cappy bachelor, no sex --any ideas?

This topic was created in the Capricorn forum by eastwest on Saturday, April 5, 2014 and has 34 replies.
okay, he is not gay, he IS capable (had it once),, in short, im in love w this great guy, over forty (im 10yrs younger),never married, no kids, never lived w anyone, never been in a relationship longer than 6months, a business guy, busy, social,handsome,,,,we've started dating, when i was just split from my ex, and was pregnant 4months, he didnt know it at first, so was pretty physical (or horny?), touching here and there, then on our 3rd date i told him i was pregnant, that was the biggest magic night in my life, as he was the one to acceot the fact so positively and not to leave me on my own. ..so we continued to hang out,,, now it's been 10months (around 3 months i was away, though still kept in touch), sex once (my initiative, was 5 or 6 months), kisses on goodbye, THATS ALL (no any other physical touches, hand in hand, etc), texts everyday,??_??_.he loooooooves the baby (im even jealous not to receive as much of his attention as she does!;;Winking we'd normally sleep in one bed, still he would not touch!!!! if i'd touch he'd either be cold as stone, or tell me to sleep,,,, well, i see he cares of me/us,he's helpful, handy,supportive, would always listen and advice,would regularly take out for lunch or dinner (i'd say 1-2 a week),, would sometimes call me dear, or by the 1st letter of my name, or sweetie on special occasion,,he let us live in w him for a good 1.5 month, one bed, still nothing (i would not insist as dreading of rejection;; )
he would introduce me as a to random people,, did meet part of his friends/partners, never asked what he'd tell them about me/us,,
So What The Heck?
Would he ever marry me? (i know it's crazy, but i do see him as my husband) ..even though just recently asked him if he sees himself still single in 10yrs,,he said there's no reason why he wouldnt, he likes it this way.
What should I do to get things moving on? ..im leo, btw
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You are both crazy.
Go ahead and propose though.
There's a child involved here.
I honestly can't understand how a 40 something male can get involved with you, knowing you're pregnant, see that through with you, then say he sees himself as being single. It is an incredibly ridiculous thing to do.
I'm not going to be judgemental over you because I have no idea how difficult it must be facing being a single parent, but I really think you need to take a look at whether having someone so strongly involved with your child who you're in a "sorta" relationship with is a good thing.
Posted by eastwest
What should I do to get things moving on? ..im leo, btw
~~~~~~~thnx


If it was going to happen, it would have.
He sees himself single-- enough said.
You will continue to be frustrated because he isn't serving up the goodies, and it will take a toll on your self-esteem (if it hasn't already).
It will not change.
Why would he do this?
It is serving a purpose for him-- it must be.
What do you do for him?
@Eastwest....
This can indiciate a myriad of things....
1) He IS gay (may still be in the closet) and using you as a 'social beard.'
2) He may be straight, and because the relationship was rushed prematurely, he may want to rectify it with a tradtional courtship, get to know you, and take it slow. His intentions may be altruistic.
3) You have "Daddy Issues and Codependent Issues" and he has a "Captain Save-A-Damsel-In-Distress Syndrome...it wasn't sex that got his adrenaline pumping....but the reassurance that he's your hero, knight and shining armor. Stroke that ego once more, and maybe you will get him in the sack again.
wow,,,,that's pretty much of serious stuff you guys posted in here!..really appreciate that!^^
i see there are a few points i missed out. when i was saying how he'd behave in public w me,,well, to all the random people he'd just introduce me as a *Friend*. and to all of his friends, i dont really know, he'd just say my name,, never asked, but dont expect any "upgrade"
and also, - just talking sex here - i feed (and half times in his presence), and before that i had a belly (petite), would that possibly be turn offs for him? for a guy?.. NB i do look good, im pretty, and have no extra weight on me.
Posted by Montgomery
Posted by eastwest
What should I do to get things moving on? ..im leo, btw
~~~~~~~thnx


If it was going to happen, it would have.
He sees himself single-- enough said.
You will continue to be frustrated because he isn't serving up the goodies, and it will take a toll on your self-esteem (if it hasn't already).
It will not change.
Why would he do this?
It is serving a purpose for him-- it must be.
What do you do for him?

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so why is he doing this? what's the purpose for him? WHY DOESNT HE HAVE SEX w ME? at least that could be one purpose- to get laid >>
..yeah, and well-stated on the self-esteem, gotta admit, not to mention that im not entirely over the issues i had w my ex (that was long term, taurus he was, pretty complicated),,,
and what i do for him- im positive, relaxed, not demanding girl w a cute child, sharing some common interests, frequently complimenting him and bringing some warmth into his house and heart, hopefully,,, i know he sees me attractive too.
Posted by RichCap
There's a child involved here.
I honestly can't understand how a 40 something male can get involved with you, knowing you're pregnant, see that through with you, then say he sees himself as being single. It is an incredibly ridiculous thing to do.
I'm not going to be judgemental over you because I have no idea how difficult it must be facing being a single parent, but I really think you need to take a look at whether having someone so strongly involved with your child who you're in a "sorta" relationship with is a good thing.


RichCap, agree on that in reg w my child,,,i actually just had that kind of thoughts the other night, was crying pretty heavily realising that this Man that I've been trusting so much, relying so much, is just not gonna realise my dream to have a full family, as he is not commited, and oh my being so naive, he might very likely have girls/flings on the side!!!!! which is so frustratingSad((
also i understood that i cant take any irresponsible steps, gotta have my self respect at height, and be pragmatic about stuff and people around me. ??_and frankly was about to withdraw out of this,,,,, still wasnt that brave,,,and chose the comfy way (at this moment)-to sleep in at his place..
Focus on your beautiful little baby and what she needs. That will hopefully give you the strength to make the right decisions.
Posted by eastwest
okay, he is not gay, he IS capable (had it once),, in short, im in love w this great guy, over forty (im 10yrs younger),never married, no kids, never lived w anyone, never been in a relationship longer than 6months,



There are so many red flags in this, I can't even count!
BEWARE!!!!
Could u pls be specific????
Are you serious!!!!
NO relationship has lasted more than six months! Red, red, red, red, RED flag!
He's only had sex once?? Good lawdy!
Over 40 and NEVER been married? Need to find out why.
No kids - ehhh, not so much a red flag, but he doesn't have experience here.
This guy has NO IDEA how to sustain a relationship. Either that, or he's the most commitment phobic guy out there.
I have a childhood friend who is 46 and never been married. Not going to be married. EVER. He has had some relationships, but once a girl has mentioned marriage, he dumps her. Just like that. He's too selfish to share his life with anyone else.
Posted by truecap
Are you serious!!!!
NO relationship has lasted more than six months! Red, red, red, red, RED flag!
He's only had sex once?? Good lawdy!
Over 40 and NEVER been married? Need to find out why.
No kids - ehhh, not so much a red flag, but he doesn't have experience here.
This guy has NO IDEA how to sustain a relationship. Either that, or he's the most commitment phobic guy out there.
I have a childhood friend who is 46 and never been married. Not going to be married. EVER. He has had some relationships, but once a girl has mentioned marriage, he dumps her. Just like that. He's too selfish to share his life with anyone else.


george clooney all over again. seriously though, sounds commitmentphobic.
women are going to try and 'save' him and try to lasso this guy into commitment. she'll be the "one."
I am so hoping he is gay because I could live a fabulous relationship vicariously through you!!! That??s been my dream for so long. Just keep him around and find someone else to screw. Since he's single and all..
OP, hook WolfMoon up with him.
I ditto TrueCap. Holy cow, this man is NOT worthy! Whatever his issues are, just run!!
As for having sex with you once proving he's not gay? HA!! HA HA HA HA HA!!! We had a neighbor who was married for 20 yrs and had 3 teen kids and dumped his wife for a man. When they aren't ready to go public some will hide it at all costs. It's called using the woman as a Beard.
Posted by MoonArtist
OP, hook WolfMoon up with him.
I ditto TrueCap. Holy cow, this man is NOT worthy! Whatever his issues are, just run!!


are you guys serious????? you think it is that bad???? ??_but i mean he is my best buddy in town, and he knows about my kid more than anyone else..Sad(
just to update, i've actually got myself together and asked him if he still likes me, he said def I DO,, but within friends level, as he doesnt wanna have any relationship. also he added that he LOVES hanging out w me and my kid.. i said that i like him as a guy, and he repeated that he doesnt wanna a relationship,, i said im not about relationships, im about i like u as a guy, and then he said that's why i dont wanna go into a sexual level, coz it all leads to more (ie attachments and relatinships) shitttt??_.. and then he added that probably i've noticed already that he doesnt need that much sex.. well yeah,,,but??_not so sure..
so like he wants to join us in the trips we go??_. well truly, i'm just confused now in what i want myself, tooo??_ i know for sure i want someone to be my side, be there for me - seems he does that, though more like a friend for sure,,,
ohhhh, and pls drop that GAY thing??_.. i heard stories about neighbours too, though Big Grin
I think he's made it very clear that he doesn't want you in the same way you want him. Usually this ends badly because the wanting person gets hurt the most after spending so much time and energy hoping and trying for more than what's being offered. And what happens when he does find someone to connect with and walks away from you and your kid (who will be attached to him)?
Also, the fact that you are feeling jealous of your own child for the attention it gets from him.....that's a problem, too. You shouldn't be feeling jealous of your child. Not to mention it seems so dang WEIRD that a guy is more into your child then you. Not to accuse him of anything inappropriate, but.....pedophile, maybe?
Posted by eastwest
Posted by MoonArtist
OP, hook WolfMoon up with him.
I ditto TrueCap. Holy cow, this man is NOT worthy! Whatever his issues are, just run!!


are you guys serious????? you think it is that bad???? ??_but i mean he is my best buddy in town, and he knows about my kid more than anyone else..Sad(
just to update, i've actually got myself together and asked him if he still likes me, he said def I DO,, but within friends level, as he doesnt wanna have any relationship. also he added that he LOVES hanging out w me and my kid.. i said that i like him as a guy, and he repeated that he doesnt wanna a relationship,, i said im not about relationships, im about i like u as a guy, and then he said that's why i dont wanna go into a sexual level, coz it all leads to more (ie attachments and relatinships) shitttt??_.. and then he added that probably i've noticed already that he doesnt need that much sex.. well yeah,,,but??_not so sure..
so like he wants to join us in the trips we go??_. well truly, i'm just confused now in what i want myself, tooo??_ i know for sure i want someone to be my side, be there for me - seems he does that, though more like a friend for sure,,,
ohhhh, and pls drop that GAY thing??_.. i heard stories about neighbours too, though Big Grin
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Hey. He sounds like a great guy, in a bestest best friend sort of way. Forget about him romantically and stay friends with him. It's always good to have a best male friend around.
I'm serious. If it doesn't hurt you, keep him as a friend. He's sweet. He's honest. He's caring. He seems like he'd be loyal to his friends. Can't get much better than that as a friend.
Posted by MoonArtist
I think he's made it very clear that he doesn't want you in the same way you want him. Usually this ends badly because the wanting person gets hurt the most after spending so much time and energy hoping and trying for more than what's being offered. And what happens when he does find someone to connect with and walks away from you and your kid (who will be attached to him)?
Also, the fact that you are feeling jealous of your own child for the attention it gets from him.....that's a problem, too. You shouldn't be feeling jealous of your child. Not to mention it seems so dang WEIRD that a guy is more into your child then you. Not to accuse him of anything inappropriate, but.....pedophile, maybe?


I don't get pedophile vibes from what she's said.
You are right though. There are some issues. So, eastwest, can you be just friends with him?
Oh girl! You should go read my post, about my 30 yr relationship with my cap. He is in his 40s, never married, no kids, no long term g/f. I'm the first female he has ever lived with. The day I moved in, he put me in the friend zone! It's been a year, we still live together, and I'm still in the friend zone. Good luck girl!
Posted by jkc3
Oh girl! You should go read my post, about my 30 yr relationship with my cap. He is in his 40s, never married, no kids, no long term g/f. I'm the first female he has ever lived with. The day I moved in, he put me in the friend zone! It's been a year, we still live together, and I'm still in the friend zone. Good luck girl!


Oh wow lol. Are women attracted to him?
How does these guys feel about their lives? Like fo they seem unhappy, depressed, content, happy etc?
hey guys??_..have been offline for a while??_. just your posts are so entertaining! and seems it's like the whole team of Pro's got over for help!! that is sooo great!!!! I appreciate it so much!smile
well??_.what i have to say about being friends, it is as my great mentor said - yes, a good friend is a valuable asset to have as well. do agree on that. though,,,,,,im sorry, he is just too sexy for me,,,,,, and im not saying im dying for sex, but yeah, he is very manly^
so the last thing i did, i went on and talked to him once again,i told him I gotta talk to him (had never asked him of this before), this is how desperate i was (gotta see me shaking and pale!::>>Winking. I just thought i gotta share w him what was going on w me, so when i totally honestly told him that i am not sure if I can be friends w him, he was kinda surprised to hear this as the reason of me being recently so down and confused,,,, then he was all totally sorry,, saying sorry for misleading, sorry for just wanting a friendship and that it has always been like that, so on., i wasnt blaming him at all, just wanted to share, told him that, as well as that i dont wanna be miserable, said that feel as a loser who couldnt get the signals right ,said that i see him as a man, that he is my closest person in the country (we are both living overseas), he was just sorry all over,,, he was still saying that we CAN be friends, that i gotta try,,, then i told him that i dont believe in a true friendship between a man and a woman, and he was opposing that giving some examples out of his own life,, and adding [*Listen To This*] that yeah, sometimes stuff can happen in between of this or that friendship, and it's nothing wrong with that, you just continue being friends,,,,,, HAHA, basically he had just proven to me this way, that there cant be purely best friendship between a man & a woman (i know many of you might support him in this statement). ??_anyways, i felt better after, as it seems i got rid of my pain or smth, he hugged me so firmly and kept this way for long, saying that i'll be fine,,, so i still have him there for me, and it is so important to me and makes me secure. HOwever, i still wonder, well he doesnt keep in touch on everyday basis with any of his male or female friends (except for his close business partners-friends) ??_??_. ALSO, would you let anyone into your sheets??!! literally, he leaves his home door open to me, letting me come over whenever i want, using his whatever stuff i ne
oh got cutt off??_ >>>
ALSO, would you let anyone into your sheets??!! literally, he leaves his home door open to me, letting me come over whenever i want, using his whatever stuff i need and letting me sleep in his bed whenever he's away on trips??_. and true, there should be something underlying (i mean isnt it that all the bachelors should be having some issues?.. i mean nothing wrong w that, everyone have issues anyway))))
??_ Is this some kinda game we are playing without naming it???_ can anyone give me hope on that?^^))
No game, I don't think. I think he is truly your friend. I understand why you can't be friends with him.
Maybe after some time passes and those romantic feelings go away, you might want to consider the friendship thing. If you were interested in someone else it would be easier.
Just do what's right for you in the long run.
Thanks for updating.
Posted by eastwest
oh got cutt off??_ >>>
ALSO, would you let anyone into your sheets??!! literally, he leaves his home door open to me, letting me come over whenever i want, using his whatever stuff i need and letting me sleep in his bed whenever he's away on trips??_. and true, there should be something underlying (i mean isnt it that all the bachelors should be having some issues?.. i mean nothing wrong w that, everyone have issues anyway))))
??_ Is this some kinda game we are playing without naming it???_ can anyone give me hope on that?^^))


Laughing ahem...maybe you're his burglar alarm cause he trusts you so much.Laughing
HAHA on the bUrglar Alarmsmile))) but hey, guuuuuuuyyyys, please not this path! LOL
We live in one of the safest countries in the world, wouldnt be this case for sure, we both know that. Im just saying would there be any space in the future for him to grow up romantically towards me?????_ what i meant is, c'mon i'd be sick at the thought of having ANy of my friends in my bedsheets, and im not kidding!??_. i mean OK, so we are friends, he takes care of me, looks after us, hangs out w us-- he is this free empty seat, it doesnt stay empty for too long,,, i 'm kinda close to it, can i be the one taking it??.. am i wrong w this sequence? ||
still thing to note, def im not HIS BEST friend, as he is not open to me as much as he would be to his 20yrs long male friend,,,,,,, should i just try to have him open up more to me? ie to continue us to know each other more?..smile ohhhh, these are just sentences from a book,, whatever ??_..i mean im just smashing myself to this same wall - I DO like him, and I'd like us to work out!??_??_??_??_...
HOW?
WHAT IS THE WAY?
Posted by eastwest
HAHA on the bUrglar Alarmsmile))) but hey, guuuuuuuyyyys, please not this path! LOL
We live in one of the safest countries in the world, wouldnt be this case for sure, we both know that. Im just saying would there be any space in the future for him to grow up romantically towards me?????_ what i meant is, c'mon i'd be sick at the thought of having ANy of my friends in my bedsheets, and im not kidding!??_. i mean OK, so we are friends, he takes care of me, looks after us, hangs out w us-- he is this free empty seat, it doesnt stay empty for too long,,, i 'm kinda close to it, can i be the one taking it??.. am i wrong w this sequence? ||
still thing to note, def im not HIS BEST friend, as he is not open to me as much as he would be to his 20yrs long male friend,,,,,,, should i just try to have him open up more to me? ie to continue us to know each other more?..smile ohhhh, these are just sentences from a book,, whatever ??_..i mean im just smashing myself to this same wall - I DO like him, and I'd like us to work out!??_??_??_??_...


lol well he can always wash his sheets out you knowLaughing
if he's not wanting to pin you against the bedsheets, i don't know what he's waiting for. for the "right" moment? Sounds like a whole lotta fear..... or he is unsure of you sexually and romantically.
don't get your hopes up. it's terrible to get them so high and then only to crash down.
Posted by Damnata
You are both crazy.
Go ahead and propose though.


i like this answer! Big Grin
@truecap, remember you mentioned your friend, 46? being life-time friends w him can u track back or do u understand what it is that he is so averse to the marriage word as you say?
Posted by eastwest
@truecap, remember you mentioned your friend, 46? being life-time friends w him can u track back or do u understand what it is that he is so averse to the marriage word as you say?


No, I have no idea as to why he is averse to marriage. It's just not something he's interested in and I don't know why or how he has shaped that opinion.

lol well he can always wash his sheets out you knowLaughing
if he's not wanting to pin you against the bedsheets, i don't know what he's waiting for. for the "right" moment? Sounds like a whole lotta fear..... or he is unsure of you sexually and romantically.
don't get your hopes up. it's terrible to get them so high and then only to crash down.


oh you are just hilarious Big GrinDD well yeah he's got a house maid for all the house stuff.
yeah but with the hopes you are right, of course,,the least thing i wanna hurt myself or look/become miserable,, just that i mean those hopes are not coming out of nowhere!??_..dont you guys think so?.. it's like intuition - it's nothing more than non-verbal signs/marks that your brain notices before you dosmile so and my hopes??_..hey, a pot doesnt sound on its own - its gotta be two of them ^^Winking)
so just emphasising again, the fact that he's never been in a serious long-term relationship to me are not only red flags, but also green flags so to say:..) so that i feel i have the doors opened for MAybe showing him something he's never experienced??_.. does it make sense to anyone?.. or do i sound totally silly in this??!..
and NO, i wouldnt go for proposing myself first,,he's gotta get into that experience first
HI everyone, just back here again??_. yes, confused??_ well, we are keeping up the same line, more or less the same as before, no change in the bedroom, except once a minor one, when he (his body) got close to me and i jumped out of bed freaking out that there might be changes awaitingBig GrinDDD ??_i mean yeah, i still want him badly, but on steady terms..if you know what i meanTongue he has put me in the friends zone, so no cute words, no touches, no kisses any more..sometimes i would even throw long faces to him or cold shoulder or not be that nice (as a result of my inner uneasiness..)
so but hmm, here's actually one big thing - that he is totally into my baby..he shows her all his gentleness and love, and care - i can melt down right there watching him with her!! whereas me not getting even an eight part of that attention??_i mean yeah, i can get jealous big timeBig Grin and i feel frustrated at times, thinking that yes, he CAN be very kind and fun and loving, but not with me..Sad( just a fact. wonder, is this all older guys (childless) get crazy about kids? and no, there is no such evidence that he cant have children himself,, guess normally you'd need to try it first to get confirmed about it,whereas he had told me before he's never been even closer to it with any woman. ??_well, so here's the question - is he really into my baby only, and im zero attractive to him? i've always thought you get down in love with a woman, and then goes a child of hers..
Also, we are spending quite a lot of time together, and at his place, too. we still do sleep in one bed (w nothing going on;;;Winking im not initiating it either (should I?)??_ i mean could he be having any problems in *that* department (though ONCE when it happened between us in the beginning i couldn't sense it) ?????_..

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