when is a good timing for a man to have a normal relationship? or it just 'clicks' for him?

This topic was created in the Astrology forum by 199144 on Wednesday, September 6, 2017 and has 28 replies.
i just wanted to ask if is it possible to change a guy's mind about relationship?


i am usually surrounded by my friends, male friends who are singles who work a lot, party even more. They have casual chicks, flings and they live life.

But i have a crush on someone, and probably heknows about that and hmm i just dont know how other women do it.

I probably it will be nothing between us and i will must move on and walk away because he is probably not in this 'relationship' period of life.

When does that period of life start? When he will be 30? I am surrounded by guys 28-31. Only guys 31 and more want serious relationships.

For me its sad and i am kind of ashamed i let them ;friendzoned' me and not took me as i was at the 1st stage of the friendship when noone of us knew each other.


So i just want to ask when will guys want to commit ( not forever) just choose a gf and be their boyfriends for 2-3 years?

I will probably try to search in other groups of friends. I am missing a men's atmosphere around me. I am becoming very masculine and it makes me sad. I need to protect myself but i want a guy to protect me.


Why other girls have boyfriends in the same age ? And i just cant? What do they do? Maybe they are just like 'pals' like homies, best friends ?

Maybe in that age men do not want a princess - they want to have a good friend to share everything with?


Maybe my expectations of relationships are different?


Maybe they will settle in 5 years with 10 year- younger girls?


i am 27 . aries


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"I am becoming very masculine" => maybe that's why...
masculine in a way that i must organize everything by my own, independent self sufficient. maybe its that.
Posted by 199144
i just wanted to ask if is it possible to change a guy's mind about relationship?


i am usually surrounded by my friends, male friends who are singles who work a lot, party even more. They have casual chicks, flings and they live life.

But i have a crush on someone, and probably heknows about that and hmm i just dont know how other women do it.

I probably it will be nothing between us and i will must move on and walk away because he is probably not in this 'relationship' period of life.

When does that period of life start? When he will be 30? I am surrounded by guys 28-31. Only guys 31 and more want serious relationships.

For me its sad and i am kind of ashamed i let them ;friendzoned' me and not took me as i was at the 1st stage of the friendship when noone of us knew each other.


So i just want to ask when will guys want to commit ( not forever) just choose a gf and be their boyfriends for 2-3 years?

I will probably try to search in other groups of friends. I am missing a men's atmosphere around me. I am becoming very masculine and it makes me sad. I need to protect myself but i want a guy to protect me.


Why other girls have boyfriends in the same age ? And i just cant? What do they do? Maybe they are just like 'pals' like homies, best friends ?

Maybe in that age men do not want a princess - they want to have a good friend to share everything with?


Maybe my expectations of relationships are different?


Maybe they will settle in 5 years with 10 year- younger girls?


i am 27 . aries


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Posted by Distilled
Posted by AerialView

Love that song.


To answer question- men are human beings and if they like somone and person is an asset in their life- just like you and me, they're not gonna loose out.


Very very few things in life will prevent someone from loosing out.


If something is meant to be, it will be.


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First sentence of the lyrics really fits with OP ?
If he really wants you I'm sure he wouldn't wanna miss out on the opportunity to be with you.


When my bf and I started dating, he kept telling me he wasn't ready for a relationship (I never even mentioned wanting to be in a relationship with him), and I told him that's fine. 3 months later we became official. Like I said, not once did I ever bring up being official. He's the one who just changed his mind on his own. I didn't even have to convince him lol
Posted by Distilled
Posted by AerialView
Posted by Distilled
Posted by AerialView

Love that song.


To answer question- men are human beings and if they like somone and person is an asset in their life- just like you and me, they're not gonna loose out.


Very very few things in life will prevent someone from loosing out.


If something is meant to be, it will be.


First sentence of the lyrics really fits with OP ?
I only read the title part of post here.

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Why not reading all?
Nowadays people are more individualistic, idealistic and selfish, I see some men that don´t want to be retrained to do what they do now, the common knowledge is that woman retrain man´s things he likes to do most of the time. On other hand, also women very individualistic and idealistic to find perfect partner, restraining themselves.
Posted by BlindedByLove
Get out of the friend zone first


Then ask again
i am not a person who is very loud and i am not a party type. i have always been 'over screamed' by party girls people that were much more loud and noisy and they took my attention.

i have always been in the background even though i haveso much to offer.


i just do not stick nose intoother people's business . i am doing my things, i am not craving to be popular.


i know that those party girls envy me because i do my things andi am independent. boys like that but everythime something weird happen that someone takes my attention.


maybe i need to change the friends circle or environment.


maybe it is not 'that'.


people would say - why are you single, why dont you have smeone.

or my ex friends would say- why didnt we know you wanted a boyrfriend. you didnt seem like someone wanting aboyfriend, you didnt make drama about yourself.


that sentence cought my attention a few years ago and i started to question my behaviour.

maybe i do not send signals that i am interested.


inmy country usually boys pick girls. girls are on a target and boys pick chicks like they would be kings.

its not 50-50 . in other cultures boys approach girls.


in my circle or friends boys wait for girls who make drama and approach. that is why they are lazy. because they wait.


i have been living for a very long time abroad. i am not used to approach every single guy.

abroad men and me were initiating contacts , inviting each other for a coffee or a beer- in a friendly atmosphere.

beer or a coffee means nothing - its not an engagement period.


in this circle of friends i see menfeel more comfortable with women that are pals andparty like them. and drink like them.

they will party and then start to invite for beers.


not other way. like - meeting a girl inviting for a coffee and then taking to a party with friends.


i dont know why is that.

i have analysed 3 of my friends who did the same.


like they would be scared of a 'relationship label' or too immature.


for me and for my other male friends from abroad it was nothing -dating like- to invite for a beer or a coffee...


Posted by LostPisces
Nowadays people are more individualistic, idealistic and selfish, I see some men that don´t want to be retrained to do what they do now, the common knowledge is that woman retrain man´s things he likes to do most of the time. On other hand, also women very individualistic and idealistic to find perfect partner, restraining themselves.
maybe because of my studies andmy profession iam not as spontanous as i used to be.

maybe i am too serious and that is why noone takes me as a 'target' because maybe they see i am stressed or just serious.


easy, party, 'light' girls that are always around are always appreciated.

i am not saying i am sad or crying at parties lol. maybe i am too serious and it makes men feel like i do not need a relationship.
Posted by 199144
Posted by LostPisces
Nowadays people are more individualistic, idealistic and selfish, I see some men that don´t want to be retrained to do what they do now, the common knowledge is that woman retrain man´s things he likes to do most of the time. On other hand, also women very individualistic and idealistic to find perfect partner, restraining themselves.
maybe because of my studies andmy profession iam not as spontanous as i used to be.

maybe i am too serious and that is why noone takes me as a 'target' because maybe they see i am stressed or just serious.


easy, party, 'light' girls that are always around are always appreciated.

i am not saying i am sad or crying at parties lol. maybe i am too serious and it makes men feel like i do not need a relationship.
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You simply have to change environment, you dont seem to identify with that one. I personally dont like it too, thats why in my case, I never gone do those places late at night or arranged dates whatsoever. Try to search in places you identify yourself with.


Today all is online, maybe a group that does something you like or such. Whats your rising and midheaven?


PS: I´m scared of those easy, party, 'light' girls, I just want to run away, they seem like chicken.


tomorrow there is a party ofoneof my friends from that circle. and everyone - including THAT GUY will be there.


of course i will come. because its a bday party. but i have no expectations.

probably i will leave very fast.


there will be my exVirgo and other frends that i dont like.

but its okey.


i am aries with leo rising , mars venus in aquarius. moon in cap
Posted by 199144
tomorrow there is a party ofoneof my friends from that circle. and everyone - including THAT GUY will be there.


of course i will come. because its a bday party. but i have no expectations.

probably i will leave very fast.


there will be my exVirgo and other frends that i dont like.

but its okey.


i am aries with leo rising , mars venus in aquarius. moon in cap
Once more, if not identifying don´t go, go somewhere else that day and hour and that justifies it.


You dont know MC(midheaven)?


I remember some guy here saying all he wanted is venus in aqua women, I remember because my wife has venus in aqua.


Also, on topic, my wife is pretty serious and intelligent, It could not be in other way for me.
Posted by Smidge
They have each probably thought about you at least once romantically or sexually. Maybe you need to go after what you want a little more.
probably yes but those party girls or loud girls do make drama, they start taking selfies -200 likes on fb, become popular because of 'nothing'.

men like those types because they seem confident.


but confidence i s not loud.

hehe

i donot need to showmy bra in my instagram just to make myself more popular as a freelancer in my profession.

they do it.

they advertise themselves as objects for they careers like 'photographers' (fake) designers...

its so lame.


ive taken the initiative a lot of times.

when i came back from abroad i was to meet THAT GUY, we were taking about BEER after i come back. when i mentioned a beer ( like a friend) i think he got scared or idk. were afraid that I WOULD THINK ABOUT HIM IN A ROMANTIC WAY.

and he didnt want to hurt me so he just ignored me. its been 1 month he hasnt replied and didnt give me a sign. because it was dependable of him and his work.

but of course i was wrong and when a guy is kind of shady and tells you- he will inform you before the weekend ( many times) he lies and never does it.

so i am not expecting anything

Your placement reminds me of Joanne p.


Are you her?
Don´t think about those girls, the one guy you must choose will not like or go away from those type of girls. Hard to find? yes.
yes, very hard to find. there is THAT GUY that i was focusing on but he a bit ignored me so iam going to thisparty with no expectations.

i will see.


because i have been testing him before. and he was OK. really. not like love from the first sight. i had to see and observe.

but now hehe its bad.

It's both really... the guy has to be willing and once he finds a girl that adds to benefits to his life( not sex) then he will make that decision.
ok so now i know why he hesitates or sth.

because he is a friend of my ex. i didnt know they were very good friends.


2.5 year ago i started hanging out with virgo but he treated me badly.


after 2 years i met THAT GUY didnt know they were friends with virgo that long.



but i thought 2 years is a good period that i can move to another guy. and when virgo realised he said that to THAT GUY and that guy got furious started being rude to me.

then i moved away to other country.


had a contact with THAT GUY but its nothing now.


i think its a bro code.


and they/ he plays with me.


anyway its okey.




Posted by 199144
tomorrow there is a party ofoneof my friends from that circle. and everyone - including THAT GUY will be there.


of course i will come. because its a bday party. but i have no expectations.

probably i will leave very fast.


there will be my exVirgo and other frends that i dont like.

but its okey.


i am aries with leo rising , mars venus in aquarius. moon in cap
U need to turn on that leo asc switch girl. If you learn how to do so and discover that side of you - baaam !!!! Become the lady you can be
You are just picky like most Aries women. Be patient and don't appear needy but confident.
its not ok.


my virgo ex was blocking me before this man.


no idea why. he didnt want anything with me but everytime he saw each other he got yealous and acted like an asshole.


now i cam back from other country. i know that y ex had some 5year younger party easy girl . he made her popular . but when i posted on fbi cameback. he started again following me everywhere, spying me on social media.

i even put instagram stories just in purpose to see if he will be interested. he is always interested again.


that guy as well.


i donot know. i just wish everything will be fine and i will find someone. THAT guy is ok. i hope it works.
Posted by greylatern
Learn yourself and find your true self. Strengths and weaknesses.

Cultivate your strengths and come to terms with your weaknesses.


When it all comes together and hits you, just say yes and have faith in yourself.
im very intense.

and men my age are afraid of me.

that i do not use make up a lot. i have very 'visible' face, chick bones.

i get attention from older men.


i am very fiery- i attract men but they are intimidated by me.


iknow that.my high school male friends toldme this.

even though they already married( already) very shy girls.


2years ago i felt very bad when virgo pulled away. he was very intense. i think the most intense from the men i had. because he was depressive seeking for validation wanting me to give it to him. and he sucked my energy.


that was weird but anyway whenever i recoveredfrom pain and he saw mewith other man he got jealous. he got furious seeing me flirting with THAT GUY.
yesbut it was him to break up with me first. he did MIA for a month then started seeing me at parties telling if i want to go to his buddies to drink vodka.

wtf??????

its not how its supposed to be.

when i started writing to him he went another MIA but when i ignored him for couple of months he wanted my attention. then i went away for about a year for different company but he was having chicks and partying.


still spying me. i dont know if wanted to be friends or not. i didnt like that.

he dumped me. i could move on.

but i moved on to a common friend. its not my fault i liked him and he liked me back smile

and he was fast. everything was ok, communication and so one. blabla and virgo had to destroy it.


Posted by greylatern
What does your gut your intuition tell you? Then ask yourself why you think or feel that way. Then when a answer pops up in your head ask again why.


Is it fear or doubt in yourself holding you back? If you know this guy you have a idea how to talk to him by understanding his way of thinking. I assume it sonething you like about him at least I hope that is critical. To be able to undestand each other.


A question for you be honest with yourself. Did the virgo read you and realise who you really wanted? I can tell you from personal experience that is what happened. If there is such a thing as a soul mate I met mine and lost her. I settled out of self loathing and pity. I saw her again years later when I was in the car with my ex. I realise now she saw the connection and the change in me my energy level changed and I genuinely smiled like she has never seen. It poisoned the relationship. If you also want to help your virgo tell him the truth so he can move on and stop doubting himself and you both can heal. Tell him it wasn't his fault you didn't realise your heart was already taken and ask for understanding and forgiveness. Stop doubting yourself. Most of the time unless there is a "user" thing going on, real attraction is always mutual.
my intuition tells me - why the h---ell did you change your mind of me after seeing common friends like me?

why did you behave like a dog in a manger?


1st didnt want me but started spying me and observing me how i will behave and if i have a boyfriend or not.

why did our commn friends accept me for who i was ? why did my work with them on the projects was superb?


why did they want to work with me and to meet me other times?


you didnt want me 1st, you didnt accept me for who i was dumped me, was surrounded by more popular people. people who mean sth in the circle of friends.i was from different profession. you didnt want me to be there because noone knew mefirst. it would be a shame to you tohang out with me when noone knewme.


but our common rfriends did like me. and did like my work and it was a pleasurefor me and for them to work on projects with each other.


you changed your mind because you saw me leveling up.


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