Posted by KoniuchaaThat sounds exhausting to me. "Life or death"
I have this with a 1 degree orb.
Emotions can feel like life or death sometimes. I have always had to talk to someone about them, usually family. I also have a moon-Mercury aspect, so talking about my feelings is vital.
My mom has always been very controlling.
Posted by Senorita_LLSo do you think this affected you negatively? Your moms behavior?
I do and I agree with Koniuchaa. My mom used to be controlling and emotionally distant when I was young.
I kept most of my emotions to myself because I don't feel like people understand me.
It's a struggle indeed.
Posted by OneKnightOh
I have that. Zero relationship with muma. No man should.
I'm not doomed. Takes someone special to understand me. I prefer it that way.
Posted by Senorita_LLI don't have that placement but my pisces mum's aqua moon made her also quite distant. But that also taught me to rely on myself and be less demanding as a kid. We have a great relationshipPosted by AquaNextDoorNot really because in such a way, I've learned how to depend on myself when it comes to emotions. I don't have a bad relationship with my mom, in fact I love that woman so much.Posted by Senorita_LLSo do you think this affected you negatively? Your moms behavior?
I do and I agree with Koniuchaa. My mom used to be controlling and emotionally distant when I was young.
I kept most of my emotions to myself because I don't feel like people understand me.
It's a struggle indeed.
It was more of a struggle when I was in my teens, though. Those times were really crazy.
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Posted by Senorita_LLCold cold nights 😂😂😂😂Posted by AquaNextDoorOh my mom is a Cap with Aqua moon too. Cold, cold nights. But she's hilarious.Posted by Senorita_LLI don't have that placement but my pisces mum's aqua moon made her also quite distant. But that also taught me to rely on myself and be less demanding as a kid. We have a great relationshipPosted by AquaNextDoorNot really because in such a way, I've learned how to depend on myself when it comes to emotions. I don't have a bad relationship with my mom, in fact I love that woman so much.Posted by Senorita_LLSo do you think this affected you negatively? Your moms behavior?
I do and I agree with Koniuchaa. My mom used to be controlling and emotionally distant when I was young.
I kept most of my emotions to myself because I don't feel like people understand me.
It's a struggle indeed.
It was more of a struggle when I was in my teens, though. Those times were really crazy.
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Posted by KoniuchaaNo I don't have this placement 😊 But thanks for your insightPosted by AquaNextDoorOnce you figure out what is going on, it’s not so badPosted by KoniuchaaThat sounds exhausting to me. "Life or death"
I have this with a 1 degree orb.
Emotions can feel like life or death sometimes. I have always had to talk to someone about them, usually family. I also have a moon-Mercury aspect, so talking about my feelings is vital.
My mom has always been very controlling.
I only seek deep relationships with others.
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Posted by UnicornSagI have moon conj venus too! I don't experience emotions in a negative way most of the time, I'm also very vocal about them which helps me process them. I might not whine all over the place but I do process them and try to understand themPosted by Senorita_LLPosted by AquaNextDoorOh my mom is a Cap with Aqua moon too. Cold, cold nights. But she's hilarious.Posted by Senorita_LLI don't have that placement but my pisces mum's aqua moon made her also quite distant. But that also taught me to rely on myself and be less demanding as a kid. We have a great relationshipPosted by AquaNextDoorNot really because in such a way, I've learned how to depend on myself when it comes to emotions. I don't have a bad relationship with my mom, in fact I love that woman so much.Posted by Senorita_LLSo do you think this affected you negatively? Your moms behavior?
I do and I agree with Koniuchaa. My mom used to be controlling and emotionally distant when I was young.
I kept most of my emotions to myself because I don't feel like people understand me.
It's a struggle indeed.
It was more of a struggle when I was in my teens, though. Those times were really crazy.
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Oh wow...my Cap has same...he's impossible with emotions![]()
and has this aspect as well...I don't know if he can be helped at all...
not only Cap sun Aqua moon and Moon square pluto but Also Sun conjunct Moon and Moon conjunct Venus...anything that has anything to do with emotions screwed him in all ways it could :/click to expand
Posted by UnicornSagHm imo the conjunctions aren't bad at all! Depends on how you've worked on yourself and the person you are with. I have a bunch of them being a 6x cap stellium lol conjunctions are intense but not "bad" or negative in general. I have sun conj my venus and it's not hard at all. Or saturn conj my moon being bith in cap - no biggie at all because I worked on myself.Posted by AquaNextDoorPosted by UnicornSagI have moon conj venus too! I don't experience emotions in a negative way most of the time, I'm also very vocal about them which helps me process them. I might not whine all over the place but I do process them and try to understand themPosted by Senorita_LLPosted by AquaNextDoorOh my mom is a Cap with Aqua moon too. Cold, cold nights. But she's hilarious.Posted by Senorita_LLI don't have that placement but my pisces mum's aqua moon made her also quite distant. But that also taught me to rely on myself and be less demanding as a kid. We have a great relationshipPosted by AquaNextDoorNot really because in such a way, I've learned how to depend on myself when it comes to emotions. I don't have a bad relationship with my mom, in fact I love that woman so much.Posted by Senorita_LLSo do you think this affected you negatively? Your moms behavior?
I do and I agree with Koniuchaa. My mom used to be controlling and emotionally distant when I was young.
I kept most of my emotions to myself because I don't feel like people understand me.
It's a struggle indeed.
It was more of a struggle when I was in my teens, though. Those times were really crazy.
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Oh wow...my Cap has same...he's impossible with emotions![]()
and has this aspect as well...I don't know if he can be helped at all...
not only Cap sun Aqua moon and Moon square pluto but Also Sun conjunct Moon and Moon conjunct Venus...anything that has anything to do with emotions screwed him in all ways it could :/
ah this guy is a special case...he has many bad aspects to make that all messed up. One aspect won't screw you over if you have some others to balance it but he's just like doomed when it comes to emotions lol also Sun conjunct Moon is a rare aspect that can screw one over too, it's also in quite proximate degrees, occurs when the new Moon happens. He doesn't vocalize his emotions at all. I cracked him a bit, found his weak point where I can get him to open up a bit but every time he does, he will retreat back to his shell so it's very very difficult person to handle, but he's being worse to himself, that's worse than others not getting through to himclick to expand
Posted by OCJackSo you think these folks just gotta work a little harder?
Would y'all motherfuckers stop misunderstanding what pluto is even all about? Did y'all even look this shit up or did you just hear it prophetically from a fart? Pluto is the placement of "fate". Positive or negative. There's nothing about a specific placement that makes Pluto inherently negative. Squares to pluto would imply that you'll only attain an outcome by sheer freewill and luck.
Basically you can't sit around hoping it will come to you, because it's not in the cards your fate has laid down for you. That doesn't mean it goes against your fate, it just means it doesn't go "with" it either. They are completely independent of each other and one cannot influence the other. Which if anything is a good thing because it means the exact opposite of your fear. Your emotions cannot disrupt your fate, whether the track you are currently on is good or bad. That's GOOD in terms of when you're on a positive track, and kinda just "Meh" when you're on a negative one.
The bad news is, there is no gaurantee you will achieve whatever it is your heart desires. I guess for people without Square, it'd be about the same... just less absolute. But then people with a Pluto/Moon conjunction would be the opposite, and would have a lot of fate based influence pulling them towards achieving whatever it is they desire. Increasing the odds vastly so.
Posted by OCJackVery interesting thank youPosted by AquaNextDoor
So you think these folks just gotta work a little harder?
Depends. It can mean they have never really had emotional conflict with their life path thus far and in that sense it'd be the exact opposite. It'd be a lot harder for their emotional health to be disrupted than it would be for other people. So in this sense it could go either way. If their emotions just happen to coincidentally be in contrast to their fate... then yes. They will have to go out of their way to "fix" it, and have to go off the beaten path and do things that don't even seem conducive to their life path otherwise.
Like, even if they DO got emotional issues... fixing them would be inconsequential to their success in life. The only motive and result from doing something about it from there, would merely be inner peace.click to expand
Posted by UnicornSagOh sorry to hear! How far are you guys apart? I'm always for giving it a try atleast oncePosted by AquaNextDoorPosted by UnicornSagHm imo the conjunctions aren't bad at all! Depends on how you've worked on yourself and the person you are with. I have a bunch of them being a 6x cap stellium lol conjunctions are intense but not "bad" or negative in general. I have sun conj my venus and it's not hard at all. Or saturn conj my moon being bith in cap - no biggie at all because I worked on myself.Posted by AquaNextDoorPosted by UnicornSagI have moon conj venus too! I don't experience emotions in a negative way most of the time, I'm also very vocal about them which helps me process them. I might not whine all over the place but I do process them and try to understand themPosted by Senorita_LLPosted by AquaNextDoorOh my mom is a Cap with Aqua moon too. Cold, cold nights. But she's hilarious.Posted by Senorita_LLI don't have that placement but my pisces mum's aqua moon made her also quite distant. But that also taught me to rely on myself and be less demanding as a kid. We have a great relationshipPosted by AquaNextDoorNot really because in such a way, I've learned how to depend on myself when it comes to emotions. I don't have a bad relationship with my mom, in fact I love that woman so much.Posted by Senorita_LLSo do you think this affected you negatively? Your moms behavior?
I do and I agree with Koniuchaa. My mom used to be controlling and emotionally distant when I was young.
I kept most of my emotions to myself because I don't feel like people understand me.
It's a struggle indeed.
It was more of a struggle when I was in my teens, though. Those times were really crazy.
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Oh wow...my Cap has same...he's impossible with emotions![]()
and has this aspect as well...I don't know if he can be helped at all...
not only Cap sun Aqua moon and Moon square pluto but Also Sun conjunct Moon and Moon conjunct Venus...anything that has anything to do with emotions screwed him in all ways it could :/
ah this guy is a special case...he has many bad aspects to make that all messed up. One aspect won't screw you over if you have some others to balance it but he's just like doomed when it comes to emotions lol also Sun conjunct Moon is a rare aspect that can screw one over too, it's also in quite proximate degrees, occurs when the new Moon happens. He doesn't vocalize his emotions at all. I cracked him a bit, found his weak point where I can get him to open up a bit but every time he does, he will retreat back to his shell so it's very very difficult person to handle, but he's being worse to himself, that's worse than others not getting through to him
But that's dating 101 - if we put astrology aside - you can't and you won't fix a guy! He let's you see what he wants you to see and the female idea of "helping" a man is utopic since its not going to happen. Women want to believe that they help him open up and all that other ish but what really happens is that with the right girl (in his eyes) that sucker will move mountains, will be ready for committment faster than you can spell it and won't have any issues on being the man to keep that said lady happy and satisfied including sharing his emotions.
Men who seem emotionally unavailable aren't in 9/10 cases - it's the old "she's not the one" - doesn't mean they won't settle for a placeholder relationship until the real deal comes a long. So no.. I don't believe in this whole "this guy is a special/complicated case" nor does astrology justify it. No offense though!
No I don't believe in "fixing" someone either! I mean no matter how much I'll have the urge to help someone from time to time I'm well aware that's impossible. We all are as we are, so I don't believe in that concept either when women want and believe they can "fix" a guy.
With this particular guy I'm saying that he's complicated case because he's out of reach, we only had online thing, never got to meet in real life so never got a chance to make it work actually and given a lot of his placements in chart he's quick to run away from problems and won't bother much going into what seems inconvenient and LDR with someone from another continent, culture and religion is definitely inconvenience I'd say for such person! Do I believe I could "fix" this? No, and I don't want to. I want someone who fights along with me to make it work past obstacles. I'm a warrior but want a warrior for myself as well. Only thing I'm sad at this point is that we didn't get to meet in person, he did say he still wants to see me but I don't know how wise would that be to happen, maybe it's better left as it is...click to expand
Posted by UnicornSagWow now that's far!!Posted by AquaNextDoorPosted by UnicornSagOh sorry to hear! How far are you guys apart? I'm always for giving it a try atleast oncePosted by AquaNextDoorPosted by UnicornSagHm imo the conjunctions aren't bad at all! Depends on how you've worked on yourself and the person you are with. I have a bunch of them being a 6x cap stellium lol conjunctions are intense but not "bad" or negative in general. I have sun conj my venus and it's not hard at all. Or saturn conj my moon being bith in cap - no biggie at all because I worked on myself.Posted by AquaNextDoorPosted by UnicornSagI have moon conj venus too! I don't experience emotions in a negative way most of the time, I'm also very vocal about them which helps me process them. I might not whine all over the place but I do process them and try to understand themPosted by Senorita_LLPosted by AquaNextDoorOh my mom is a Cap with Aqua moon too. Cold, cold nights. But she's hilarious.Posted by Senorita_LLI don't have that placement but my pisces mum's aqua moon made her also quite distant. But that also taught me to rely on myself and be less demanding as a kid. We have a great relationshipPosted by AquaNextDoorNot really because in such a way, I've learned how to depend on myself when it comes to emotions. I don't have a bad relationship with my mom, in fact I love that woman so much.Posted by Senorita_LLSo do you think this affected you negatively? Your moms behavior?
I do and I agree with Koniuchaa. My mom used to be controlling and emotionally distant when I was young.
I kept most of my emotions to myself because I don't feel like people understand me.
It's a struggle indeed.
It was more of a struggle when I was in my teens, though. Those times were really crazy.
How about you?![]()
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Oh wow...my Cap has same...he's impossible with emotions![]()
and has this aspect as well...I don't know if he can be helped at all...
not only Cap sun Aqua moon and Moon square pluto but Also Sun conjunct Moon and Moon conjunct Venus...anything that has anything to do with emotions screwed him in all ways it could :/
ah this guy is a special case...he has many bad aspects to make that all messed up. One aspect won't screw you over if you have some others to balance it but he's just like doomed when it comes to emotions lol also Sun conjunct Moon is a rare aspect that can screw one over too, it's also in quite proximate degrees, occurs when the new Moon happens. He doesn't vocalize his emotions at all. I cracked him a bit, found his weak point where I can get him to open up a bit but every time he does, he will retreat back to his shell so it's very very difficult person to handle, but he's being worse to himself, that's worse than others not getting through to him
But that's dating 101 - if we put astrology aside - you can't and you won't fix a guy! He let's you see what he wants you to see and the female idea of "helping" a man is utopic since its not going to happen. Women want to believe that they help him open up and all that other ish but what really happens is that with the right girl (in his eyes) that sucker will move mountains, will be ready for committment faster than you can spell it and won't have any issues on being the man to keep that said lady happy and satisfied including sharing his emotions.
Men who seem emotionally unavailable aren't in 9/10 cases - it's the old "she's not the one" - doesn't mean they won't settle for a placeholder relationship until the real deal comes a long. So no.. I don't believe in this whole "this guy is a special/complicated case" nor does astrology justify it. No offense though!
No I don't believe in "fixing" someone either! I mean no matter how much I'll have the urge to help someone from time to time I'm well aware that's impossible. We all are as we are, so I don't believe in that concept either when women want and believe they can "fix" a guy.
With this particular guy I'm saying that he's complicated case because he's out of reach, we only had online thing, never got to meet in real life so never got a chance to make it work actually and given a lot of his placements in chart he's quick to run away from problems and won't bother much going into what seems inconvenient and LDR with someone from another continent, culture and religion is definitely inconvenience I'd say for such person! Do I believe I could "fix" this? No, and I don't want to. I want someone who fights along with me to make it work past obstacles. I'm a warrior but want a warrior for myself as well. Only thing I'm sad at this point is that we didn't get to meet in person, he did say he still wants to see me but I don't know how wise would that be to happen, maybe it's better left as it is...![]()
I agree with you, would rather try at least before giving upbut we're very far away, different continents...about 2.5h by plane from my neighbor country direct flight is best option I could find lol
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