Love in the house of dreams, illusions, undoing...Does it make one have a wrong perception about love, feeling that no one really cares, even the closest people like Family or friends?
Venus 12th house - Love denied
Wrong again. You never learn do you?
Posted by AerialViewAgain 😢
Wrong again. You never learn do you?
Im seriously thinking about avoiding relationships, Im too intense
Posted by Infinite8Thanks a lot!
In matters of romantic love, I would highly disagree. Ive been quite lucky and overall have felt to be in a position of always being able to choose and get best pickings.
But with family and friends it has definitely felt that way at times. I think I am unfair with family and friends. Because they gave me all they could. So, I need to remember that - whereas I get caught up in this feeling of "I gave my all but they didn't do they same".
They did do the same, as in giving their best. Just not exactly "my way".
When seen objectively, it's not that bad. It's just a perception that I need to work on.
You just described my feelings. I Always feel like Family and friends don't care about me but looking back I see that I've never did nothing for them and Always expect the best.
About love its like you said, I've been quite Lucky and have been with some amazing girls but I Always expect them to match my model of perfection and come too Strong on them with these needs (Vênus Opp Pluto and Scorpio Moon) So, I don't know...Its the 2nd girl and time in the last 6 months. As 90% of the users here said, the problem is me and I don't know if I can change.
Posted by raad182And become a hermit?Posted by AerialViewAgain 😢
Wrong again. You never learn do you?
Im seriously thinking about avoiding relationships, Im too intenseclick to expand
Posted by KoniuchaaWhat is 12th house issue?
You just have to be aware. I have Mars in the 12th, so I have that issue, but with men. I also tend to attract men that have 12th house issues
Posted by Koniuchaa?Posted by AerialViewThey are unavailable, some have addictions, some mental issuesPosted by KoniuchaaWhat is 12th house issue?
You just have to be aware. I have Mars in the 12th, so I have that issue, but with men. I also tend to attract men that have 12th house issuesclick to expand
Posted by raad182just sounds like a selfish issue. you want to take more than give.Posted by Infinite8Thanks a lot!
In matters of romantic love, I would highly disagree. Ive been quite lucky and overall have felt to be in a position of always being able to choose and get best pickings.
But with family and friends it has definitely felt that way at times. I think I am unfair with family and friends. Because they gave me all they could. So, I need to remember that - whereas I get caught up in this feeling of "I gave my all but they didn't do they same".
They did do the same, as in giving their best. Just not exactly "my way".
When seen objectively, it's not that bad. It's just a perception that I need to work on.
You just described my feelings. I Always feel like Family and friends don't care about me but looking back I see that I've never did nothing for them and Always expect the best.
About love its like you said, I've been quite Lucky and have been with some amazing girls but I Always expect them to match my model of perfection and come too Strong on them with these needs (Vênus Opp Pluto and Scorpio Moon) So, I don't know...Its the 2nd girl and time in the last 6 months. As 90% of the users here said, the problem is me and I don't know if I can change.click to expand
Posted by AerialViewIdk man, its getting worsePosted by raad182And become a hermit?Posted by AerialViewAgain 😢
Wrong again. You never learn do you?
Im seriously thinking about avoiding relationships, Im too intenseclick to expand
Posted by raad182Let's not talk about it.Posted by AerialViewIdk man, its getting worsePosted by raad182And become a hermit?Posted by AerialViewAgain 😢
Wrong again. You never learn do you?
Im seriously thinking about avoiding relationships, Im too intense
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Get that tattoos of yours done instead.
Posted by KoniuchaaBut in our case, the 12th people who comes to our lifes are reliable?
You just have to be aware. I have Mars in the 12th, so I have that issue, but with men. I also tend to attract men that have 12th house issues
Posted by KoniuchaaSeriously? But my Venus is in Taurus...what about your mars?Posted by raad182So far, they are notPosted by KoniuchaaBut in our case, the 12th people who comes to our lifes are reliable?
You just have to be aware. I have Mars in the 12th, so I have that issue, but with men. I also tend to attract men that have 12th house issuesclick to expand
Posted by KoniuchaaThis is why they arent reliable lolPosted by raad182I'm only speaking for myself. I have Sagittarius MarsPosted by KoniuchaaSeriously? But my Venus is in Taurus...what about your mars?Posted by raad182So far, they are notPosted by KoniuchaaBut in our case, the 12th people who comes to our lifes are reliable?
You just have to be aware. I have Mars in the 12th, so I have that issue, but with men. I also tend to attract men that have 12th house issues
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So why you are saying that I should trust if you dont trust them?
Posted by KoniuchaaSo what is your point?Posted by raad182I didn't say that you should trust themPosted by KoniuchaaThis is why they arent reliable lolPosted by raad182I'm only speaking for myself. I have Sagittarius MarsPosted by KoniuchaaSeriously? But my Venus is in Taurus...what about your mars?Posted by raad182So far, they are notPosted by KoniuchaaBut in our case, the 12th people who comes to our lifes are reliable?
You just have to be aware. I have Mars in the 12th, so I have that issue, but with men. I also tend to attract men that have 12th house issues
So why you are saying that I should trust if you dont trust them?
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Im confused now
Posted by KoniuchaaDid you mean 12th house inside your house (synastry) or 12th house from their natal chart?Posted by raad182So far, they are notPosted by KoniuchaaBut in our case, the 12th people who comes to our lifes are reliable?
You just have to be aware. I have Mars in the 12th, so I have that issue, but with men. I also tend to attract men that have 12th house issuesclick to expand
Posted by KoniuchaaSo those unreliable could be anyone not just 12th house people?Posted by AerialViewUmmm, I have Mars in my 12th house. I'm saying that having that placement sometimes attracts unreliable peoplePosted by KoniuchaaDid you mean 12th house inside your house (synastry) or 12th house from their natal chart?Posted by raad182So far, they are notPosted by KoniuchaaBut in our case, the 12th people who comes to our lifes are reliable?
You just have to be aware. I have Mars in the 12th, so I have that issue, but with men. I also tend to attract men that have 12th house issues
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Posted by KoniuchaaYeah but Neptune is the higher octave of Venus... but for Mars I agree with you. Beware of violence during travels or coming from foreignersPosted by raad182I was talking about the 12th house. Just sharing my experience. All I said was you need to be awarePosted by KoniuchaaSo what is your point?Posted by raad182I didn't say that you should trust themPosted by KoniuchaaThis is why they arent reliable lolPosted by raad182I'm only speaking for myself. I have Sagittarius MarsPosted by KoniuchaaSeriously? But my Venus is in Taurus...what about your mars?Posted by raad182So far, they are notPosted by KoniuchaaBut in our case, the 12th people who comes to our lifes are reliable?
You just have to be aware. I have Mars in the 12th, so I have that issue, but with men. I also tend to attract men that have 12th house issues
So why you are saying that I should trust if you dont trust them?
Im confused now
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I have a 12th house Venus. I don't really believe in love. I've posted on this topic before... My Venus is also unaspected and dead-center Gemini, so it's tough to isolate the house alone as an influence. I was able to realize that 99.99% of couples pair based solely on physical appearance (a.k.a. the 0 to 10 scale). They then proceed to form a contract - which is nothing more than a 'you're the best that I can get and I'm the best that you can get' type agreement, which is subsequently deemed love. What is pure or 'loving' about that scenario? The reality of the situation is that this is some sort of shallow, animalistic hell, and people are mating based on animal instincts. Unbiased love isn't real and looks are all that matter.
Posted by AerialViewWhat's Moskau?
Wrong again. You never learn do you?
Posted by KoniuchaaI just met with a great plastic surgeon yesterday and I am meeting with an additional oral/plastic surgeon in two more weeks. I plan to fix my jaw and nose issues in the near future and then I will be good looking enough to get whatever I want in terms of a girlfriend. This makes sense, since I have both Sun and Moon in the first house of self/body, in Cancer, and Cancer rules security. (Emotional security is important to me with regard to my physical appearance). I also have my second ruler (which governs my income and assets), the Sun, in my first house, which means that I would spend extra income on enhancing my physical appearance.Posted by PiscesMarsFighter29Find a woman with Mars in the 12th
I have a 12th house Venus. I don't really believe in love. I've posted on this topic before... My Venus is also unaspected and dead-center Gemini, so it's tough to isolate the house alone as an influence. I was able to realize that 99.99% of couples pair based solely on physical appearance (a.k.a. the 0 to 10 scale). They then proceed to form a contract - which is nothing more than a 'you're the best that I can get and I'm the best that you can get' type agreement, which is subsequently deemed love. What is pure or 'loving' about that scenario? The reality of the situation is that this is some sort of shallow, animalistic hell, and people are mating based on animal instincts. Unbiased love isn't real and looks are all that matter.click to expand
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