What do you know about the Vertex?

This topic was created in the Astrology forum by raad182 on Thursday, September 15, 2016 and has 43 replies.
I read that its about fate, something that is written to happen in our lifes.

Also I checked a few celebrities Vertex and its make sense.

Examples:

Obama - Virgo(Work and routine) in the 7th(society)

Angelina Jolie - Sagg(Expansion and Development) in the 5th(Entertainment)

Marilyn Monroe - Same as Angelina

Brad Pitt - Cancer(Family and home) but near Leo(Spotlight) in the 8th(Extreme, shared resources, magnetism, sensuality)

Michael Jackson - Same as Obama but the 7th is about art too.

Kurt Kobain - Pisces(Illusion, addiction, artistic) in the 6th(Work and Health)

I came up with this question because my Vertex conj MC, so maybe my fate is to follow some career path.

Thoughts?!

Mine is in Libra 6th house. I'm not sure what that means.
Seems fate related

https://cafeastrology.com/articles/vertexsignshousesaspects.html

VERTEX IN THE FIFTH HOUSE:

You have a childlike orientation, in all of its manifestations, toward relationships on an internal

level. That implicit trust, or perhaps naivete, that was instilled in our childhood persists far into maturity. The concomitant explosions and occasional tantrums when these constructs are violated also accompany this position. You have a need for fun, creativity, and excitement in a committed

relationship, no matter how many years it has endured. You often have deep fears, typical of children, of abandonment, as

well as a need for universal acceptance, no matter how you act, which you need your partner to respect and nurture, rather than rebuke, especially in adulthood.

VERTEX IN THE SIXTH HOUSE

You have an attitude of duty, obligation and sacrifice when it comes to heartfelt interactions. Here we often find associations unconsciously based on a medical or religious model of service and sometimes even sainthood. The negative side is the tendency to become hypochondriacal or martyristic to get the love so desperately wanted. There is a need for others to appreciate the sincerity of your intentions, to the daily tasks you execute in a conscientious and caring way and for others to know that your actions, no matter how routine they may seem, are based on devoted love.

VERTEX IN THE SEVENTH: The Vertex in the seventh house is the classic position for those who are always in a partnership of one kind or another (if only in our heads), desperately seeking one, or have decided that it isn't worth the risk since our expectations will never be met. This position indicates a sense that we are not really complete unless we are intimately involved with someone. On some levels there is an irrational fear of ending up alone. The dark side is that you can get highly self-righteous about acceptable modes of behaviour in interacting with others and thereby alienate the very people you long for. Your parental role model was less than secure in your subconscious perceptions, though it may seem fine on an external level.

VERTEX IN THE EIGHTH HOUSE. Indicates an internal yearning for an inseparable union with and total commitment from another, come what may. This need is so intense that we may fantasise all manner of unspeakable actions and reactions if the final dream, once attained, is even threatened. The dark side is that when the reality of our partner does not fit this model (and it rarely does totally) we have a difficult time adjusting if faced with a breach of contract of any sort. Once badly hurt there is a tendency to become jaded and guarded in future relationships, thereby passing up the opportunity to explore interactions which might just fulfil out intense needs perfectly.
VERTEX IN THE EIGHTH HOUSE. Indicates an internal yearning for an inseparable union with and total commitment from another, come what may. This need is so intense that we may fantasise all manner of unspeakable actions and reactions if the final dream, once attained, is even threatened. The dark side is that when the reality of our partner does not fit this model (and it rarely does totally) we have a difficult time adjusting if faced with a breach of contract of any sort. Once badly hurt there is a tendency to become jaded and guarded in future relationships, thereby passing up the opportunity to explore interactions which might just fulfil out intense needs perfectly.

This is mine and in cancer to add a little more flair to it.... I wish I could say this didn't sound like me but it does....
Posted by FknNerd
Mine is in taurus in the 8th (Extreme, shared resources, magnetism, sensuality). What does taurus represent? Money and possessions?
You will make lots of money producing porn.

:- D

I'm here all week folks!
Posted by Season
Mine is in Libra 6th house. I'm not sure what that means.
You will be a judge or lawyer/lobbyist.

;- P

Any other questions??

I better check my Vertex.... lol
Posted by AbbyNormal
Posted by FknNerd
Mine is in taurus in the 8th (Extreme, shared resources, magnetism, sensuality). What does taurus represent? Money and possessions?
You will make lots of money producing porn.

:- D

I'm here all week folks!
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If Vertex is really a fate, it doesn't mean that is a good fate maybe its bad.

8th house is the Death and transformation house, just saying...Taurus is about your resources, what you already own, you should check Venus position, aspects and it will getting more complicated...

Of course, im supposing that Vertex is related to fate, maybe im badly wrong but if you check celebrities Vertex you will see that its make sense.
Oh geez Scorpio in the 5th... fun...

On to google!! :- P
Posted by blackphase
How do you find your Vertex?
Astrodienst Extended Chart > Bottom of the page - Select Vertex in the box > Generate the chart
Posted by AbbyNormal
Oh geez Scorpio in the 5th... fun...

On to google!! :- P


By your logic, live porn shows on a theather. lol
Posted by TauroMale22
Its karmic, events that will happen when something or someone s planets aspect it.
Also isn't it and I could be making this up but when someone's lines up with yours - it was fate that you met?

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Posted by TaurusinTexas
Posted by TauroMale22
Its karmic, events that will happen when something or someone s planets aspect it.
Also isn't it and I could be making this up but when someone's lines up with yours - it was fate that you met?

Yes, i just said that lol
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Sorry I thought you were talking planets, I was referring to their vertex but yes got it, glad to know I wasn't making that up ?

Guys, just a few more examples, check this out!

C.Ronaldo - Leo(Spotlight) in the 8th (Extreme, sensuality, power)

Rafael Nadal - Gemini(Versatility, fast thinking, sports) in the 8th.

Beckham - Libra(Fashion, beauty, society) in the 6th (Work, routine, health)

Federer - Aquarius(Unique, humanitarian, genius) in the 6th.


I think that is better to check dead peoples Vertex as we can check what was their fate. I will do this later.
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Posted by AbbyNormal
Oh geez Scorpio in the 5th... fun...

On to google!! :- P


By your logic, live porn shows on a theather. lol
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I was thinking along the lines of burlesque myself when I saw it!! Lol

Although I could never see it. I'm like a Taliban. I keep my body a secret. :- P jk not that prudish but I'm definitely more conservative.

So, I dont get it... lol
Posted by raad182
Guys, just a few more examples, check this out!

C.Ronaldo - Leo(Spotlight) in the 8th (Extreme, sensuality, power)

Rafael Nadal - Gemini(Versatility, fast thinking, sports) in the 8th.

Beckham - Libra(Fashion, beauty, society) in the 6th (Work, routine, health)

Federer - Aquarius(Unique, humanitarian, genius) in the 6th.


I think that is better to check dead peoples Vertex as we can check what was their fate. I will do this later.
So is that David Beckham or Victoria Beckham with their vertex in Libra in the 6th? (They're both fashionistas). I can relate more to the fashion thing, cuz it's part of what I do with my art and maybe I'm already on the right road ? That would be pretty awesome.
Posted by Season
Posted by raad182
Guys, just a few more examples, check this out!

C.Ronaldo - Leo(Spotlight) in the 8th (Extreme, sensuality, power)

Rafael Nadal - Gemini(Versatility, fast thinking, sports) in the 8th.

Beckham - Libra(Fashion, beauty, society) in the 6th (Work, routine, health)

Federer - Aquarius(Unique, humanitarian, genius) in the 6th.


I think that is better to check dead peoples Vertex as we can check what was their fate. I will do this later.
So is that David Beckham or Victoria Beckham with their vertex in Libra in the 6th? (They're both fashionistas). I can relate more to the fashion thing, cuz it's part of what I do with my art and maybe I'm already on the right road ? That would be pretty awesome.
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David Beckham his beauty gave an boost on his popularity and career.

Victoria Beckham Scorpio(sensuality) in the 5th (Entertainment, spotlight). The Space girls made her fame.

Mine

Vertex Conjunct Midheaven

You may be fated to have a very influential incarnation. Like Ghandi of India you may be here for a special purpose. Your parents influence your career as well as your moral and spiritual values.

Source:https://cafeastrology.com/articles/vertexsignshousesaspects.html
Only thing ive read about the vertex is that in a composite chart, if the vertex and descendant conjunct, it's a fated relationship. And I've had a few really important relationships with that in the composite! I also read the vertex is supposed to be something that when someone else conjuncts it, (Talking synastry now) that that person opens up a gateway to a world with a different view. So you learn things from a different point of view?

Mines in Libra in the 6th.
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Posted by TaurusinTexas
VERTEX IN THE EIGHTH HOUSE. Indicates an internal yearning for an inseparable union with and total commitment from another, come what may. This need is so intense that we may fantasise all manner of unspeakable actions and reactions if the final dream, once attained, is even threatened. The dark side is that when the reality of our partner does not fit this model (and it rarely does totally) we have a difficult time adjusting if faced with a breach of contract of any sort. Once badly hurt there is a tendency to become jaded and guarded in future relationships, thereby passing up the opportunity to explore interactions which might just fulfil out intense needs perfectly.

This is mine and in cancer to add a little more flair to it.... I wish I could say this didn't sound like me but it does....
And you have Scorp Moon? Not trying to be mean or anything, but OOF!
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That moon sits in the 12th house also - honestly I'm pretty much crazy....

Hey guys, just a few more...

John Lennon - Libra(beauty, refinement, arts) in the 6th(work, routine, discipline)

Charles Chaplin - Gemini(Communication) in the 8th(Extreme, power, transformation)

William Shakespeare - Saggitarius(Expansion) in the 5th(Spotlight, entertainment, creativity)

Walt Disney - Pisces(dreamy, illusion, artistic) in the 6th(work, routine, discipline)

Richard Branson - Capricorn(Hardwork, business) in the 5th(Spotlight, entertainment, creativity)


Damn!!! :o
Posted by raad182
Mine

Vertex Conjunct Midheaven

You may be fated to have a very influential incarnation. Like Ghandi of India you may be here for a special purpose. Your parents influence your career as well as your moral and spiritual values.

Source:https://cafeastrology.com/articles/vertexsignshousesaspects.html


This is misinformation. The vertex can't conjunct the MC, the vertex is a karmic door that can only reside in houses 5-8. It can't conjunct someone else's MC, however. It's commonly referred to as the second descendant. It doesn't really apply to anything except synastry or composite charts. If someone else's angle's or planets make contact, typically by opposition or conjunction, to your vertex natally or by transit, then it is considered fated. It does not guarantee a meeting, but it opens a window to a possible meeting with a "soulmate". This does not have to mean romantic, just someone you are fated to meet. It does not mean a life partner, just someone that for some reason you are fated to meet. The vertex is literally activated by other people's charts/transits.

^It CAN conjunct/aspect someone else's MC, however, that should say. But no, it can't conjunct your own. The MC is the highest point of your chart, between houses 9 and 10. It's physically impossible for the vertex to be there because of where the vertex resides on the ecliptic. The vertex is a literal mathematical point in the sky, so it's unmoving. It's not a tangible thing that could jump over to the MC, which is another mathematical point in the sky, as are all the angles.
Also note that you have an anti vertex, which is always in opposition to your vertex. You won't ever see it listed as I've never seen a chart that gives the option to list it, but it's there. It's also a karmic point.
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Also note that you have an anti vertex, which is always in opposition to your vertex. You won't ever see it listed as I've never seen a chart that gives the option to list it, but it's there. It's also a karmic point.
What does the anti vertex do?
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Posted by raad182
Mine

Vertex Conjunct Midheaven

You may be fated to have a very influential incarnation. Like Ghandi of India you may be here for a special purpose. Your parents influence your career as well as your moral and spiritual values.

Source:https://cafeastrology.com/articles/vertexsignshousesaspects.html


This is misinformation. The vertex can't conjunct the MC, the vertex is a karmic door that can only reside in houses 5-8. It can't conjunct someone else's MC, however. It's commonly referred to as the second descendant. It doesn't really apply to anything except synastry or composite charts. If someone else's angle's or planets make contact, typically by opposition or conjunction, to your vertex natally or by transit, then it is considered fated. It does not guarantee a meeting, but it opens a window to a possible meeting with a "soulmate". This does not have to mean romantic, just someone you are fated to meet. It does not mean a life partner, just someone that for some reason you are fated to meet. The vertex is literally activated by other people's charts/transits.

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But its there when I generate my chart.

Is Astrodienst wrong?

In syn chart......

I have my Vertex in Aries in 6th house

He has Vertex in Gemini in 5th house

VX quintile AC But I cant find information on this
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Mine

Vertex Conjunct Midheaven

You may be fated to have a very influential incarnation. Like Ghandi of India you may be here for a special purpose. Your parents influence your career as well as your moral and spiritual values.

Source:https://cafeastrology.com/articles/vertexsignshousesaspects.html


This is misinformation. The vertex can't conjunct the MC, the vertex is a karmic door that can only reside in houses 5-8. It can't conjunct someone else's MC, however. It's commonly referred to as the second descendant. It doesn't really apply to anything except synastry or composite charts. If someone else's angle's or planets make contact, typically by opposition or conjunction, to your vertex natally or by transit, then it is considered fated. It does not guarantee a meeting, but it opens a window to a possible meeting with a "soulmate". This does not have to mean romantic, just someone you are fated to meet. It does not mean a life partner, just someone that for some reason you are fated to meet. The vertex is literally activated by other people's charts/transits.

But its there when I generate my chart.

Is Astrodienst wrong?

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Lion, I think that you're wrong.

I've generated the chart in Astrotheme too and it really conjuct my MC...maybe I'm fated to be a important Pisces MC mofo in the society.

Pray for me guys

Posted by FknNerd
A user on here used to preach about how the sign your vertex is in is your soulmate, but she was a taurus with her vertex in virgo so might not be true.
Nope (agree w/you) but am adding that the answer is in your birth chart. It will show you who, what, when, where, and why. I just WISH I could read mine and/or go to an astrologer who can read it for me. I look at it and TRY to read charts (101) and I can catch a little, but not all of it. I THINK it shows my meeting a Taurus man at 51 (I AM 51); well it better happen soon (six more months) because I turn 52 in March. Freaky, too, because it shows I had a traumatic thing happen to me at three years old (true), and it shows my two ex husbands who are Virgos!!!! Cool

Hug cyber hugs!

Love,

Eva
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Mine

Vertex Conjunct Midheaven

You may be fated to have a very influential incarnation. Like Ghandi of India you may be here for a special purpose. Your parents influence your career as well as your moral and spiritual values.

Source:https://cafeastrology.com/articles/vertexsignshousesaspects.html


This is misinformation. The vertex can't conjunct the MC, the vertex is a karmic door that can only reside in houses 5-8. It can't conjunct someone else's MC, however. It's commonly referred to as the second descendant. It doesn't really apply to anything except synastry or composite charts. If someone else's angle's or planets make contact, typically by opposition or conjunction, to your vertex natally or by transit, then it is considered fated. It does not guarantee a meeting, but it opens a window to a possible meeting with a "soulmate". This does not have to mean romantic, just someone you are fated to meet. It does not mean a life partner, just someone that for some reason you are fated to meet. The vertex is literally activated by other people's charts/transits.

But its there when I generate my chart.

Is Astrodienst wrong?



Which house system did you use?

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Placidus
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Mine

Vertex Conjunct Midheaven

You may be fated to have a very influential incarnation. Like Ghandi of India you may be here for a special purpose. Your parents influence your career as well as your moral and spiritual values.

Source:https://cafeastrology.com/articles/vertexsignshousesaspects.html


This is misinformation. The vertex can't conjunct the MC, the vertex is a karmic door that can only reside in houses 5-8. It can't conjunct someone else's MC, however. It's commonly referred to as the second descendant. It doesn't really apply to anything except synastry or composite charts. If someone else's angle's or planets make contact, typically by opposition or conjunction, to your vertex natally or by transit, then it is considered fated. It does not guarantee a meeting, but it opens a window to a possible meeting with a "soulmate". This does not have to mean romantic, just someone you are fated to meet. It does not mean a life partner, just someone that for some reason you are fated to meet. The vertex is literally activated by other people's charts/transits.

But its there when I generate my chart.

Is Astrodienst wrong?



Which house system did you use?

Placidus


Okie

So vertex in the 9th house conjuncts your MC, right? That's possible.

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Yesss !!!

Could you help? How do I interpret this aspect? There is no information about it anywhere.
Posted by NotSoInstant
In synastry Vertex and Anti vertex aspects can be significant.


Yes, but it has to be a tight, if not exact degree, to be activated.

Vertex in Taurus

You are expected to complete something already set in motion. Others expect you to become self-sustaining and self-supporting, to deal with security problems, and to support the arts in some way. People want you to deal with the world on a material level.

Accomplishing these things may create a solution for a severe emotional or material lack. You outgrow dependency on others and manage your own affairs.

Not doing so may keep you from attaining the self-esteem that you could gain from being self-sufficient. You may also feel social or emotional indebtedness.


Astro Vertex in Taurus 8th house

This person's karmic fate and method of reception of energies is practical, often skeptical and stubborn, and loves serenity and inner peace. Most often this manifests in the area of life dealing with sex, death, the occult, and other hard to grasp topics.


Yeah ok. Sure man.
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Posted by FknNerd
A user on here used to preach about how the sign your vertex is in is your soulmate, but she was a taurus with her vertex in virgo so might not be true.
Nope (agree w/you) but am adding that the answer is in your birth chart. It will show you who, what, when, where, and why. I just WISH I could read mine and/or go to an astrologer who can read it for me. I look at it and TRY to read charts (101) and I can catch a little, but not all of it. I THINK it shows my meeting a Taurus man at 51 (I AM 51); well it better happen soon (six more months) because I turn 52 in March. Freaky, too, because it shows I had a traumatic thing happen to me at three years old (true), and it shows my two ex husbands who are Virgos!!!! Cool

Hug cyber hugs!

Love,

Eva
You should look at how it progresses. Generally it will only move a maximum of 3 or 4 different signs in your lifetime and, when it has moved sign, it has produced the strangest experiences for people I've read and for myself at those moments. Only one first-hand experience and the rest, second-hand information that I've witnessed.

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Yeah, like the Eclipse tonight in Pisces...19 years ago, 1997. BAD experience with a Scorpio. Live and learn. Hug cyber hugs!

Love,

Eva

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And also when I read it is fate.... I read these articles like come on.... fate is a big subject. North Node is meant to be fated. Vertex is meant to be fated. Progressions are meant to be fated. Nessus and Dejanira and however many asteroids come under the "fate" section.

Which I have no problem with. But why are they all described in vague and generic terms?

What's the different between a fated North Node relationship in 7th House and a fated Vertex relationship in 7th House? There should be specific detail.

^Ok I admit within these placements, I am being a tease because I do know specifics.... but Vertex, I know very little about.
Not at all, I personally don't have this confusion.

North Node is your life path, you can choose to follow it and live a fullfilled live or don't follow it and be ok. Its your mission on earth, you can quit your mission if you want.

Fate is something that will happen, you want it or not, you can't runaway from it, its written.

I think this is the right concept. I prefer to study by practical examples and I will keep digging about Vertex = Fate on celebrities charts.

But im REALLY curious about mine because based on the replies above its pretty rare and conjuct my MC (career and role in the society), mine is in Pisces(spiritual, deep) and it makes me even more curious.
My Vertex is in the same position of Gandhi's Vertex but his is in Cancer and mine in Pisces.


:o
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My Vertex is in the same position of Gandhi's Vertex but his is in Cancer and mine in Pisces.


:o


Gandhi was in the right place that changed his career,public image, status etc,... He was a lawyer in SA but somehow he got involved in politics through his non violence movement - he had the spiritual gift for satyagrah-he was made ready for it by the events that unfolded. So our spiritual evolvement also matters when it comes to fated events, imo.


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Maybe this is why his Vertex is in Cancer(Nurturer, Mother like)...this is what fate is about, he was just an average joe and became what he became because it was his fate, life would find a way for that to happen.

Funny thing is that I think about get involved in politics in some point of my life, not for power but just to help people. Maybe my dream will come true.
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maybe these are nothing more than concepts that help most of us to behave in this life time...

Somehow I don't believe in fate nor destiny.... it takes away the allure of living. But an image of someone pouring hot oil on me is enough to mske me buy into the concept of karma lol

I feel the opposite when I think of fate. It makes me want to live more. But I try to think of it more in the context of chaos theory.

I feel how we meet our fate is up to us. Even if some events in your life are predetermined, you still have the will along the way to ask yourself: What kind of person do you want to be when you meet your fate?

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I've always thought that Astrology was BS, i was cynical about it but when I saw that its make all sense and when I started to believe 100% in it, I became a little bit depressed " Why shoud I live, If everything is already wrote somewhere? " but a few days later, I felt so good about life in general, it makes me feel more connected about who I am and to accept more other people´s flaws and mistakes, I can say that it was a turning point in my life that I will never forget.
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Mine

Vertex Conjunct Midheaven

You may be fated to have a very influential incarnation. Like Ghandi of India you may be here for a special purpose. Your parents influence your career as well as your moral and spiritual values.

Source:https://cafeastrology.com/articles/vertexsignshousesaspects.html


This is misinformation. The vertex can't conjunct the MC, the vertex is a karmic door that can only reside in houses 5-8. It can't conjunct someone else's MC, however. It's commonly referred to as the second descendant. It doesn't really apply to anything except synastry or composite charts. If someone else's angle's or planets make contact, typically by opposition or conjunction, to your vertex natally or by transit, then it is considered fated. It does not guarantee a meeting, but it opens a window to a possible meeting with a "soulmate". This does not have to mean romantic, just someone you are fated to meet. It does not mean a life partner, just someone that for some reason you are fated to meet. The vertex is literally activated by other people's charts/transits.

But its there when I generate my chart.

Is Astrodienst wrong?

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Can you post your chart?

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Also note that you have an anti vertex, which is always in opposition to your vertex. You won't ever see it listed as I've never seen a chart that gives the option to list it, but it's there. It's also a karmic point.
What does the anti vertex do?
uh its the ascendant? because the vertex is a point to it or something.
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The vertex is not the ascendant. The ascendant is the ascendant. The ascendant is the eastern most point of your chart. the anti-vertex is in the south east of your chart, the vertex in the north west.

The anti-vertex, like the vertex is a karmic point that gets activated by other people's planets, transits. The vertex doesn't do anything for anything except open doorways towards fated/karmic relationships. All the hoohah about it being linked to ALL fated aspects, meaning career, money, etc, is incorrect. When I say fated/karmic, these are not the same thing. Fated means destined to happen, karmic means happened in the past. So something that is both fated and karmic happens as a result of past relationships. So, basically it's a soulmate doorway, but it does not give information about a past life. The anti-vertex, just like the vertex is a doorway, that opens when activated, giving a fated person the opportunity to come into your life and vice versa. That's pretty much it.

If you want to look at karmic (past life) aspects, look at the house your south node falls in, what's the ruler of that house? WHERE is the ruler of that house and what aspects is it making to other planets? This will tell you about past life/karmic situations. If you want to know more about fated aspects, do the same for the north node, but just.. don't look at the vertex for lifepath stuff.

Again, vertex only works with other people's aspects. Whether they be romantic or platonic, the vertex is activated by transits and or natal aspects from other people's charts. That's why it's heavily considered in fated relationships through synastry or composite.

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Mine

Vertex Conjunct Midheaven

You may be fated to have a very influential incarnation. Like Ghandi of India you may be here for a special purpose. Your parents influence your career as well as your moral and spiritual values.

Source:https://cafeastrology.com/articles/vertexsignshousesaspects.html


This is misinformation. The vertex can't conjunct the MC, the vertex is a karmic door that can only reside in houses 5-8. It can't conjunct someone else's MC, however. It's commonly referred to as the second descendant. It doesn't really apply to anything except synastry or composite charts. If someone else's angle's or planets make contact, typically by opposition or conjunction, to your vertex natally or by transit, then it is considered fated. It does not guarantee a meeting, but it opens a window to a possible meeting with a "soulmate". This does not have to mean romantic, just someone you are fated to meet. It does not mean a life partner, just someone that for some reason you are fated to meet. The vertex is literally activated by other people's charts/transits.

But its there when I generate my chart.

Is Astrodienst wrong?

Can you post your chart?

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I've never seen a 9th house vertex, but I did dig around and then I pulled gandhi's chart, and he does have it. I found one forum somewhere where someone has it, and apparently it's very rare to have a 4th or 9th house vertex, so consider me standing corrected. Sorry for calling you out like that.

It's a pretty cool placement.

Posted by raad182
I read that its about fate, something that is written to happen in our lifes.

Also I checked a few celebrities Vertex and its make sense.

Examples:

Obama - Virgo(Work and routine) in the 7th(society)

Angelina Jolie - Sagg(Expansion and Development) in the 5th(Entertainment)

Marilyn Monroe - Same as Angelina

Brad Pitt - Cancer(Family and home) but near Leo(Spotlight) in the 8th(Extreme, shared resources, magnetism, sensuality)

Michael Jackson - Same as Obama but the 7th is about art too.

Kurt Kobain - Pisces(Illusion, addiction, artistic) in the 6th(Work and Health)

I came up with this question because my Vertex conj MC, so maybe my fate is to follow some career path.

Thoughts?!

To answer your original question, and with you referencing gandhi, he also had NN conjunct midheaven, which was more of an indication to his lifepath than the vertex conjuncting the midheaven. The only thing the vertex did there for him was open soulmate windows. It would work the same way in this sense for you, though.

You're going to be inclined in your life to meet your soulmates whenever there is a transit made by a soulmate's planets to your vertex in the house of travel/higher learning/religion. You can expect to meet the majority of them through one of these methods. I think I read yours is in Cancer (if I read that wrong, sorry), this basically means in the area of travel/ higher learning/ religion, the "feeling" you will have, or even the setting will be cancerian in nature.

Again, sorry if I came across like an ass with that "can't have a vertex in the 9th". I have Pluto transiting my 3rd house. Sometimes I come across like an asshole. smile

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Posted by TaurusinTexas
VERTEX IN THE EIGHTH HOUSE. Indicates an internal yearning for an inseparable union with and total commitment from another, come what may. This need is so intense that we may fantasise all manner of unspeakable actions and reactions if the final dream, once attained, is even threatened. The dark side is that when the reality of our partner does not fit this model (and it rarely does totally) we have a difficult time adjusting if faced with a breach of contract of any sort. Once badly hurt there is a tendency to become jaded and guarded in future relationships, thereby passing up the opportunity to explore interactions which might just fulfil out intense needs perfectly.

This is mine and in cancer to add a little more flair to it.... I wish I could say this didn't sound like me but it does....
I'm with you on this. Cancer, 8th house, same as my Venus and other 8 or so asteroids.

Come what may is so up my alley.

Very hard to deal with that threatened part of it...I might just end up in jail one day. I am very easy going until there's random innocent questions asked like "What do you think about open relationships?", at which point I just answer with "I'll kill you" and then pray it gets passed off as a joke which it isn't.

Not jaded and guarded at all (bless my lucky stars for fire placements and not much fixed energy in my chart *hides pluto singleton*).