Indigo1974
@Indigo1974
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Posted by stardustmop
To be fair you brought up the other men in both scenarios. If I were dating a man and he constantly brought up other women I would wonder if he was trying to friend zone me. Especially given that he seems to have baggage and commitment issues.

Posted by Indigo1974
I’m coming up on three months with my Cancer guy. Started out very fast and hot and heavy, we slowed down to dating, and now have slowed down to more friends...give him time to heal from some past wounds and be ready to commit. However we are exclusive, not dating or sleeping with anyone else while we do this....


Posted by Moloko_vellocet
First incident he was being protective.
Second incident he was being cheeky and sarcastic.
You’re looking for problems. Do you get off on provoking male jealousy?
It sounds like you’re trying to plant the drama seed.
Posted by Maxian
I think you're fabricating things that are not there. He just wants to work on the friendship, take his word for it.
If you're bringing up men as an incentive, that's not going to work and you'll only push him away further.
If his situation is a wonky offer to you, I'd suggest you move on and be really friends instead of this half-half stuff.
Posted by Undine
This is how Cancer's inability to banter looks like!
Are you a Gem? Some of your flirting talents might be wasted on him.
Posted by geminiflybyPosted by stardustmop
To be fair you brought up the other men in both scenarios. If I were dating a man and he constantly brought up other women I would wonder if he was trying to friend zone me. Especially given that he seems to have baggage and commitment issues.
I don't see it that way at all! And if I was the OP I'd step on his shit HARD. He's acting like an ass when it was him who called for this arrangement. My reaction? Not funny and not appreciated. And he's certainly not even acting like a FRIEND at this point.
You are being FAR too nice to this guy. Dickmatized..........smh..........click to expand

Posted by stardustmopPosted by Undine
Dxpers suggesting that a woman who mentions men (aka half of the population) working in her sight deserves to be subjected to abuse by a man she used to date are seriously deluded.
You said yourself it’s her attempting to flirt. So is she just casually chatting about her day or is she flirting by intentionally bringing up other men?click to expand

Posted by Indigo1974Posted by Maxian
I think you're fabricating things that are not there. He just wants to work on the friendship, take his word for it.
If you're bringing up men as an incentive, that's not going to work and you'll only push him away further.
If his situation is a wonky offer to you, I'd suggest you move on and be really friends instead of this half-half stuff.
But I don’t understand how this is “bringing up other men.“. In the first case, it was not even a real person and just a joke. In the second case, it was literally just conversation about somebody he knows and commenting on their age.click to expand
Posted by UndinePosted by stardustmopPosted by Undine
Dxpers suggesting that a woman who mentions men (aka half of the population) working in her sight deserves to be subjected to abuse by a man she used to date are seriously deluded.
You said yourself it’s her attempting to flirt. So is she just casually chatting about her day or is she flirting by intentionally bringing up other men?
So what...? Is she not allowed to do both? Talk about her day and use some humour/banter?click to expand
Posted by TruemaraPosted by Indigo1974Posted by Maxian
I think you're fabricating things that are not there. He just wants to work on the friendship, take his word for it.
If you're bringing up men as an incentive, that's not going to work and you'll only push him away further.
If his situation is a wonky offer to you, I'd suggest you move on and be really friends instead of this half-half stuff.
But I don’t understand how this is “bringing up other men.“. In the first case, it was not even a real person and just a joke. In the second case, it was literally just conversation about somebody he knows and commenting on their age.
He was joking backclick to expand

Posted by Indigo1974Posted by UndinePosted by stardustmopPosted by Undine
Dxpers suggesting that a woman who mentions men (aka half of the population) working in her sight deserves to be subjected to abuse by a man she used to date are seriously deluded.
You said yourself it’s her attempting to flirt. So is she just casually chatting about her day or is she flirting by intentionally bringing up other men?
So what...? Is she not allowed to do both? Talk about her day and use some humour/banter?
And the first incident was just joking around, and the second was just commenting on a man’s AGE. How is that flirting or provocative? Can I no longer comment on anything objective without an opinion about a man? Like a silly pattern of a shirt, a crazy hair style , his shoes? Because apparently commenting on their age is off-limits.click to expand


Posted by Indigo1974Posted by Undine
This is how Cancer's inability to banter looks like!
Are you a Gem? Some of your flirting talents might be wasted on him.
Close. Libra sun, Aquarius moon.click to expand

Posted by Indigo1974Posted by Undine
This is how Cancer's inability to banter looks like!
Are you a Gem? Some of your flirting talents might be wasted on him.
Close. Libra sun, Aquarius moon.click to expand
Posted by aquarius09Posted by Indigo1974Posted by Undine
This is how Cancer's inability to banter looks like!
Are you a Gem? Some of your flirting talents might be wasted on him.
Close. Libra sun, Aquarius moon.
If you’re a Libra with Aqua moon, save your time for an air or earth sign. Cancers can be pretty insecure. One of the cancer dudes I was interested in would get obnoxiously overprotective every time I spoke to another man, as if the next guy was ready to bite me. I wasn’t even dating him. We just liked each other. I called it off all together because I don’t even wanna see the big picture. Besides jealousy like theirs is all cute and nice in the beginning, for like one week. After that, it’s just plain intrusive.click to expand

Posted by Indigo1974Posted by aquarius09Posted by Indigo1974Posted by Undine
This is how Cancer's inability to banter looks like!
Are you a Gem? Some of your flirting talents might be wasted on him.
Close. Libra sun, Aquarius moon.
If you’re a Libra with Aqua moon, save your time for an air or earth sign. Cancers can be pretty insecure. One of the cancer dudes I was interested in would get obnoxiously overprotective every time I spoke to another man, as if the next guy was ready to bite me. I wasn’t even dating him. We just liked each other. I called it off all together because I don’t even wanna see the big picture. Besides jealousy like theirs is all cute and nice in the beginning, for like one week. After that, it’s just plain intrusive.
Believe me, I’ve thought about all the different ways that this will not end well. We’re just so compatible in so many ways, and especially in the bedroom. It is really hard to walk away from sex that good, lol. Plus, at my age of 47 and being a wheelchair user, I really don’t have too many options here. I know that’s a crappy excuse for putting up with someone’s BS, but at my age in my situation, it’s just a reality. You put up with a lot more than you think you would in your 20s.click to expand


Posted by geminiflyby
I had a similar (thankfully brief) experience with a Cancer guy and the sex was G-R-E-A-T. And I learned my lesson. Sex is not love. It was so passionate that I was literally blind to the fact that he was interested only in that. I gathered the little crumbs of time and affection that he tossed my way and thought if it was that good for me and I was feeling all these feels, then SURELY he must be, too. Wrong!
I put up with all sorts of his nonsense because I couldn't wait for our next romp. Dickmatized. Haha! He offered me an FWB and I just said sorry, no but I have more respect for myself and you for that. (I think I was lying about the "you" part to him but I did want him to feel like shit....so.....) And I left that gorgeous dick in the rear-view.
Maybe someone else would have been happy with that. Maybe you will be happy with what you get from him. You're gonna have to be because sister, he has all the "power" now. I see you repeating my mistakes and your ending won't be pretty. If you want the sex to continue, then by all means - do it! But it's gonna come at a price.

Posted by UndinePosted by Indigo1974Posted by aquarius09Posted by Indigo1974Posted by Undine
This is how Cancer's inability to banter looks like!
Are you a Gem? Some of your flirting talents might be wasted on him.
Close. Libra sun, Aquarius moon.
If you’re a Libra with Aqua moon, save your time for an air or earth sign. Cancers can be pretty insecure. One of the cancer dudes I was interested in would get obnoxiously overprotective every time I spoke to another man, as if the next guy was ready to bite me. I wasn’t even dating him. We just liked each other. I called it off all together because I don’t even wanna see the big picture. Besides jealousy like theirs is all cute and nice in the beginning, for like one week. After that, it’s just plain intrusive.
Believe me, I’ve thought about all the different ways that this will not end well. We’re just so compatible in so many ways, and especially in the bedroom. It is really hard to walk away from sex that good, lol. Plus, at my age of 47 and being a wheelchair user, I really don’t have too many options here. I know that’s a crappy excuse for putting up with someone’s BS, but at my age in my situation, it’s just a reality. You put up with a lot more than you think you would in your 20s.
You make a common mistake for women over 40, thinking that sex will always play a major role in your life. FAR FROM IT. Not only that sex takes only a small percentage of your life, but the female libido falls off a cliff after the menopause. You'll soon find it quite convenient that most men over 50 have ED! Maybe the reason your Cancer started to deny you sex, was that his Viagra stash temporarily run out. Or he's afraid he could not repeat his novelty-based "stellar" performance next time, and would do better with a woman who is less sexual than you are in the future...
What really matters is being with someone who allows you to be yourself. Who enjoys similar things in life. Has a similar sense of humour, so you could laugh at each others jokes. Doesn't stop you from doing things you enjoy. Doesn't get petty with you. Doesn't get offended easily, accuses or criticises you for things many would consider normal. Pulls his weight in the daily life. Gives and takes in the same measure.click to expand



Posted by saggurl88Posted by UndinePosted by Indigo1974Posted by aquarius09Posted by Indigo1974Posted by Undine
This is how Cancer's inability to banter looks like!
Are you a Gem? Some of your flirting talents might be wasted on him.
Close. Libra sun, Aquarius moon.
If you’re a Libra with Aqua moon, save your time for an air or earth sign. Cancers can be pretty insecure. One of the cancer dudes I was interested in would get obnoxiously overprotective every time I spoke to another man, as if the next guy was ready to bite me. I wasn’t even dating him. We just liked each other. I called it off all together because I don’t even wanna see the big picture. Besides jealousy like theirs is all cute and nice in the beginning, for like one week. After that, it’s just plain intrusive.
Believe me, I’ve thought about all the different ways that this will not end well. We’re just so compatible in so many ways, and especially in the bedroom. It is really hard to walk away from sex that good, lol. Plus, at my age of 47 and being a wheelchair user, I really don’t have too many options here. I know that’s a crappy excuse for putting up with someone’s BS, but at my age in my situation, it’s just a reality. You put up with a lot more than you think you would in your 20s.
You make a common mistake for women over 40, thinking that sex will always play a major role in your life. FAR FROM IT. Not only that sex takes only a small percentage of your life, but the female libido falls off a cliff after the menopause. You'll soon find it quite convenient that most men over 50 have ED! Maybe the reason your Cancer started to deny you sex, was that his Viagra stash temporarily run out. Or he's afraid he could not repeat his novelty-based "stellar" performance next time, and would do better with a woman who is less sexual than you are in the future...
What really matters is being with someone who allows you to be yourself. Who enjoys similar things in life. Has a similar sense of humour, so you could laugh at each others jokes. Doesn't stop you from doing things you enjoy. Doesn't get petty with you. Doesn't get offended easily, accuses or criticises you for things many would consider normal. Pulls his weight in the daily life. Gives and takes in the same measure.
The first paragraph makes me sad if this is true 😭
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Posted by geminiflyby
Good for you! That's taking control. Now - observe and see if his actions line up with his words from now on.



Posted by Indigo1974Posted by geminiflyby
Good for you! That's taking control. Now - observe and see if his actions line up with his words from now on.
I’m breaking it off. All of it. He’s not putting in the effort and doesn’t seem to be interested in spending that much time with me, yet he pulls this jealous passive aggressive stuff. He says he wants me in his life, stares at me when he thinks I’m not looking, tells me how much he loves spending time with me, but I can’t be in his life at all if he doesn’t show interest or effort in being in mine. It’s confusing and unfair. I can’t do it anymore. I’m amazed I made it three months before hitting the breaking point.click to expand
Posted by geminiflyby
His actions tell you everything there is to know. I was afraid it was going to go this route. So sorry this happened to you because I know how much this hurts. You were in it with your heart and he with his dick. If he REALLY wants you, he knows how to find you and how to get you. There is nothing more you can do here other than to learn and move on. You sound like a beautiful spirit and I know someone out there will appreciate you for who you are.
Posted by Moloko_vellocet
In hindsight, I think you were the insecure one and you initially tried to get a reaction to see if he’d get jealous.
Now that you know he teases women about younger guys, you don’t feel that special.
You want more and he isn’t giving it so you tried to make him jealous or see if it’s true about cancers.
You wanted him more than he wanted you, so now you’re running it off and ending it
Big ego
Posted by Indigo1974Posted by Moloko_vellocet
In hindsight, I think you were the insecure one and you initially tried to get a reaction to see if he’d get jealous.
Now that you know he teases women about younger guys, you don’t feel that special.
You want more and he isn’t giving it so you tried to make him jealous or see if it’s true about cancers.
You wanted him more than he wanted you, so now you’re running it off and ending it
Big ego
You clearly haven’t read anything I’ve written. If I really wanted to make him jealous, do you think I would do it simply by mentioning a man’s age? If I was trying to make him jealous on purpose, I have 100 different ways of doing that more effectively. And I’m ending it because he’s not doing his part to develop a friendship that he said he wantedclick to expand

Posted by Moloko_vellocetPosted by Indigo1974Posted by Moloko_vellocet
In hindsight, I think you were the insecure one and you initially tried to get a reaction to see if he’d get jealous.
Now that you know he teases women about younger guys, you don’t feel that special.
You want more and he isn’t giving it so you tried to make him jealous or see if it’s true about cancers.
You wanted him more than he wanted you, so now you’re running it off and ending it
Big ego
You clearly haven’t read anything I’ve written. If I really wanted to make him jealous, do you think I would do it simply by mentioning a man’s age? If I was trying to make him jealous on purpose, I have 100 different ways of doing that more effectively. And I’m ending it because he’s not doing his part to develop a friendship that he said he wanted
Yep read your thread.
What you have is called denial.
The fact that you said “I have 100 different ways of doing that more effectively”, just outed your actual character.
Basically I’m not buying your “oh poor me he’s jealous” bs when you are looking for a reaction for the attention you see drifting away.
To grow as a person, you have to start looking at yourself authentically.click to expand


Posted by geminiflyby
@Indigo1974 - ok, I'm gonna ask it. I saw on the Gemini Forum you were with a Gem around the exact same time as this Cancer. What's going on??

Posted by geminiflyby
@Indigo1974 - ok, I'm gonna ask it. I saw on the Gemini Forum you were with a Gem around the exact same time as this Cancer. What's going on??


Posted by Indigo1974
UPDATE: so I told cancer guy how I felt about what he said, namely that his tone and what he said was hurtful to me and I felt disrespected, even if his intent was to be funny. I also told him that it was a painful trigger for me. (he knows that my ex-husband was emotionally abusive for most of our 10 year marriage). He said he understood, and that it was a “comedic misfire.” He said he often jokes around with women our age about ogling younger men, and then he meant no disrespect. I told him I appreciated that, and that I just didn’t take it as teasing. I said that given the complicated nature of our relationship (feelings involved), what he said about that guy being single and maybe my type hit me in a very soft spot. Then all he said this was easily avoidable, he just needed to edit his comedy routine. That’s it. I’ve told him twice that he said something that hurt me, and no apology. Just a passive aggressive, I didn’t mean it. That’s really all I need to know. 😢
Posted by shellshockerPosted by Indigo1974
UPDATE: so I told cancer guy how I felt about what he said, namely that his tone and what he said was hurtful to me and I felt disrespected, even if his intent was to be funny. I also told him that it was a painful trigger for me. (he knows that my ex-husband was emotionally abusive for most of our 10 year marriage). He said he understood, and that it was a “comedic misfire.” He said he often jokes around with women our age about ogling younger men, and then he meant no disrespect. I told him I appreciated that, and that I just didn’t take it as teasing. I said that given the complicated nature of our relationship (feelings involved), what he said about that guy being single and maybe my type hit me in a very soft spot. Then all he said this was easily avoidable, he just needed to edit his comedy routine. That’s it. I’ve told him twice that he said something that hurt me, and no apology. Just a passive aggressive, I didn’t mean it. That’s really all I need to know. 😢
it sounds more like you're offended he wasn't jealous
comedy is subjective and it was said in jest. why does someone have to apologize for your sensitivities?
drama stirringclick to expand

Posted by geminiflyby
Well that is an interesting turn of events! Is this the first time I'm hearing he is also a work colleague? So this is someone you can't get away from if things go bad again?
I hope things continue along this line or someone is going to have to dust off their resume.

Posted by Indigo1974
I’m coming up on three months with my Cancer guy. Started out very fast and hot and heavy, we slowed down to dating, and now have slowed down to more friends to get to know each other, give him time to heal from some past wounds and be ready to commit. However we are exclusive, not dating or sleeping with anyone else while we do this. We do still kiss and make out, and we are incredibly over the top still sexually attracted to each other, but we took sex off the table because he didn’t want to make past mistakes or hurt me (it’s too emotionally intense). Anyway, because he’s acting pretty laid-back and we’re not dating or sleeping with each other in the traditional sense, a couple of incidents have really caught me off guard, and I’m curious if these are signs of the notorious cancer jealousy.
About a month ago, I was traveling and staying in a hotel room. I am a wheelchair user and often run into problems with the accessible shower hotel rooms. I was complaining to him over text that I would have to take a washcloth bath because I couldn’t use the shower. He asked if the hotel could send somebody to help. I joked around about them sending somebody to give me a washcloth bath, and that because of where I was staying it would probably be somebody who looked like Larry the cable guy, so no thanks. He quickly texted back, “absolutely NOT, lol. Tell them to just turn on the water and then get the F out, lol.” Then today, we were having a more serious conversation just kind of working out the logistics of how to move our friendship along. He was asking about my night last night, and I was telling him how I went to go see a live band that he occasionally plays bass for as a stand in. I casually remarked how my friend had said to me that their full time bass player is only 25 years old, which is notable because most of the live musicians where I live are in their late 30s and 40s. He then snapped very quickly, “oh, him? Yeah, he’s 25. He’s got lots of muscles. Big muscles.” I responded that I wasn’t looking at his muscles. Then he says “oh yeah, and he’s single. Although I don’t know if you would like them that young.” I was pretty stunned, and I just asked him, why would you say that? Then responded that he was just joking and being sarcastic. But he knows that I only have eyes for him, even though I’m barely hanging on by a thread while we’re going through this whole develop the friendship thing. At first I thought, is he maybe suggesting I date this guy? Then I really thought about it, and his tone of voice and how aggressive he sounded was just alarming. I’ve never heard him use that tone with me, and I definitely didn’t find it funny.
Anyway, I don’t wanna make too much of it because we’re just behaving as friends despite the intense physical attraction, and we’re only getting together maybe once every couple of weeks, texting every other day or so. He’s adamant that he doesn’t want me to catch too many feelings while he’s not ready to commit. But yet, these aggressive comments have come out twice now and I’m not sure what to make of it. Thanks for any enlightenment!
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About a month ago, I was traveling and staying in a hotel room. I am a wheelchair user and often run into problems with the accessible shower hotel rooms. I was complaining to him over text that I would have to take a washcloth bath because I couldn’t use the shower. He asked if the hotel could send somebody to help. I joked around about them sending somebody to give me a washcloth bath, and that because of where I was staying it would probably be somebody who looked like Larry the cable guy, so no thanks. He quickly texted back, “absolutely NOT, lol. Tell them to just turn on the water and then get the F out, lol.” Then today, we were having a more serious conversation just kind of working out the logistics of how to move our friendship along. He was asking about my night last night, and I was telling him how I went to go see a live band that he occasionally plays bass for as a stand in. I casually remarked how my friend had said to me that their full time bass player is only 25 years old, which is notable because most of the live musicians where I live are in their late 30s and 40s. He then snapped very quickly, “oh, him? Yeah, he’s 25. He’s got lots of muscles. Big muscles.” I responded that I wasn’t looking at his muscles. Then he says “oh yeah, and he’s single. Although I don’t know if you would like them that young.” I was pretty stunned, and I just asked him, why would you say that? Then responded that he was just joking and being sarcastic. But he knows that I only have eyes for him, even though I’m barely hanging on by a thread while we’re going through this whole develop the friendship thing. At first I thought, is he maybe suggesting I date this guy? Then I really thought about it, and his tone of voice and how aggressive he sounded was just alarming. I’ve never heard him use that tone with me, and I definitely didn’t find it funny.
Anyway, I don’t wanna make too much of it because we’re just behaving as friends despite the intense physical attraction, and we’re only getting together maybe once every couple of weeks, texting every other day or so. He’s adamant that he doesn’t want me to catch too many feelings while he’s not ready to commit. But yet, these aggressive comments have come out twice now and I’m not sure what to make of it. Thanks for any enlightenment!