Pluto Squares Master Post

This topic was created in the Astrology forum by SirHorns on Monday, December 28, 2015 and has 29 replies.
Got a Pluto square with one of the following:
- Sun
-Moon
-Mars
-Venus
-Mercury
-Jupiter
-Saturn

Feel free to post any articles you've read on them that resonated with you.
Also vids about them are appreciated as well.

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LaFille informed us of this one:
http://astroarena12.blogspot.cz/2014/06/moon-pluto-aspects-deep-well.html
It really resonated with me, although I was lucky enough to have understanding parents, so I guess it has possibly been smoother for me than for other people. It was not friction free by any means, but probably better than it could have been.

Which lead to this one:
http://astroarena12.blogspot.cz/2014/06/sun-pluto-aspects-force-of-nature.html
This also resonated with me. Due to a weird combo of a gem rising, pisces mars and a don't fvck with me attitude that surfaced mostly if someone tried to bully me, I was lucky in that department too, but I identified with the contents of the link for the most part.

Koniucha told us of:
http://astromatrix.org/Horoscopes/Planet-Aspects/Moon-Square-Pluto
Good one, I think.

Which leads to:
http://astromatrix.org/Horoscopes/Planet-Aspects/Sun-Square-Pluto
I could identify with most of it, but not all.

The Venus sq. Pluto one from astromatrix resonated somewhat, but not so much that I want to mention it especially.

I have read a lot in different places too, but my computer hates me right now, so I'm gonna give up and take it later if I find something that I find note worthy.
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Regarding the video @OP
I am pretty good at getting what I want and I do need a strong partner who won't let me walk all over them, but I'm not bossy in a way that I tell people what to do, unless it's absolutely necessary. It's simply not smart, imo, just grows resentment - I wouldn't want anyone to do that to me. I prefer balance with a small amount of power struggle in a relationship, or it's not stimulating.
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Found another article regarding moon square pluto:
http://caitastro.blogspot.se/2009/05/moon-square-pluto-reliance-vs.html

I don't agree with exactly everything, but there were several things in that article that I haven't read anywhere before and that I feel was quite accurate, according to my experience.
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Posted by deedee85
At the risk of sounding like a total idiot, how do I figure this out? What does Pluto square mean?
I won't be offended if you laugh. I am just very curious.

Hahahahaha!ahahahahahah. Nooo, just kidding! It's a very fair question.smile

A square means a distance of 90degrees in your birth chart. So if you have a planet in your chart that is about(yes, it doesn't have to be exactly 90degrees, depending on the other planet and tbh, people seem to have different opinions about how close orbs should be) 90degrees away from pluto, then that planet is square pluto.

This is a link with the different degrees on different aspects plus orbs, according to astrology.com.
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_aspect_e.htm
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Posted by cuteboy
no i don't have pluto squaring anything in my aspects. all i have is pluto conjunct the ascendant.

I thought you had moon square pluto. Am I wrong?
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Posted by cuteboy
this thread is about pluto squares. not moon squares.

Hahahaaa
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Posted by cuteboy
shit im an amateur at squares. all i got is pluto conjunct ascendant. i don't have pluto squaring nothing. or can't pluto square anything? i don't know.

In natal I think you mention the slower moving planet first, but I'm not sure - it's just the way I usually see it done.
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shit im an amateur at squares. all i got is pluto conjunct ascendant. i don't have pluto squaring nothing. or can't pluto square anything? i don't know.

In natal I think you mention the slower moving planet first, but I'm not sure - it's just the way I usually see it done.

Confused huh?

I don't think the order matters natally. In transits, there can be a difference depending on which is the transiting planet and which is natal. Pluto square mercury may have a slightly different interpretation than Mercury square pluto, but that could be splitting hairs. Just understand the two planets first and foremost.
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Google "pluto square sun", and you will get a lot of hits for "sun square pluto". But, as you say, in natal, I can't see that it would matter - it's the same amount of degrees either way. Noone will misunderstand(I think...smile)
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^- what Camper said.
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Listened to the sun and moon square pluto videos from the same producer as the one in the OP and I think they were pretty good! In the sun one, I feel she's a little heavy on the positives, probably due to her having the aspect herself, making her a little subjective(not as bad as Alyssa Sharpe can be when she talks about her husband's placements, but still), but otherwise I thought it was pretty good.

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I have Scorpio Pluto square to Leo sun. I don't know any articles, but will write what I feel myself.

At times I feel connected to my generation. I want to be apart of them, be popular, liked, loved, whatever, but then the mask fades and I realize how pathetic and evil my generation is. They've been pretty much raised on violence and demons, so then I want to be the complete opposite and over throw everything they stand for.

Its like if you can't beat them or join then, make their lives a living hell. I just hate my generation with a passion. Mostly because they don't care about each other or give sympathy/compassion for their fellow man. When they need help, or they feel sad, everyone bends to help ease the pain. But the second I need help the little fuckers say fuck you, your issues aren't my problem. I deeply seek and want revenge.
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Posted by Soul
I have Scorpio Pluto square to Leo sun. I don't know any articles, but will write what I feel myself.

At times I feel connected to my generation. I want to be apart of them, be popular, liked, loved, whatever, but then the mask fades and I realize how pathetic and evil my generation is. They've been pretty much raised on violence and demons, so then I want to be the complete opposite and over throw everything they stand for.

Its like if you can't beat them or join then, make their lives a living hell. I just hate my generation with a passion. Mostly because they don't care about each other or give sympathy/compassion for their fellow man. When they need help, or they feel sad, everyone bends to help ease the pain. But the second I need help the little fuckers say fuck you, your issues aren't my problem. I deeply seek and want revenge.

I'm sorry you feel that way! But I don't know how it's even possible to be angry at a whole generation. I don't know it this is true in your case, but from experience, I have found that hatred towards towards a large group of people whom most are strangers to you is a sign of self hatred. One of the merits of the sun square pluto aspect is that in time we are supposed to learn to accept ourselves - it's not always fun, but worth it in the end...or so I hear. All the best! smile
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I think It might be the lack of air in my chart, or even cap Saturn, but sometimes I suffocate within my own thoughts and feel a need to rebel against things.
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Posted by Soul
I think It might be the lack of air in my chart, or even cap Saturn, but sometimes I suffocate within my own thoughts and feel a need to rebel against things.

May I ask, what's your moon and mars and what hard aspects do you have to or between them?
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Posted by Soul
I think It might be the lack of air in my chart, or even cap Saturn, but sometimes I suffocate within my own thoughts and feel a need to rebel against things.

May I ask, what's your moon and mars and what hard aspects do you have to or between them?
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Funny you ask.

Scorpio moon opposite Taurus mars lol.
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Posted by Soul
I think It might be the lack of air in my chart, or even cap Saturn, but sometimes I suffocate within my own thoughts and feel a need to rebel against things.

May I ask, what's your moon and mars and what hard aspects do you have to or between them?

Funny you ask.

Scorpio moon opposite Taurus mars lol.
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Interesting. smile

Found this:
http://astromatrix.org/Horoscopes/Planet-Aspects/Moon-Opposition-Mars
Don't know how applicable it is in your case.

And then add a scorpio moon and a taurus mars to that equation... Yes, interesting. smile

What do you think?
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Posted by Soul
I think It might be the lack of air in my chart, or even cap Saturn, but sometimes I suffocate within my own thoughts and feel a need to rebel against things.

May I ask, what's your moon and mars and what hard aspects do you have to or between them?

Funny you ask.

Scorpio moon opposite Taurus mars lol.

Interesting. smile

Found this:
http://astromatrix.org/Horoscopes/Planet-Aspects/Moon-Opposition-Mars
Don't know how applicable it is in your case.

And then add a scorpio moon and a taurus mars to that equation... Yes, interesting. smile

What do you think?
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Oh my, that's so accurate it's creepy.

Thanks for this!
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I think It might be the lack of air in my chart, or even cap Saturn, but sometimes I suffocate within my own thoughts and feel a need to rebel against things.

May I ask, what's your moon and mars and what hard aspects do you have to or between them?

Funny you ask.

Scorpio moon opposite Taurus mars lol.

Interesting. smile

Found this:
http://astromatrix.org/Horoscopes/Planet-Aspects/Moon-Opposition-Mars
Don't know how applicable it is in your case.

And then add a scorpio moon and a taurus mars to that equation... Yes, interesting. smile

What do you think?

Oh my, that's so accurate it's creepy.

Thanks for this!
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Anytime. Hope it helpssmile
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Posted by Koniucha
Anyways, I have mentioned before I have moon square Pluto and I do relate to the video.

This past year had been pivotal in my life regarding changes in myself. I strongly believe now that things happen for a reason and certain people come in to, or are a part of your life for a reason. The key is seeing that and being ready for the change.

Pluto can be harsh, but can be beautiful also.

Agreed!

I know you have been studying this, so may I ask, have you found any good links that deal with this aspect in combination with the signs and houses(and their rulers) that the planets are placed in?
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Anyways, I have mentioned before I have moon square Pluto and I do relate to the video.

This past year had been pivotal in my life regarding changes in myself. I strongly believe now that things happen for a reason and certain people come in to, or are a part of your life for a reason. The key is seeing that and being ready for the change.

Pluto can be harsh, but can be beautiful also.

Agreed!

I know you have been studying this, so may I ask, have you found any good links that deal with this aspect in combination with the signs and houses(and their rulers) that the planets are placed in?

Not any other ones, just the ones that have been posted. Perhaps being a Scorpio, it might be slightly easier for me to deal with it?
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lol I though, me having a gem moon and you a cancer moon, it would be easier for me to deal. But it's true that you are born to handle plutonian energy in another way than I am. Hmm. Tricky, this.
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Here's another clip that I thought was good. I didn't identify with all of it, but a lot, tbh. Enjoy.

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I have 4 Pluto squares. It's interesting
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Posted by HappyCapper
Listened to the sun and moon square pluto videos from the same producer as the one in the OP and I think they were pretty good! In the sun one, I feel she's a little heavy on the positives, probably due to her having the aspect herself, making her a little subjective(not as bad as Alyssa Sharpe can be when she talks about her husband's placements, but still), but otherwise I thought it was pretty good.

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This one surprised me too, I didn't expect almost everything she said to be so spot on for me.
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Posted by risesafterall
I have 4 Pluto squares. It's interesting

I only have three. Which ones do you have?
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Posted by GetMisted
Moon Sq Pluto
Mars Sq Pluto

Pluto is the apex of a fixed t-Square with Moon and Mars.

Does Pluto have any special significance as an apex in a T-square? I have two, so I'm pretty curioussmile
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Posted by risesafterall
I have 4 Pluto squares. It's interesting

I only have three. Which ones do you have?
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Only? Winking Sun, Mercury, Jupiter, and Mars in Pisces square Pluto in Saggitarius.

Although I just looked at it and Mars is in a later degree so it doesn't form a square, so basically 3.
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Posted by risesafterall
I have 4 Pluto squares. It's interesting

I only have three. Which ones do you have?

Only? Winking Sun, Mercury, Jupiter, and Mars in Pisces square Pluto in Saggitarius.

Although I just looked at it and Mars is in a later degree so it doesn't form a square, so basically 3.
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Well, compared to your four...smile

You mean it's square according to sign, but not degree?
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Another Moon Square Pluto video. I identify with most of it, but not all.

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