign.

:/

Interesting topic.

Posted by OmniVirgoFlirt
Posted by Montgomery
Hmm

I'm Taurus rising, but my 12th House cusp

is Pisces-- Aries intercepts that house, stuck

between the two.

Same with Libra-- 6th starts with Virgo and

Scorpio is on the 7th house cusp.

Who knows, but I don't really identify with



either sign.

:/

Interesting topic.

so nothing is in it?

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In the 12th?

Yes, Taurus Mars.


Posted by AstroMike
Posted by rabidtalker
I have 12th house sun in cancer, i'm going to go cry now


J/k Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin

Lol what's your journey/experience like with your sun in 12th?
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Hard to answer, do you have specific questions? I feel I have the typical 12th house experience. I work hard though to rise above what could be a deep depression. I have many "hidden enemies" and feel I have a tougher time through life than others with empty 12th houses. On the flip side, I feel I have amazing physical and emotional reserves and can work and sludge through situations and things that I've seen many others give up and freak out on.

Posted by LostPisces
I have moon in aries in 12th, in there I only have chiron.

Pisces is in 11th, my sun. So I am in control of my emotions or otherwise?

Gemini rising
Your have an interesting one. Gemini rising generally have Taurus in 12th. So subconsciously there is a desire to slow down. Relax. Enjoy the world over step at a time, etc. But it seems Taurus is intercepted with you. So it's Aries in 12th and Gemini in 1st. (Unless I'm mistaken). Which means your subconscious and your rising are pretty similar from my perspective. Yes Gemini and Aries are different energies but they are surprisingly similar too. Geminis always moving thinking and Aries is always moving and thinking. They both generally walk, eat, think, fast. Esoteric wise Aries and Mercury are intimately related. Always planning something. Both get bored quickly. Both jump around from Topix to topic. Etc. So your rising and 12th is a little interesting from the norm which is great!
Posted by LostPisces
I have moon in aries in 12th, in there I only have chiron.

Pisces is in 11th, my sun. So I am in control of my emotions or otherwise?

Gemini rising
But do your have a desire that your suppress to express yourself more emotionally? Are there internalizing and your Gemini does not prefer to deal with it?
Posted by AbbyNormal
My Gemini moon in the 12th seems a bit diff from other Gemini moons... more sensitive maybe? I always find other Gemini moons to be good at being objective but I seem to really emerge myself in even hypothetical situations. I can put myself there and analyze the different feelings I might have and emote that. It's weird. Also I have my North node there too if that means anything...
If your Moon is in your 12th and your rising is cancer...hmm you feel like your cancer rising rules more of your emotions? Your Gemini in the 12th works love to be more objective, detached, free, but your cancer rising smacks it down?
Posted by AbbyNormal
My Gemini moon in the 12th seems a bit diff from other Gemini moons... more sensitive maybe? I always find other Gemini moons to be good at being objective but I seem to really emerge myself in even hypothetical situations. I can put myself there and analyze the different feelings I might have and emote that. It's weird. Also I have my North node there too if that means anything...
Your nnode is in 12th? Cool! I know someone with that placement. He's very Pisces like because of it. Very spiritual and mystical. What's your journey like with it.?Might create a post for it.

Nnode in Gemini also likes to communicate all their accumulated knowledge (snode) while staying detached and objective
Posted by AstroMike
Posted by AbbyNormal
My Gemini moon in the 12th seems a bit diff from other Gemini moons... more sensitive maybe? I always find other Gemini moons to be good at being objective but I seem to really emerge myself in even hypothetical situations. I can put myself there and analyze the different feelings I might have and emote that. It's weird. Also I have my North node there too if that means anything...
If your Moon is in your 12th and your rising is cancer...hmm you feel like your cancer rising rules more of your emotions? Your Gemini in the 12th works love to be more objective, detached, free, but your cancer rising smacks it down?
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You could say that. For example, often times I'm talking about a situation that's emotionally charged and my bf has told me to calm down. I'm not worked up but I'm emoting and I don't realize it kinda? If that makes sense... I can talk about how worked up something would get me and some people will think I'm really worked up when I'm not lol idk smh

Posted by Montgomery
Hmm

I'm Taurus rising, but my 12th House cusp

is Pisces-- Aries intercepts that house, stuck

between the two.

Same with Libra-- 6th starts with Virgo and

Scorpio is on the 7th house cusp.

Who knows, but I don't really identify with

either sign.

:/

Interesting topic.

You don't identify with Aries and Libra?
Posted by AstroMike
Posted by AbbyNormal
My Gemini moon in the 12th seems a bit diff from other Gemini moons... more sensitive maybe? I always find other Gemini moons to be good at being objective but I seem to really emerge myself in even hypothetical situations. I can put myself there and analyze the different feelings I might have and emote that. It's weird. Also I have my North node there too if that means anything...
Your nnode is in 12th? Cool! I know someone with that placement. He's very Pisces like because of it. Very spiritual and mystical. What's your journey like with it.?Might create a post for it.

Nnode in Gemini also likes to communicate all their accumulated knowledge (snode) while staying detached and objective
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Definitely a journey lol

But so far so good ;- P

Almost had Chiron in the 12th whew! I'm also interested in North node stuffs so anything you have to share is appreciated. There was a book a friend let me borrow a while back that I must get another copy of. It has to do with the North node and karmic paths/past lives... VERY interesting read!
Posted by Montgomery
Posted by OmniVirgoFlirt
Posted by Montgomery
Hmm

I'm Taurus rising, but my 12th House cusp

is Pisces-- Aries intercepts that house, stuck

between the two.

Same with Libra-- 6th starts with Virgo and

Scorpio is on the 7th house cusp.

Who knows, but I don't really identify with



either sign.

:/

Interesting topic.

so nothing is in it?

In the 12th?

Yes, Taurus Mars.


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You find yourself wanting to be more assertive/in control of certain things in your life that you let slide? You desire more take charge? You internalize alot? Not expressing yourself as much as your want? (Anger wise)
Posted by AstroMike
Posted by Montgomery
Posted by OmniVirgoFlirt
Posted by Montgomery
Hmm

I'm Taurus rising, but my 12th House cusp

is Pisces-- Aries intercepts that house, stuck

between the two.

Same with Libra-- 6th starts with Virgo and

Scorpio is on the 7th house cusp.

Who knows, but I don't really identify with



either sign.

:/

Interesting topic.

so nothing is in it?

In the 12th?

Yes, Taurus Mars.


You find yourself wanting to be more assertive/in control of certain things in your life that you let slide? You desire more take charge? You internalize alot? Not expressing yourself as much as your want? (Anger wise)
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Absolutely.

Posted by AbbyNormal
Posted by AstroMike
Posted by AbbyNormal
My Gemini moon in the 12th seems a bit diff from other Gemini moons... more sensitive maybe? I always find other Gemini moons to be good at being objective but I seem to really emerge myself in even hypothetical situations. I can put myself there and analyze the different feelings I might have and emote that. It's weird. Also I have my North node there too if that means anything...
Your nnode is in 12th? Cool! I know someone with that placement. He's very Pisces like because of it. Very spiritual and mystical. What's your journey like with it.?Might create a post for it.

Nnode in Gemini also likes to communicate all their accumulated knowledge (snode) while staying detached and objective
Definitely a journey lol

But so far so good ;- P

Almost had Chiron in the 12th whew! I'm also interested in North node stuffs so anything you have to share is appreciated. There was a book a friend let me borrow a while back that I must get another copy of. It has to do with the North node and karmic paths/past lives... VERY interesting read!
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Yes I know! It's a great placement. I'll create a post today for it. Curious as to how people in the community are dealing with it and if they can share their experiences with others too help.

Nnode in 12th are like the shamans/ mystics/ gurus of this world. No they don't go around dressing as such or praying 11 times a day. Instead they are the illuminators/enlighteners. They are forever surrendering themselves to the source. Creating a powerful spiritual antenna that makes them a bridge for those of us who seek to connect with that higher energy. Not many people have this placement I think. It's allot of work from what I understand. Basically alot of hermit like journeys(they have their fun too, there not boring). Combining Pisces and aquarias energies someone once told me.
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Posted by LostPisces
I have moon in aries in 12th, in there I only have chiron.

Pisces is in 11th, my sun. So I am in control of my emotions or otherwise?

Gemini rising
Your have an interesting one. Gemini rising generally have Taurus in 12th. So subconsciously there is a desire to slow down. Relax. Enjoy the world over step at a time, etc. But it seems Taurus is intercepted with you. So it's Aries in 12th and Gemini in 1st. (Unless I'm mistaken). Which means your subconscious and your rising are pretty similar from my perspective. Yes Gemini and Aries are different energies but they are surprisingly similar too. Geminis always moving thinking and Aries is always moving and thinking. They both generally walk, eat, think, fast. Esoteric wise Aries and Mercury are intimately related. Always planning something. Both get bored quickly. Both jump around from Topix to topic. Etc. So your rising and 12th is a little interesting from the norm which is great!
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I confirm, I am easily bored, I have a million ideas, some of them great but I don´t finish most of them. Always fast to walk, eat, think and sleep actually. And interested in a million topics to.

Posted by AstroMike
Posted by LostPisces
I have moon in aries in 12th, in there I only have chiron.

Pisces is in 11th, my sun. So I am in control of my emotions or otherwise?

Gemini rising
But do your have a desire that your suppress to express yourself more emotionally? Are there internalizing and your Gemini does not prefer to deal with it?
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I have been told sometimes that I seem to not have emotions. I think I internalize them and then I have some explosions.

My Cancer moon is in the 12 house. Doe anyone have Scorp Mars in the 12Th house ? I was about to post about it then saw this post.
Posted by rabidtalker
Posted by AstroMike
Posted by rabidtalker
I have 12th house sun in cancer, i'm going to go cry now


J/k Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin

Lol what's your journey/experience like with your sun in 12th?
Hard to answer, do you have specific questions? I feel I have the typical 12th house experience. I work hard though to rise above what could be a deep depression. I have many "hidden enemies" and feel I have a tougher time through life than others with empty 12th houses. On the flip side, I feel I have amazing physical and emotional reserves and can work and sludge through situations and things that I've seen many others give up and freak out on.

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Sun and Mercury in the 12th house? Specifically do you feel like you don't communicate as much as you'd like or there's too much lost in translation? You feel there's not enough confidence behind your mental abilities? Not enough confidence behind how you communicate/express yourself. Although your a leo rising, with your sun in the 12th you feel your creative energies repressed? Not confident in your creative expression? Sorry if I'm asking so many questions
Posted by LostPisces
Posted by AstroMike
Posted by LostPisces
I have moon in aries in 12th, in there I only have chiron.

Pisces is in 11th, my sun. So I am in control of my emotions or otherwise?

Gemini rising
Your have an interesting one. Gemini rising generally have Taurus in 12th. So subconsciously there is a desire to slow down. Relax. Enjoy the world over step at a time, etc. But it seems Taurus is intercepted with you. So it's Aries in 12th and Gemini in 1st. (Unless I'm mistaken). Which means your subconscious and your rising are pretty similar from my perspective. Yes Gemini and Aries are different energies but they are surprisingly similar too. Geminis always moving thinking and Aries is always moving and thinking. They both generally walk, eat, think, fast. Esoteric wise Aries and Mercury are intimately related. Always planning something. Both get bored quickly. Both jump around from Topix to topic. Etc. So your rising and 12th is a little interesting from the norm which is great!
I confirm, I am easily bored, I have a million ideas, some of them great but I don´t finish most of them. Always fast to walk, eat, think and sleep actually. And interested in a million topics to.

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I love those energies?. Opposite to my own.

Posted by LostPisces
Posted by AstroMike
Posted by LostPisces
I have moon in aries in 12th, in there I only have chiron.

Pisces is in 11th, my sun. So I am in control of my emotions or otherwise?

Gemini rising
But do your have a desire that your suppress to express yourself more emotionally? Are there internalizing and your Gemini does not prefer to deal with it?
I have been told sometimes that I seem to not have emotions. I think I internalize them and then I have some explosions.

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Lol looking back at what I typed... spell check is a fail. Im surprised you translated that mess I typed

Posted by AbbyNormal
Posted by AstroMike
Posted by AbbyNormal
My Gemini moon in the 12th seems a bit diff from other Gemini moons... more sensitive maybe? I always find other Gemini moons to be good at being objective but I seem to really emerge myself in even hypothetical situations. I can put myself there and analyze the different feelings I might have and emote that. It's weird. Also I have my North node there too if that means anything...
Your nnode is in 12th? Cool! I know someone with that placement. He's very Pisces like because of it. Very spiritual and mystical. What's your journey like with it.?Might create a post for it.

Nnode in Gemini also likes to communicate all their accumulated knowledge (snode) while staying detached and objective
Definitely a journey lol

But so far so good ;- P

Almost had Chiron in the 12th whew! I'm also interested in North node stuffs so anything you have to share is appreciated. There was a book a friend let me borrow a while back that I must get another copy of. It has to do with the North node and karmic paths/past lives... VERY interesting read!
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I have this placement too, what was the name of the book?.

Posted by Saggi212
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Posted by Saggi212
I am a sagitarius and i have a split 12th with cusp in 27 sag that includes moon,mercury and mars in cap. My rising is cap.I feel 12th restriction a lot as my sun is in sag in 11th however i feel like i cant express it. Maybe its also the cap stellium that make things difficult as well.
As a cap rising you feel the urge to be more Sagittarius like sometimes? More assertive, driven, expressive emotionally, and communicative (Mars, Moon, Mercury with Sag)?



I feel it a lot my sun is sagittarius.I want to be a Saggitarius but something holds me back.

As i said i have a beautiful stellium of moon,mercury,venus,mars and neptune in capricorn through 12th and 1st house plus cap rising ?

I think sagittarius is struggling to express but its quite difficult ?
Cap or Saturn is like the energy of limitations/restrictions. So yup when you have a stellium of that energy in your subconscious it can be a journey struggling to break it off your restrictions. I knew someone who was an aqu sun with three to four planets in cap with his sun and he was completely frenetic. Just complete ball of energy. How could all this cap make him so ON!? Turns out his stellium was in the house of Gemini. Cap influence was still there but he was very Gemini'ian. Using gem energy to accomplish his cap goals. Scorpio rising.

Sorry for this long narration but basically it may not be the abundance of cap energy per se (though that certainly colors the outcome) but it may be because of where the cap energy is placed. 12th house is almost like a house of restrictions (funny that connection) so your Mars energy (operates similar to sun) is suppressed. Your aggressive expansion, your aggression, drive, assertiveness. All suppressed. Takes ALOT of work to milk it out of your house.
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I have cancer moon, merc, and mars in my 12th. Leo rising and gem sun in 11th house. Not sure how to translate about the subconscious....
Posted by misslissa
I have cancer moon, merc, and mars in my 12th. Leo rising and gem sun in 11th house. Not sure how to translate about the subconscious....
Do you subconsciously desire to be more emotionally expressive?

Are you confident in your combination? (Despite being Gemini)

You feel a desire to be more active, aggressive (too passive aggressive?), Assertive? You feel these energies are suppressed?

Posted by AstroMike
Posted by misslissa
I have cancer moon, merc, and mars in my 12th. Leo rising and gem sun in 11th house. Not sure how to translate about the subconscious....
Do you subconsciously desire to be more emotionally expressive?

Are you confident in your combination? (Despite being Gemini)

You feel a desire to be more active, aggressive (too passive aggressive?), Assertive? You feel these energies are suppressed?

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I definitely desire to be more active and more assertive. Yes, I feel they are supressed.

Thank you, AstroMike. smile

Interesting.. I do feel like i had more arien attributes. I wish i would take more action sometimes. But I get caught up in my Taurus rising. I do make note of it though and try to do more when it comes to mind.
Feel like i wish i had****
Posted by misslissa
Posted by AstroMike
Posted by misslissa
I have cancer moon, merc, and mars in my 12th. Leo rising and gem sun in 11th house. Not sure how to translate about the subconscious....
Do you subconsciously desire to be more emotionally expressive?

Are you confident in your combination? (Despite being Gemini)

You feel a desire to be more active, aggressive (too passive aggressive?), Assertive? You feel these energies are suppressed?

I definitely desire to be more active and more assertive. Yes, I feel they are supressed.

Thank you, AstroMike. smile

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How is your communication? As a Gemini it makes me curious?
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Feel like i wish i had****
Any planets in the 12th?
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