Venus Conjunct Pluto in Scorpio Synastry
What do you guys think about venus conj pluto in synastry? Also any extra thoughts if it's in Scorpio?...
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Posted by libraman20Wow...this put some things in perspective for me. Thank you!Posted by stillstillwater
Venus folks? how do you feel?
Because being Pluto feels like shit. lol. It's like this person is an inspiration to you but you think that you are to them just another option.
While there's obviously more to it than just being "the Pluto" or "the Venus", it sucked to be the Venus person with my ex.
I could feel/sense the deep obsession on her part, but she'd never admit to it, and would act coldly whenever I put my feelings out on the table. And then she'd stare longingly at me, which would just baffle me more...like is having the "upper hand" that much more important than having a healthy relationship?
In retrospect, I think she wanted me to fully submit and "bend the knee", but why would I do that when she never showed any love back? I naturally started to distance myself, which made her act even more erratically/angrily.click to expand
Damn that was a long post lol
This was only 2 months of us seeing each other. 🙄 But I feel like that's a pretty good recent example of the dynamic of Pluto and Venus.
I have more examples...10 yrs worth and another 7 yrs worth lol...those we had a lot more Pluto aspects and dw. Glutton for punishment 😂
This was only 2 months of us seeing each other. 🙄 But I feel like that's a pretty good recent example of the dynamic of Pluto and Venus.
I have more examples...10 yrs worth and another 7 yrs worth lol...those we had a lot more Pluto aspects and dw. Glutton for punishment 😂
Well this is interesting. I have both Venus and Pluto in Scorpio and most people my age have Pluto Scorpio. I don’t know enough about how aspects in one chart effect the person in the other but I can say I’m pretty sexually dominant and demanding. If I’m really interested in the girl I will let her know ahead of time because I am going to push her boundaries and introduce her to things she’s probaably never thought of or maybe she has but has never tried. If I don’t see the relationship going anywhere then I just do what I do and she experiences some crazy shit and then we go our separate ways and maybe from time to time I hear from her to relieve some stress.
However, there’s been two times where I’ve felt disempowered by the girl. Like I was giving her the keys to destroy me from the inside and trusting she wouldn’t. That was some scary shit. One of the situations I self sabotaged it because I didn’t like feeling like she had this power over me. The second one we dated for a few years probably should’ve only been one and it was an extremely intense relationship for both sides.
They also had Pluto Scorpio so idk what was different on how it effected the relationship or what other aspects played a role, but it’s an interesting concept that I’ll be more aware of.
However, there’s been two times where I’ve felt disempowered by the girl. Like I was giving her the keys to destroy me from the inside and trusting she wouldn’t. That was some scary shit. One of the situations I self sabotaged it because I didn’t like feeling like she had this power over me. The second one we dated for a few years probably should’ve only been one and it was an extremely intense relationship for both sides.
They also had Pluto Scorpio so idk what was different on how it effected the relationship or what other aspects played a role, but it’s an interesting concept that I’ll be more aware of.
Posted by ImpulsvYes I am...we met like 5 years ago. Had some unrealistic expectations that somehow we'd work out (mostly on my side) despite the long distance and despite that we just met only two days. lol. so that's pretty unrealistic and weird to think someone you just met and seen for 2 days now you'll try to make it work through LDR. He egged it on but I'm the one who took it to heart but I quickly realized that the speed and reasons I was falling for this guy were very unhealthy so I blocked him etc moved on. He was still on my FB. But we didn't talk at all except little comments here and there. So we didn't talk for like 3ish years.
@Stillstillwater are you still with this person
I haven’t seen him in 4 years but had a vivid dream
About him last night
How are you dealing with
I’m think I’m ready to start over with a lesser connection
Then randomly almost a year ago we started talking again. he had JUST broken up with his long term gf of 2 years. I was at the ends of a toxic relationship. That's when things went down hill. Because imagine being Pluto in a situation that you haven't talked to this person in years and all your knowledge/expectations/infatuation is based on meeting them twice. It's ridiculous lol. But I had that...and of course he egged it on as a rebound I suppose. I had found out that he had visited where I am with his gf and was like why didn't you msg me? We could've met up as friends... this was totally inappropriate I realize but that's just what it was. I knew I wanted to see him regardless of everything else even if it was just as friends. In hindsight between him and I it will never be just friends.
I kept asking for more communication and he kept ignoring it. Although I understand because despite the ends of my relationship I was still in it. So the whole thing was shady and unhealthy. But we just kept talking, blocking, & unblocking. Every time I'd try to cool it he would just say something to spark it all over. And not just normal flirty lines like "you're cute" or "i'm thinking of you" or something shallow but really deep things. Some examples are: if I was there with you I'd just know it that you're the one. I've always thought you were the one. I would want to marry you. Despite everything I feel like you're mine. You're perfect for me. I know i'd be happy with you. I'd forever be your loyal pet. Sometimes before going to bed I think about you and get sad (you know as Pluto that pokes at you).
Then he was going back and forth with his ex then I guess like 6 months ago it officially ended for good. He was really heart broken & jaded. I also ended my relationship some months after. So just last week I got to see him on two occasions as he was in town. Our communication was rocky at best during his stay here because I felt he wasn't prioritizing me given our flirtatious past and that he was just being selfish ( I posted about it on the Cap board btw). But nonetheless we did meet and the time that we were together was quite enchanting. The day he was leaving our communication had gone from night to day for the better. The next day same thing we were so open and understanding with each other. He was expressing so many positive feelings for me and asking sweet follow up questions.
I don't know I think there might be something. So through all of this I learned to be more open and share my feelings despite how much it would hurt. I learned that I just had to do it for me without any hopes or expectations. Just knowing that I'm putting my truth out there. On his last day I actually did tell him that I want to apologize for all the times that I was pushy and I don't want to add stress to his life. I want to be a fond memory. Also clarified that just because we spent those wonderful moments together doesn't mean i have any expectations of him, we can be just friends. He kind of took that the wrong way and was like "You don't like talking to me?" "You didn't have a good time with me?" So i just clarified.
Pluto/Venus Conjunct is so beautiful but needs so much self-control and understanding from Pluto person and needs more trust and bravery from the Venus person. Openness from both people. I was communicating my desire for the relationship in an combative way like "Why you don't call me?? Why you didn't answer? You just keep ignoring me (which were all valid and true). But Venus is more soft and like "I like talking to you" "I'm sad we can't see each other". I think their way of communication is healthier so I'm trying to be like that too now. It's working better. It's hard not to have expectations/desires but I'm really trying not to.
I don't think you should focus on a lesser connection but rather finding ways to express your emotions in a healthy way and may be always check your expectations based on the reality of the relationship? it's so hard to do but may be possible? After this type of connection though it's hard to go back to a more comfortable one. You might find it boring? But may be not. What do you think?
@impulsv this is how bad the communication is:
On July 4th I told him that we can watch the fireworks together at the beach.
But I went to a friends bbq that was 5 mins from the beach. We were just msging each other. He kept sending me pics and telling me I'm at this location but without really inviting me. I got comfortable at my friends so didn'tn take it as as ign that he wanted me to meet up there. So after fireworks, i was like hey so you want to come out? And he said no I'm already in bed now. You said you want to meet for fireworks. Iw as looking for you. Let's meet tomorrow.
He was nonchalant about it like no biggie. But i was like wtf i'm 5 mins away! Just come out. Let me tell you I spent an hour trying to convince him! I felt so retarded like i'm begging this person to see me. I was literally in tears. Regardless of all that he was so adamant to meet up another day. And that's what we did.
I know my part... I messed up with the whole not meeting up when I said I would but also he wasn't asking me to come by either. It was like an unsaid expectation that nobody was saying anything about. It was the weirdest experience.
See if I was in his shoes I would've said hey i'm at the beach now what time you coming. That would cut all the bs.
On July 4th I told him that we can watch the fireworks together at the beach.
But I went to a friends bbq that was 5 mins from the beach. We were just msging each other. He kept sending me pics and telling me I'm at this location but without really inviting me. I got comfortable at my friends so didn'tn take it as as ign that he wanted me to meet up there. So after fireworks, i was like hey so you want to come out? And he said no I'm already in bed now. You said you want to meet for fireworks. Iw as looking for you. Let's meet tomorrow.
He was nonchalant about it like no biggie. But i was like wtf i'm 5 mins away! Just come out. Let me tell you I spent an hour trying to convince him! I felt so retarded like i'm begging this person to see me. I was literally in tears. Regardless of all that he was so adamant to meet up another day. And that's what we did.
I know my part... I messed up with the whole not meeting up when I said I would but also he wasn't asking me to come by either. It was like an unsaid expectation that nobody was saying anything about. It was the weirdest experience.
See if I was in his shoes I would've said hey i'm at the beach now what time you coming. That would cut all the bs.
Another jam for our dear Pluto Synastry aspects:
You'll always be my baby
I'm always thinkin of you baby
Touch me in the mornin
and last thing at night
keep my body warm baby, u know it feels right
take it a little higher
i'm takin it too
tell me what your feelin
i'll feel it with you
We cant always understand what we are shown
how was i supposed to know our love would grow
Move a little closer
make sure i'm looking up
heal me with your loving
i need you so much
You touch my mind in special places
my heart races with you
i'll take your love and i'll take my chances
I'll take them with you
Touch me in the morning
and last thing at night
keep my body warm baby, u know it feels right
take it a little higher
i'm taking it too
tell me what your feelin
i'll feel it with you
i need you so much
You'll always be my baby
I'm always thinkin of you baby
Touch me in the mornin
and last thing at night
keep my body warm baby, u know it feels right
take it a little higher
i'm takin it too
tell me what your feelin
i'll feel it with you
We cant always understand what we are shown
how was i supposed to know our love would grow
Move a little closer
make sure i'm looking up
heal me with your loving
i need you so much
You touch my mind in special places
my heart races with you
i'll take your love and i'll take my chances
I'll take them with you
Touch me in the morning
and last thing at night
keep my body warm baby, u know it feels right
take it a little higher
i'm taking it too
tell me what your feelin
i'll feel it with you
i need you so much
Posted by ImpulsvActually forgot to mention! Yes every time we have an off day I have dreams of him on and on. See i'd never tell him this. He'll think i'm some kind of a freak lol.
@Stillstillwater are you still with this person
I haven’t seen him in 4 years but had a vivid dream
About him last night
How are you dealing with
I’m think I’m ready to start over with a lesser connection
But may be I will actually because once he said he's dreamed of us but not sure if he meant an actual dream or was just using it as a phrase. One way to find out. Ukh.
We were walking and as a I joke I said, "there's always something between us.First the distance and now the rain! We're like star crossed lovers with always something in between."
He said, "that's what makes it even better."
Like he always knows what to say. I hate that.
Btw he got Moon/Pluto aspect in his natal chart.
He said, "that's what makes it even better."
Like he always knows what to say. I hate that.
Btw he got Moon/Pluto aspect in his natal chart.
Posted by six4sixWhy do you think those couple of times the girl had the power? And why you didn't like it?
Well this is interesting. I have both Venus and Pluto in Scorpio and most people my age have Pluto Scorpio. I don’t know enough about how aspects in one chart effect the person in the other but I can say I’m pretty sexually dominant and demanding. If I’m really interested in the girl I will let her know ahead of time because I am going to push her boundaries and introduce her to things she’s probaably never thought of or maybe she has but has never tried. If I don’t see the relationship going anywhere then I just do what I do and she experiences some crazy shit and then we go our separate ways and maybe from time to time I hear from her to relieve some stress.
However, there’s been two times where I’ve felt disempowered by the girl. Like I was giving her the keys to destroy me from the inside and trusting she wouldn’t. That was some scary shit. One of the situations I self sabotaged it because I didn’t like feeling like she had this power over me. The second one we dated for a few years probably should’ve only been one and it was an extremely intense relationship for both sides.
They also had Pluto Scorpio so idk what was different on how it effected the relationship or what other aspects played a role, but it’s an interesting concept that I’ll be more aware of.
Posted by Impulsvouch. Why are people scared of such meaningful connections?Posted by stillstillwaterPosted by six4sixWhy do you think those couple of times the girl had the power? And why you didn't like it?
Well this is interesting. I have both Venus and Pluto in Scorpio and most people my age have Pluto Scorpio. I don’t know enough about how aspects in one chart effect the person in the other but I can say I’m pretty sexually dominant and demanding. If I’m really interested in the girl I will let her know ahead of time because I am going to push her boundaries and introduce her to things she’s probaably never thought of or maybe she has but has never tried. If I don’t see the relationship going anywhere then I just do what I do and she experiences some crazy shit and then we go our separate ways and maybe from time to time I hear from her to relieve some stress.
However, there’s been two times where I’ve felt disempowered by the girl. Like I was giving her the keys to destroy me from the inside and trusting she wouldn’t. That was some scary shit. One of the situations I self sabotaged it because I didn’t like feeling like she had this power over me. The second one we dated for a few years probably should’ve only been one and it was an extremely intense relationship for both sides.
They also had Pluto Scorpio so idk what was different on how it effected the relationship or what other aspects played a role, but it’s an interesting concept that I’ll be more aware of.
You know my cousin meet someone who he left because he felt she had power over him
She told him he was giving up the best love and future ever.
She wasn’t even using it against him. He said he couldn’t stop thinking of her n was obsessed n he had to let her go because it was not right that someone cal have power over him
He married
Wife does not love him and is like whatever
His karmaclick to expand
But part of me does understand it. It's very obsessive. Like the only minute I stopped thinking about him was when I went out with some friends but even then I was taking pictures that I could show him later.
Looking at his pictures. Reading old texts. Writing about him.
Like that's too much and exhausting because I should be doing better things with my time. So I promised myself tomorrow will be different. haha So i guess I can understand it ifi t's too overwhelming. But i'd try to work on myself rather than run away from the whole experience. Someone can only have so much power as you let them, right?
Posted by stillstillwaterI have this aspect too... and im the Pluto person.
We were walking and as a I joke I said, "there's always something between us.First the distance and now the rain! We're like star crossed lovers with always something in between."
He said, "that's what makes it even better."
Like he always knows what to say. I hate that.
Btw he got Moon/Pluto aspect in his natal chart.
Last thursday i was the one who had a dream... this morning he sent me a message that he dreamt about me. The dreams never stop showing even after almost 2yrs that we havent seen each other in flesh.
It is an exhausting connection that never goes.
What did you do about yours?
Also, i found out that im always the pluto person with all the guys i had a thing with ~😰
Posted by fishcrabscale2Wow yes I agree. We hadn't seen each other in 4 years and I'd have vivid dreams about him. After 5 years of not seeing him when I hugged him it's like i had just seen him yesterday. it was so weird.Posted by stillstillwaterI have this aspect too... and im the Pluto person.
We were walking and as a I joke I said, "there's always something between us.First the distance and now the rain! We're like star crossed lovers with always something in between."
He said, "that's what makes it even better."
Like he always knows what to say. I hate that.
Btw he got Moon/Pluto aspect in his natal chart.
Last thursday i was the one who had a dream... this morning he sent me a message that he dreamt about me. The dreams never stop showing even after almost 2yrs that we havent seen each other in flesh.
It is an exhausting connection that never goes.
What did you do about yours?
Also, i found out that im always the pluto person with all the guys i had a thing with ~😰click to expand
For mine... I'm actually trying. We're either going to soar or seriously going to crash & burn on my end.
Posted by fishcrabscale2Also do you prefer to be the Venus person?Posted by stillstillwaterI have this aspect too... and im the Pluto person.
We were walking and as a I joke I said, "there's always something between us.First the distance and now the rain! We're like star crossed lovers with always something in between."
He said, "that's what makes it even better."
Like he always knows what to say. I hate that.
Btw he got Moon/Pluto aspect in his natal chart.
Last thursday i was the one who had a dream... this morning he sent me a message that he dreamt about me. The dreams never stop showing even after almost 2yrs that we havent seen each other in flesh.
It is an exhausting connection that never goes.
What did you do about yours?
Also, i found out that im always the pluto person with all the guys i had a thing with ~😰click to expand
Posted by stillstillwaterI dont know the difference coz im always the Pluto person. It might be better and less intense to be the Venus person?Posted by fishcrabscale2Also do you prefer to be the Venus person?Posted by stillstillwaterI have this aspect too... and im the Pluto person.
We were walking and as a I joke I said, "there's always something between us.First the distance and now the rain! We're like star crossed lovers with always something in between."
He said, "that's what makes it even better."
Like he always knows what to say. I hate that.
Btw he got Moon/Pluto aspect in his natal chart.
Last thursday i was the one who had a dream... this morning he sent me a message that he dreamt about me. The dreams never stop showing even after almost 2yrs that we havent seen each other in flesh.
It is an exhausting connection that never goes.
What did you do about yours?
Also, i found out that im always the pluto person with all the guys i had a thing with ~😰click to expand
Also, it doesnt help that a lot of our other aspects are in watery places like our moons and asc
..and wow yours is 4-5 yrs 😰 i just know that it wont go away. Ive tried. And for months im trying the "softer" way to handle it like in your previous post...
So through all of this I learned to be more open and share my feelings despite how much it would hurt. I learned that I just had to do it for me without any hopes or expectations. Just knowing that I'm putting my truth out there. On his last day I actually did tell him that I want to apologize for all the times that I was pushy and I don't want to add stress to his life. I want to be a fond memory. Also clarified that just because we spent those wonderful moments together doesn't mean i have any expectations of him, we can be just friends.
Posted by fishcrabscale2Yeah exactly. You know it won't go away unless you force yourself out of it. It would take a lot of strength.Posted by stillstillwaterI dont know the difference coz im always the Pluto person. It might be better and less intense to be the Venus person?Posted by fishcrabscale2Also do you prefer to be the Venus person?Posted by stillstillwaterI have this aspect too... and im the Pluto person.
We were walking and as a I joke I said, "there's always something between us.First the distance and now the rain! We're like star crossed lovers with always something in between."
He said, "that's what makes it even better."
Like he always knows what to say. I hate that.
Btw he got Moon/Pluto aspect in his natal chart.
Last thursday i was the one who had a dream... this morning he sent me a message that he dreamt about me. The dreams never stop showing even after almost 2yrs that we havent seen each other in flesh.
It is an exhausting connection that never goes.
What did you do about yours?
Also, i found out that im always the pluto person with all the guys i had a thing with ~😰
Also, it doesnt help that a lot of our other aspects are in watery places like our moons and asc
..and wow yours is 4-5 yrs 😰 i just know that it wont go away. Ive tried. And for months im trying the "softer" way to handle it like in your previous post...
So through all of this I learned to be more open and share my feelings despite how much it would hurt. I learned that I just had to do it for me without any hopes or expectations. Just knowing that I'm putting my truth out there. On his last day I actually did tell him that I want to apologize for all the times that I was pushy and I don't want to add stress to his life. I want to be a fond memory. Also clarified that just because we spent those wonderful moments together doesn't mean i have any expectations of him, we can be just friends.click to expand
Softer approach also doesn't fuel the extreme emotions in yourself.
Posted by stillstillwaterYou know it won't go away unless you force yourself out of it ~~ you know i tried it too but doesnt work. Scorpio Pluto-this was my default mode. I was also the one that left that city... but forcing it just turned more painful. So after all the emotional turmoil i created, now im thinking why not just swim, wade deep, indulge myself until it implodesPosted by fishcrabscale2Yeah exactly. You know it won't go away unless you force yourself out of it. It would take a lot of strength.Posted by stillstillwaterI dont know the difference coz im always the Pluto person. It might be better and less intense to be the Venus person?Posted by fishcrabscale2Also do you prefer to be the Venus person?Posted by stillstillwaterI have this aspect too... and im the Pluto person.
We were walking and as a I joke I said, "there's always something between us.First the distance and now the rain! We're like star crossed lovers with always something in between."
He said, "that's what makes it even better."
Like he always knows what to say. I hate that.
Btw he got Moon/Pluto aspect in his natal chart.
Last thursday i was the one who had a dream... this morning he sent me a message that he dreamt about me. The dreams never stop showing even after almost 2yrs that we havent seen each other in flesh.
It is an exhausting connection that never goes.
What did you do about yours?
Also, i found out that im always the pluto person with all the guys i had a thing with ~😰
Also, it doesnt help that a lot of our other aspects are in watery places like our moons and asc
..and wow yours is 4-5 yrs 😰 i just know that it wont go away. Ive tried. And for months im trying the "softer" way to handle it like in your previous post...
So through all of this I learned to be more open and share my feelings despite how much it would hurt. I learned that I just had to do it for me without any hopes or expectations. Just knowing that I'm putting my truth out there. On his last day I actually did tell him that I want to apologize for all the times that I was pushy and I don't want to add stress to his life. I want to be a fond memory. Also clarified that just because we spent those wonderful moments together doesn't mean i have any expectations of him, we can be just friends.
Softer approach also doesn't fuel the extreme emotions in yourself.click to expand
Posted by fishcrabscale2So you moved to a different city to get space but now it's even worse for you?Posted by stillstillwaterYou know it won't go away unless you force yourself out of it ~~ you know i tried it too but doesnt work. Scorpio Pluto-this was my default mode. I was also the one that left that city... but forcing it just turned more painful. So after all the emotional turmoil i created, now im thinking why not just swim, wade deep, indulge myself until it implodesPosted by fishcrabscale2Yeah exactly. You know it won't go away unless you force yourself out of it. It would take a lot of strength.Posted by stillstillwaterI dont know the difference coz im always the Pluto person. It might be better and less intense to be the Venus person?Posted by fishcrabscale2Also do you prefer to be the Venus person?Posted by stillstillwaterI have this aspect too... and im the Pluto person.
We were walking and as a I joke I said, "there's always something between us.First the distance and now the rain! We're like star crossed lovers with always something in between."
He said, "that's what makes it even better."
Like he always knows what to say. I hate that.
Btw he got Moon/Pluto aspect in his natal chart.
Last thursday i was the one who had a dream... this morning he sent me a message that he dreamt about me. The dreams never stop showing even after almost 2yrs that we havent seen each other in flesh.
It is an exhausting connection that never goes.
What did you do about yours?
Also, i found out that im always the pluto person with all the guys i had a thing with ~😰
Also, it doesnt help that a lot of our other aspects are in watery places like our moons and asc
..and wow yours is 4-5 yrs 😰 i just know that it wont go away. Ive tried. And for months im trying the "softer" way to handle it like in your previous post...
So through all of this I learned to be more open and share my feelings despite how much it would hurt. I learned that I just had to do it for me without any hopes or expectations. Just knowing that I'm putting my truth out there. On his last day I actually did tell him that I want to apologize for all the times that I was pushy and I don't want to add stress to his life. I want to be a fond memory. Also clarified that just because we spent those wonderful moments together doesn't mean i have any expectations of him, we can be just friends.
Softer approach also doesn't fuel the extreme emotions in yourself.click to expand
Do you think he wants you? May be honesty is the best policy? Like just say your piece and never know where it will go. I do think Pluto/Venus can work. It's getting over the initial fear.
Posted by stillstillwaterI thought id be completely over it by (my timeline)Posted by fishcrabscale2So you moved to a different city to get space but now it's even worse for you?Posted by stillstillwaterYou know it won't go away unless you force yourself out of it ~~ you know i tried it too but doesnt work. Scorpio Pluto-this was my default mode. I was also the one that left that city... but forcing it just turned more painful. So after all the emotional turmoil i created, now im thinking why not just swim, wade deep, indulge myself until it implodesPosted by fishcrabscale2Yeah exactly. You know it won't go away unless you force yourself out of it. It would take a lot of strength.Posted by stillstillwaterI dont know the difference coz im always the Pluto person. It might be better and less intense to be the Venus person?Posted by fishcrabscale2Also do you prefer to be the Venus person?Posted by stillstillwaterI have this aspect too... and im the Pluto person.
We were walking and as a I joke I said, "there's always something between us.First the distance and now the rain! We're like star crossed lovers with always something in between."
He said, "that's what makes it even better."
Like he always knows what to say. I hate that.
Btw he got Moon/Pluto aspect in his natal chart.
Last thursday i was the one who had a dream... this morning he sent me a message that he dreamt about me. The dreams never stop showing even after almost 2yrs that we havent seen each other in flesh.
It is an exhausting connection that never goes.
What did you do about yours?
Also, i found out that im always the pluto person with all the guys i had a thing with ~😰
Also, it doesnt help that a lot of our other aspects are in watery places like our moons and asc
..and wow yours is 4-5 yrs 😰 i just know that it wont go away. Ive tried. And for months im trying the "softer" way to handle it like in your previous post...
So through all of this I learned to be more open and share my feelings despite how much it would hurt. I learned that I just had to do it for me without any hopes or expectations. Just knowing that I'm putting my truth out there. On his last day I actually did tell him that I want to apologize for all the times that I was pushy and I don't want to add stress to his life. I want to be a fond memory. Also clarified that just because we spent those wonderful moments together doesn't mean i have any expectations of him, we can be just friends.
Softer approach also doesn't fuel the extreme emotions in yourself.
Do you think he wants you? May be honesty is the best policy? Like just say your piece and never know where it will go. I do think Pluto/Venus can work. It's getting over the initial fear.click to expand
He wants me but i thought not much ~feels not enough. Also, the head vs the heart thing... he got my heart but not my head. My logical mind thinks he is not the right person. When we were still together i dreamed of my late dad saying: "Is this your boyfriend? Look at how he is behaving." ~something similar, in effect: we educated you so you can make better decisions. Maybe it was my critical brain or maybe spirits are real 😶 anyhoo, we both have Venus in Virgo. It just have to be right. In the meantime, im exercising the "soft approach"
Posted by stillstillwaterThanks for reading this, it turned out to be a much longer reply than I thought it would be lolPosted by six4sixWhy do you think those couple of times the girl had the power? And why you didn't like it?
Well this is interesting. I have both Venus and Pluto in Scorpio and most people my age have Pluto Scorpio. I don’t know enough about how aspects in one chart effect the person in the other but I can say I’m pretty sexually dominant and demanding. If I’m really interested in the girl I will let her know ahead of time because I am going to push her boundaries and introduce her to things she’s probaably never thought of or maybe she has but has never tried. If I don’t see the relationship going anywhere then I just do what I do and she experiences some crazy shit and then we go our separate ways and maybe from time to time I hear from her to relieve some stress.
However, there’s been two times where I’ve felt disempowered by the girl. Like I was giving her the keys to destroy me from the inside and trusting she wouldn’t. That was some scary shit. One of the situations I self sabotaged it because I didn’t like feeling like she had this power over me. The second one we dated for a few years probably should’ve only been one and it was an extremely intense relationship for both sides.
They also had Pluto Scorpio so idk what was different on how it effected the relationship or what other aspects played a role, but it’s an interesting concept that I’ll be more aware of.click to expand
The first girl it was my first serious relationship. We dated from 17-20, I had no idea about astrology (personally, I think Scorpio Venus can be the BEST placement when understood and used properly, but for a less evolved person, as I was at 17, it's a very heavy placement to have) She was a Aries mar, taurus Venus, I'm a Scorpio mars/venus and there was a lot of back and forth extremes. That relationship had everything, intense fights, passionate love, manipulation, cheating, power plays, everything. Looking back now, it's easy to say that it was a toxic relationship but we were two kids who had no business being in that relationship in the first place and there was so much influence from the environment that we were in that caused a lot of drama and who you are at 17 can be so different than who you are at 20. We stayed in contact for most of the time since breaking up but haven't spoke in a couple years, there's no hard feelings towards each other. We both realized who we were in that relationship isn't a true testament as to who we are as people and although we could never date again, the sexual chemistry was insane and we'll always care about each other because we both saw each other at our lowest points, and go through some really horrible shit that I'm not going to get into here. We know stuff about each other that we've never shared with anyone else and I'm always going to wish the best for her.
The second girl was a different intensity. This was two years ago. When we met we hit it off like crazy. I've never experienced instant chemistry like what we had before. We met at the gym and ended up talking for 4 hours but she wouldn't go home with me I tried more than once lol. We could talk for hours and hours and hours and never get bored. We met around my birthday and she came over one weekend, and payed for everything. Like here's this girl who just met me, payed for lunch, dinner, drinks, parking, like wtf who are you?? And while that was all great and lovely she did enjoy playing games from time to time and she was quite the tease. (gem venus) The first couple times I ignored it because we got along so well, and she wasn't actually doing anything. One night we're out and she does it again with our waiter so I brought up it later that night and I exploded. Mind you, as a kid growing up I used to get black out rage (mars/venus/pluto in Scorpio) but as I started to learn about astrology I began learning about why I did those things, what i had the potential of doing based on my placements and how I could better manage it. So I've become very good at managing my anger and around this time I hadn't blown up in a while. But heres this girl, I genuinely feel like this is one of if not the most unique connections I've ever experienced like we've known each other through multiple multiple life times, and she can't give me the least amount of courtesy. In every other way our relationship was perfect and she let me push through all of her boundaries or as she said she was putty in my hands. But the flirting, I couldn't get over it. I ended up exploding again around Christmas time (I'm HUGE on gift giving) when I got her like 5 gifts, and she got me one. Maybe that's silly to some, but it's one of my languages of love. We didn't talk again until last summer, we picked up again like nothing had happened but I realized that it would be very hard to trust her. I can't have any doubts about your loyalty or it will never work.
In hindsight I think that she was my twin flame our relationship literally checks every box of what a twin flame is. I learned a ton from that relationship and have become way more in tune with myself emotionally.
Posted by stillstillwaterAlso, I've noticed with scorpio sun women. I don't attract them as often as I do Geminis but when I do they have to have me. Like I can literally do nothing at all, and they will move mountains to be with me. I don't how much of that is pluto or just my venus but I find that interesting as well. I once dated a Scorpio sun,merc,venus, pluto, the first couple times we hung out it was really fun and sexy but it got so real so fast. We had to end it because it was getting in the way of living a normal life. lolPosted by six4sixWhy do you think those couple of times the girl had the power? And why you didn't like it?
Well this is interesting. I have both Venus and Pluto in Scorpio and most people my age have Pluto Scorpio. I don’t know enough about how aspects in one chart effect the person in the other but I can say I’m pretty sexually dominant and demanding. If I’m really interested in the girl I will let her know ahead of time because I am going to push her boundaries and introduce her to things she’s probaably never thought of or maybe she has but has never tried. If I don’t see the relationship going anywhere then I just do what I do and she experiences some crazy shit and then we go our separate ways and maybe from time to time I hear from her to relieve some stress.
However, there’s been two times where I’ve felt disempowered by the girl. Like I was giving her the keys to destroy me from the inside and trusting she wouldn’t. That was some scary shit. One of the situations I self sabotaged it because I didn’t like feeling like she had this power over me. The second one we dated for a few years probably should’ve only been one and it was an extremely intense relationship for both sides.
They also had Pluto Scorpio so idk what was different on how it effected the relationship or what other aspects played a role, but it’s an interesting concept that I’ll be more aware of.click to expand
Posted by six4sixWell the first relationship you guys were too young to even know what you want regardless of the intensity.Posted by stillstillwaterThanks for reading this, it turned out to be a much longer reply than I thought it would be lolPosted by six4sixWhy do you think those couple of times the girl had the power? And why you didn't like it?
Well this is interesting. I have both Venus and Pluto in Scorpio and most people my age have Pluto Scorpio. I don’t know enough about how aspects in one chart effect the person in the other but I can say I’m pretty sexually dominant and demanding. If I’m really interested in the girl I will let her know ahead of time because I am going to push her boundaries and introduce her to things she’s probaably never thought of or maybe she has but has never tried. If I don’t see the relationship going anywhere then I just do what I do and she experiences some crazy shit and then we go our separate ways and maybe from time to time I hear from her to relieve some stress.
However, there’s been two times where I’ve felt disempowered by the girl. Like I was giving her the keys to destroy me from the inside and trusting she wouldn’t. That was some scary shit. One of the situations I self sabotaged it because I didn’t like feeling like she had this power over me. The second one we dated for a few years probably should’ve only been one and it was an extremely intense relationship for both sides.
They also had Pluto Scorpio so idk what was different on how it effected the relationship or what other aspects played a role, but it’s an interesting concept that I’ll be more aware of.
The first girl it was my first serious relationship. We dated from 17-20, I had no idea about astrology (personally, I think Scorpio Venus can be the BEST placement when understood and used properly, but for a less evolved person, as I was at 17, it's a very heavy placement to have) She was a Aries mar, taurus Venus, I'm a Scorpio mars/venus and there was a lot of back and forth extremes. That relationship had everything, intense fights, passionate love, manipulation, cheating, power plays, everything. Looking back now, it's easy to say that it was a toxic relationship but we were two kids who had no business being in that relationship in the first place and there was so much influence from the environment that we were in that caused a lot of drama and who you are at 17 can be so different than who you are at 20. We stayed in contact for most of the time since breaking up but haven't spoke in a couple years, there's no hard feelings towards each other. We both realized who we were in that relationship isn't a true testament as to who we are as people and although we could never date again, the sexual chemistry was insane and we'll always care about each other because we both saw each other at our lowest points, and go through some really horrible shit that I'm not going to get into here. We know stuff about each other that we've never shared with anyone else and I'm always going to wish the best for her.
The second girl was a different intensity. This was two years ago. When we met we hit it off like crazy. I've never experienced instant chemistry like what we had before. We met at the gym and ended up talking for 4 hours but she wouldn't go home with me I tried more than once lol. We could talk for hours and hours and hours and never get bored. We met around my birthday and she came over one weekend, and payed for everything. Like here's this girl who just met me, payed for lunch, dinner, drinks, parking, like wtf who are you?? And while that was all great and lovely she did enjoy playing games from time to time and she was quite the tease. (gem venus) The first couple times I ignored it because we got along so well, and she wasn't actually doing anything. One night we're out and she does it again with our waiter so I brought up it later that night and I exploded. Mind you, as a kid growing up I used to get black out rage (mars/venus/pluto in Scorpio) but as I started to learn about astrology I began learning about why I did those things, what i had the potential of doing based on my placements and how I could better manage it. So I've become very good at managing my anger and around this time I hadn't blown up in a while. But heres this girl, I genuinely feel like this is one of if not the most unique connections I've ever experienced like we've known each other through multiple multiple life times, and she can't give me the least amount of courtesy. In every other way our relationship was perfect and she let me push through all of her boundaries or as she said she was putty in my hands. But the flirting, I couldn't get over it. I ended up exploding again around Christmas time (I'm HUGE on gift giving) when I got her like 5 gifts, and she got me one. Maybe that's silly to some, but it's one of my languages of love. We didn't talk again until last summer, we picked up again like nothing had happened but I realized that it would be very hard to trust her. I can't have any doubts about your loyalty or it will never work.
In hindsight I think that she was my twin flame our relationship literally checks every box of what a twin flame is. I learned a ton from that relationship and have become way more in tune with myself emotionally.click to expand
The second one I think if it wasn’t for your Scorpio mars it couldve been something really special. And just like gift giving is your language doesn’t mean other people know this. People who are worth it you have to teach them gently ? Btw as a guy though most guys don’t care much about receiving gifts. The relationship and your reactions to her did seem super exploded. Were you Pluto person or was it some double aspects going on?
Posted by six4sixOmg in the way of living normal life ?! Jeez. Give examples lolPosted by stillstillwaterAlso, I've noticed with scorpio sun women. I don't attract them as often as I do Geminis but when I do they have to have me. Like I can literally do nothing at all, and they will move mountains to be with me. I don't how much of that is pluto or just my venus but I find that interesting as well. I once dated a Scorpio sun,merc,venus, pluto, the first couple times we hung out it was really fun and sexy but it got so real so fast. We had to end it because it was getting in the way of living a normal life. lolPosted by six4sixWhy do you think those couple of times the girl had the power? And why you didn't like it?
Well this is interesting. I have both Venus and Pluto in Scorpio and most people my age have Pluto Scorpio. I don’t know enough about how aspects in one chart effect the person in the other but I can say I’m pretty sexually dominant and demanding. If I’m really interested in the girl I will let her know ahead of time because I am going to push her boundaries and introduce her to things she’s probaably never thought of or maybe she has but has never tried. If I don’t see the relationship going anywhere then I just do what I do and she experiences some crazy shit and then we go our separate ways and maybe from time to time I hear from her to relieve some stress.
However, there’s been two times where I’ve felt disempowered by the girl. Like I was giving her the keys to destroy me from the inside and trusting she wouldn’t. That was some scary shit. One of the situations I self sabotaged it because I didn’t like feeling like she had this power over me. The second one we dated for a few years probably should’ve only been one and it was an extremely intense relationship for both sides.
They also had Pluto Scorpio so idk what was different on how it effected the relationship or what other aspects played a role, but it’s an interesting concept that I’ll be more aware of.click to expand
Posted by fishcrabscale2Why is he not right for you on paper or logically?Posted by stillstillwaterI thought id be completely over it by (my timeline)Posted by fishcrabscale2So you moved to a different city to get space but now it's even worse for you?Posted by stillstillwaterYou know it won't go away unless you force yourself out of it ~~ you know i tried it too but doesnt work. Scorpio Pluto-this was my default mode. I was also the one that left that city... but forcing it just turned more painful. So after all the emotional turmoil i created, now im thinking why not just swim, wade deep, indulge myself until it implodesPosted by fishcrabscale2Yeah exactly. You know it won't go away unless you force yourself out of it. It would take a lot of strength.Posted by stillstillwaterI dont know the difference coz im always the Pluto person. It might be better and less intense to be the Venus person?Posted by fishcrabscale2Also do you prefer to be the Venus person?Posted by stillstillwaterI have this aspect too... and im the Pluto person.
We were walking and as a I joke I said, "there's always something between us.First the distance and now the rain! We're like star crossed lovers with always something in between."
He said, "that's what makes it even better."
Like he always knows what to say. I hate that.
Btw he got Moon/Pluto aspect in his natal chart.
Last thursday i was the one who had a dream... this morning he sent me a message that he dreamt about me. The dreams never stop showing even after almost 2yrs that we havent seen each other in flesh.
It is an exhausting connection that never goes.
What did you do about yours?
Also, i found out that im always the pluto person with all the guys i had a thing with ~😰
Also, it doesnt help that a lot of our other aspects are in watery places like our moons and asc
..and wow yours is 4-5 yrs 😰 i just know that it wont go away. Ive tried. And for months im trying the "softer" way to handle it like in your previous post...
So through all of this I learned to be more open and share my feelings despite how much it would hurt. I learned that I just had to do it for me without any hopes or expectations. Just knowing that I'm putting my truth out there. On his last day I actually did tell him that I want to apologize for all the times that I was pushy and I don't want to add stress to his life. I want to be a fond memory. Also clarified that just because we spent those wonderful moments together doesn't mean i have any expectations of him, we can be just friends.
Softer approach also doesn't fuel the extreme emotions in yourself.
Do you think he wants you? May be honesty is the best policy? Like just say your piece and never know where it will go. I do think Pluto/Venus can work. It's getting over the initial fear.
He wants me but i thought not much ~feels not enough. Also, the head vs the heart thing... he got my heart but not my head. My logical mind thinks he is not the right person. When we were still together i dreamed of my late dad saying: "Is this your boyfriend? Look at how he is behaving." ~something similar, in effect: we educated you so you can make better decisions. Maybe it was my critical brain or maybe spirits are real 😶 anyhoo, we both have Venus in Virgo. It just have to be right. In the meantime, im exercising the "soft approach"click to expand
@six4six kind of how I feel about current guy. Like I want to do so much for him for no damn reason. But I don’t want to be some doormat and gotta keep it checked. Bcz if you do that with guys they take you for granted lol
Posted by ImpulsvSo steamy. I wouldn’t even know what something like that looks like.Posted by stillstillwaterPosted by six4sixOmg in the way of living normal life ?! Jeez. Give examples lolPosted by stillstillwaterAlso, I've noticed with scorpio sun women. I don't attract them as often as I do Geminis but when I do they have to have me. Like I can literally do nothing at all, and they will move mountains to be with me. I don't how much of that is pluto or just my venus but I find that interesting as well. I once dated a Scorpio sun,merc,venus, pluto, the first couple times we hung out it was really fun and sexy but it got so real so fast. We had to end it because it was getting in the way of living a normal life. lolPosted by six4sixWhy do you think those couple of times the girl had the power? And why you didn't like it?
Well this is interesting. I have both Venus and Pluto in Scorpio and most people my age have Pluto Scorpio. I don’t know enough about how aspects in one chart effect the person in the other but I can say I’m pretty sexually dominant and demanding. If I’m really interested in the girl I will let her know ahead of time because I am going to push her boundaries and introduce her to things she’s probaably never thought of or maybe she has but has never tried. If I don’t see the relationship going anywhere then I just do what I do and she experiences some crazy shit and then we go our separate ways and maybe from time to time I hear from her to relieve some stress.
However, there’s been two times where I’ve felt disempowered by the girl. Like I was giving her the keys to destroy me from the inside and trusting she wouldn’t. That was some scary shit. One of the situations I self sabotaged it because I didn’t like feeling like she had this power over me. The second one we dated for a few years probably should’ve only been one and it was an extremely intense relationship for both sides.
They also had Pluto Scorpio so idk what was different on how it effected the relationship or what other aspects played a role, but it’s an interesting concept that I’ll be more aware of.
Right sounds like my cousins too good to be true lolclick to expand
Posted by stillstillwaterYea, self sabotage. I get the gift thing, I could've handled it better but it was that tied in with the flirting and in the moment it was kind of like I was questioning if she cared as much as I do. even though when we met up that night she was wearing this low cut shirt and her tits were practically popping out and instead of a hug she greeted me by putting my arm against her throat lol. Deep down I was scared and not ready for a full on committed relationship.Posted by six4sixWell the first relationship you guys were too young to even know what you want regardless of the intensity.Posted by stillstillwaterThanks for reading this, it turned out to be a much longer reply than I thought it would be lolPosted by six4sixWhy do you think those couple of times the girl had the power? And why you didn't like it?
Well this is interesting. I have both Venus and Pluto in Scorpio and most people my age have Pluto Scorpio. I don’t know enough about how aspects in one chart effect the person in the other but I can say I’m pretty sexually dominant and demanding. If I’m really interested in the girl I will let her know ahead of time because I am going to push her boundaries and introduce her to things she’s probaably never thought of or maybe she has but has never tried. If I don’t see the relationship going anywhere then I just do what I do and she experiences some crazy shit and then we go our separate ways and maybe from time to time I hear from her to relieve some stress.
However, there’s been two times where I’ve felt disempowered by the girl. Like I was giving her the keys to destroy me from the inside and trusting she wouldn’t. That was some scary shit. One of the situations I self sabotaged it because I didn’t like feeling like she had this power over me. The second one we dated for a few years probably should’ve only been one and it was an extremely intense relationship for both sides.
They also had Pluto Scorpio so idk what was different on how it effected the relationship or what other aspects played a role, but it’s an interesting concept that I’ll be more aware of.
The first girl it was my first serious relationship. We dated from 17-20, I had no idea about astrology (personally, I think Scorpio Venus can be the BEST placement when understood and used properly, but for a less evolved person, as I was at 17, it's a very heavy placement to have) She was a Aries mar, taurus Venus, I'm a Scorpio mars/venus and there was a lot of back and forth extremes. That relationship had everything, intense fights, passionate love, manipulation, cheating, power plays, everything. Looking back now, it's easy to say that it was a toxic relationship but we were two kids who had no business being in that relationship in the first place and there was so much influence from the environment that we were in that caused a lot of drama and who you are at 17 can be so different than who you are at 20. We stayed in contact for most of the time since breaking up but haven't spoke in a couple years, there's no hard feelings towards each other. We both realized who we were in that relationship isn't a true testament as to who we are as people and although we could never date again, the sexual chemistry was insane and we'll always care about each other because we both saw each other at our lowest points, and go through some really horrible shit that I'm not going to get into here. We know stuff about each other that we've never shared with anyone else and I'm always going to wish the best for her.
The second girl was a different intensity. This was two years ago. When we met we hit it off like crazy. I've never experienced instant chemistry like what we had before. We met at the gym and ended up talking for 4 hours but she wouldn't go home with me I tried more than once lol. We could talk for hours and hours and hours and never get bored. We met around my birthday and she came over one weekend, and payed for everything. Like here's this girl who just met me, payed for lunch, dinner, drinks, parking, like wtf who are you?? And while that was all great and lovely she did enjoy playing games from time to time and she was quite the tease. (gem venus) The first couple times I ignored it because we got along so well, and she wasn't actually doing anything. One night we're out and she does it again with our waiter so I brought up it later that night and I exploded. Mind you, as a kid growing up I used to get black out rage (mars/venus/pluto in Scorpio) but as I started to learn about astrology I began learning about why I did those things, what i had the potential of doing based on my placements and how I could better manage it. So I've become very good at managing my anger and around this time I hadn't blown up in a while. But heres this girl, I genuinely feel like this is one of if not the most unique connections I've ever experienced like we've known each other through multiple multiple life times, and she can't give me the least amount of courtesy. In every other way our relationship was perfect and she let me push through all of her boundaries or as she said she was putty in my hands. But the flirting, I couldn't get over it. I ended up exploding again around Christmas time (I'm HUGE on gift giving) when I got her like 5 gifts, and she got me one. Maybe that's silly to some, but it's one of my languages of love. We didn't talk again until last summer, we picked up again like nothing had happened but I realized that it would be very hard to trust her. I can't have any doubts about your loyalty or it will never work.
In hindsight I think that she was my twin flame our relationship literally checks every box of what a twin flame is. I learned a ton from that relationship and have become way more in tune with myself emotionally.
The second one I think if it wasn’t for your Scorpio mars it couldve been something really special. And just like gift giving is your language doesn’t mean other people know this. People who are worth it you have to teach them gently ? Btw as a guy though most guys don’t care much about receiving gifts. The relationship and your reactions to her did seem super exploded. Were you Pluto person or was it some double aspects going on?click to expand
Posted by stillstillwaterWe both had pluto Scorpio she didn't have any other score in her chart. she was gem sun, pisces moon, cancer mercury mars and the gem venus. I don't her houses because I didn't know her time of birth. I've kinda of skimmed over all the responses here, is it usually the pluto person or the venus person that has the upper hand?Posted by six4sixWere you Pluto person or was it some double aspects going on?Posted by stillstillwaterThanks for reading this, it turned out to be a much longer reply than I thought it would be lolPosted by six4sixWhy do you think those couple of times the girl had the power? And why you didn't like it?
Well this is interesting. I have both Venus and Pluto in Scorpio and most people my age have Pluto Scorpio. I don’t know enough about how aspects in one chart effect the person in the other but I can say I’m pretty sexually dominant and demanding. If I’m really interested in the girl I will let her know ahead of time because I am going to push her boundaries and introduce her to things she’s probaably never thought of or maybe she has but has never tried. If I don’t see the relationship going anywhere then I just do what I do and she experiences some crazy shit and then we go our separate ways and maybe from time to time I hear from her to relieve some stress.
However, there’s been two times where I’ve felt disempowered by the girl. Like I was giving her the keys to destroy me from the inside and trusting she wouldn’t. That was some scary shit. One of the situations I self sabotaged it because I didn’t like feeling like she had this power over me. The second one we dated for a few years probably should’ve only been one and it was an extremely intense relationship for both sides.
They also had Pluto Scorpio so idk what was different on how it effected the relationship or what other aspects played a role, but it’s an interesting concept that I’ll be more aware of.
The first girl it was my first serious relationship. We dated from 17-20, I had no idea about astrology (personally, I think Scorpio Venus can be the BEST placement when understood and used properly, but for a less evolved person, as I was at 17, it's a very heavy placement to have) She was a Aries mar, taurus Venus, I'm a Scorpio mars/venus and there was a lot of back and forth extremes. That relationship had everything, intense fights, passionate love, manipulation, cheating, power plays, everything. Looking back now, it's easy to say that it was a toxic relationship but we were two kids who had no business being in that relationship in the first place and there was so much influence from the environment that we were in that caused a lot of drama and who you are at 17 can be so different than who you are at 20. We stayed in contact for most of the time since breaking up but haven't spoke in a couple years, there's no hard feelings towards each other. We both realized who we were in that relationship isn't a true testament as to who we are as people and although we could never date again, the sexual chemistry was insane and we'll always care about each other because we both saw each other at our lowest points, and go through some really horrible shit that I'm not going to get into here. We know stuff about each other that we've never shared with anyone else and I'm always going to wish the best for her.
The second girl was a different intensity. This was two years ago. When we met we hit it off like crazy. I've never experienced instant chemistry like what we had before. We met at the gym and ended up talking for 4 hours but she wouldn't go home with me I tried more than once lol. We could talk for hours and hours and hours and never get bored. We met around my birthday and she came over one weekend, and payed for everything. Like here's this girl who just met me, payed for lunch, dinner, drinks, parking, like wtf who are you?? And while that was all great and lovely she did enjoy playing games from time to time and she was quite the tease. (gem venus) The first couple times I ignored it because we got along so well, and she wasn't actually doing anything. One night we're out and she does it again with our waiter so I brought up it later that night and I exploded. Mind you, as a kid growing up I used to get black out rage (mars/venus/pluto in Scorpio) but as I started to learn about astrology I began learning about why I did those things, what i had the potential of doing based on my placements and how I could better manage it. So I've become very good at managing my anger and around this time I hadn't blown up in a while. But heres this girl, I genuinely feel like this is one of if not the most unique connections I've ever experienced like we've known each other through multiple multiple life times, and she can't give me the least amount of courtesy. In every other way our relationship was perfect and she let me push through all of her boundaries or as she said she was putty in my hands. But the flirting, I couldn't get over it. I ended up exploding again around Christmas time (I'm HUGE on gift giving) when I got her like 5 gifts, and she got me one. Maybe that's silly to some, but it's one of my languages of love. We didn't talk again until last summer, we picked up again like nothing had happened but I realized that it would be very hard to trust her. I can't have any doubts about your loyalty or it will never work.
In hindsight I think that she was my twin flame our relationship literally checks every box of what a twin flame is. I learned a ton from that relationship and have become way more in tune with myself emotionally.click to expand
Posted by stillstillwaterHaha. All we wanted to was be with eachother and devour eachother. We had no interest in hanging with friends, going to the gym, we would call in sick to work, skip class. Over time, everyonce in a while that’s okay, but it was immediate and all the time. We spend hours a day in bed, fuck, eat, tv, fuck, sleep, eat, fuck, go out for a little while, okay no one is watching, quickie, go back home, fuck, shower, quickie. We got one of those 500 sex positions books and tried a ton of them just because. If we weren’t together, all I was thinking about was getting back to her to rip her clothes off and eat her whole body. It was really fun in the short term but it wasn’t going to work.Posted by ImpulsvSo steamy. I wouldn’t even know what something like that looks like.Posted by stillstillwaterPosted by six4sixOmg in the way of living normal life ?! Jeez. Give examples lolPosted by stillstillwaterAlso, I've noticed with scorpio sun women. I don't attract them as often as I do Geminis but when I do they have to have me. Like I can literally do nothing at all, and they will move mountains to be with me. I don't how much of that is pluto or just my venus but I find that interesting as well. I once dated a Scorpio sun,merc,venus, pluto, the first couple times we hung out it was really fun and sexy but it got so real so fast. We had to end it because it was getting in the way of living a normal life. lolPosted by six4sixWhy do you think those couple of times the girl had the power? And why you didn't like it?
Well this is interesting. I have both Venus and Pluto in Scorpio and most people my age have Pluto Scorpio. I don’t know enough about how aspects in one chart effect the person in the other but I can say I’m pretty sexually dominant and demanding. If I’m really interested in the girl I will let her know ahead of time because I am going to push her boundaries and introduce her to things she’s probaably never thought of or maybe she has but has never tried. If I don’t see the relationship going anywhere then I just do what I do and she experiences some crazy shit and then we go our separate ways and maybe from time to time I hear from her to relieve some stress.
However, there’s been two times where I’ve felt disempowered by the girl. Like I was giving her the keys to destroy me from the inside and trusting she wouldn’t. That was some scary shit. One of the situations I self sabotaged it because I didn’t like feeling like she had this power over me. The second one we dated for a few years probably should’ve only been one and it was an extremely intense relationship for both sides.
They also had Pluto Scorpio so idk what was different on how it effected the relationship or what other aspects played a role, but it’s an interesting concept that I’ll be more aware of.
Right sounds like my cousins too good to be true lolclick to expand
Posted by six4sixWell that’s what astrology articles say. But from my experience you know you’re Pluto when you put too much weight on minuscule details. Like everything feels do or die. You’re not really in power but you’re the one pushing the boundaries.Posted by stillstillwaterWe both had pluto Scorpio she didn't have any other score in her chart. she was gem sun, pisces moon, cancer mercury mars and the gem venus. I don't her houses because I didn't know her time of birth. I've kinda of skimmed over all the responses here, is it usually the pluto person or the venus person that has the upper hand?Posted by six4sixWere you Pluto person or was it some double aspects going on?Posted by stillstillwaterThanks for reading this, it turned out to be a much longer reply than I thought it would be lolPosted by six4sixWhy do you think those couple of times the girl had the power? And why you didn't like it?
Well this is interesting. I have both Venus and Pluto in Scorpio and most people my age have Pluto Scorpio. I don’t know enough about how aspects in one chart effect the person in the other but I can say I’m pretty sexually dominant and demanding. If I’m really interested in the girl I will let her know ahead of time because I am going to push her boundaries and introduce her to things she’s probaably never thought of or maybe she has but has never tried. If I don’t see the relationship going anywhere then I just do what I do and she experiences some crazy shit and then we go our separate ways and maybe from time to time I hear from her to relieve some stress.
However, there’s been two times where I’ve felt disempowered by the girl. Like I was giving her the keys to destroy me from the inside and trusting she wouldn’t. That was some scary shit. One of the situations I self sabotaged it because I didn’t like feeling like she had this power over me. The second one we dated for a few years probably should’ve only been one and it was an extremely intense relationship for both sides.
They also had Pluto Scorpio so idk what was different on how it effected the relationship or what other aspects played a role, but it’s an interesting concept that I’ll be more aware of.
The first girl it was my first serious relationship. We dated from 17-20, I had no idea about astrology (personally, I think Scorpio Venus can be the BEST placement when understood and used properly, but for a less evolved person, as I was at 17, it's a very heavy placement to have) She was a Aries mar, taurus Venus, I'm a Scorpio mars/venus and there was a lot of back and forth extremes. That relationship had everything, intense fights, passionate love, manipulation, cheating, power plays, everything. Looking back now, it's easy to say that it was a toxic relationship but we were two kids who had no business being in that relationship in the first place and there was so much influence from the environment that we were in that caused a lot of drama and who you are at 17 can be so different than who you are at 20. We stayed in contact for most of the time since breaking up but haven't spoke in a couple years, there's no hard feelings towards each other. We both realized who we were in that relationship isn't a true testament as to who we are as people and although we could never date again, the sexual chemistry was insane and we'll always care about each other because we both saw each other at our lowest points, and go through some really horrible shit that I'm not going to get into here. We know stuff about each other that we've never shared with anyone else and I'm always going to wish the best for her.
The second girl was a different intensity. This was two years ago. When we met we hit it off like crazy. I've never experienced instant chemistry like what we had before. We met at the gym and ended up talking for 4 hours but she wouldn't go home with me I tried more than once lol. We could talk for hours and hours and hours and never get bored. We met around my birthday and she came over one weekend, and payed for everything. Like here's this girl who just met me, payed for lunch, dinner, drinks, parking, like wtf who are you?? And while that was all great and lovely she did enjoy playing games from time to time and she was quite the tease. (gem venus) The first couple times I ignored it because we got along so well, and she wasn't actually doing anything. One night we're out and she does it again with our waiter so I brought up it later that night and I exploded. Mind you, as a kid growing up I used to get black out rage (mars/venus/pluto in Scorpio) but as I started to learn about astrology I began learning about why I did those things, what i had the potential of doing based on my placements and how I could better manage it. So I've become very good at managing my anger and around this time I hadn't blown up in a while. But heres this girl, I genuinely feel like this is one of if not the most unique connections I've ever experienced like we've known each other through multiple multiple life times, and she can't give me the least amount of courtesy. In every other way our relationship was perfect and she let me push through all of her boundaries or as she said she was putty in my hands. But the flirting, I couldn't get over it. I ended up exploding again around Christmas time (I'm HUGE on gift giving) when I got her like 5 gifts, and she got me one. Maybe that's silly to some, but it's one of my languages of love. We didn't talk again until last summer, we picked up again like nothing had happened but I realized that it would be very hard to trust her. I can't have any doubts about your loyalty or it will never work.
In hindsight I think that she was my twin flame our relationship literally checks every box of what a twin flame is. I learned a ton from that relationship and have become way more in tune with myself emotionally.click to expand
Venus is more on the receptive end and they’re more lighthearted but they say some things that are deep that impacts you a lot. They normally retreat vs exploding (like the Pluto).
Posted by six4sixWhoa holy shit !!! That is hot but for a bit or on the weekends haha. All the time would be suffocating to a degree because yeah you want to have a normal life. I guess it is true “too much of a good thing “ does exist.Posted by stillstillwaterHaha. All we wanted to was be with eachother and devour eachother. We had no interest in hanging with friends, going to the gym, we would call in sick to work, skip class. Over time, everyonce in a while that’s okay, but it was immediate and all the time. We spend hours a day in bed, fuck, eat, tv, fuck, sleep, eat, fuck, go out for a little while, okay no one is watching, quickie, go back home, fuck, shower, quickie. We got one of those 500 sex positions books and tried a ton of them just because. If we weren’t together, all I was thinking about was getting back to her to rip her clothes off and eat her whole body. It was really fun in the short term but it wasn’t going to work.Posted by ImpulsvSo steamy. I wouldn’t even know what something like that looks like.Posted by stillstillwaterPosted by six4sixOmg in the way of living normal life ?! Jeez. Give examples lolPosted by stillstillwaterAlso, I've noticed with scorpio sun women. I don't attract them as often as I do Geminis but when I do they have to have me. Like I can literally do nothing at all, and they will move mountains to be with me. I don't how much of that is pluto or just my venus but I find that interesting as well. I once dated a Scorpio sun,merc,venus, pluto, the first couple times we hung out it was really fun and sexy but it got so real so fast. We had to end it because it was getting in the way of living a normal life. lolPosted by six4sixWhy do you think those couple of times the girl had the power? And why you didn't like it?
Well this is interesting. I have both Venus and Pluto in Scorpio and most people my age have Pluto Scorpio. I don’t know enough about how aspects in one chart effect the person in the other but I can say I’m pretty sexually dominant and demanding. If I’m really interested in the girl I will let her know ahead of time because I am going to push her boundaries and introduce her to things she’s probaably never thought of or maybe she has but has never tried. If I don’t see the relationship going anywhere then I just do what I do and she experiences some crazy shit and then we go our separate ways and maybe from time to time I hear from her to relieve some stress.
However, there’s been two times where I’ve felt disempowered by the girl. Like I was giving her the keys to destroy me from the inside and trusting she wouldn’t. That was some scary shit. One of the situations I self sabotaged it because I didn’t like feeling like she had this power over me. The second one we dated for a few years probably should’ve only been one and it was an extremely intense relationship for both sides.
They also had Pluto Scorpio so idk what was different on how it effected the relationship or what other aspects played a role, but it’s an interesting concept that I’ll be more aware of.
Right sounds like my cousins too good to be true lolclick to expand
I’m lucky right now bcz we have a lot of mars/merc aspects that kind of balance that raw energy and can are doing other things together as just as enjoyable as sex.
Posted by stillstillwaterOhhh so I think I'm in that situation right now. So how can I, the venus, make things a little easier for my pluto girl. So she doesn't feel like she's in do or die situations or hanging on every word like everything I say will determine the entire fate of whether we are good together. I'm being a little dramatic but still. Like what kind of things could I say that would cut deep to a pluto?Posted by six4sixWell that’s what astrology articles say. But from my experience you know you’re Pluto when you put too much weight on minuscule details. Like everything feels do or die. You’re not really in power but you’re the one pushing the boundaries.Posted by stillstillwaterWe both had pluto Scorpio she didn't have any other score in her chart. she was gem sun, pisces moon, cancer mercury mars and the gem venus. I don't her houses because I didn't know her time of birth. I've kinda of skimmed over all the responses here, is it usually the pluto person or the venus person that has the upper hand?Posted by six4sixWere you Pluto person or was it some double aspects going on?Posted by stillstillwaterThanks for reading this, it turned out to be a much longer reply than I thought it would be lolPosted by six4sixWhy do you think those couple of times the girl had the power? And why you didn't like it?
Well this is interesting. I have both Venus and Pluto in Scorpio and most people my age have Pluto Scorpio. I don’t know enough about how aspects in one chart effect the person in the other but I can say I’m pretty sexually dominant and demanding. If I’m really interested in the girl I will let her know ahead of time because I am going to push her boundaries and introduce her to things she’s probaably never thought of or maybe she has but has never tried. If I don’t see the relationship going anywhere then I just do what I do and she experiences some crazy shit and then we go our separate ways and maybe from time to time I hear from her to relieve some stress.
However, there’s been two times where I’ve felt disempowered by the girl. Like I was giving her the keys to destroy me from the inside and trusting she wouldn’t. That was some scary shit. One of the situations I self sabotaged it because I didn’t like feeling like she had this power over me. The second one we dated for a few years probably should’ve only been one and it was an extremely intense relationship for both sides.
They also had Pluto Scorpio so idk what was different on how it effected the relationship or what other aspects played a role, but it’s an interesting concept that I’ll be more aware of.
The first girl it was my first serious relationship. We dated from 17-20, I had no idea about astrology (personally, I think Scorpio Venus can be the BEST placement when understood and used properly, but for a less evolved person, as I was at 17, it's a very heavy placement to have) She was a Aries mar, taurus Venus, I'm a Scorpio mars/venus and there was a lot of back and forth extremes. That relationship had everything, intense fights, passionate love, manipulation, cheating, power plays, everything. Looking back now, it's easy to say that it was a toxic relationship but we were two kids who had no business being in that relationship in the first place and there was so much influence from the environment that we were in that caused a lot of drama and who you are at 17 can be so different than who you are at 20. We stayed in contact for most of the time since breaking up but haven't spoke in a couple years, there's no hard feelings towards each other. We both realized who we were in that relationship isn't a true testament as to who we are as people and although we could never date again, the sexual chemistry was insane and we'll always care about each other because we both saw each other at our lowest points, and go through some really horrible shit that I'm not going to get into here. We know stuff about each other that we've never shared with anyone else and I'm always going to wish the best for her.
The second girl was a different intensity. This was two years ago. When we met we hit it off like crazy. I've never experienced instant chemistry like what we had before. We met at the gym and ended up talking for 4 hours but she wouldn't go home with me I tried more than once lol. We could talk for hours and hours and hours and never get bored. We met around my birthday and she came over one weekend, and payed for everything. Like here's this girl who just met me, payed for lunch, dinner, drinks, parking, like wtf who are you?? And while that was all great and lovely she did enjoy playing games from time to time and she was quite the tease. (gem venus) The first couple times I ignored it because we got along so well, and she wasn't actually doing anything. One night we're out and she does it again with our waiter so I brought up it later that night and I exploded. Mind you, as a kid growing up I used to get black out rage (mars/venus/pluto in Scorpio) but as I started to learn about astrology I began learning about why I did those things, what i had the potential of doing based on my placements and how I could better manage it. So I've become very good at managing my anger and around this time I hadn't blown up in a while. But heres this girl, I genuinely feel like this is one of if not the most unique connections I've ever experienced like we've known each other through multiple multiple life times, and she can't give me the least amount of courtesy. In every other way our relationship was perfect and she let me push through all of her boundaries or as she said she was putty in my hands. But the flirting, I couldn't get over it. I ended up exploding again around Christmas time (I'm HUGE on gift giving) when I got her like 5 gifts, and she got me one. Maybe that's silly to some, but it's one of my languages of love. We didn't talk again until last summer, we picked up again like nothing had happened but I realized that it would be very hard to trust her. I can't have any doubts about your loyalty or it will never work.
In hindsight I think that she was my twin flame our relationship literally checks every box of what a twin flame is. I learned a ton from that relationship and have become way more in tune with myself emotionally.
Venus is more on the receptive end and they’re more lighthearted but they say some things that are deep that impacts you a lot. They normally retreat vs exploding (like the Pluto).click to expand
^^^ to avoid saying them lol
Posted by stillstillwaterExactly! A weekend every now and then like that is good. But it was too much. We didn't do any couple actives we didn't think about working out together. We were starting to head into finals and we said, oh shit, we need to pass our classes lol. Then summer came which was the break we needed to cool way down.Posted by six4sixWhoa holy shit !!! That is hot but for a bit or on the weekends haha. All the time would be suffocating to a degree because yeah you want to have a normal life. I guess it is true “too much of a good thing “ does exist.Posted by stillstillwaterHaha. All we wanted to was be with eachother and devour eachother. We had no interest in hanging with friends, going to the gym, we would call in sick to work, skip class. Over time, everyonce in a while that’s okay, but it was immediate and all the time. We spend hours a day in bed, fuck, eat, tv, fuck, sleep, eat, fuck, go out for a little while, okay no one is watching, quickie, go back home, fuck, shower, quickie. We got one of those 500 sex positions books and tried a ton of them just because. If we weren’t together, all I was thinking about was getting back to her to rip her clothes off and eat her whole body. It was really fun in the short term but it wasn’t going to work.Posted by ImpulsvSo steamy. I wouldn’t even know what something like that looks like.Posted by stillstillwaterPosted by six4sixOmg in the way of living normal life ?! Jeez. Give examples lolPosted by stillstillwaterAlso, I've noticed with scorpio sun women. I don't attract them as often as I do Geminis but when I do they have to have me. Like I can literally do nothing at all, and they will move mountains to be with me. I don't how much of that is pluto or just my venus but I find that interesting as well. I once dated a Scorpio sun,merc,venus, pluto, the first couple times we hung out it was really fun and sexy but it got so real so fast. We had to end it because it was getting in the way of living a normal life. lolPosted by six4sixWhy do you think those couple of times the girl had the power? And why you didn't like it?
Well this is interesting. I have both Venus and Pluto in Scorpio and most people my age have Pluto Scorpio. I don’t know enough about how aspects in one chart effect the person in the other but I can say I’m pretty sexually dominant and demanding. If I’m really interested in the girl I will let her know ahead of time because I am going to push her boundaries and introduce her to things she’s probaably never thought of or maybe she has but has never tried. If I don’t see the relationship going anywhere then I just do what I do and she experiences some crazy shit and then we go our separate ways and maybe from time to time I hear from her to relieve some stress.
However, there’s been two times where I’ve felt disempowered by the girl. Like I was giving her the keys to destroy me from the inside and trusting she wouldn’t. That was some scary shit. One of the situations I self sabotaged it because I didn’t like feeling like she had this power over me. The second one we dated for a few years probably should’ve only been one and it was an extremely intense relationship for both sides.
They also had Pluto Scorpio so idk what was different on how it effected the relationship or what other aspects played a role, but it’s an interesting concept that I’ll be more aware of.
Right sounds like my cousins too good to be true lol
I’m lucky right now bcz we have a lot of mars/merc aspects that kind of balance that raw energy and can are doing other things together as just as enjoyable as sex.click to expand
How does mercury/mars play a role in that? Damn I have so much to learn
Posted by six4sixBiggest thing is respect & consideration (of course all relationships but more so in this aspect). So:Posted by stillstillwaterOhhh so I think I'm in that situation right now. So how can I, the venus, make things a little easier for my pluto girl. So she doesn't feel like she's in do or die situations or hanging on every word like everything I say will determine the entire fate of whether we are good together. I'm being a little dramatic but still. Like what kind of things could I say that would cut deep to a pluto?Posted by six4sixWell that’s what astrology articles say. But from my experience you know you’re Pluto when you put too much weight on minuscule details. Like everything feels do or die. You’re not really in power but you’re the one pushing the boundaries.Posted by stillstillwaterWe both had pluto Scorpio she didn't have any other score in her chart. she was gem sun, pisces moon, cancer mercury mars and the gem venus. I don't her houses because I didn't know her time of birth. I've kinda of skimmed over all the responses here, is it usually the pluto person or the venus person that has the upper hand?Posted by six4sixWere you Pluto person or was it some double aspects going on?Posted by stillstillwaterThanks for reading this, it turned out to be a much longer reply than I thought it would be lolPosted by six4sixWhy do you think those couple of times the girl had the power? And why you didn't like it?
Well this is interesting. I have both Venus and Pluto in Scorpio and most people my age have Pluto Scorpio. I don’t know enough about how aspects in one chart effect the person in the other but I can say I’m pretty sexually dominant and demanding. If I’m really interested in the girl I will let her know ahead of time because I am going to push her boundaries and introduce her to things she’s probaably never thought of or maybe she has but has never tried. If I don’t see the relationship going anywhere then I just do what I do and she experiences some crazy shit and then we go our separate ways and maybe from time to time I hear from her to relieve some stress.
However, there’s been two times where I’ve felt disempowered by the girl. Like I was giving her the keys to destroy me from the inside and trusting she wouldn’t. That was some scary shit. One of the situations I self sabotaged it because I didn’t like feeling like she had this power over me. The second one we dated for a few years probably should’ve only been one and it was an extremely intense relationship for both sides.
They also had Pluto Scorpio so idk what was different on how it effected the relationship or what other aspects played a role, but it’s an interesting concept that I’ll be more aware of.
The first girl it was my first serious relationship. We dated from 17-20, I had no idea about astrology (personally, I think Scorpio Venus can be the BEST placement when understood and used properly, but for a less evolved person, as I was at 17, it's a very heavy placement to have) She was a Aries mar, taurus Venus, I'm a Scorpio mars/venus and there was a lot of back and forth extremes. That relationship had everything, intense fights, passionate love, manipulation, cheating, power plays, everything. Looking back now, it's easy to say that it was a toxic relationship but we were two kids who had no business being in that relationship in the first place and there was so much influence from the environment that we were in that caused a lot of drama and who you are at 17 can be so different than who you are at 20. We stayed in contact for most of the time since breaking up but haven't spoke in a couple years, there's no hard feelings towards each other. We both realized who we were in that relationship isn't a true testament as to who we are as people and although we could never date again, the sexual chemistry was insane and we'll always care about each other because we both saw each other at our lowest points, and go through some really horrible shit that I'm not going to get into here. We know stuff about each other that we've never shared with anyone else and I'm always going to wish the best for her.
The second girl was a different intensity. This was two years ago. When we met we hit it off like crazy. I've never experienced instant chemistry like what we had before. We met at the gym and ended up talking for 4 hours but she wouldn't go home with me I tried more than once lol. We could talk for hours and hours and hours and never get bored. We met around my birthday and she came over one weekend, and payed for everything. Like here's this girl who just met me, payed for lunch, dinner, drinks, parking, like wtf who are you?? And while that was all great and lovely she did enjoy playing games from time to time and she was quite the tease. (gem venus) The first couple times I ignored it because we got along so well, and she wasn't actually doing anything. One night we're out and she does it again with our waiter so I brought up it later that night and I exploded. Mind you, as a kid growing up I used to get black out rage (mars/venus/pluto in Scorpio) but as I started to learn about astrology I began learning about why I did those things, what i had the potential of doing based on my placements and how I could better manage it. So I've become very good at managing my anger and around this time I hadn't blown up in a while. But heres this girl, I genuinely feel like this is one of if not the most unique connections I've ever experienced like we've known each other through multiple multiple life times, and she can't give me the least amount of courtesy. In every other way our relationship was perfect and she let me push through all of her boundaries or as she said she was putty in my hands. But the flirting, I couldn't get over it. I ended up exploding again around Christmas time (I'm HUGE on gift giving) when I got her like 5 gifts, and she got me one. Maybe that's silly to some, but it's one of my languages of love. We didn't talk again until last summer, we picked up again like nothing had happened but I realized that it would be very hard to trust her. I can't have any doubts about your loyalty or it will never work.
In hindsight I think that she was my twin flame our relationship literally checks every box of what a twin flame is. I learned a ton from that relationship and have become way more in tune with myself emotionally.
Venus is more on the receptive end and they’re more lighthearted but they say some things that are deep that impacts you a lot. They normally retreat vs exploding (like the Pluto).click to expand
1) Don't ignore her attempts to contact you
2) Try to communicate your intentions as best as possible
3) If she ever gets explosive or dramatic like "you don't care" type of vibe, then going on the softer side and reassuring helps a lot. May be reminding of the ways that the things are good and that you do care
4) Don't wait for her ot initiate, if you want something go for it too
Do you think the list above helps?
Posted by six4sixIm probably not the best person to ask astro questions in DXP. I just look at aspects and make relations based on my own experiences.Posted by stillstillwaterExactly! A weekend every now and then like that is good. But it was too much. We didn't do any couple actives we didn't think about working out together. We were starting to head into finals and we said, oh shit, we need to pass our classes lol. Then summer came which was the break we needed to cool way down.Posted by six4sixWhoa holy shit !!! That is hot but for a bit or on the weekends haha. All the time would be suffocating to a degree because yeah you want to have a normal life. I guess it is true “too much of a good thing “ does exist.Posted by stillstillwaterHaha. All we wanted to was be with eachother and devour eachother. We had no interest in hanging with friends, going to the gym, we would call in sick to work, skip class. Over time, everyonce in a while that’s okay, but it was immediate and all the time. We spend hours a day in bed, fuck, eat, tv, fuck, sleep, eat, fuck, go out for a little while, okay no one is watching, quickie, go back home, fuck, shower, quickie. We got one of those 500 sex positions books and tried a ton of them just because. If we weren’t together, all I was thinking about was getting back to her to rip her clothes off and eat her whole body. It was really fun in the short term but it wasn’t going to work.Posted by ImpulsvSo steamy. I wouldn’t even know what something like that looks like.Posted by stillstillwaterPosted by six4sixOmg in the way of living normal life ?! Jeez. Give examples lolPosted by stillstillwaterAlso, I've noticed with scorpio sun women. I don't attract them as often as I do Geminis but when I do they have to have me. Like I can literally do nothing at all, and they will move mountains to be with me. I don't how much of that is pluto or just my venus but I find that interesting as well. I once dated a Scorpio sun,merc,venus, pluto, the first couple times we hung out it was really fun and sexy but it got so real so fast. We had to end it because it was getting in the way of living a normal life. lolPosted by six4sixWhy do you think those couple of times the girl had the power? And why you didn't like it?
Well this is interesting. I have both Venus and Pluto in Scorpio and most people my age have Pluto Scorpio. I don’t know enough about how aspects in one chart effect the person in the other but I can say I’m pretty sexually dominant and demanding. If I’m really interested in the girl I will let her know ahead of time because I am going to push her boundaries and introduce her to things she’s probaably never thought of or maybe she has but has never tried. If I don’t see the relationship going anywhere then I just do what I do and she experiences some crazy shit and then we go our separate ways and maybe from time to time I hear from her to relieve some stress.
However, there’s been two times where I’ve felt disempowered by the girl. Like I was giving her the keys to destroy me from the inside and trusting she wouldn’t. That was some scary shit. One of the situations I self sabotaged it because I didn’t like feeling like she had this power over me. The second one we dated for a few years probably should’ve only been one and it was an extremely intense relationship for both sides.
They also had Pluto Scorpio so idk what was different on how it effected the relationship or what other aspects played a role, but it’s an interesting concept that I’ll be more aware of.
Right sounds like my cousins too good to be true lol
I’m lucky right now bcz we have a lot of mars/merc aspects that kind of balance that raw energy and can are doing other things together as just as enjoyable as sex.
How does mercury/mars play a role in that? Damn I have so much to learnclick to expand
For for merc aspects it means communication. So if you like to communicate with each other that takes pressure away from always being physical. Mars is about action. I use this website called: grupovenus.com and their Compatibility for Lovers. I've found that it was always very accurate for me so here are some aspects and descriptions:
Mercury Mutually Aspects Mars
A dynamic, aggressive exchange of ideas, planning, and decision-making is such a strong part of your relationship that you will either become rivals or partners - you cannot maintain an indifferent attitude to someone that challenges and stimulates your ideas so strongly. If you are unable to successfully blend ideas and constructively help each other, you will end up in heated arguments and disagreements. If you are able to coordinate and harmonize your ideas, you will study, research, invent, plan, and write together very successfully.
F's Mercury trine J's Sun orb 2° 49'
The mental rapport that you two share is a big reason why you enjoy each other's company and are good friends. Communication is open and harmonious. You work together very well on practical affairs, daily chores, problem-solving, and business activities.
F's Mercury trine J's Mercury orb 0° 12'
You solve problems and think about issues with a similar perspective and you are able to communicate clearly to each other. You enjoy talking to each other, sharing ideas, and learning from each other, and you are able to plan, design, and develop ideas jointly in a very successful manner.
F's Mercury trine J's Mars orb 0° 47'
You inspire each other to refine and clarify your ideas, plans and strategies. You are an effective team in research, writing, or business pursuits. You also help each other to successfully implement a plan or follow through on an idea until it manifests as a successful product or creative work. You also have spirited, feisty debates with one another.
F's Mars sextile J's Sun orb 1° 50'
You work together very well on projects, and you make an excellent partnership in any joint venture, sport, or business activity. Sexual attraction is also very strong.
F's Mars sextile J's Mercury orb 0° 46'
Your conversations are invariably stimulating and challenging. You share ideas openly and candidly with each other, but fortunately are able to do so without insulting or attacking each other. You can work together very effectively in research, writing, and business pursuits. You work together very effectively in developing and implementing ideas in virtually any area of mutual interest.
F's Mars sextile J's Mars orb 0° 11'
You are able to work together very harmoniously and complement each other's efforts. You coordinate well on tackling daily chores and you are able to accomplish a great deal in almost any joint effort.
See...lots of merc and mars means communication and doing things together.
Posted by stillstillwaterThis helps a lot, both of your posts do. Thanks fore thesePosted by six4sixBiggest thing is respect & consideration (of course all relationships but more so in this aspect). So:Posted by stillstillwaterOhhh so I think I'm in that situation right now. So how can I, the venus, make things a little easier for my pluto girl. So she doesn't feel like she's in do or die situations or hanging on every word like everything I say will determine the entire fate of whether we are good together. I'm being a little dramatic but still. Like what kind of things could I say that would cut deep to a pluto?Posted by six4sixWell that’s what astrology articles say. But from my experience you know you’re Pluto when you put too much weight on minuscule details. Like everything feels do or die. You’re not really in power but you’re the one pushing the boundaries.Posted by stillstillwaterWe both had pluto Scorpio she didn't have any other score in her chart. she was gem sun, pisces moon, cancer mercury mars and the gem venus. I don't her houses because I didn't know her time of birth. I've kinda of skimmed over all the responses here, is it usually the pluto person or the venus person that has the upper hand?Posted by six4sixWere you Pluto person or was it some double aspects going on?Posted by stillstillwaterThanks for reading this, it turned out to be a much longer reply than I thought it would be lolPosted by six4sixWhy do you think those couple of times the girl had the power? And why you didn't like it?
Well this is interesting. I have both Venus and Pluto in Scorpio and most people my age have Pluto Scorpio. I don’t know enough about how aspects in one chart effect the person in the other but I can say I’m pretty sexually dominant and demanding. If I’m really interested in the girl I will let her know ahead of time because I am going to push her boundaries and introduce her to things she’s probaably never thought of or maybe she has but has never tried. If I don’t see the relationship going anywhere then I just do what I do and she experiences some crazy shit and then we go our separate ways and maybe from time to time I hear from her to relieve some stress.
However, there’s been two times where I’ve felt disempowered by the girl. Like I was giving her the keys to destroy me from the inside and trusting she wouldn’t. That was some scary shit. One of the situations I self sabotaged it because I didn’t like feeling like she had this power over me. The second one we dated for a few years probably should’ve only been one and it was an extremely intense relationship for both sides.
They also had Pluto Scorpio so idk what was different on how it effected the relationship or what other aspects played a role, but it’s an interesting concept that I’ll be more aware of.
The first girl it was my first serious relationship. We dated from 17-20, I had no idea about astrology (personally, I think Scorpio Venus can be the BEST placement when understood and used properly, but for a less evolved person, as I was at 17, it's a very heavy placement to have) She was a Aries mar, taurus Venus, I'm a Scorpio mars/venus and there was a lot of back and forth extremes. That relationship had everything, intense fights, passionate love, manipulation, cheating, power plays, everything. Looking back now, it's easy to say that it was a toxic relationship but we were two kids who had no business being in that relationship in the first place and there was so much influence from the environment that we were in that caused a lot of drama and who you are at 17 can be so different than who you are at 20. We stayed in contact for most of the time since breaking up but haven't spoke in a couple years, there's no hard feelings towards each other. We both realized who we were in that relationship isn't a true testament as to who we are as people and although we could never date again, the sexual chemistry was insane and we'll always care about each other because we both saw each other at our lowest points, and go through some really horrible shit that I'm not going to get into here. We know stuff about each other that we've never shared with anyone else and I'm always going to wish the best for her.
The second girl was a different intensity. This was two years ago. When we met we hit it off like crazy. I've never experienced instant chemistry like what we had before. We met at the gym and ended up talking for 4 hours but she wouldn't go home with me I tried more than once lol. We could talk for hours and hours and hours and never get bored. We met around my birthday and she came over one weekend, and payed for everything. Like here's this girl who just met me, payed for lunch, dinner, drinks, parking, like wtf who are you?? And while that was all great and lovely she did enjoy playing games from time to time and she was quite the tease. (gem venus) The first couple times I ignored it because we got along so well, and she wasn't actually doing anything. One night we're out and she does it again with our waiter so I brought up it later that night and I exploded. Mind you, as a kid growing up I used to get black out rage (mars/venus/pluto in Scorpio) but as I started to learn about astrology I began learning about why I did those things, what i had the potential of doing based on my placements and how I could better manage it. So I've become very good at managing my anger and around this time I hadn't blown up in a while. But heres this girl, I genuinely feel like this is one of if not the most unique connections I've ever experienced like we've known each other through multiple multiple life times, and she can't give me the least amount of courtesy. In every other way our relationship was perfect and she let me push through all of her boundaries or as she said she was putty in my hands. But the flirting, I couldn't get over it. I ended up exploding again around Christmas time (I'm HUGE on gift giving) when I got her like 5 gifts, and she got me one. Maybe that's silly to some, but it's one of my languages of love. We didn't talk again until last summer, we picked up again like nothing had happened but I realized that it would be very hard to trust her. I can't have any doubts about your loyalty or it will never work.
In hindsight I think that she was my twin flame our relationship literally checks every box of what a twin flame is. I learned a ton from that relationship and have become way more in tune with myself emotionally.
Venus is more on the receptive end and they’re more lighthearted but they say some things that are deep that impacts you a lot. They normally retreat vs exploding (like the Pluto).
1) Don't ignore her attempts to contact you
2) Try to communicate your intentions as best as possible
3) If she ever gets explosive or dramatic like "you don't care" type of vibe, then going on the softer side and reassuring helps a lot. May be reminding of the ways that the things are good and that you do care
4) Don't wait for her ot initiate, if you want something go for it too
Do you think the list above helps?click to expand
Posted by six4sixThat's awesome. Any tips for the Pluto person? lolPosted by stillstillwaterThis helps a lot, both of your posts do. Thanks fore thesePosted by six4sixBiggest thing is respect & consideration (of course all relationships but more so in this aspect). So:Posted by stillstillwaterOhhh so I think I'm in that situation right now. So how can I, the venus, make things a little easier for my pluto girl. So she doesn't feel like she's in do or die situations or hanging on every word like everything I say will determine the entire fate of whether we are good together. I'm being a little dramatic but still. Like what kind of things could I say that would cut deep to a pluto?Posted by six4sixWell that’s what astrology articles say. But from my experience you know you’re Pluto when you put too much weight on minuscule details. Like everything feels do or die. You’re not really in power but you’re the one pushing the boundaries.Posted by stillstillwaterWe both had pluto Scorpio she didn't have any other score in her chart. she was gem sun, pisces moon, cancer mercury mars and the gem venus. I don't her houses because I didn't know her time of birth. I've kinda of skimmed over all the responses here, is it usually the pluto person or the venus person that has the upper hand?Posted by six4sixWere you Pluto person or was it some double aspects going on?Posted by stillstillwaterThanks for reading this, it turned out to be a much longer reply than I thought it would be lolPosted by six4sixWhy do you think those couple of times the girl had the power? And why you didn't like it?
Well this is interesting. I have both Venus and Pluto in Scorpio and most people my age have Pluto Scorpio. I don’t know enough about how aspects in one chart effect the person in the other but I can say I’m pretty sexually dominant and demanding. If I’m really interested in the girl I will let her know ahead of time because I am going to push her boundaries and introduce her to things she’s probaably never thought of or maybe she has but has never tried. If I don’t see the relationship going anywhere then I just do what I do and she experiences some crazy shit and then we go our separate ways and maybe from time to time I hear from her to relieve some stress.
However, there’s been two times where I’ve felt disempowered by the girl. Like I was giving her the keys to destroy me from the inside and trusting she wouldn’t. That was some scary shit. One of the situations I self sabotaged it because I didn’t like feeling like she had this power over me. The second one we dated for a few years probably should’ve only been one and it was an extremely intense relationship for both sides.
They also had Pluto Scorpio so idk what was different on how it effected the relationship or what other aspects played a role, but it’s an interesting concept that I’ll be more aware of.
The first girl it was my first serious relationship. We dated from 17-20, I had no idea about astrology (personally, I think Scorpio Venus can be the BEST placement when understood and used properly, but for a less evolved person, as I was at 17, it's a very heavy placement to have) She was a Aries mar, taurus Venus, I'm a Scorpio mars/venus and there was a lot of back and forth extremes. That relationship had everything, intense fights, passionate love, manipulation, cheating, power plays, everything. Looking back now, it's easy to say that it was a toxic relationship but we were two kids who had no business being in that relationship in the first place and there was so much influence from the environment that we were in that caused a lot of drama and who you are at 17 can be so different than who you are at 20. We stayed in contact for most of the time since breaking up but haven't spoke in a couple years, there's no hard feelings towards each other. We both realized who we were in that relationship isn't a true testament as to who we are as people and although we could never date again, the sexual chemistry was insane and we'll always care about each other because we both saw each other at our lowest points, and go through some really horrible shit that I'm not going to get into here. We know stuff about each other that we've never shared with anyone else and I'm always going to wish the best for her.
The second girl was a different intensity. This was two years ago. When we met we hit it off like crazy. I've never experienced instant chemistry like what we had before. We met at the gym and ended up talking for 4 hours but she wouldn't go home with me I tried more than once lol. We could talk for hours and hours and hours and never get bored. We met around my birthday and she came over one weekend, and payed for everything. Like here's this girl who just met me, payed for lunch, dinner, drinks, parking, like wtf who are you?? And while that was all great and lovely she did enjoy playing games from time to time and she was quite the tease. (gem venus) The first couple times I ignored it because we got along so well, and she wasn't actually doing anything. One night we're out and she does it again with our waiter so I brought up it later that night and I exploded. Mind you, as a kid growing up I used to get black out rage (mars/venus/pluto in Scorpio) but as I started to learn about astrology I began learning about why I did those things, what i had the potential of doing based on my placements and how I could better manage it. So I've become very good at managing my anger and around this time I hadn't blown up in a while. But heres this girl, I genuinely feel like this is one of if not the most unique connections I've ever experienced like we've known each other through multiple multiple life times, and she can't give me the least amount of courtesy. In every other way our relationship was perfect and she let me push through all of her boundaries or as she said she was putty in my hands. But the flirting, I couldn't get over it. I ended up exploding again around Christmas time (I'm HUGE on gift giving) when I got her like 5 gifts, and she got me one. Maybe that's silly to some, but it's one of my languages of love. We didn't talk again until last summer, we picked up again like nothing had happened but I realized that it would be very hard to trust her. I can't have any doubts about your loyalty or it will never work.
In hindsight I think that she was my twin flame our relationship literally checks every box of what a twin flame is. I learned a ton from that relationship and have become way more in tune with myself emotionally.
Venus is more on the receptive end and they’re more lighthearted but they say some things that are deep that impacts you a lot. They normally retreat vs exploding (like the Pluto).
1) Don't ignore her attempts to contact you
2) Try to communicate your intentions as best as possible
3) If she ever gets explosive or dramatic like "you don't care" type of vibe, then going on the softer side and reassuring helps a lot. May be reminding of the ways that the things are good and that you do care
4) Don't wait for her ot initiate, if you want something go for it too
Do you think the list above helps?click to expand
Posted by halalbaewow thanks. makes me feel like Wonder Woman. That's what I was saying before that being a Cap helps.
I always think that aspect isnt hard to handle for a Capricorn. Caps show love in a disciplined matter anyway, they need commitment and devotion from a lover before being romantically expressive. The Pluto person got nothing on them ime
Posted by six4sixDon't say anything you don't mean? Lol
^^^ to avoid saying them lol
I feel like Venus person says things and then the next day it's like it didn't happen.
Posted by Arielle83probably 10x. But hard to say...do you show that you're thinking about them?
So I’m the Venus person and they’re the pluto.
If I’m thinking and fantasizing about them, how are they thinking/feeling about me?
Posted by halalbaeWait so that picture is actually you? I thought the other picture you had was of Gal Gadot..fuck lol
I always think that aspect isnt hard to handle for a Capricorn. Caps show love in a disciplined matter anyway, they need commitment and devotion from a lover before being romantically expressive. The Pluto person got nothing on them ime
Posted by stillstillwaterI don’t feel like I understand this synastry stuff to understand well enough the differences of the Pluto and the Venus. From my experiences and what I’m learning from this thread I would say don’t jump to conclusions. If the Venus says or does something that you take offense to understand that they probably didn’t mean it as harsh as your interpreting it. Maybe take a moment to gather your thought and explain you don’t like it when “....”Posted by six4sixThat's awesome. Any tips for the Pluto person? lolPosted by stillstillwaterThis helps a lot, both of your posts do. Thanks fore thesePosted by six4sixBiggest thing is respect & consideration (of course all relationships but more so in this aspect). So:Posted by stillstillwaterOhhh so I think I'm in that situation right now. So how can I, the venus, make things a little easier for my pluto girl. So she doesn't feel like she's in do or die situations or hanging on every word like everything I say will determine the entire fate of whether we are good together. I'm being a little dramatic but still. Like what kind of things could I say that would cut deep to a pluto?Posted by six4sixWell that’s what astrology articles say. But from my experience you know you’re Pluto when you put too much weight on minuscule details. Like everything feels do or die. You’re not really in power but you’re the one pushing the boundaries.Posted by stillstillwaterWe both had pluto Scorpio she didn't have any other score in her chart. she was gem sun, pisces moon, cancer mercury mars and the gem venus. I don't her houses because I didn't know her time of birth. I've kinda of skimmed over all the responses here, is it usually the pluto person or the venus person that has the upper hand?Posted by six4sixWere you Pluto person or was it some double aspects going on?Posted by stillstillwaterThanks for reading this, it turned out to be a much longer reply than I thought it would be lolPosted by six4sixWhy do you think those couple of times the girl had the power? And why you didn't like it?
Well this is interesting. I have both Venus and Pluto in Scorpio and most people my age have Pluto Scorpio. I don’t know enough about how aspects in one chart effect the person in the other but I can say I’m pretty sexually dominant and demanding. If I’m really interested in the girl I will let her know ahead of time because I am going to push her boundaries and introduce her to things she’s probaably never thought of or maybe she has but has never tried. If I don’t see the relationship going anywhere then I just do what I do and she experiences some crazy shit and then we go our separate ways and maybe from time to time I hear from her to relieve some stress.
However, there’s been two times where I’ve felt disempowered by the girl. Like I was giving her the keys to destroy me from the inside and trusting she wouldn’t. That was some scary shit. One of the situations I self sabotaged it because I didn’t like feeling like she had this power over me. The second one we dated for a few years probably should’ve only been one and it was an extremely intense relationship for both sides.
They also had Pluto Scorpio so idk what was different on how it effected the relationship or what other aspects played a role, but it’s an interesting concept that I’ll be more aware of.
The first girl it was my first serious relationship. We dated from 17-20, I had no idea about astrology (personally, I think Scorpio Venus can be the BEST placement when understood and used properly, but for a less evolved person, as I was at 17, it's a very heavy placement to have) She was a Aries mar, taurus Venus, I'm a Scorpio mars/venus and there was a lot of back and forth extremes. That relationship had everything, intense fights, passionate love, manipulation, cheating, power plays, everything. Looking back now, it's easy to say that it was a toxic relationship but we were two kids who had no business being in that relationship in the first place and there was so much influence from the environment that we were in that caused a lot of drama and who you are at 17 can be so different than who you are at 20. We stayed in contact for most of the time since breaking up but haven't spoke in a couple years, there's no hard feelings towards each other. We both realized who we were in that relationship isn't a true testament as to who we are as people and although we could never date again, the sexual chemistry was insane and we'll always care about each other because we both saw each other at our lowest points, and go through some really horrible shit that I'm not going to get into here. We know stuff about each other that we've never shared with anyone else and I'm always going to wish the best for her.
The second girl was a different intensity. This was two years ago. When we met we hit it off like crazy. I've never experienced instant chemistry like what we had before. We met at the gym and ended up talking for 4 hours but she wouldn't go home with me I tried more than once lol. We could talk for hours and hours and hours and never get bored. We met around my birthday and she came over one weekend, and payed for everything. Like here's this girl who just met me, payed for lunch, dinner, drinks, parking, like wtf who are you?? And while that was all great and lovely she did enjoy playing games from time to time and she was quite the tease. (gem venus) The first couple times I ignored it because we got along so well, and she wasn't actually doing anything. One night we're out and she does it again with our waiter so I brought up it later that night and I exploded. Mind you, as a kid growing up I used to get black out rage (mars/venus/pluto in Scorpio) but as I started to learn about astrology I began learning about why I did those things, what i had the potential of doing based on my placements and how I could better manage it. So I've become very good at managing my anger and around this time I hadn't blown up in a while. But heres this girl, I genuinely feel like this is one of if not the most unique connections I've ever experienced like we've known each other through multiple multiple life times, and she can't give me the least amount of courtesy. In every other way our relationship was perfect and she let me push through all of her boundaries or as she said she was putty in my hands. But the flirting, I couldn't get over it. I ended up exploding again around Christmas time (I'm HUGE on gift giving) when I got her like 5 gifts, and she got me one. Maybe that's silly to some, but it's one of my languages of love. We didn't talk again until last summer, we picked up again like nothing had happened but I realized that it would be very hard to trust her. I can't have any doubts about your loyalty or it will never work.
In hindsight I think that she was my twin flame our relationship literally checks every box of what a twin flame is. I learned a ton from that relationship and have become way more in tune with myself emotionally.
Venus is more on the receptive end and they’re more lighthearted but they say some things that are deep that impacts you a lot. They normally retreat vs exploding (like the Pluto).
1) Don't ignore her attempts to contact you
2) Try to communicate your intentions as best as possible
3) If she ever gets explosive or dramatic like "you don't care" type of vibe, then going on the softer side and reassuring helps a lot. May be reminding of the ways that the things are good and that you do care
4) Don't wait for her ot initiate, if you want something go for it too
Do you think the list above helps?click to expand
Meet your Venus half way, there’s no need for power plays or withdrawing or anything. Remember your Venus person is just as interested as you are, maybe you two have different ways of showing it but by giving up some control or expectations of “how it’s supposed to be” you let things flow in the most positive manner much better than any controlled outcome you could dream up.
I don’t even know if any of that rings true I can only go based off this thread and what I think I’ve noticed in Pluto/Venus relationships. If that helps I’m happy I could, if I completely missed, sorry lol.
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Posted by stillstillwaterMe and my hubby... Venus Conjunt Pluto in Libra. I'm Pluto.
Also this article here:
In synastry, Pluto brings intensity, obsession, possessiveness and a craving for intimacy. Pluto wants to delve deep to uncover what’s underneath the surface. Superficiality does not appeal to Pluto; he wants something deep. He wants something transformative, something that transcends the boundaries between two people. Not in the Neptunian, spiritual way, but in a more physical, psychological way. Venus, on the other hand, wants balance and harmony. Venus is known as a superficial planet, as she craves beauty and cooperation above everything.
When Pluto meets Venus in synastry, the Beast meets Beauty. Pluto is not impressed by Venus’ social graces and flowery tastes. He is tremendously attracted to her charm, grace, and beauty, yes, but the attraction stems from far beyond her outer beauty. Pluto sees right into Venus’s psyche. He wants to uncover her layers, and wants to know her deepest, darkest secrets. He wants to take Venus into the depths of intimacy, where true bonding and intimacy take place. At first, Venus is taken aback; she is both frightened and intrigued by Pluto. She is flattered by his attention and interest in getting to know her, but his intensity is frightening. She loves his passion, as it makes her feel desired and beautiful. Venus knows she cannot hide from Pluto, and the temptation is hard to resist. If Pluto feels his level of intensity is not matched by Venus, he will increase his intensity until they are on the same level.
As in all Pluto synastry aspects, the Pluto person has the “upper hand”, and Venus is the submissive partner. As the relationship develops, the couple becomes demanding of each other. The fear of losing one another affects them both, giving rise to feelings of insecurity, jealousy, and possessiveness. Pluto desires complete domination and control over Venus, while Venus is eager to please Pluto. Pluto will continue to dig and dig at Venus’ mind until he is satisfied with Venus’ affection. “All or Nothing” characterizes this union. Pluto is not willing to share Venus, and uses manipulative tactics to ensure Venus belongs to him, and him only.
Pluto forces Venus to see something about herself that she wanted to keep hidden. His role is to transform Venus by exploring the depths of intimacy and sharing. The relationship is highly sexual, and the chemistry is addictive. This level of passion is the highest you will have in your life as the two explore and play out each others’ deepest, darkest secrets and fantasies. This aspect can result in sexual exploitation, as well, given Pluto’s dominance over Venus, and Venus’ desire to please Pluto in any way she can.
One final note: Venus-Pluto in synastry aspect can also result in financial exploitation. In addition to love and beauty, Venus also rules finances and personal possessions. Pluto may take advantage of Venus’ desire to please him by taking over her finances.
What exemplifies it for us is that his Venus is in the 7th and my Pluto is in the 8th where they belong. Moreso... he has Venus Conjunct Pluto natally in the 7th.
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Posted by ImpulsvNot in my case. When we leave Venus, they are damned near destoyed.Posted by Arielle83
So u think pluto feels it worse.
10x worse but we’re are good at keeping it under wraps
We used to itclick to expand
Damn, astrology was much simpler when all I knew about was personal planets. Ignorance is bliss I guess 😪
Posted by Arielle83Why not show interest ?Posted by stillstillwaterNo. One of them is the guy I’m seeing and the other is my work partner.Posted by Arielle83probably 10x. But hard to say...do you show that you're thinking about them?
So I’m the Venus person and they’re the pluto.
If I’m thinking and fantasizing about them, how are they thinking/feeling about me?
The guy I’m seeing knows I have a crush on my work partner. We all work together.
He teases me about it. He just msg me teasing that he thinks *w* misses me.click to expand
Posted by six4sixNo that was helpful, thank you! I’ll keep those things in mind. Actually kinna needed to hear it now hahaPosted by stillstillwaterI don’t feel like I understand this synastry stuff to understand well enough the differences of the Pluto and the Venus. From my experiences and what I’m learning from this thread I would say don’t jump to conclusions. If the Venus says or does something that you take offense to understand that they probably didn’t mean it as harsh as your interpreting it. Maybe take a moment to gather your thought and explain you don’t like it when “....”Posted by six4sixThat's awesome. Any tips for the Pluto person? lolPosted by stillstillwaterThis helps a lot, both of your posts do. Thanks fore thesePosted by six4sixBiggest thing is respect & consideration (of course all relationships but more so in this aspect). So:Posted by stillstillwaterOhhh so I think I'm in that situation right now. So how can I, the venus, make things a little easier for my pluto girl. So she doesn't feel like she's in do or die situations or hanging on every word like everything I say will determine the entire fate of whether we are good together. I'm being a little dramatic but still. Like what kind of things could I say that would cut deep to a pluto?Posted by six4sixWell that’s what astrology articles say. But from my experience you know you’re Pluto when you put too much weight on minuscule details. Like everything feels do or die. You’re not really in power but you’re the one pushing the boundaries.Posted by stillstillwaterWe both had pluto Scorpio she didn't have any other score in her chart. she was gem sun, pisces moon, cancer mercury mars and the gem venus. I don't her houses because I didn't know her time of birth. I've kinda of skimmed over all the responses here, is it usually the pluto person or the venus person that has the upper hand?Posted by six4sixWere you Pluto person or was it some double aspects going on?Posted by stillstillwaterThanks for reading this, it turned out to be a much longer reply than I thought it would be lolPosted by six4sixWhy do you think those couple of times the girl had the power? And why you didn't like it?
Well this is interesting. I have both Venus and Pluto in Scorpio and most people my age have Pluto Scorpio. I don’t know enough about how aspects in one chart effect the person in the other but I can say I’m pretty sexually dominant and demanding. If I’m really interested in the girl I will let her know ahead of time because I am going to push her boundaries and introduce her to things she’s probaably never thought of or maybe she has but has never tried. If I don’t see the relationship going anywhere then I just do what I do and she experiences some crazy shit and then we go our separate ways and maybe from time to time I hear from her to relieve some stress.
However, there’s been two times where I’ve felt disempowered by the girl. Like I was giving her the keys to destroy me from the inside and trusting she wouldn’t. That was some scary shit. One of the situations I self sabotaged it because I didn’t like feeling like she had this power over me. The second one we dated for a few years probably should’ve only been one and it was an extremely intense relationship for both sides.
They also had Pluto Scorpio so idk what was different on how it effected the relationship or what other aspects played a role, but it’s an interesting concept that I’ll be more aware of.
The first girl it was my first serious relationship. We dated from 17-20, I had no idea about astrology (personally, I think Scorpio Venus can be the BEST placement when understood and used properly, but for a less evolved person, as I was at 17, it's a very heavy placement to have) She was a Aries mar, taurus Venus, I'm a Scorpio mars/venus and there was a lot of back and forth extremes. That relationship had everything, intense fights, passionate love, manipulation, cheating, power plays, everything. Looking back now, it's easy to say that it was a toxic relationship but we were two kids who had no business being in that relationship in the first place and there was so much influence from the environment that we were in that caused a lot of drama and who you are at 17 can be so different than who you are at 20. We stayed in contact for most of the time since breaking up but haven't spoke in a couple years, there's no hard feelings towards each other. We both realized who we were in that relationship isn't a true testament as to who we are as people and although we could never date again, the sexual chemistry was insane and we'll always care about each other because we both saw each other at our lowest points, and go through some really horrible shit that I'm not going to get into here. We know stuff about each other that we've never shared with anyone else and I'm always going to wish the best for her.
The second girl was a different intensity. This was two years ago. When we met we hit it off like crazy. I've never experienced instant chemistry like what we had before. We met at the gym and ended up talking for 4 hours but she wouldn't go home with me I tried more than once lol. We could talk for hours and hours and hours and never get bored. We met around my birthday and she came over one weekend, and payed for everything. Like here's this girl who just met me, payed for lunch, dinner, drinks, parking, like wtf who are you?? And while that was all great and lovely she did enjoy playing games from time to time and she was quite the tease. (gem venus) The first couple times I ignored it because we got along so well, and she wasn't actually doing anything. One night we're out and she does it again with our waiter so I brought up it later that night and I exploded. Mind you, as a kid growing up I used to get black out rage (mars/venus/pluto in Scorpio) but as I started to learn about astrology I began learning about why I did those things, what i had the potential of doing based on my placements and how I could better manage it. So I've become very good at managing my anger and around this time I hadn't blown up in a while. But heres this girl, I genuinely feel like this is one of if not the most unique connections I've ever experienced like we've known each other through multiple multiple life times, and she can't give me the least amount of courtesy. In every other way our relationship was perfect and she let me push through all of her boundaries or as she said she was putty in my hands. But the flirting, I couldn't get over it. I ended up exploding again around Christmas time (I'm HUGE on gift giving) when I got her like 5 gifts, and she got me one. Maybe that's silly to some, but it's one of my languages of love. We didn't talk again until last summer, we picked up again like nothing had happened but I realized that it would be very hard to trust her. I can't have any doubts about your loyalty or it will never work.
In hindsight I think that she was my twin flame our relationship literally checks every box of what a twin flame is. I learned a ton from that relationship and have become way more in tune with myself emotionally.
Venus is more on the receptive end and they’re more lighthearted but they say some things that are deep that impacts you a lot. They normally retreat vs exploding (like the Pluto).
1) Don't ignore her attempts to contact you
2) Try to communicate your intentions as best as possible
3) If she ever gets explosive or dramatic like "you don't care" type of vibe, then going on the softer side and reassuring helps a lot. May be reminding of the ways that the things are good and that you do care
4) Don't wait for her ot initiate, if you want something go for it too
Do you think the list above helps?
Meet your Venus half way, there’s no need for power plays or withdrawing or anything. Remember your Venus person is just as interested as you are, maybe you two have different ways of showing it but by giving up some control or expectations of “how it’s supposed to be” you let things flow in the most positive manner much better than any controlled outcome you could dream up.
I don’t even know if any of that rings true I can only go based off this thread and what I think I’ve noticed in Pluto/Venus relationships. If that helps I’m happy I could, if I completely missed, sorry lol.click to expand
Posted by VenusAquariusSo what does it feel like for you guys? How you each experience the relationship based on that aspect?Posted by stillstillwaterMe and my hubby... Venus Conjunt Pluto in Libra. I'm Pluto.
Also this article here:
In synastry, Pluto brings intensity, obsession, possessiveness and a craving for intimacy. Pluto wants to delve deep to uncover what’s underneath the surface. Superficiality does not appeal to Pluto; he wants something deep. He wants something transformative, something that transcends the boundaries between two people. Not in the Neptunian, spiritual way, but in a more physical, psychological way. Venus, on the other hand, wants balance and harmony. Venus is known as a superficial planet, as she craves beauty and cooperation above everything.
When Pluto meets Venus in synastry, the Beast meets Beauty. Pluto is not impressed by Venus’ social graces and flowery tastes. He is tremendously attracted to her charm, grace, and beauty, yes, but the attraction stems from far beyond her outer beauty. Pluto sees right into Venus’s psyche. He wants to uncover her layers, and wants to know her deepest, darkest secrets. He wants to take Venus into the depths of intimacy, where true bonding and intimacy take place. At first, Venus is taken aback; she is both frightened and intrigued by Pluto. She is flattered by his attention and interest in getting to know her, but his intensity is frightening. She loves his passion, as it makes her feel desired and beautiful. Venus knows she cannot hide from Pluto, and the temptation is hard to resist. If Pluto feels his level of intensity is not matched by Venus, he will increase his intensity until they are on the same level.
As in all Pluto synastry aspects, the Pluto person has the “upper hand”, and Venus is the submissive partner. As the relationship develops, the couple becomes demanding of each other. The fear of losing one another affects them both, giving rise to feelings of insecurity, jealousy, and possessiveness. Pluto desires complete domination and control over Venus, while Venus is eager to please Pluto. Pluto will continue to dig and dig at Venus’ mind until he is satisfied with Venus’ affection. “All or Nothing” characterizes this union. Pluto is not willing to share Venus, and uses manipulative tactics to ensure Venus belongs to him, and him only.
Pluto forces Venus to see something about herself that she wanted to keep hidden. His role is to transform Venus by exploring the depths of intimacy and sharing. The relationship is highly sexual, and the chemistry is addictive. This level of passion is the highest you will have in your life as the two explore and play out each others’ deepest, darkest secrets and fantasies. This aspect can result in sexual exploitation, as well, given Pluto’s dominance over Venus, and Venus’ desire to please Pluto in any way she can.
One final note: Venus-Pluto in synastry aspect can also result in financial exploitation. In addition to love and beauty, Venus also rules finances and personal possessions. Pluto may take advantage of Venus’ desire to please him by taking over her finances.
What exemplifies it for us is that his Venus is in the 7th and my Pluto is in the 8th where they belong. Moreso... he has Venus Conjunct Pluto natally in the 7th.click to expand
Posted by stillstillwaterSo many things that i gave a chance to but long term it really is about what you have in common that will glue you together.Posted by fishcrabscale2Why is he not right for you on paper or logically?Posted by stillstillwaterI thought id be completely over it by (my timeline)Posted by fishcrabscale2So you moved to a different city to get space but now it's even worse for you?Posted by stillstillwaterYou know it won't go away unless you force yourself out of it ~~ you know i tried it too but doesnt work. Scorpio Pluto-this was my default mode. I was also the one that left that city... but forcing it just turned more painful. So after all the emotional turmoil i created, now im thinking why not just swim, wade deep, indulge myself until it implodesPosted by fishcrabscale2Yeah exactly. You know it won't go away unless you force yourself out of it. It would take a lot of strength.Posted by stillstillwaterI dont know the difference coz im always the Pluto person. It might be better and less intense to be the Venus person?Posted by fishcrabscale2Also do you prefer to be the Venus person?Posted by stillstillwaterI have this aspect too... and im the Pluto person.
We were walking and as a I joke I said, "there's always something between us.First the distance and now the rain! We're like star crossed lovers with always something in between."
He said, "that's what makes it even better."
Like he always knows what to say. I hate that.
Btw he got Moon/Pluto aspect in his natal chart.
Last thursday i was the one who had a dream... this morning he sent me a message that he dreamt about me. The dreams never stop showing even after almost 2yrs that we havent seen each other in flesh.
It is an exhausting connection that never goes.
What did you do about yours?
Also, i found out that im always the pluto person with all the guys i had a thing with ~😰
Also, it doesnt help that a lot of our other aspects are in watery places like our moons and asc
..and wow yours is 4-5 yrs 😰 i just know that it wont go away. Ive tried. And for months im trying the "softer" way to handle it like in your previous post...
So through all of this I learned to be more open and share my feelings despite how much it would hurt. I learned that I just had to do it for me without any hopes or expectations. Just knowing that I'm putting my truth out there. On his last day I actually did tell him that I want to apologize for all the times that I was pushy and I don't want to add stress to his life. I want to be a fond memory. Also clarified that just because we spent those wonderful moments together doesn't mean i have any expectations of him, we can be just friends.
Softer approach also doesn't fuel the extreme emotions in yourself.
Do you think he wants you? May be honesty is the best policy? Like just say your piece and never know where it will go. I do think Pluto/Venus can work. It's getting over the initial fear.
He wants me but i thought not much ~feels not enough. Also, the head vs the heart thing... he got my heart but not my head. My logical mind thinks he is not the right person. When we were still together i dreamed of my late dad saying: "Is this your boyfriend? Look at how he is behaving." ~something similar, in effect: we educated you so you can make better decisions. Maybe it was my critical brain or maybe spirits are real 😶 anyhoo, we both have Venus in Virgo. It just have to be right. In the meantime, im exercising the "soft approach"click to expand
Different race, culture, religion, life style , level of education, how they handle public/social situations with family/friends/strangers, finances, communication -maybe his lack of air is also the cause of being not technologically-aware/general worldview/outlook
Posted by halalbaeYou do in that picture but I think you look perfect the way you are..do you have any Taurus in your chart?Posted by six4sixYes its me lol Gal Gadot? I wish I actually did look like herPosted by halalbaeWait so that picture is actually you? I thought the other picture you had was of Gal Gadot..fuck lol
I always think that aspect isnt hard to handle for a Capricorn. Caps show love in a disciplined matter anyway, they need commitment and devotion from a lover before being romantically expressive. The Pluto person got nothing on them imeclick to expand
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