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Jul 08, 2014Comments: 0 · Posts: 314 · Topics: 23
Hello and good morning everyone. I hope your days are going better than mine. I want to make an apology for not keeping up with the threads. I've been exhausted. School, my jobs and home are crushing me. But I do read what you guys are saying. I especially want to thank those of you who understand me, especially on my last "Virgo parents splitting up" thread.
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Apr 13, 2005Comments: 0 · Posts: 44084 · Topics: 685
I believe all hate to be irrational.
In fact, I believe all displaced emotions to be irrational.
Take you for example: You've claimed in just this thread that these are people you love, then turned around and said hate replaced love from years of abuse. So, this whole issue you have has nothing to do with you hating or loving your parents .... it has to do with you subjecting yourself personally, and so it has left you despondent, sullen and rejected. That's not hate, nor love ... yet, you displaced what is really bugging you and putting positioning on (other) things that have happened to you in your life.
This issue you are having is that you are taking everything personal your parents say or do. And though, I fully realize that when you were a child (which is where this psychosis was developed) you had no choice except to accept into your rationale that guilt-associations are how people are suppose to process their thoughts. Certainly, there isn't a more passive-aggressive person than a Virgo, eh? So, how/why this is what you learned, isn't your fault.
BUT .... you are an adult now. And in so being you are suppose to overcome, rather then wallow helplessly in an abyss of dark waters.
When I told you on the Virgo board that you had an opportunity for change ... I was talking about you changing, not them.
duh ........
You have two choices .... you swim one way, or the other. There's no inbetween. You either sit there in the coffee shop like a beaten and starved little helpless doormat .... or you flip the switch and disassociate your feelings as being relative to them.
Jump stream and swim the other way. You're a Fish, those are your only choices.
why the hell do I have to explain this to a Pisces? That fact alone should be enough for you to realize you're fucked up and need to self check.
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Apr 13, 2005Comments: 0 · Posts: 44084 · Topics: 685
And for those who aren't Pisces ... I'm not talking about cleaving yourself from the other in terms of love. I'm talking about disassociating the relevancy of love, so that it is possible to not experience emotional injury.
that's not to say that after the ordeal is sorted out .... that the Pisces cannot reconnect. On The Contrary, actually.
We do it all the time, and I don't understand why the OP isn't doing it.
You take how you feel out of your heart, and lay it on the table .... deal with traumatic life issue, then put your heart back in. At this point, the Fish changes I(sometimes entire) their being into a new relationship experience with this same person.
The answer is so simple, I don't know why people are so attached to their feelings that they cannot do this. Why can't you all do it?
There's no way you are a Pisces, if you haven't mastered the art of disconnection by 5 years old.
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Jul 08, 2014Comments: 0 · Posts: 314 · Topics: 23
I don't understand any of the above and don't think you've understood me at all. If you are commenting and trying to help, thank you.
I can't change my parents. I haven't tried to change my parents. I do take things personally. Especially when they let go of their financial situation and family situation. I have siblings. The morning after they decided to split up, I skipped work in the morning. I woke up earlier than my parents, woke up my sisters and took them out to breakfast before school. I had to be the strong one because I knew if they saw me waver that they wouldn't have support. I told them that they needed to ignore them when they fought, to never get in the middle, and to do their homework and their chores and try their best to leave the room when they got into a fight. I also told them to not tell my brother, who is at college, bc he is in the middle of exam week and I don't think it would be fair to stress him out even more.
I had to take the stacks of bills under the couch and steal my parent's debit card and pay all of the bills- mortgage, electricity, cell. All of it wasn't getting paid and they had already cut the cable because of it. I had to pay some of the bills because I couldn't find another card to finish paying them.
I'm trying to be the pillar for this family and I understand that sometimes things don't work out. I'm a strong person, at least I'm trying to be, and I can't and won't "jump streams" when the going gets tough. Virgo are the epitome of my let downs in this life and I can do my best to steer clear of them. They only provide toxic fumes for me... I let go of nearly everything, even to the point of being called a doormat. But this is one of those things I just won't let go.
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Apr 13, 2005Comments: 0 · Posts: 44084 · Topics: 685
You HAVE to APPLY to your comprehension that despite your feelings, your parents are human. So, therefore they are also at a bad place.
Here you are whining because of your feelings, while in reality, you aren't losing anything. You will still have both of your parents.
THEM on the otherhand .... are both losing their life partner. They are in the throes of experiencing great loss in their life.
So, when I said comfort them, I meant by pulling your conditions of relating your feelings (love) out of the equation for consideration .... so that the only emotional disturbances flying around are theirs trying to find their footage.
Seriously, wtf?
Why do people have to be told these things, is my question?
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Jul 08, 2014Comments: 0 · Posts: 314 · Topics: 23
are you done? Because you are picking through, desperately trying to find a trace to find me wrong in my feelings. If you aren't helping, back off. My feelings aren't wrong. My initial post was asking the question WHY virgos behave in this way. None of what you have said to me has been helpful in any way. Please stop wasting your time unless you would cordially help me in answering this.
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May 11, 2013Comments: 6 · Posts: 427 · Topics: 14
Hang in there... This too shall pass...