Work Relationships?
This topic was created in the Astrology forum by sultrykitty on Friday, February 5, 2016 and has 26 replies.
No, it's not what you think, lol.
This is a real astrological question that I've been wondering about for a while. Maybe someone has some insight?
You can have synastry with people, animals, and so forth. You can also create composite charts with lovers, friends, people you're close enough to regularly interact with. And the composite chart is actually the horoscope of the relationship, not the people in it. It's the relationship's own profile. Right?
So I'm conscious of the fact that oftentimes we get into situations or we become involved in events that have some sort of impact on our lives based on our transits and progressions.
But can the same thing happen with an event like a job? I don't mean with transits but can we have synastry or some kind of composite effect with a place of employment? Not the job in and of itself, but can the location, the job, and the people you work with create it's own "chart" that interacts with your chart?
If anyone wants to comment, I'll explain why I'm asking in future posts.
I know the concept seems a little muddy in the explanation but I'm just wondering if there's any astrological foundation for it.
This is a real astrological question that I've been wondering about for a while. Maybe someone has some insight?
You can have synastry with people, animals, and so forth. You can also create composite charts with lovers, friends, people you're close enough to regularly interact with. And the composite chart is actually the horoscope of the relationship, not the people in it. It's the relationship's own profile. Right?
So I'm conscious of the fact that oftentimes we get into situations or we become involved in events that have some sort of impact on our lives based on our transits and progressions.
But can the same thing happen with an event like a job? I don't mean with transits but can we have synastry or some kind of composite effect with a place of employment? Not the job in and of itself, but can the location, the job, and the people you work with create it's own "chart" that interacts with your chart?
If anyone wants to comment, I'll explain why I'm asking in future posts.
I know the concept seems a little muddy in the explanation but I'm just wondering if there's any astrological foundation for it.
Posted by Koniucha
Well, events do have charts. Like 9-11, etc.
But I don't know what you mean? Like synastry with a job?
Yeah, like that.
Posted by tiziani
Yeah that is Mundane Astrology.
I found it helps to know horary astrology because the ideas behind them are similar but I realise not a lot of people have time for that.
I don't think I have enough background to be able to follow what I look up.
Posted by ManilaVicePosted by ImarollinPosted by ManilaVice
MC persona charts
Is this the same as the 9 personas? ... Am I even close to what you're talking about?
This is a great question.
So what i gather is, Can you use a date and punch in the details for time and place and create a synnestry chart (for you and a specific time)? Or is that what you meant?
yes! lolclick to expand
That's not really it. I'll explain why in a new post.
So I had been working in a decent job for several years. It wasn't something I wanted to do but was in my field of training so I managed to stick with it because there wasn't anything in my field available at the time.
At one point, an opportunity presented itself almost by pure luck. It was something that I've always wanted to do and offered all the challenges and rewards I had hoped for.
I sent my resume, and 3 interviews and 3 weeks later I had the job.
I felt at home immediately. I clocked with just about everyone there and was feeling ecstatic.
Without going into great detail, I left under duress a little over a year later. I'm now working at another company, still in my field and happy but not ecstatic like there.
What's strange is that every day at that place felt like I was living in an alternate universe. I've had plenty of jobs that I loved or hated, but never before (and not at my new job) have I felt so instantly "connected" or that I was "destined" to be there. So incredibly fulfilled and yet there was this weird undercurrent of strangeness.
Like, I'm normally a pretty private person and I tend to just do my job as expected and go home to my life. This place I was acting so differently, open and accessible. People immediately warmed uo to me and vice versa. No strange sense of being the "new girl".
But even the way people act was like I was transported to some pseudo high school environment where normal work rules and standards didn't apply.
I don't think anyone else had the same feelings as me, but maybe they did and didn't talk about it.
I've never experienced such higjs and such lows on an emotional level with amy other job I've had and I was wondering if it jad something to do with astrological connections in some way.
At one point, an opportunity presented itself almost by pure luck. It was something that I've always wanted to do and offered all the challenges and rewards I had hoped for.
I sent my resume, and 3 interviews and 3 weeks later I had the job.
I felt at home immediately. I clocked with just about everyone there and was feeling ecstatic.
Without going into great detail, I left under duress a little over a year later. I'm now working at another company, still in my field and happy but not ecstatic like there.
What's strange is that every day at that place felt like I was living in an alternate universe. I've had plenty of jobs that I loved or hated, but never before (and not at my new job) have I felt so instantly "connected" or that I was "destined" to be there. So incredibly fulfilled and yet there was this weird undercurrent of strangeness.
Like, I'm normally a pretty private person and I tend to just do my job as expected and go home to my life. This place I was acting so differently, open and accessible. People immediately warmed uo to me and vice versa. No strange sense of being the "new girl".
But even the way people act was like I was transported to some pseudo high school environment where normal work rules and standards didn't apply.
I don't think anyone else had the same feelings as me, but maybe they did and didn't talk about it.
I've never experienced such higjs and such lows on an emotional level with amy other job I've had and I was wondering if it jad something to do with astrological connections in some way.
Posted by tiziani
but astrology-wise, mundane chart of the place (which is just literally a birth chart of the place from the time the building was erected) in synastry with your chart
or astromapping of the location
are the two options that come to mind
I may do that. The building itself is new, but it's in a very historic part of the city.
Posted by ManilaVicePosted by KoniuchaPosted by ManilaVice
there's no way without going deep cat lady
natal chart of the company compared to yours which i think is already a huge stretch
Maybe synastry with the day she was hired?
that's possible tooclick to expand
Like I said, I've been thinking about this for a while, since shortly after I started working there. I ran a progressed and natal chart with transits and there wasn't anything remarkable that I could see.
I even went and tried to do a synastry reading with my natal and hire dates and nothing seemed to hit the "transformational" triggers. No Pluto or Jupiter aspects.
Posted by ImarollinPosted by ManilaVice
there's no way without going deep cat lady
natal chart of the company compared to yours which i think is already a huge stretch
But isn't it about the time and day she started or was hired?
I just realized on astro.com, when you add a new person for synnestry, you can choose " event" as the gender.
But then again, i am a crazy cat lady minus the cats.click to expand
I have the cats.
Posted by tizianiPosted by ImarollinPosted by tiziani
That actually makes me more interested to ask about the architecture of the place than any astrology lol
That's a unique thing to ponder actually. Hm.
When I was working in the watch business, we looked at the design layout of creative companies extensively. The issue was how to promote creativity in the workplace and not burnout.
Never lasted long in an office environment myslf, though.click to expand
So this was a larhe open showroom with a back office and staff. I regularly transitioned between the two areas as I was a department manager.
Posted by Imarollin
@sultrykitty
Do you know the date you started that job? You'd have to get specifics on the persona chart (@manillavice cough) but it'd be worth a shot to check out. You have me intrigued to know, the same situation with me at my current job (which I'm about to check out myself
I started on July 21st 2014 so my hire date was 2 weeks prior.
I'm happy to provide any other information you might need!
Posted by tizianiPosted by sultrykittyPosted by tizianiPosted by ImarollinPosted by tiziani
That actually makes me more interested to ask about the architecture of the place than any astrology lol
That's a unique thing to ponder actually. Hm.
When I was working in the watch business, we looked at the design layout of creative companies extensively. The issue was how to promote creativity in the workplace and not burnout.
Never lasted long in an office environment myslf, though.
So this was a larhe open showroom with a back office and staff. I regularly transitioned between the two areas as I was a department manager.
Are there differences compared to the new work layout you have now?click to expand
I guess. Prior to that job I was in a small office with an open cubicle layout.
For this particular one, my desk was in a similar kind of area (cubicles in rows) with a losed off wall that separated the back officr from the showroom.
The job I have now is in a large open office with cubicles and no showroom.
Posted by ImarollinPosted by sultrykittyPosted by ImarollinPosted by ManilaVice
there's no way without going deep cat lady
natal chart of the company compared to yours which i think is already a huge stretch
But isn't it about the time and day she started or was hired?
I just realized on astro.com, when you add a new person for synnestry, you can choose " event" as the gender.
But then again, i am a crazy cat lady minus the cats.
I have the cats.
LOL 😻
When you ran the synastry chart, did you use the date of your interview or the date you were hired? (Not the date you started on payroll)
click to expand
I can't remember. I think I used the date "around" the time of my interview/hire date.
Posted by ManilaVice
what do you think of this case study?
http://www.fengshuimastersingapore.sg/career/
I'm going to have to bookmark that.
I did well at my position; the trouble was with other things that I was unable to control both on the business side (direct supervisor) and the personal side (game playing by other employees under me). It just got too hot to stick around.
Posted by tizianiPosted by sultrykittyPosted by tizianiPosted by sultrykittyPosted by tizianiPosted by ImarollinPosted by tiziani
That actually makes me more interested to ask about the architecture of the place than any astrology lol
That's a unique thing to ponder actually. Hm.
When I was working in the watch business, we looked at the design layout of creative companies extensively. The issue was how to promote creativity in the workplace and not burnout.
Never lasted long in an office environment myslf, though.
So this was a larhe open showroom with a back office and staff. I regularly transitioned between the two areas as I was a department manager.
Are there differences compared to the new work layout you have now?
I guess. Prior to that job I was in a small office with an open cubicle layout.
For this particular one, my desk was in a similar kind of area (cubicles in rows) with a losed off wall that separated the back officr from the showroom.
The job I have now is in a large open office with cubicles and no showroom.
/avoids Leo and showroom jokes
I'll ask my friend a little more about it. He's the architect, not me. Most likely he'll say he loves me but I've got to stop ringing him up with half baked ideas and then hang up. But if it's anything more than that, i'll let you know.click to expand
I'm in the architectural design/supply industry.
Posted by ImarollinPosted by sultrykittyPosted by ImarollinPosted by sultrykittyPosted by ImarollinPosted by ManilaVice
there's no way without going deep cat lady
natal chart of the company compared to yours which i think is already a huge stretch
But isn't it about the time and day she started or was hired?
I just realized on astro.com, when you add a new person for synnestry, you can choose " event" as the gender.
But then again, i am a crazy cat lady minus the cats.
I have the cats.
LOL 😻
When you ran the synastry chart, did you use the date of your interview or the date you were hired? (Not the date you started on payroll)
I can't remember. I think I used the date "around" the time of my interview/hire date.
I'd do it for you but it's your personal info.
Maybe there's a correlation?
My office is homey like. It's a single brick office, my desk is in the lab secluded from everyone else. The layout is reminiscent to that of a labyrinth, all maze and minimal open layout.
click to expand
I can post the chart. I'm in the middle of making dinner so it'll be a little bit before I can.
Posted by tizianiPosted by sultrykitty
I'm in the architectural design/supply industry.
so do you think it has merit or you suspect it was more about the people?click to expand
I think it was something about the environment that affected me. I went in as a certain kind of person, became like a completely *different* person when I was there, but now I'm back to the way I've always been.
And it's weird, like going to work I would have this great sense of anticipation, like you would when you're going to see someone you're newly dating.
And then they turn nasty on you after you get to know them better.
I've just never experienced that with a job before. Like 1said, I've had many.
Posted by tizianiPosted by sultrykittyPosted by tizianiPosted by sultrykitty
I'm in the architectural design/supply industry.
so do you think it has merit or you suspect it was more about the people?
I think it was something about the environment that affected me. I went in as a certain kind of person, became like a completely *different* person when I was there, but now I'm back to the way I've always been.
And it's weird, like going to work I would have this great sense of anticipation, like you would when you're going to see someone you're newly dating.
And then they turn nasty on you after you get to know them better.
I've just never experienced that with a job before. Like 1said, I've had many.
I know you're looking for an astro context so I'll stop here. The best I can suggest is it's 1st house/Ascendant activity that matches exactly what you described about new attraction/new dates.
Maybe an astromap of the locale would reveal one of your planets passing through on an Ascending/Rising angle.
I've never had an astromap program that zooms in right down to buildings etc. though. Mine zooms in to just the broad cities. So it'd be no use me doing it for you.
You can run your astromaps here at astro.com: http://www.astro.com/cgi/aclch.cgi?btyp=acm - same level of zoom I think.
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Aside from that this is a very intriguing topic. I personally would think it's linked to something at the workplace, a layout or a view that engaged your pupils, like Eckhard Hess used to write about. It also makes me wish someone had combined an astromap program with this program called CityEngine Advance from Esri. Where you can just take the layout of a city and it gives you a 3D map of it, then run transit energy through that. But there's no way enough interest in something like that for anyone to justify making that program.click to expand
That would be interesting. I can't really describe the psychological effect. When I read it back it sounds fairly pedestrian.
I'm not new to "new job excitement" but even aome others within the business but not working at that location made comments about how crazy it was that people would want to work there.
People did strange things; I know that I acted out of character but it was FUN! It was just a really fun place to work, until it wasn't. Almost like a cult or something.
I put up charts with the wrong profiles. ..
Natal with transits for my hire date:
Synastry with "the job" on my hire date
Composite on the hire date
Natal with transits for my hire date:
Synastry with "the job" on my hire date
Composite on the hire date
Posted by tiziani
If it's cult like effect on everyone I think the hire date is a dead-end honestly. It'd go back way further.
No problem. I didn't see anything that way that would indicate some kind of astrological connection when I looked at it back then either.
That's why I asked a different question.
So you think that it may have more to do with the location and how that may interact with my chart?
Posted by tizianiPosted by sultrykittyPosted by tiziani
If it's cult like effect on everyone I think the hire date is a dead-end honestly. It'd go back way further.
No problem. I didn't see anything that way that would indicate some kind of astrological connection when I looked at it back then either.
That's why I asked a different question.
So you think that it may have more to do with the location and how that may interact with my chart?
Yeah, even just the location by itself. If it has some strange aspects in its birth chart, since it affects everyone.click to expand
How would one get that information, exactly.?
Posted by tizianiPosted by sultrykittyPosted by tizianiPosted by sultrykittyPosted by tiziani
If it's cult like effect on everyone I think the hire date is a dead-end honestly. It'd go back way further.
No problem. I didn't see anything that way that would indicate some kind of astrological connection when I looked at it back then either.
That's why I asked a different question.
So you think that it may have more to do with the location and how that may interact with my chart?
Yeah, even just the location by itself. If it has some strange aspects in its birth chart, since it affects everyone.
How would one get that information, exactly.?
That's the thing, it's just running a birth chart of the area exactly like you've been doing, but a question of finding the right time for the "birth" of the area. It's more the knowledge of the actual area that you need. The chart, you have already.click to expand
Cool I'll maybe poke around a bit this weekend.
Well, there it is...the only line that comes close is the MC, but it's probably 60 miles or more from where I am.
Posted by ImarollinPosted by sultrykitty
Well, there it is...the only line that comes close is the MC, but it's probably 60 miles or more from where I am.
Mind if I inquire how you got that chart?click to expand
It's on astro.com in the chsrt selections. You have to scroll almost to the bottom. Astro map.
I think it has to do with how where you are physically affects certain points on your chart. Lines that intersect are significant locations related to whatever planets are aspected. Or a point on the map intersecting with your chart may have some significance.
Aat least that's how I understand it. I could be misunderstanding it though.
Aat least that's how I understand it. I could be misunderstanding it though.
^^^ @Imarollin
Posted by ImarollinPosted by sultrykitty
I think it has to do with how where you are physically affects certain points on your chart. Lines that intersect are significant locations related to whatever planets are aspected. Or a point on the map intersecting with your chart may have some significance.
Aat least that's how I understand it. I could be misunderstanding it though.
I REMEBER this from a while back. You've opened up a can or worms for me ahha.
Thank you again.
I hope your job gets better.I hope your feelings are temporary. And i hope your dinner last last was amazing.
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New job is great. They'd been trying to recruit me the whole time I was at the other place but I really wanted that job to work. When it was clear to me that it wasn't going to, I called and git the process started.
I quit that job fairly suddenly (at least to my boss) before I had the offer but was pretty confident I was going to get it I was basically told I was going to get an offer in a week or two.
I actually miss that job. It was still probably the most rewarding thing I've done in my career of 20 years. But the negative was just not going to turn around so I had to move on.
Dinner was awesome, thanks.
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