Do you believe in love?
This topic was created in the Cancer forum by CancerKitten on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 and has 26 replies.
Like true love. Love at first sight love.
That feeling that makes you just know that the person you love is pwrth it no matter what. taht you'll always stand by them. the same way you would family
That feeling that makes you just know that the person you love is pwrth it no matter what. taht you'll always stand by them. the same way you would family
Yes, without a doubt.
least someone else does.
i've talked to so many people who don't seem to believe in it.
they try and be so logical and scientific about love.
and act like all love is the same and you can never be certain
i've talked to so many people who don't seem to believe in it.
they try and be so logical and scientific about love.
and act like all love is the same and you can never be certain
Well, then I guess they have never experienced true love. I think when you share that with someone there is no question about what you are feeling.
absolutely 100% believe in it.
If it wasnt for cancer i would think i was cold as ice lol I've grown so much. Love is the ultimate feeling, it softens your heart and makes you stronger all at the same time.
I absolutely believe in love.....love is the force key to unlocking the depths of the soul. If not for love, no feeling....we could never really know the power of conviction, or intensity of feeling....the forces that affirm us that we are alive.....in terms of logic, and person could never know they existed as an idividual becuase logic is uniform and is basically like being apart of a super-computer: all terminals are connected and related....but when things are personal......no one can take away your individuality....it's promised to you becuase no one can feel exactly the way that you feel.....we can only generalize when it comes to feelings and be somewhere in the same ball park as the one we wish to empathize with....that's why feelings can make for a lonely experience....but they can be powerful and healing as well.....
Water in my opinion, was, is, and ALWAYS will be the best element.
Water in my opinion, was, is, and ALWAYS will be the best element.
"That feeling that makes you just know that the person you love is pwrth it no matter what. taht you'll always stand by them. the same way you would family"
I believe in what you've written here.
I believe in what you've written here.
love at first sight...yes, yes, and yes! when i met my vguy (cancer moon), he was with his ma and g/f. i saw right into him...WOW. i saw so clearly, i saw who he was, saw who he could be, though i don't try to change him. it has just been a natural progression for both of us.
this is real love, not the passion of youth. we grow into better people, because of, inspite of the challanges in our relationship. (and believe me, there are plenty LOL).
always stand by him??? like family??? i would not stand by family if they were wrong...i mean a danger to themself or others, cruel, hurtful. i care enough for my loved ones to guide them when needed, but i let them make their own mistakes, and i am there to help them rejoyce, or lick their wounds, as the case may be.
pan
this is real love, not the passion of youth. we grow into better people, because of, inspite of the challanges in our relationship. (and believe me, there are plenty LOL).
always stand by him??? like family??? i would not stand by family if they were wrong...i mean a danger to themself or others, cruel, hurtful. i care enough for my loved ones to guide them when needed, but i let them make their own mistakes, and i am there to help them rejoyce, or lick their wounds, as the case may be.
pan
No and yes .....
I believe we all have this love hidden within an illusion of what we want it to be .. this unconditional love in which we want to feel.
Then we go about trying to find a person who fits within the illusion .. an idea.
I don't believe it's outside of ourselves .. that there's another to whom we instantly fall for, it's not the other person to whom we love unconditionally .. it's ourselves. For when we find love, there are always conditions, aren't there?
A certain way you want to be treated, right? So, there are conditions placed on the other person ..... but, to ourselves, within this idealistic love of what we want, there are no conditions attached, for it there were conditions attached to the love we have for ourselves, then we wouldn't continually "fall" for the wrong people.
We would put a condition on ourselves and say something like, "I'll only allow myself to be attracted to (this) kind of person."
I believe we all have this love hidden within an illusion of what we want it to be .. this unconditional love in which we want to feel.
Then we go about trying to find a person who fits within the illusion .. an idea.
I don't believe it's outside of ourselves .. that there's another to whom we instantly fall for, it's not the other person to whom we love unconditionally .. it's ourselves. For when we find love, there are always conditions, aren't there?
A certain way you want to be treated, right? So, there are conditions placed on the other person ..... but, to ourselves, within this idealistic love of what we want, there are no conditions attached, for it there were conditions attached to the love we have for ourselves, then we wouldn't continually "fall" for the wrong people.
We would put a condition on ourselves and say something like, "I'll only allow myself to be attracted to (this) kind of person."
In my experience, love is being with someone who knows me in and out, right and wrong, and loves me over all: Im not asking for some fancy perfect, thing handed to me 'happily ever after' comes with hard work, and determination....I want it to work and given any adversities or problems I can't do it alone.....not in a relationship....we've got to work at the same amount of intensity....sometimes it suxxx to know that the girl or guy you want dosen't feel at the same level you do....it's lonely...but well...with time you'll learn their ways and how to pick up on their style of expression.
I TRY sometimes to be a bastard....to test the relationships 'give' and sometimes it breaks....or I cause it to...I can make huge scenes in the house, glare at you with nothing but seething hatred....but it's because I want to know if I leave you'll be there when I come back....Problem is I'm still learning how sensitive I really am....It's hard for me to say I need anything because things have been comming and going out of my life....and it's painful...fuckin' heart-wenching to watch it go....I can be a little on the dramatic side, but whom ever I'm with is just going to have to accept that....that is IF they're big enough to love me.
I can't stand fluffy or light love....I need the meat and potatoes of it.....the good filling love....all that love a first sight, airy fairy stuff just dosen't do it for me....I need something deep and hard.....???? *VE blushes*
Perfection is just me getting to know the 'real' you....the you that you don't share with the rest of the world that makes me feel whole and wholeness is perfect....I need to be valued above and beyond the rest....It's ME that you lay down next to, it's ME that you cry to, and release your feelings to....THAT'S love....
I TRY sometimes to be a bastard....to test the relationships 'give' and sometimes it breaks....or I cause it to...I can make huge scenes in the house, glare at you with nothing but seething hatred....but it's because I want to know if I leave you'll be there when I come back....Problem is I'm still learning how sensitive I really am....It's hard for me to say I need anything because things have been comming and going out of my life....and it's painful...fuckin' heart-wenching to watch it go....I can be a little on the dramatic side, but whom ever I'm with is just going to have to accept that....that is IF they're big enough to love me.
I can't stand fluffy or light love....I need the meat and potatoes of it.....the good filling love....all that love a first sight, airy fairy stuff just dosen't do it for me....I need something deep and hard.....???? *VE blushes*
Perfection is just me getting to know the 'real' you....the you that you don't share with the rest of the world that makes me feel whole and wholeness is perfect....I need to be valued above and beyond the rest....It's ME that you lay down next to, it's ME that you cry to, and release your feelings to....THAT'S love....
I can't explain how deeply I feel....I just wish you ladies or gents would understand that the more a man tries to fend off his feelings the more deeply he feels....he doesn't want to overpower, or scare you.....he's trying at great pains to give his all to you....he burns out, and often time, burns himself and WANTS to be your everything but sometimes falls short and kicks himself in the ass.....He's frustrated too...
I'm always trying to moderate my feelings and better accommodate yours....I'll be damned if someone's gonna try to take all the love away for themselves.....My feelings are actually VALUE
I don't waste them on petty matters....so romance and love is of great importance to me...if I do get passionate over something it means it means a GREAT deal to me....and those are the only things I actually care about....I prefer to live my life for my passions not just for day to day living....I can be obsessive about things, but I feel, and DON'T use my senitivity to your advantage, I swear....It will get ugly.....
I'm always trying to moderate my feelings and better accommodate yours....I'll be damned if someone's gonna try to take all the love away for themselves.....My feelings are actually VALUE
I don't waste them on petty matters....so romance and love is of great importance to me...if I do get passionate over something it means it means a GREAT deal to me....and those are the only things I actually care about....I prefer to live my life for my passions not just for day to day living....I can be obsessive about things, but I feel, and DON'T use my senitivity to your advantage, I swear....It will get ugly.....so I hear a whole lot of men say women don't understand how they really feel...and women say men don't understand the depths of a woman's emotions [I'm talking about this thread but in general] and so in return BOTH try to hide their feelings and be "tough" because they think that is what the other wants to see in them.... I'm truly amazed... I'll tell you what - I will share my feelings openly with ANYONE and if they can't handle that then they do not value and appreciate me for the amazing woman that I am. Being a strong woman doesn't have to me putting on a brave face. It can also mean having the strength to show your emotions and be proud of who you are when you do and know that anyone worth your time will love you that way because you are special. Let all the nay sayers call me weask and needy - I say I am strong because I do believe in love and I am open to it and not afraid to show someone when I need and want them. True love exists but so few of us find it these days because everyone is so afraid of their emotions.
"Being a strong woman doesn't have to me putting on a brave face. It can also mean having the strength to show your emotions and be proud of who you are when you do and know that anyone worth your time will love you that way because you are special. Let all the nay sayers call me weask and needy - I say I am strong because I do believe in love and I am open to it and not afraid to show someone when I need and want them. True love exists but so few of us find it these days because everyone is so afraid of their emotions."
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Hallelujah! Truer words have never been spoken.
Now to answer the question...I believe in love. But kinda like what Pangel said...being in a relationship and having all these expectations and things that have to be done spoils it unless you're strong.
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Hallelujah! Truer words have never been spoken.
Now to answer the question...I believe in love. But kinda like what Pangel said...being in a relationship and having all these expectations and things that have to be done spoils it unless you're strong.
please explain what you mean by "expectations" - I hear people say that but I don't understand it. When you're in love you are in the relationship through the good bad and otherwise because you WANT to be...not because it is expected of you....
What I mean by expectations is.....love is just love. Its pure. Love doesn't need anything to sustain it. It just is.
Relationships on the other hand, require things to sustain it. Expectations come into play with a relationship.
And I've come to know that you can love someone but relationship wise it doesn't work. & Ironically sometimes relationships work with people you don't love.
Relationships on the other hand, require things to sustain it. Expectations come into play with a relationship.
And I've come to know that you can love someone but relationship wise it doesn't work. & Ironically sometimes relationships work with people you don't love.
I think love is enough to suistain a relationship [provided it comes from BOTH people], you only need other things to sustain a relationship when love is absent either on one side or both.
xangelfishx:I think love is enough to suistain a relationship
lol a little 'bedroom boom' never hurt either....
I ABSOLUTELY DESPISE not feeling something with every fiber of my being....I want 'super experience' an elevated state of mind/soul when all things are so intensely it feels like you're....loosing your body and feeling your SOUL...purely your soul....you feel yourself comming into contact with your whole being....reason marries emotion and you have such a profound understanding of yourself you feel almost arrogantly confident....
Now, I know I'm a Virgo, but I feel a deep-seated desire to dominate my lover....to in a way force them to acknowledge my power, my love, (which is why I'm not comfortable with sensitivity....it makes me feel like I have to deny myself the ONE AND ONLY form of expression of this eruptive energy....I'm sorry, I just can't deny myself that experience) and ability to subdue, and seduce them....nothing gets me more than knowing all your little buttons to push and switches to flick and someone who understands my deep, DEEP emotions.....
lol a little 'bedroom boom' never hurt either....
I ABSOLUTELY DESPISE not feeling something with every fiber of my being....I want 'super experience' an elevated state of mind/soul when all things are so intensely it feels like you're....loosing your body and feeling your SOUL...purely your soul....you feel yourself comming into contact with your whole being....reason marries emotion and you have such a profound understanding of yourself you feel almost arrogantly confident....
Now, I know I'm a Virgo, but I feel a deep-seated desire to dominate my lover....to in a way force them to acknowledge my power, my love, (which is why I'm not comfortable with sensitivity....it makes me feel like I have to deny myself the ONE AND ONLY form of expression of this eruptive energy....I'm sorry, I just can't deny myself that experience) and ability to subdue, and seduce them....nothing gets me more than knowing all your little buttons to push and switches to flick and someone who understands my deep, DEEP emotions.....
A lot of what you wrote is very unclear.
But what I mean when I say that love is enough to sustain a relationship is that two people who are in love are considerate of one another, their emotions, desires, dreams and ambitions, likes and dislikes....and yes, even the bedroom is part of that - I think ideally the more you love someone the more you enjoy even just that feeling of being so close and intimate.
There are many facets of a relationship, many things that go into it. But I believe in soulmates and that people are destined to meet. As imitationoflife said you can love someone and it won't work out - that's because it wasn't meant to. The idea that your soulmate is the only one you'll ever love is ridiculous... you'll likely love at least once before you find your soulmate. Few people get that lucky on the first try..... Whatever "expectations" you have of a relationship will likely be met because what you're looking for all along is the "one" whether you know it or not. That's not to say once you find them it will be "easy", nothing rteally ever is...in fact it will probably be the most difficult experience of your entire life.... but no matter how difficult it may be, for the right person it will be worth it. That's what makes all the difference.
But what I mean when I say that love is enough to sustain a relationship is that two people who are in love are considerate of one another, their emotions, desires, dreams and ambitions, likes and dislikes....and yes, even the bedroom is part of that - I think ideally the more you love someone the more you enjoy even just that feeling of being so close and intimate.
There are many facets of a relationship, many things that go into it. But I believe in soulmates and that people are destined to meet. As imitationoflife said you can love someone and it won't work out - that's because it wasn't meant to. The idea that your soulmate is the only one you'll ever love is ridiculous... you'll likely love at least once before you find your soulmate. Few people get that lucky on the first try..... Whatever "expectations" you have of a relationship will likely be met because what you're looking for all along is the "one" whether you know it or not. That's not to say once you find them it will be "easy", nothing rteally ever is...in fact it will probably be the most difficult experience of your entire life.... but no matter how difficult it may be, for the right person it will be worth it. That's what makes all the difference.
xangelfishx: 'A lot of what you wrote is very unclear.'
Is it? sounds like you understand it just fine xangelfishx....you just said what I was REALLY getting at
Is it? sounds like you understand it just fine xangelfishx....you just said what I was REALLY getting at
lol - what I meant was that there are some things where it sounds like you're refering to one thing... but could possibly be refering to another... it's hard to distinguish some of what you're talking about...whether it's sex, love, or anything in between...
But if there's one thing I understand, it's LOVE....probably surprising coming from a bull.....love is hardly stable and practical.....
But if there's one thing I understand, it's LOVE....probably surprising coming from a bull.....love is hardly stable and practical.....
I used to... Until my heart got broken in to millions and millions and millions of pieces...
The right person can put it back together for you... "fix you"... but only if you're willing to let them 
Believe in love? Yes. Love at first sight? No. True love is something that takes years to grow. Love at first sight is just infatuation, and there better be something underneath when the infatuation fades else it'll all fall apart.
I think love finds you when you least expect it & not when your looking for it...and when it does find you, you'll undoubtably know it. There's no denying it..a feeling so strong it will inevitably consume your entire being..for those who run for fear of being hurt maybe running from the best thing you can & will ever experience. Yes! I believe in love..it rocks you to the core, its comfortable, compassionate, its trusting, its the greatest joy in life...to love & to be loved...its unconditional..you can't see it but your guaranteed to feel it when your in it....yes! I believe in love!..=)
No, but the Scorpions do.
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