Some co-relation between MBTI's INTP & Cancerians
This topic was created in the Cancer forum by flyingfoxes on Thursday, February 28, 2008 and has 9 replies.
A Personal Perspective
By Bo Ahlberg
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The key to getting to an INTP's emotional core is making it a safe thing for them to do... (Especially for the Male INTP but also true for our INTP Sisters.) Dealing with emotion not something we are comfortable with because of the energy that is there. Dealing with emotion is something that represents pain to us and generally in proportion to the level of energy present. Of the few times where the inner me has been allowed "out of the box" it has not been well received by those around me... the result is that the "box" just gets harder to open each time.
Another thing is you have to "allow them to get there"... I can remember times when I've been very upset about something and I really wanted to let go of all of the emotional energy but was consistently prevented by people who "were trying to help". For me (can't speak for all INTPs) emotions are, in effect, tied to events... events are tied to memories... and memories are tied to "trains of thought".
So, if you want me to discover my emotional side... let me follow the path...
The problem comes from when people "try to help". For all there "help" what they do is unlink the process and interrupt the chain by asking the wrong questions and making unneeded suggestions... just let the conversation follow its course... ask, "how do you feel about that" or better "what do you think about that"... don't relate it back to your life... don't try to draw a comparison to your own life... because unless you are INTP (which means you're not likely to even consider doing this) your way of getting to the emotional issue is likely different.
Who an INTP is on the outside can be as much about what scars they wear from dealing with people as it does who they really are... its not easy getting past the wounds because they are there to protect the INTP from further emotional attack like a set of armor.
Only those who don't know us think were unemotional... we only try to keep the emotions from interfering in our lives...
By Bo Ahlberg
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The key to getting to an INTP's emotional core is making it a safe thing for them to do... (Especially for the Male INTP but also true for our INTP Sisters.) Dealing with emotion not something we are comfortable with because of the energy that is there. Dealing with emotion is something that represents pain to us and generally in proportion to the level of energy present. Of the few times where the inner me has been allowed "out of the box" it has not been well received by those around me... the result is that the "box" just gets harder to open each time.
Another thing is you have to "allow them to get there"... I can remember times when I've been very upset about something and I really wanted to let go of all of the emotional energy but was consistently prevented by people who "were trying to help". For me (can't speak for all INTPs) emotions are, in effect, tied to events... events are tied to memories... and memories are tied to "trains of thought".
So, if you want me to discover my emotional side... let me follow the path...
The problem comes from when people "try to help". For all there "help" what they do is unlink the process and interrupt the chain by asking the wrong questions and making unneeded suggestions... just let the conversation follow its course... ask, "how do you feel about that" or better "what do you think about that"... don't relate it back to your life... don't try to draw a comparison to your own life... because unless you are INTP (which means you're not likely to even consider doing this) your way of getting to the emotional issue is likely different.
Who an INTP is on the outside can be as much about what scars they wear from dealing with people as it does who they really are... its not easy getting past the wounds because they are there to protect the INTP from further emotional attack like a set of armor.
Only those who don't know us think were unemotional... we only try to keep the emotions from interfering in our lives...
Interesting....I'm ENFP though.
*correlation*
Im an ENFP cancer.. it fits me well..
I'm an INFJ
That's cool. But the down side of that is it could make you seem like you're always uncertain or unconfident about your uniqueness.
hm...we have extroverts & introverts here. At least, we are all intuitive. which is a trait of cancerians. Seldom see a cancerian who is strong on the sensing part, seldom.
"But the down side of that is it could make you seem like you're always uncertain or unconfident about your uniqueness."
This is so bloody true. Many people mistook me as not having confidence, while in actual fact, when I appear uncertain or not confident, it is because I couldn't bloody be bothered or I bloody hated doing something, which I thought is so bloody stoopid.
"But the down side of that is it could make you seem like you're always uncertain or unconfident about your uniqueness."
This is so bloody true. Many people mistook me as not having confidence, while in actual fact, when I appear uncertain or not confident, it is because I couldn't bloody be bothered or I bloody hated doing something, which I thought is so bloody stoopid.
"true. INTPs do spend more time convincing themselves of a fact than the other person while arguing. "
I agree this as well. Many times, I do make statements, intuitively, though not convinced 100% myself. It is through arguing with the other person, that I see more & more clearly the point that I am driving at. It is because through argument, questions that the other person raised, you get to think deeper & put yourself in various perspective, & the point you are arguing will either be closer to, or farther from the truth, which INTP is MOST concern with. Rather than who is right or who is wrong.
Knowing the truth, allows the INTP to make better decisions now & in future.
I agree this as well. Many times, I do make statements, intuitively, though not convinced 100% myself. It is through arguing with the other person, that I see more & more clearly the point that I am driving at. It is because through argument, questions that the other person raised, you get to think deeper & put yourself in various perspective, & the point you are arguing will either be closer to, or farther from the truth, which INTP is MOST concern with. Rather than who is right or who is wrong.
Knowing the truth, allows the INTP to make better decisions now & in future.
I have my Sun & Ascendant in Cancer, but with very close aspects like :
-Sun Trine Uranus
-Ascendant Trine Uranus
-Venus Trine Uranus
-Mars Quintile Uranus
which some astrology mentioned of possessing aquarian qualities. I agree totally as I am very much aloof & detached like an aquarian, & repelled to attachment, possessiveness & clingyness.
-Sun Trine Uranus
-Ascendant Trine Uranus
-Venus Trine Uranus
-Mars Quintile Uranus
which some astrology mentioned of possessing aquarian qualities. I agree totally as I am very much aloof & detached like an aquarian, & repelled to attachment, possessiveness & clingyness.
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