What do you think might determine how you would act at a job interview, astrologically? Sun? Merc? MC? Whatever is in the tenth house? Any other suggestions?
Work Interviews and Astrology
Rising and MC, IMO. That is, their behaviour in professional setting.
Planets in 10th... IDK. I feel planets in houses show their influence overtime and not just immediately like job interview - but could be indicative of a pattern...? What do you think Happy?
Planets in 10th... IDK. I feel planets in houses show their influence overtime and not just immediately like job interview - but could be indicative of a pattern...? What do you think Happy?
@TrueFantasy and @RumiL
MC was my first thought, but you're not actually working at an interview, but selling yourself(ego=sun?) to possibly get the job. Mercury is communication, and you're there to communicate why they should hire you.
On the other hand, if it was sun and merc that were the deciding factors, I think I(cap sun and merc) should have rocked at interviews...which I really don't. I normally don't have a problem communicating...except for at interviews. If I get the job, it's because of my resume.🙂
About planets in the 10th, I think it might have something to do with it...but I'm not sure as to how, tbh. Trying to figure that out.
MC was my first thought, but you're not actually working at an interview, but selling yourself(ego=sun?) to possibly get the job. Mercury is communication, and you're there to communicate why they should hire you.
On the other hand, if it was sun and merc that were the deciding factors, I think I(cap sun and merc) should have rocked at interviews...which I really don't. I normally don't have a problem communicating...except for at interviews. If I get the job, it's because of my resume.🙂
About planets in the 10th, I think it might have something to do with it...but I'm not sure as to how, tbh. Trying to figure that out.
Posted by ParisianCappyLOL I was actually hired at a workplace once, partly due to an analysis of my signature. I found out months later. Weird and awsome!😄
i remenber when my uncle was still a chief enterprise, he was looking the astrological chart of their futur employees. CV were written by hands, he looked graphology too.
I wish all employers would go by a persons chart to determine whom to hire. I would never have to worry about employment again.😄 Well, I do have a job and I'm not that worried, but anyway...🙂
Posted by HappyCapperWhere's your mercury and what are your 3, 6, 10 houses?? Any planets in those houses?
@TrueFantasy and @RumiL
MC was my first thought, but you're not actually working at an interview, but selling yourself(ego=sun?) to possibly get the job. Mercury is communication, and you're there to communicate why they should hire you.
On the other hand, if it was sun and merc that were the deciding factors, I think I(cap sun and merc) should have rocked at interviews...which I really don't. I normally don't have a problem communicating...except for at interviews. If I get the job, it's because of my resume.🙂
About planets in the 10th, I think it might have something to do with it...but I'm not sure as to how, tbh. Trying to figure that out.
Posted by TrueFantasyOh. I never thought about that as a negative. Wherever Pluto is, you are bound to learn tons of things throughout your life, no? What do you think it does to you? Do you have it conj your MC?
I don't like having Pluto in my 10th 😢
I'm struggling to be approachable, unless that's my rising.
Any aspects to mercury? And what planets are in your 1st too?
Posted by TrueFantasyInteresting. Wonder what kind of celebrities we're talking about, because if you are an actor/actress or a performer of some other kind, you do your interviews(auditions) by showing what you can do...which would have been more beneficial for me, at least. lol
I'm not sure if this adds anything to this thread lol BUT when I look up 'celebrities' on astrotheme (because they're mostly successful) and MOST of them have Capricorn as their dominants. Cap rules 10th house and so maybe that makes them more 'plausible' for any career or job? That's my take.
So I assumed having Pluto in my 10th didn't add any benefit lol
What's your MC?
Posted by RumiLCap merc in the 8th.Posted by HappyCapperWhere's your mercury and what are your 3, 6, 10 houses?? Any planets in those houses?
@TrueFantasy and @RumiL
MC was my first thought, but you're not actually working at an interview, but selling yourself(ego=sun?) to possibly get the job. Mercury is communication, and you're there to communicate why they should hire you.
On the other hand, if it was sun and merc that were the deciding factors, I think I(cap sun and merc) should have rocked at interviews...which I really don't. I normally don't have a problem communicating...except for at interviews. If I get the job, it's because of my resume.🙂
About planets in the 10th, I think it might have something to do with it...but I'm not sure as to how, tbh. Trying to figure that out.
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Nothing in 3rd, ruled by leo.
Two non-personal planets in the 6th in scorpio.
Mars in pisces in the 10th.
Posted by RumiLNo planets in my 1st house.
Any aspects to mercury? And what planets are in your 1st too?
Only a trine to Pluto. (...and a semisquare to mars, if you count that)
Posted by ExplicitAh. Cool! So one more point for MC. I guess that would be a beneficial placement. Maybe not for all jobs, but...yeah.🙂
Interesting thread. My MC is Leo. I think it fits me well when I'm in a working environment or in a job interview.
Posted by TrueFantasyGood question. My first spontaneous thought would be that it's more pure. That would at least be consistent with what I think about the ASC.Posted by HappyCapperI have no aspects to my MC. What does that mean?Posted by TrueFantasyOh. I never thought about that as a negative. Wherever Pluto is, you are bound to learn tons of things throughout your life, no? What do you think it does to you? Do you have it conj your MC?
I don't like having Pluto in my 10th 😢
I'm struggling to be approachable, unless that's my rising.
My MC is Scorpio and Pluto is there so I thought that would be comfortable because Scorpio rules Pluto. But my Pluto is in sag and it doesn't conj my MC.
The MC is kinda like the AC but not as global if that makes sense. It's like the rising but in the work field. So I come across 'eh' to others. People have told me that and once they get to know me they realise it was completely untrue and I'm super friendly. But that's my experiences of course.
Being successful means everything to me but I don't know what job I want exactly because I want to be my own boss 😄 still at uni, learning.click to expand
I know, but I have a trouble figuring out how that goes together with the ASC in practical life, for instance. You're a cap ASC, right? Do you think that plays a part?
Cool! May I ask what you're studying?🙂
Posted by TrueFantasySo I should be hot hot hot! 😄Posted by HappyCapperThey were mostly actors and singers but there was a wide range of other careers like politicians, philosophers, psychologists etc.Posted by TrueFantasyInteresting. Wonder what kind of celebrities we're talking about, because if you are an actor/actress or a performer of some other kind, you do your interviews(auditions) by showing what you can do...which would have been more beneficial for me, at least. lol
I'm not sure if this adds anything to this thread lol BUT when I look up 'celebrities' on astrotheme (because they're mostly successful) and MOST of them have Capricorn as their dominants. Cap rules 10th house and so maybe that makes them more 'plausible' for any career or job? That's my take.
So I assumed having Pluto in my 10th didn't add any benefit lol
What's your MC?
The other dominant signs I noticed a lot were Leo and Scorpio followed by sag.click to expand
Posted by ParisianCappyI was being evaluated by a psychologist for a job, once, and actually looked him up, for fun. I seem to remember him having a fat aries stellium. But that's the only time.Posted by HappyCapperdo you look the sign of your ceo before went to an interview ?
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Posted by ExplicitWell, then, there you go! 😄Posted by HappyCapperPosted by ExplicitAh. Cool! So one more point for MC. I guess that would be a beneficial placement. Maybe not for all jobs, but...yeah.🙂
Interesting thread. My MC is Leo. I think it fits me well when I'm in a working environment or in a job interview.
Yeah, definitely not for all jobs. But I don't do "typical jobs." lol. Like I can't be in an office all day.click to expand
Posted by TrueFantasyCool! I remember spending an entire two week vacation in Italy talking to waiters in Spanish. My friends laughed behind my back. I found out when a waiter informed me. He was annoyed and I was embarrassed. 😄Posted by HappyCapperI give off the impression that I'm miserable but I'm really not lol it baffles me. I don't know if that's my cap AC playing or something but nah.Posted by TrueFantasyGood question. My first spontaneous thought would be that it's more pure. That would at least be consistent with what I think about the ASC.Posted by HappyCapperI have no aspects to my MC. What does that mean?Posted by TrueFantasyOh. I never thought about that as a negative. Wherever Pluto is, you are bound to learn tons of things throughout your life, no? What do you think it does to you? Do you have it conj your MC?
I don't like having Pluto in my 10th 😢
I'm struggling to be approachable, unless that's my rising.
My MC is Scorpio and Pluto is there so I thought that would be comfortable because Scorpio rules Pluto. But my Pluto is in sag and it doesn't conj my MC.
The MC is kinda like the AC but not as global if that makes sense. It's like the rising but in the work field. So I come across 'eh' to others. People have told me that and once they get to know me they realise it was completely untrue and I'm super friendly. But that's my experiences of course.
Being successful means everything to me but I don't know what job I want exactly because I want to be my own boss 😄 still at uni, learning.
I know, but I have a trouble figuring out how that goes together with the ASC in practical life, for instance. You're a cap ASC, right? Do you think that plays a part?
Cool! May I ask what you're studying?🙂
I'm studying French and Italian languages 😄 I read that Virgo likes to learn other languages and that seems fitting because I'm dominant Mercury! Hence the communication and communicating in other languages.
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(I'm not surprised that you study languages...and that a virgo wrote your pieces; it was quite obvious that they were edited!🙂 Soon ready with the evaluation, btw.)
Posted by TrueFantasyYeah, but I'm cooler than you, because I have a sag venus.😛 Yes, I'm kidding.🙂Posted by HappyCapperWe're both dominant Virgo, Scorpio and cap!Posted by TrueFantasySo I should be hot hot hot! 😄Posted by HappyCapperThey were mostly actors and singers but there was a wide range of other careers like politicians, philosophers, psychologists etc.Posted by TrueFantasyInteresting. Wonder what kind of celebrities we're talking about, because if you are an actor/actress or a performer of some other kind, you do your interviews(auditions) by showing what you can do...which would have been more beneficial for me, at least. lol
I'm not sure if this adds anything to this thread lol BUT when I look up 'celebrities' on astrotheme (because they're mostly successful) and MOST of them have Capricorn as their dominants. Cap rules 10th house and so maybe that makes them more 'plausible' for any career or job? That's my take.
So I assumed having Pluto in my 10th didn't add any benefit lol
What's your MC?
The other dominant signs I noticed a lot were Leo and Scorpio followed by sag.
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My mc is in cap in the 10th house and my rising is Aries. i think these both have helped me professionally. A good mix.
Posted by bkbella86Sounds like a very good combo!🙂
My mc is in cap in the 10th house and my rising is Aries. i think these both have helped me professionally. A good mix.
Posted by TrueFantasyDamn it! I didn't know that. That means you're cooler than I am.😭Posted by HappyCapperMy Leo Venus is generous enough to allow you to be cooler than me 😆Posted by TrueFantasyYeah, but I'm cooler than you, because I have a sag venus.😛 Yes, I'm kidding.🙂Posted by HappyCapperWe're both dominant Virgo, Scorpio and cap!Posted by TrueFantasySo I should be hot hot hot! 😄Posted by HappyCapperThey were mostly actors and singers but there was a wide range of other careers like politicians, philosophers, psychologists etc.Posted by TrueFantasyInteresting. Wonder what kind of celebrities we're talking about, because if you are an actor/actress or a performer of some other kind, you do your interviews(auditions) by showing what you can do...which would have been more beneficial for me, at least. lol
I'm not sure if this adds anything to this thread lol BUT when I look up 'celebrities' on astrotheme (because they're mostly successful) and MOST of them have Capricorn as their dominants. Cap rules 10th house and so maybe that makes them more 'plausible' for any career or job? That's my take.
So I assumed having Pluto in my 10th didn't add any benefit lol
What's your MC?
The other dominant signs I noticed a lot were Leo and Scorpio followed by sag.
Wahoo for fire Venus!
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But yay for fire venuses! 😄
Posted by HappyCapperSince an interview is basically - a new meeting, the ASC - it's definitely the first thing they'd see. In its current state that is - cause it's that side of you that changes the most (a change that's more visible on the outside - at least). That shows how you'll act and how they'll perceive you. Mercury shows the way you'll talk with the interviewer, while the MC - shows how you'll envision yourself - in that company. The MC, actually, won't be that visible - until you manage to get more comfortable with that place (starting with the period of trial - for example). And same goes for the Sun. The Moon though, that will show - even before doing the interview. Since that's your emotional state, and an interview - can have some impact on that, be it - some level of excitement, anxiety or whatever... 🙂
What do you think might determine how you would act at a job interview, astrologically? Sun? Merc? MC? Whatever is in the tenth house? Any other suggestions?
Posted by nevesThank you for your input!🙂Posted by HappyCapperSince an interview is basically - a new meeting, the ASC - it's definitely the first thing they'd see. In its current state that is - cause it's that side of you that changes the most (a change that's more visible on the outside - at least). That shows how you'll act and how they'll perceive you. Mercury shows the way you'll talk with the interviewer, while the MC - shows how you'll envision yourself - in that company. The MC, actually, won't be that visible - until you manage to get more comfortable with that place (starting with the period of trial - for example). And same goes for the Sun. The Moon though, that will show - even before doing the interview. Since that's your emotional state, and an interview - can have some impact on that, be it - some level of excitement, anxiety or whatever... 🙂
What do you think might determine how you would act at a job interview, astrologically? Sun? Merc? MC? Whatever is in the tenth house? Any other suggestions?
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That sounds very logical, although I doubt I come across as a Gemini when on interviews. If I were to guess, it would be the MC for me, and since my only placement in aqua or in the 11th house is MC, I have a really hard time handling it. This is just my own theory and it's only based on my own experience and my own chart. As I said, what you wrote sounds really logical, so i don't know how to think right now.
I really need to thing about this! Thank you!🙂
Posted by HappyCapperWhat aspects do you have with the ASC? Cause those too - have their share of influence.Posted by nevesThank you for your input!🙂Posted by HappyCapperSince an interview is basically - a new meeting, the ASC - it's definitely the first thing they'd see. In its current state that is - cause it's that side of you that changes the most (a change that's more visible on the outside - at least). That shows how you'll act and how they'll perceive you. Mercury shows the way you'll talk with the interviewer, while the MC - shows how you'll envision yourself - in that company. The MC, actually, won't be that visible - until you manage to get more comfortable with that place (starting with the period of trial - for example). And same goes for the Sun. The Moon though, that will show - even before doing the interview. Since that's your emotional state, and an interview - can have some impact on that, be it - some level of excitement, anxiety or whatever... 🙂
What do you think might determine how you would act at a job interview, astrologically? Sun? Merc? MC? Whatever is in the tenth house? Any other suggestions?
That sounds very logical, although I doubt I come across as a Gemini when on interviews. If I were to guess, it would be the MC for me, and since my only placement in aqua or in the 11th house is MC, I have a really hard time handling it. This is just my own theory and it's only based on my own experience and my own chart. As I said, what you wrote sounds really logical, so i don't know how to think right now.
I really need to thing about this! Thank you!🙂
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So... you're stubborn and opinionated - acting as if you don't give a fuck, though - in reality you care to much what people think (in this case the one holding the interview) and that can drive you bonkers. You might even lash out at the one in question - if he happens to push the wrong buttons (or simply leave - if you feel like you've reached that point - and evasive action - based on past experiences)?
Both signs are mental and sociable - though, in different ways. Since one is fixed and the other is mutable, one has a dual nature (supposedly two faced - quite hard to read) - while the other can be obsessed with its individuality - even though, quite ironically - it has this bad habit - of talking in the name of others (as if one is representative for a group of people - for a gender, a generation and so on...). Above would be the Aquarius way. 🙂
@neves
Jupiter square MC
Saturn square MC
Pluto trine MC
(Uranus square MC. I put it within parenthesis because the orb is wide)
What you describe is sadly not very far from the truth. I seldom lash out or leave, but I can get pissed and answer questions in a way that I know very well I shouldn't...or I don't and get so distracted because I don't so that I get really really weird. And this is one of the few times I act like this in my life - when I feel someone is there to judge me and my actions. I'm lucky to ever have had a job in my life.
*Edit: Sorry. It should have been Uranus trine MC.
Jupiter square MC
Saturn square MC
Pluto trine MC
(Uranus square MC. I put it within parenthesis because the orb is wide)
What you describe is sadly not very far from the truth. I seldom lash out or leave, but I can get pissed and answer questions in a way that I know very well I shouldn't...or I don't and get so distracted because I don't so that I get really really weird. And this is one of the few times I act like this in my life - when I feel someone is there to judge me and my actions. I'm lucky to ever have had a job in my life.
*Edit: Sorry. It should have been Uranus trine MC.
Posted by RyokoThat's interesting. And when you're at home, It sounds like moon should play a role too.
First time meetings are always the rising sign unless it's a phone interview in which case it's at your house and you're more comfortable there so maybe your sun sign n that situation.
I actually had a phone interview while on vacation, once. I was in my hotel room and that interview is one of the worst I've ever experienced. I had previously informed them that English wasn't a problem, but during that interview I could hardly make myself understood. It was horrible. lol
Well, none of these have any control over me. All three interviews I've had landed me the jobs! I am a GS Government employee (29 years of civil service).
🤗 cyber hug!
Love,
Eva
🤗 cyber hug!
Love,
Eva
Posted by EvatheDivaThanks!🙂
Well, none of these have any control over me. All three interviews I've had landed me the jobs! I am a GS Government employee (29 years of civil service).
🤗 cyber hug!
Love,
Eva
May I ask, what is it specifically that has no control over you? Sun? Merc? MC? ASC? All of the above?
Congratulations on your success!🙂
Posted by HappyCapperI see. The thing is... the MC reflects the way we feel in relation to our public image - while the ASC - reflects our personal image (our Persona/outer-ego/outer-shell). Though, the ASC acts as a gateway - so, all the people we might encounter - have to go through that first, since it also reflects our sense of self-control (how we manage our personal image and how we act in relation to other). And by the looks of it - your MC trumps your ASC, you seem to loose control over your self (ASC) - while dealing with a situation that's tied to your public image. Could be the influence of your Pluto (that trine shows a free flow between the two - which means - you can get really intense/fired-up - quite quickly while lacking a barrier), cause the square with Saturn - can imply some level of anxiety (for not being in control) - while your square with Jupiter - can make you feel unappreciated/undervalued.
@neves
Jupiter square MC
Saturn square MC
Pluto trine MC
(Uranus square MC. I put it within parenthesis because the orb is wide)
What you describe is sadly not very far from the truth. I seldom lash out or leave, but I can get pissed and answer questions in a way that I know very well I shouldn't...or I don't and get so distracted because I don't so that I get really really weird. And this is one of the few times I act like this in my life - when I feel someone is there to judge me and my actions. I'm lucky to ever have had a job in my life.
Posted by nevesI wish I could say that you're wrong. Sigh. Good work describing me! Do you, by any chance, know of a way to solve this conundrum astrologically?Posted by HappyCapperI see. The thing is... the MC reflects the way we feel in relation to our public image - while the ASC - reflects our personal image (our Persona/outer-ego/outer-shell). Though, the ASC acts as a gateway - so, all the people we might encounter - have to go through that first, since it also reflects our sense of self-control (how we manage our personal image and how we act in relation to other). And by the looks of it - your MC trumps your ASC, you seem to loose control over your self (ASC) - while dealing with a situation that's tied to your public image. Could be the influence of your Pluto (that trine shows a free flow between the two - which means - you can get really intense/fired-up - quite quickly while lacking a barrier), cause the square with Saturn - can imply some level of anxiety (for not being in control) - while your square with Jupiter - can make you feel unappreciated/undervalued.
@neves
Jupiter square MC
Saturn square MC
Pluto trine MC
(Uranus square MC. I put it within parenthesis because the orb is wide)
What you describe is sadly not very far from the truth. I seldom lash out or leave, but I can get pissed and answer questions in a way that I know very well I shouldn't...or I don't and get so distracted because I don't so that I get really really weird. And this is one of the few times I act like this in my life - when I feel someone is there to judge me and my actions. I'm lucky to ever have had a job in my life.
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Posted by RyokoToo comfortable? lolPosted by HappyCapperlol I had a phone interview once and the interviewer could tell i didn't care if I got the job or not. I was so comfy I didn't bother putting up my usual professional front. I really wasn't that interested in that job though.Posted by RyokoThat's interesting. And when you're at home, It sounds like moon should play a role too.
First time meetings are always the rising sign unless it's a phone interview in which case it's at your house and you're more comfortable there so maybe your sun sign n that situation.
I actually had a phone interview while on vacation, once. I was in my hotel room and that interview is one of the worst I've ever experienced. I had previously informed them that English wasn't a problem, but during that interview I could hardly make myself understood. It was horrible. lol
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Must say that telephone interviews suit me even less than on-site interviews. I like to be able to read facial expressions and body language.
Posted by RyokoYes! I need that in order to stand even a tad of a chance. It's just that even though I feel I can often read people, the interview situation still makes me make the wrong decisions anyway, so... LOLPosted by HappyCapperMe too. I need those in person cues to pick up on how the interviewer feels about me.Posted by RyokoToo comfortable? lolPosted by HappyCapperlol I had a phone interview once and the interviewer could tell i didn't care if I got the job or not. I was so comfy I didn't bother putting up my usual professional front. I really wasn't that interested in that job though.Posted by RyokoThat's interesting. And when you're at home, It sounds like moon should play a role too.
First time meetings are always the rising sign unless it's a phone interview in which case it's at your house and you're more comfortable there so maybe your sun sign n that situation.
I actually had a phone interview while on vacation, once. I was in my hotel room and that interview is one of the worst I've ever experienced. I had previously informed them that English wasn't a problem, but during that interview I could hardly make myself understood. It was horrible. lol
Must say that telephone interviews suit me even less than on-site interviews. I like to be able to read facial expressions and body language.
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@HappyCapper The answer is easy but, well... can't say the same about the practice. 🙂
First i would like to add that - challenging aspects can feel like a curse, but their gift is far more valuable/meaningful - than the one that comes with easy aspects. For example: let's say we have an individual - who was born in a rich family, and his/her parents spoiled him/her - with expensive gifts or they used their connections to help him/her in any situation - thus, as long as his parents could be there for him - his life was kinda care free. Well, that would be the gift of a so called easy/positive aspect... an easy flow. Though, you're probbaly already aware of the curse that comes with that, as in - she/he never learned how to deal with challenges on her/his own... and that will take a big toll on her/him latter - when she/he with the loose of ones parents. At first, she/he might loose the inherited fortune - because she/he never developed her/his sense of value (she/he might know very little about her/his real value - and same goes for the value of things - which comes from challenges and handwork), latter - one might realize that - she/he is not prepared for the real world and all the hardships that come with that - since one is used to a life style were everything was handed to her/him on a silver platter. That's a situation that could end with suicide - or maybe a life where one becomes homeless beggar - quite skilled at it too (begging) - cause that's how he/she obtained most things - till the death of ones benefactors. Though, it's just an example (quite extreme) meant to prove a point - an example that could describe a positive aspect - like Trines (cause with sextiles it's a bit different - since the processes is not automatic) .
With hard aspects like a Square - things are challenging at first and keep on being challenging - till one becomes good at that situation he's dealing with... cause Squares - bare the gift of mastery. Those are that people that can change the world - the ones that become famous for the right reasons (skill), those are the people that know how to value life - and also valued by a majority. It's kinda like the saying: "Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day (a trine). Teach a man to fish, and you feed him for a lifetime (a square)."
Jupiter square MC - shows potential for growth, but it's growth earned the hard way.
Saturn square MC - can help you achieve stability - can help you build a strong foundation as far career goes - but again, it's something you can only learn the hard way.
First i would like to add that - challenging aspects can feel like a curse, but their gift is far more valuable/meaningful - than the one that comes with easy aspects. For example: let's say we have an individual - who was born in a rich family, and his/her parents spoiled him/her - with expensive gifts or they used their connections to help him/her in any situation - thus, as long as his parents could be there for him - his life was kinda care free. Well, that would be the gift of a so called easy/positive aspect... an easy flow. Though, you're probbaly already aware of the curse that comes with that, as in - she/he never learned how to deal with challenges on her/his own... and that will take a big toll on her/him latter - when she/he with the loose of ones parents. At first, she/he might loose the inherited fortune - because she/he never developed her/his sense of value (she/he might know very little about her/his real value - and same goes for the value of things - which comes from challenges and handwork), latter - one might realize that - she/he is not prepared for the real world and all the hardships that come with that - since one is used to a life style were everything was handed to her/him on a silver platter. That's a situation that could end with suicide - or maybe a life where one becomes homeless beggar - quite skilled at it too (begging) - cause that's how he/she obtained most things - till the death of ones benefactors. Though, it's just an example (quite extreme) meant to prove a point - an example that could describe a positive aspect - like Trines (cause with sextiles it's a bit different - since the processes is not automatic) .
With hard aspects like a Square - things are challenging at first and keep on being challenging - till one becomes good at that situation he's dealing with... cause Squares - bare the gift of mastery. Those are that people that can change the world - the ones that become famous for the right reasons (skill), those are the people that know how to value life - and also valued by a majority. It's kinda like the saying: "Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day (a trine). Teach a man to fish, and you feed him for a lifetime (a square)."
Jupiter square MC - shows potential for growth, but it's growth earned the hard way.
Saturn square MC - can help you achieve stability - can help you build a strong foundation as far career goes - but again, it's something you can only learn the hard way.
@neves
Thank you very much!🙂
My thirteen squares thank you.😏 (although three of them are Chiron squares that I don't even notice)
Problem with these two aspects is that I don't get to train a lot. When I'm actually in a work place, I seldom have a problem. In fact, a few of the jobs I've gotten have been through recommendations from former employers. So the only time I get to train is really at those interviews...
Omg! Writing this, I just realized that there is one more situation that leaves me dealing with this. Oh dear. Good that I realized it now, though, so that I can ponder it!
So, thank you again! I really appreciate it!🙂
Thank you very much!🙂
My thirteen squares thank you.😏 (although three of them are Chiron squares that I don't even notice)
Problem with these two aspects is that I don't get to train a lot. When I'm actually in a work place, I seldom have a problem. In fact, a few of the jobs I've gotten have been through recommendations from former employers. So the only time I get to train is really at those interviews...
Omg! Writing this, I just realized that there is one more situation that leaves me dealing with this. Oh dear. Good that I realized it now, though, so that I can ponder it!
So, thank you again! I really appreciate it!🙂
In both cases you will be able to rise - but it's a bit like a war, so try not to celebrate a won battle - as if you won the actual war (as if you've become a master). Cause whit each realization - you'll be able to see the progress - but won't be long till you'll bump into a wall - and a new challenge will appear (that's how it goes with Squares). It's a matter of persistence - cause eventually, you will reach a point - where you'll feel prepared for everything life throws as you (the part that's linked to MC - as in: your public image - or your career) and failure won't bother you anymore - cause you'll be able to understand (from actual experience - not just theory) - that even failure is a common part of life... it's just another step forward.
So, yeah... there's no miracle cure - no easy way up. Just the usual stuff, the stuff - we see even in commercials this days:
You're welcome. 🙂
So, yeah... there's no miracle cure - no easy way up. Just the usual stuff, the stuff - we see even in commercials this days:
You're welcome. 🙂
Posted by nevesWith Pluto and Saturn dominating my chart and my thirteen squares, I know better than to call victory...ever.🙂
In both cases you will be able to rise - but it's a bit like a war, so try not to celebrate a won battle - as if you won the actual war (as if you've become a master). Cause whit each realization - you'll be able to see the progress - but won't be long till you'll bump into a wall - and a new challenge will appear (that's how it goes with Squares). It's a matter of persistence - cause eventually, you will reach a point - where you'll feel prepared for everything life throws as you (the part that's linked to MC - as in: your public image - or your career) and failure won't bother you anymore - cause you'll be able to understand (from actual experience - not just theory) - that even failure is a common part of life... it's just another step forward.
So, yeah... there's no miracle cure - no easy way up. Just the usual stuff, the stuff - we see even in commercials this days:
You're welcome. 🙂
I doubt I will ever fully come to grips with my moon square Pluto and my Venus square Pluto...among other aspects, but those, I feel, are the toughies.
Fact is, that I'm so used to adversity that when/if it doesn't appear, it feels weird. It's what keeps me ever on my toes...and I do feel it has made/is making me stronger.
And it gives me something to do...always - I'm never bored.🙂
Thank youuu!🙂
Since you seem to have some interest in writing - you could write a book with that tittle: The thirteen squares ^^
Yeah, those two can be pretty bothersome at times. And i'm saying this from experience - cause i also have Venus square Pluto, while the Moon is in Opposition with Pluto.
Never say never... or that expectation - can imply a self-fulfilling prophecy. 🙂
Yeah, those two can be pretty bothersome at times. And i'm saying this from experience - cause i also have Venus square Pluto, while the Moon is in Opposition with Pluto.
Never say never... or that expectation - can imply a self-fulfilling prophecy. 🙂
Posted by nevesThat title would be a pretty darn good title for an autobiography! 😄
Since you seem to have some interest in writing - you could write a book with that tittle: The thirteen squares ^^
Yeah, those two can be pretty bothersome at times. And i'm saying this from experience - cause i also have Venus square Pluto, while the Moon is in Opposition with Pluto.
Never say never... or that expectation - can imply a self-fulfilling prophecy. 🙂
Oh. Sorry to hear that...unless you love them...🙂 Must say I like them in a way, but it's like the more I learn, the more I understand that there is even more that I need to learn...if you see what I mean. There's just so much to learn it's ridiculous. Endless.
True. Don't worry, I never give up. Ever.🙂
Posted by HappyCapper"All of the above" and thanks! 🤗 cyber hug!Posted by EvatheDivaThanks!🙂
Well, none of these have any control over me. All three interviews I've had landed me the jobs! I am a GS Government employee (29 years of civil service).
🤗 cyber hug!
Love,
Eva
May I ask, what is it specifically that has no control over you? Sun? Merc? MC? ASC? All of the above?
Congratulations on your success!🙂
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Love,
Eva
Posted by HappyCapperSure, i suppose... you could use each of those 13 aspects as an inspiration, since hard aspects like squares - can be linked to events - that had a big impact on our lives (the kind - which lead to change of character and growth). Those Squares might bare a strong emotional signature... thus, each of them - should be able to remind you of your struggles - and the steps you made forward. It's the stuff you never forget.
That title would be a pretty darn good title for an autobiography! 😄
Oh. Sorry to hear that...unless you love them...🙂 Must say I like them in a way, but it's like the more I learn, the more I understand that there is even more that I need to learn...if you see what I mean. There's just so much to learn it's ridiculous. Endless.
True. Don't worry, I never give up. Ever.🙂
There's nothing to be sorry about. 🙂 As mentioned above - there's ups and downs to, well... everything. After all - we live in a world of light, darkness and everything in between (at least - on the surface). There's people out there with different forms of Autism - and their human condition might look bad from exterior (by comparison) - but they're just different. Their brain is wired differently. And that difference - also comes with some gifts (artistic gifts - for example, as it's the case with certain types of autism). Some of them - seem to have an enhanced perception of our world and the way the perceive the sound, the colors or even the mathematical side of our Universe, a natal gift - which helps them learn and create artistic masterpieces - quite easily (who knows - maybe every known musical genius - is autistic to some extent). And yet, that's where most people are more limited (they might be able to apprise the final product and replicate it through exercise - but they lack a creative potential) - though, gifted in ways where an autistic individual might struggle (the social side - for example).
Well, maybe Pluto doesn't make you a genius, but it's somehow similar - with Pluto related themes (the dark side of life is more accessible or something like that). Or maybe we're just fools rushing in - where angels fear to tread... One thing is for sure, it might be easier to understand that - both light and darkness are part of this life...
With Gemini ASC, Mercury is your chart ruler - which makes you a mental creature to some extent - despite of your rocky underlayer (your Cap Sun). That might explain your thirst for for knowledge. 🙂
Though, it's not endless... cause time is ticking away, and obviously - it's more about the journey. 🙂
@neves
Sorry about my late reply! I just needed to ponder your post.
As the Capricorn I am, I tended to warn one friend in particular about all kinds of things that he does that seem kind of reckless to me - things that are bound to bite him in the behind. But then I realized that he's a leo. If I would have done what he does, my behind would have been so bitten that it might never have recovered, but he gets away with it. All the friggin time, so I have realized that I might as well shut up. Yes, I'm generalizing and stereotyping - just trying to get my point through.🙂
I think we learn what we need to learn. Maybe a person with only trines and with their Saturn and Pluto hiding in a corner of their chart just didn't need those types of lessons? But I'm pretty sure they are struggling with other things - things that we(for instance) mightn't understand. And I bet those things are just as hard to deal with for them as our Pluto lessons are for us. We are just equipped to deal with different things.
I don't even know your sun, moon or rising signs. May I?
Sorry about my late reply! I just needed to ponder your post.
As the Capricorn I am, I tended to warn one friend in particular about all kinds of things that he does that seem kind of reckless to me - things that are bound to bite him in the behind. But then I realized that he's a leo. If I would have done what he does, my behind would have been so bitten that it might never have recovered, but he gets away with it. All the friggin time, so I have realized that I might as well shut up. Yes, I'm generalizing and stereotyping - just trying to get my point through.🙂
I think we learn what we need to learn. Maybe a person with only trines and with their Saturn and Pluto hiding in a corner of their chart just didn't need those types of lessons? But I'm pretty sure they are struggling with other things - things that we(for instance) mightn't understand. And I bet those things are just as hard to deal with for them as our Pluto lessons are for us. We are just equipped to deal with different things.
I don't even know your sun, moon or rising signs. May I?
Posted by quarius_xyOoo! How do you think it affects you, more specifically?
I have uranus in the 10th so anything goes.
You mean - you can't replicate his blind confidence - without getting hurt? 🙂
We learn what we learn... some reach their limit on this earth - while they're barely starting to learn something. In the grand scheme of things... it doesn't seem to be about that (as history - goes to prove), about lessons... but experience (experiencing all the possible outcomes... maybe...). We might have our purpose (again - in the grand scheme of things), but it's not necessarily the one we envision... or maybe it's hard to see our real purpose - while blinded by our assumed identities - as inspired by our society (our human condition - our indoctrination). I mean, do you know any universal law - that's tied to some type of culture? Cause i don't... that's a human thing.
This is one of the gifts that comes with Pluto... it can show you that - everybody has a cross to carry.
We learn what we learn... some reach their limit on this earth - while they're barely starting to learn something. In the grand scheme of things... it doesn't seem to be about that (as history - goes to prove), about lessons... but experience (experiencing all the possible outcomes... maybe...). We might have our purpose (again - in the grand scheme of things), but it's not necessarily the one we envision... or maybe it's hard to see our real purpose - while blinded by our assumed identities - as inspired by our society (our human condition - our indoctrination). I mean, do you know any universal law - that's tied to some type of culture? Cause i don't... that's a human thing.
This is one of the gifts that comes with Pluto... it can show you that - everybody has a cross to carry.
Posted by HappyCapperI'd imagine you'd act like a little b****
What do you think might determine how you would act at a job interview, astrologically? Sun? Merc? MC? Whatever is in the tenth house? Any other suggestions?
Posted by nevesLast month, he handed his car keys to a complete stranger so they could check if the engine was running while he was doing some fine adjustment. I could never ever get away with that. My car would be goooone.😄
You mean - you can't replicate his blind confidence - without getting hurt? 🙂
We learn what we learn... some reach their limit on this earth - while they're barely starting to learn something. In the grand scheme of things... it doesn't seem to be about that (as history - goes to prove), about lessons... but experience (experiencing all the possible outcomes... maybe...). We might have our purpose (again - in the grand scheme of things), but it's not necessarily the one we envision... or maybe it's hard to see our real purpose - while blinded by our assumed identities - as inspired by our society (our human condition - our indoctrination). I mean, do you know any universal law - that's tied to some type of culture? Cause i don't... that's a human thing.
This is one of the gifts that comes with Pluto... it can show you that - everybody has a cross to carry.
Agreed! It's difficult with life purposes. Maybe there isn't one at all? Idk. All I know is that I seem to change roads every time I'm hit really hard. But the over all goal has always been the same. Is it what I should strive for? I have no idea - all we can do, imo, is to try the best we can to find our place in the world, crosses and all.🙂
Posted by andstrollbotSeems to be in my case, anyway.🙂
the mc for sure
i am not as tough skinned for interviews - cancer mc
So what do you do? What happens?
Posted by starwarsMaybe you don't need to?🙂
my mc in sag
I can't put a wig on and act formal
How do you think you handle interviews?
Posted by bricklemarkNot like a b**** per se, but pretty badly, yes.Posted by HappyCapperI'd imagine you'd act like a little b****
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Last month, he handed his car keys to a complete stranger so they could check if the engine was running while he was doing some fine adjustment. I could never ever get away with that. My car would be goooone.😄
Agreed! It's difficult with life purposes. Maybe there isn't one at all? Idk. All I know is that I seem to change roads every time I'm hit really hard. But the over all goal has always been the same. Is it what I should strive for? I have no idea - all we can do, imo, is to try the best we can to find our place in the world, crosses and all.🙂
Depends, maybe he's a good judge of character. 🙂
It's difficult - with the ones we envision, and... i suppose, that's why it can feel like - there is no purpose (cause it's to different from what we imaged - worlds apart even). Goes to prove that - we can't see into the future... and yet, for some reason - we can't help trying... to guess. So, we envision something that looks like our future - and it might even take some shapes - which makes us feel like we're heading in the right direction, but then... we reach a point where it all falls apart - as if we spent all that time building a castle of sand. Even the gained experience - is not that useful anymore - cause we changed... our path through life has changed. Well... at least the professional experience it's not useful - cause the human part (emotional growth and maybe some wisdom - the kind that comes with age) - that evolution does show.
Though, it's not - as if life becomes easier. In a way... it's a lot like one of those video games (an RPG for example) - where you start from level 1 and at that level - there's an abundance of enriching experiences with every step you make, but the more you advance in levels (as you get more familiar with the world around you and a certain set of skills) - the more you realize that the challenges you're bound to face - are always couple of levels above you. And obviously... once you reached level 45 you don't find level 30 stuff that entertaining anymore (it's simply - to easy at that point, since it's something you're quite familiar with - something that doesn't pose any challenge anymore - like going shopping). While the stuff that does poses a challenge - that might seem like it's 10 levels above you at times (level 55... for example: you loose your house in a flood - and your insurance doesn't cover that).
Once again you're up for a new beginning - and who knows... maybe this time you won't end-up with another castle of sand, not when there's others options like - a house of cards (that could be fun - if you like playing cards... like the Jack of Spades and the Joker). ^^ Sure, the game might be fun and intense (with all its ups and downs - it's what adds intensity), but... same as with a video game... we're not really one with our own character. Just layers upon layers...
As conscious beings - we should be capable to understand our purpose through self-reflection, but we can only go so far... I mean, we can shade some light on our past - which can helps us understand - how we happen to fit in that past image of ourselves and what we gained from that experience but - beyond the present time... beyond what we know so far - we also dabble with the unknown - with conceptual variables and countless possibilities... We might see some potential - but same can't be said about the way things are about to unfold (how it all manifests in the real world). And yet, as humans we might feel compelled to chose destinations (future purposes), might even seem - like we know where we're going (generally speaking, as it's the case with - the bigger picture). Apparently, a purposeless life - seems to confuse people. Some, might feel like the passengers of a lost ship - that's drifting aimlessly in a vast ocean - with no land in sight. While with a purpose - there's room for evolution... That's how humanity reached so far - starting from mental concepts. That's also - why our past if filled with so many dreadful mistakes - cause those were just ideas (conceptual purposes), ideas that turned into strong believes - cause as history goes to proves... for most part - they didn't seem to know what they were doing. And that's something that still persists (it's still a part of human nature), we still persevere through mistakes - while we're trying (or struggling) to understand - where we fit in this world.
We like to believe - that we're conscious beings... but it's more accurate to say - that we're beings capable of consciousness. Cause for most part... even humans are mainly driven by unconscious tendencies - by the way we programed our unconscious mind - through repetition, or though experiences - that happen to have a defining impact on our state of being. You know, those experiences with a strong emotional signature - cause the rest... are filled with all the colors of the rainbow (they might last for a brief moment - till they'll fade away...).
Boston line... everything that manifests in this word, everything that becomes a part of this existence - has a purpose. Let's say - you have this lifeless object around you - like a coffee mug. Now, the existence of that coffer mug - doesn't seem to make much difference - and yet... if you're to imagine it away (what your life would be - without that coffee mug), you might feel like a puzzle piece from your life is missing. And that's just it... your life would have been somehow different without that manifestation of existence. Which goes to prove that - even a simple object - can make a difference, even that has a purpose. A human being might imply a bigger difference, and yet - this Universe can still exist - even without characters that had a bigger impact on this world - like Mozart,Newton,Gandhi and so on. Would be just somehow different. Even expressed words - can make a difference.
We like to believe - that we're conscious beings... but it's more accurate to say - that we're beings capable of consciousness. Cause for most part... even humans are mainly driven by unconscious tendencies - by the way we programed our unconscious mind - through repetition, or though experiences - that happen to have a defining impact on our state of being. You know, those experiences with a strong emotional signature - cause the rest... are filled with all the colors of the rainbow (they might last for a brief moment - till they'll fade away...).
Boston line... everything that manifests in this word, everything that becomes a part of this existence - has a purpose. Let's say - you have this lifeless object around you - like a coffee mug. Now, the existence of that coffer mug - doesn't seem to make much difference - and yet... if you're to imagine it away (what your life would be - without that coffee mug), you might feel like a puzzle piece from your life is missing. And that's just it... your life would have been somehow different without that manifestation of existence. Which goes to prove that - even a simple object - can make a difference, even that has a purpose. A human being might imply a bigger difference, and yet - this Universe can still exist - even without characters that had a bigger impact on this world - like Mozart,Newton,Gandhi and so on. Would be just somehow different. Even expressed words - can make a difference.
@neves
Professional or personal experiences are always useful, imo. Whether we burn bridges or build onto them, I think the experience alone make us move forward, like Pluto teaches.
"the challenges you're bound to face - are always couple of levels above you."
Absolutely! Adversities on "our own levels" are no challenges - just everyday life.
"Apparently, a purposeless life - seems to confuse people."
Yes, it does seem people need something to hold on to along those lines, even if that means having to make things up. If you don't see the picture way far ahead, then set the goal a little bit closer, making it a bit more comprehensible...at least to the point of avoiding panic. Imo.
Mistakes are necessary, imo. Not saying that one should make mistakes on purpose, but that the mistakes we make are a very large part of our learning experiences, in learning our lessons.
I believe we are conscious beings...to some extent - beings capable of consciousness, like you say. I don't think that some experiences fade away, though. To the very least, they help confirm what we feel we already learnt.
I agree - everything makes a difference! Everything!
Professional or personal experiences are always useful, imo. Whether we burn bridges or build onto them, I think the experience alone make us move forward, like Pluto teaches.
"the challenges you're bound to face - are always couple of levels above you."
Absolutely! Adversities on "our own levels" are no challenges - just everyday life.
"Apparently, a purposeless life - seems to confuse people."
Yes, it does seem people need something to hold on to along those lines, even if that means having to make things up. If you don't see the picture way far ahead, then set the goal a little bit closer, making it a bit more comprehensible...at least to the point of avoiding panic. Imo.
Mistakes are necessary, imo. Not saying that one should make mistakes on purpose, but that the mistakes we make are a very large part of our learning experiences, in learning our lessons.
I believe we are conscious beings...to some extent - beings capable of consciousness, like you say. I don't think that some experiences fade away, though. To the very least, they help confirm what we feel we already learnt.
I agree - everything makes a difference! Everything!
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