Posted by LadyNeptuneWow this seems way cheaper then rent in your area. Do you know whether you get seasick or not?
Gem has been talking about getting a boat together, docking it in marina del ray and living there part time. Its a fun idea, not sure how realistic it would be. Love the idea of taking it to catalina on weekends. Maybe air b n b for weekends we aren't using it. He would be staying there more throughout the week then me as its closer to his work.
Monthly slip fees are around $ 700 per month. Maintenance per year would run around 10% of boats value so a 2-5K range.
I have sailing experience, my mom lives part time on her bfs boat in san diego...so I have some notion of what would be involved. But most likely we would go for a powered boat not a sailboat since interior space is much better.
Posted by saggurl88I personally don't get sea sick. And when docked I find the motion pretty soothing.Posted by LadyNeptuneWow this seems way cheaper then rent in your area. Do you know whether you get seasick or not?
Gem has been talking about getting a boat together, docking it in marina del ray and living there part time. Its a fun idea, not sure how realistic it would be. Love the idea of taking it to catalina on weekends. Maybe air b n b for weekends we aren't using it. He would be staying there more throughout the week then me as its closer to his work.
Monthly slip fees are around $ 700 per month. Maintenance per year would run around 10% of boats value so a 2-5K range.
I have sailing experience, my mom lives part time on her bfs boat in san diego...so I have some notion of what would be involved. But most likely we would go for a powered boat not a sailboat since interior space is much better.click to expand
Posted by pisceswoman123Oh for sure. Boat bathrooms are the worst, definitely would need to put some monies in to renovate and bathroom/kitchen would be #1 on the list. They also charge you extra to dispose of your waste so theres that.
I have been sailing. You get really tired. Not having a good bathroom is the worst.
Posted by Foxy777Oh yeah those barges are nice and roomy. I don’t think we have them out here tho, haven’t seen any.
I have a friend who did. But her ten yr old daughter got cancer and they couldn't manage a small space with her being sick and medical equipment. But before that it was pretty cool.
She was an accountant who did the books for places in Ireland while she lived on the boat in the Uk. She managed to work from 'home' on the boat.
Her daughter was fine by the way but it was a difficult three years and they couldn't manage a small space at that time.
But she always said she would recommend it.
Its just at some times during life you need bigger spaces.
It was a barge though.
Posted by LadyNeptuneJust curious how big is the boat that cost $ 25k?
Gem has been talking about getting a boat together, docking it in marina del ray and living there part time. Its a fun idea, not sure how realistic it would be. Love the idea of taking it to catalina on weekends. Maybe air b n b for weekends we aren't using it. He would be staying there more throughout the week then me as its closer to his work.
Monthly slip fees are around $ 700 per month. Maintenance per year would run around 10% of boats value so a 2-5K range.
I have sailing experience, my mom lives part time on her bfs boat in san diego...so I have some notion of what would be involved. But most likely we would go for a powered boat not a sailboat since interior space is much better.
Posted by Gemitati34' tawler for 20kPosted by LadyNeptuneJust curious how big is the boat that cost $ 25k?
Gem has been talking about getting a boat together, docking it in marina del ray and living there part time. Its a fun idea, not sure how realistic it would be. Love the idea of taking it to catalina on weekends. Maybe air b n b for weekends we aren't using it. He would be staying there more throughout the week then me as its closer to his work.
Monthly slip fees are around $ 700 per month. Maintenance per year would run around 10% of boats value so a 2-5K range.
I have sailing experience, my mom lives part time on her bfs boat in san diego...so I have some notion of what would be involved. But most likely we would go for a powered boat not a sailboat since interior space is much better.
Have a friend who live in a boat and off season traveling in RV.
If you have certain questions - I can get answers. He did say that you have to use smaller places and adjustment is a bitch for some and not an issue for others. And he did mentioned shower, bathroom, kitchen. But he is a single man so...click to expand
Posted by _DazedNo not a forever home. It would be like a second apartment for the both of us (possibly his primary home for the next year/year and a half) and a fun weekend play toy and/or air b n b possibly.
Unless it's going to be a "forever" home, rent instead of own.
One critical failure, especially engine wise.. will wipe out all the saving you did.
Posted by Impulsvsounds ominous
The two best days is when you buy a boat an sell it
Posted by ImpulsvWould you say the yearly maintenance costs are the 10% oc boat value? Or far more
I used to own a 24 ft maxum
It’s money pit
If you park it to live consider having monthly diver to clean to bottom of the boat
Posted by NotmyrealnameHe’s talking about getting a fixer upper, putting some work into it (he’s handy af) living on it part time (him not me) for the next year or so and then maybe selling after and getting a bit of profit.
My friend says people talk about B.O.A.T as in ‘Bring On Another Thousand’ just ‘cause there’s always so many random costs that come up you hadn’t anticipated, like it looks like it would save so much money but you’re basically sinking your money and there’s always drama in the mooring places ... BUT that’s just the rumour on the street, I personally know nooothinnnggg, and probably if you have the cash and get a nice one it would be wonderful and peaceful and serene and great! 😊🤷♀️
Posted by Mr_PinchyLook at the craigslist link I posted on page 2 of thread and give me your opinion on level of trash. Hot garbage levels vs recyclables.
A boat for 20k will not even remotely look like anything you like to watch on Pinterest. It might smell of oil on the inside too. Or old stuff smell that got into the furniture and now it reeks and can never be get rid of.
Marina life is good for two weeks. Then you get tired of seeing all the people around you at regular intervals when they're eating outside on the back/top deck. Idk how much space is there but that was my experience. Prepare to share the joint with the neighborhood too. They'll all smell it.
You can find costs estimates online, but 10% of cost for maintenance per year will happen only on a perfect year if at all. 2000 $ /year probably doesn't even cover the cost of mooring for a year. Unless that's some sort of residential marina with symbolic costs, I know only about tourist marinas tbh.
Tl Dr It's a bad buy if the plan is to use it as a home. If you're gonna go through with it, throw some more money into it. 20k will buy you trash, unless super lucky.
Posted by LadyNeptuneGo try it out then. As a permanent home, no. Unless you're up for a bit of a boemic life style .Posted by Mr_PinchyLook at the craigslist link I posted on page 1 of thread and give me your opinion on level of trash. Hot garbage levels vs recyclables.
A boat for 20k will not even remotely look like anything you like to watch on Pinterest. It might smell of oil on the inside too. Or old stuff smell that got into the furniture and now it reeks and can never be get rid of.
Marina life is good for two weeks. Then you get tired of seeing all the people around you at regular intervals when they're eating outside on the back/top deck. Idk how much space is there but that was my experience. Prepare to share the joint with the neighborhood too. They'll all smell it.
You can find costs estimates online, but 10% of cost for maintenance per year will happen only on a perfect year if at all. 2000 $ /year probably doesn't even cover the cost of mooring for a year. Unless that's some sort of residential marina with symbolic costs, I know only about tourist marinas tbh.
Tl Dr It's a bad buy if the plan is to use it as a home. If you're gonna go through with it, throw some more money into it. 20k will buy you trash, unless super lucky.click to expand
Posted by MacDaddyInfiniteCause that’s totes related 🙄🙄
Starving children in africa and you're talking about spending exorbitant amounts of money on luxury "for teh lulz" fun living.
#PieceOfHumanGarbage
Posted by TheRabbitDeets
Owned a boat once.
Won't do it again.
I'll stick with my kayak.
Posted by TheRabbitCan I ask you what you spent on yours initially for purchase price, and how much you spent on maintenance over what time period?Posted by LadyNeptunePretty much what everyone else said. Maintenance, maintenance, maintenance. Your 20k boat ends up being 30k then 40k before you know it. And unlike property, it's never going to appreciate. I mean, it's a gamble to consider your home an investment to begin with, but at least property doesn't depreciate to the same extent. You better REALLY love boating to drop that level of coin.Posted by TheRabbitDeets
Owned a boat once.
Won't do it again.
I'll stick with my kayak.click to expand
Posted by Mr_PinchyBy parked do you mean docked?Posted by LadyNeptuneGo try it out then. As a permanent home, no. Unless you're up for a bit of a boemic life style .Posted by Mr_PinchyLook at the craigslist link I posted on page 1 of thread and give me your opinion on level of trash. Hot garbage levels vs recyclables.
A boat for 20k will not even remotely look like anything you like to watch on Pinterest. It might smell of oil on the inside too. Or old stuff smell that got into the furniture and now it reeks and can never be get rid of.
Marina life is good for two weeks. Then you get tired of seeing all the people around you at regular intervals when they're eating outside on the back/top deck. Idk how much space is there but that was my experience. Prepare to share the joint with the neighborhood too. They'll all smell it.
You can find costs estimates online, but 10% of cost for maintenance per year will happen only on a perfect year if at all. 2000 $ /year probably doesn't even cover the cost of mooring for a year. Unless that's some sort of residential marina with symbolic costs, I know only about tourist marinas tbh.
Tl Dr It's a bad buy if the plan is to use it as a home. If you're gonna go through with it, throw some more money into it. 20k will buy you trash, unless super lucky.
As a romantic getaway, ya I guess. But if it's gonna be parked in the marina all the time, idk, sound travels really well over the water. You can really hear people very clearly even if they are far away.
There will be a distinct lack of privacy unless all windows will be shut. Which will make it hot AC is a must.
If it's not gonna be parked, running costs will go over that 2k/month.
One of you will probably have to do the skipper license for the appropriate size of the boat too.click to expand
Posted by TheRabbitGood to know.Posted by LadyNeptuneMine was somewhere in the range of 15k to 17k brand new. All told it was about 10 to 15% per year to keep it and the trailer maintained, stored, registered, compliant, gassed, and with mostly fresh batteries. That was a 16' aluminum fishing boat. Considering like most people I spend most of my time at work or sleeping, and I could use it maybe 6 months out of the year in IN, the costs just didn't justify themselves.Posted by TheRabbitCan I ask you what you spent on yours initially for purchase price, and how much you spent on maintenance over what time period?Posted by LadyNeptunePretty much what everyone else said. Maintenance, maintenance, maintenance. Your 20k boat ends up being 30k then 40k before you know it. And unlike property, it's never going to appreciate. I mean, it's a gamble to consider your home an investment to begin with, but at least property doesn't depreciate to the same extent. You better REALLY love boating to drop that level of coin.Posted by TheRabbitDeets
Owned a boat once.
Won't do it again.
I'll stick with my kayak.
Your results may vary given you're just parking it and your weather is more year round, but the costs only grow the bigger the boat and the more features you have.click to expand
Posted by MacDaddyInfinite20k is chump change my broke little friend. Most people here spend close to double that to rent a place to live for the year. This is something to OWN.Posted by LadyNeptune
Cause that’s totes related 🙄🙄
You gotta step up your hustle if you consider 20k an exorbitant amount of money. Ijs
The fact that you think 20k isn't a lot of money. Proves you're just snobby high class? You sound like trump "A small loan of a million dollars."
Nevermind the fact that yes, it's totally related. You're spending money on /lavish/, that most certainly isn't absolutely necessary. Everybody should have a little bit of something, the bare minimum of what they could be content with.
Otherwise, spending money for reasons other than the benefit of others. Makes you a truly horrible person, you piece of goddamn garbage. You think it's not serious, because most of the first world will validate your life style and you can get away with it.
But responsibility is a bitch. Even God himself has to adhere to it because if he CAN do something about shit but doesn't, Atheists agree straight up that he must be the most evil fucker of all. You think you, some little preppy ho from uptown california, are somehow going to be exempt?
You either admit your evil and own it. Own how much of a trash person you are. Or you change. You are not afforded the ability to deny or be in denial.click to expand
Posted by LadyNeptuneI'd be so nervous sleeping on the water. Let me know how the experience turns out.Posted by TheRabbitGood to know.Posted by LadyNeptuneMine was somewhere in the range of 15k to 17k brand new. All told it was about 10 to 15% per year to keep it and the trailer maintained, stored, registered, compliant, gassed, and with mostly fresh batteries. That was a 16' aluminum fishing boat. Considering like most people I spend most of my time at work or sleeping, and I could use it maybe 6 months out of the year in IN, the costs just didn't justify themselves.Posted by TheRabbitCan I ask you what you spent on yours initially for purchase price, and how much you spent on maintenance over what time period?Posted by LadyNeptunePretty much what everyone else said. Maintenance, maintenance, maintenance. Your 20k boat ends up being 30k then 40k before you know it. And unlike property, it's never going to appreciate. I mean, it's a gamble to consider your home an investment to begin with, but at least property doesn't depreciate to the same extent. You better REALLY love boating to drop that level of coin.Posted by TheRabbitDeets
Owned a boat once.
Won't do it again.
I'll stick with my kayak.
Your results may vary given you're just parking it and your weather is more year round, but the costs only grow the bigger the boat and the more features you have.
So instead of the 10% should budget 20% to be safe.
The 30-35’ range would be ideal. He would stay there during the week, some weekends. I’d do a Friday night thru Sunday night stay, give or take.
We both have our separate residences atm so storage of possessions is a non issue. Pack a weekend bag type vibe.
Idk all of this is hypothetical. I’m just excited to surprise him with an overnight air b n b if only for the experience of sleeping on the water.click to expand
Posted by MoneyTreats20k not 800k, jeebus.
Riva Rivarama
Posted by ItsSupes2I'm never gonna retire. My work is my passion, without it I die.Posted by LadyNeptuneI’ve owned 3 boats. All 3 were money grubbers. Anything designed for recreational use is. Teak wood is hella expensive (marine grade). Parts for marine engines are considerably higher than regular automotive parts.Posted by NotmyrealnameHe’s talking about getting a fixer upper, putting some work into it (he’s handy af) living on it part time (him not me) for the next year or so and then maybe selling after and getting a bit of profit.
My friend says people talk about B.O.A.T as in ‘Bring On Another Thousand’ just ‘cause there’s always so many random costs that come up you hadn’t anticipated, like it looks like it would save so much money but you’re basically sinking your money and there’s always drama in the mooring places ... BUT that’s just the rumour on the street, I personally know nooothinnnggg, and probably if you have the cash and get a nice one it would be wonderful and peaceful and serene and great! 😊🤷♀️
The hidden cost of maintenance frightens me tho. But maybe it would be worth it to cut his commute in half, plus some.
Buy you a boat when you retire. You’ll enjoy it moreclick to expand
Posted by Jules-llYeah I like the idea of a 30-35' range. Somewhere in there. Prefer a motor to sail boat. It would be for small trips to catalina or channel island or along cali coast, not like around the world. And living there would be more of like an overnight stay, not full time, so interior doesn't have to be huge.
Are you talking a house boat or motor boat? I say go for a motor boat, especially if you like being on the water and since you live in an area where you can boat year round. Something to think about is the size you are considering is a lot of boat for a first time owner...
Scorp bought his first boat last summer, a 25' Sundancer. He's always saying a got a bill for this or that, but on LI there are the costs of winterizing and storage which you won't incur. I love being on the water, clamming, fishing, swimming, it's a whole different world than being on land.
Posted by MoneyTreatsI wouldn't take out a loan, its gotta be a cash buy. And if I had 1mill in cash I would be developing a mix used space that would feed my family for generations.Posted by LadyNeptuneIt went downPosted by MoneyTreats20k not 800k, jeebus.
Riva Rivarama
I need to stop sucking the gems dick and start sucking some old wrinkly dick to get in a riva yacht lol
It was a cool mil when I graduated collegeclick to expand
Posted by LadyNeptune
Curious if any of you have either owned or lived on a boat.
Post here any info you wish you would've know prior to purchasing.
Posted by MacDaddyInfinite"Most people here", meaning California, specifically Los Angeles. Standard 1bd goes for $ 1500, in this particular city where boat would be docked its between $ 1900-2400 for a 1bd.Posted by LadyNeptune
20k is chump change my broke little friend. Most people here spend close to double that to rent a place to live for the year. This is something to OWN.
LMAO NOPE. America is the wealthiest nation in the world and yet the US gov considers the poverty line(The overwhelming majority of people, as per the wealth gap between the 1% , 10% , and everybody else.) As 20k a year. So that's most people's entire money in a year because most people aren't living in their own home without a roomate or spouse filling in the gap and making it even possible to pay rent and bills.
Try again. Throwing out living wages that most americans don't even afford on their own. Is a terrible way to try and prove what is "chump change".click to expand
Posted by MacDaddyInfinite1. I've seen your dick, and factually speaking its a toothpaste dick. lol
Anyways don’t come at me with your small d i c k energy
Sorry princess, but I can't have small dick energy. My dick is factually massive, weighing in at a whopping 7 inches long and 5.4 inches thick. Cameras don't do it justice, it's a mean fuckstick. Kthnx.It comes off as mad jealousy.
Caring about money all that much for reasons beyond goodwill and kindness to others. Is tiny dick energy. Derp.
We make a good honest living through our hardwork.
*priveledged
I know entitled princesses mistake those 2 things. Privilege and Hard Work. But they are actually direct antithetical counterparts.If we want to spend a fraction of that money on purchasing a floating home away from home that’s our decision.
False. But in a corrupt world you'll make evil decisions anyways, with that pesky human ego ya got.Statistically speaking youve spent more of your income on that gamining setup your so proud of then we would spend of our income on this boat. So keep on hating 😎
Statistically speaking I am the last person to be capable of helping others financially. But even I do what I can. So what's your excuse?click to expand
Posted by MacDaddyInfiniteTLTRPosted by LadyNeptune
1.I've seen your dick, and factually speaking its a toothpaste dick. lol
Longer toothpaste tubes are pretty damn big. It's as long as a 7inch tube, and thicker circumference than the tube at practically twice the thickness at 5.4 inches.
For frame of reference. The average length is 5 inches, 4 if you're Asian. The average thickness is no more than 4 inches flat. Thickness is proportional to length, you know. A person who is taller but weighs the same as someone who is shorter, is less thick overall. So for a taller person to be the same thickness as a given shorter person would mean they actually weigh substantially more.
Because real estate wise. A 5 inch long, 5 inch thick dick. Has significantly less realestate overall than a 7 inch by 5 inch. Those 2 more inches of length, are 2 more 5.4 inches of thickness along the length scale.
"Toothpaste dick". Isn't really an insult when the average toothpaste tube is BIG in terms of length. Especially since we are talking about the longest kind of toothpaste tubes. Now imagine that long, LONG. Tube. As 5.4 inches thick up and down its length.
In what way is that an insult?You can call me a princess, facts are I'm self made, left home and financial support of my parents when I was 18. Your still under mommies roof, so I get why your so salty.
Again. It was and still is priviledge that afforded you that success. There are more sucessful people than you that would say /they/ are priviledged. So you stand drastically less of a chance of not being considered lucky of the opportunities and environment that enabled and pretty much gauranteed your "success".
You're not self made. You're an entitled chick living in a psuedo-rich culture. You want self made? Start from scratch but this time, do it somewhere where you're not basically just exploiting a niche market to get easy $ $ $ in the high class neighborhoods of the wealthiest state, of the wealthiest nation on earth.
You're what, a designer of some sort? That actually manages to make a psuedo-rich level of wealth by just coming up with ideas. LMAO, you know struggle. Lemme tell you.You have no idea of what I do with my monies and who I help, but thanks for being so triggered. Have a great weekend.
You can't do the right thing SOMETIMES. Especially so you can pat yourself on the back and act like you did your part and can needlessly serve yourself with the rest of it.
/Starving Children with no homes across the globe/. While you already have a goddamn home, yet are buying another one because LULZ I JUST WANNA HAVE FUN ON THE WEEKEND/VACATION.
You are CAPABLE of helping a starving child more than you currently do. End of story. So that means you are outright starving them yourself, by responsibility of the fact that you have the power and just simply don't.
Undeniably, for absolute certainty. You WILL those children to starve. You are actually explicitly, doing it to them. By process of responsibility and the power you hold while the path you choose.
In the same way that witnessing a rape and not doing everything in your power to stop it. Is called being an Accomplice. You're an accomplice to starving children across the globe. How do you feel about that?
Anyways princess, stop trying to write my narrative. You can state the facfs that I am on the bottom because of the disposition and life I was born into. But you act like I WANT to be you, or that if I was in your shoes I'd be a hypocrite. Lolno, try again.click to expand
Posted by MacDaddyInfiniteOr I just don't care about your unsolicited opinion. ShrugPosted by LadyNeptune
TLTR
Because intellectual laziness is a perfectly valid reason to be a piece of shit. Sure there bud.click to expand
Posted by MacDaddyInfiniteMy money goes to support your food stamps. Yw for the food in your belly.Posted by LadyNeptune
Or I just don't care about your unsolicited opinion. Shrug
Look lady I don't know you and I can't control your life. It's just such bullshit that so many people have more of a capacity to help others than they act like and it's always the most capable who help the least because of a bullshit perogative that helping is somehow negative sum and even if it were that'd just mean that's what is right anyways but whatever.
If everybody did their part, the amount of suffering in the world would be minimal. You're gonna buy a boat because it feels good for you. That's literally the only reason.
If I had that money I know what I'd be spending it on.click to expand