Contemplating a Cap Man

This topic was created in the Capricorn forum by gslove on Thursday, January 24, 2008 and has 33 replies.
Hello all! I just broke up with a Leo. Everything was going great, he told me he loved me and then all of a sudden he pulled away completely and now I have to see him online cruising for other women every night.
Now I am contemplating going out with a cap, but am getting very discouraged by all the posts I have been reading about their tendencies to pull away and all of their intamacy issues.
Is this just a common thing with men in general?? I can't seem to find one who doesn't want to pull away as soon as I start to trust that they like me and let myself like them back no matter what sign they are. My problem is that they usually do try to come back eventually, but by that time I feel so hurt that I don't take them back because I feel like I can never trust them again. Like with this Leo. How can I trust him again when he comes to his senses and contacts me again knowing that he was out looking for other women the whole time we were seperated. Am I going to have to take them back if I ever want to be in a relationship or is there a possiblity to find a guy who really does want a relationship and isn't scared and doesn't pull away. I keep hearing that when you find the right one that it does not feel like work and everything just naturally flows and there are no games. When is this ever going to happen? Or is that just too unrealistic :-)
I am a Scorpio by the way.
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Don't bother we are not worth the effort. We don't like most people, We are brutality truthful, like if you ask us if a dress makes you look fat. We will tell you know your fat ass makes you look fat. If you are thin skind we will distroy you in A DAY OR TWO.
TO US A RELATIONSHIP JUST ISN'T WORTH THE EFFORT!
I can't go on

Yours Jake
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LOL, Jake, nice to see you! smile
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GSLOVE...
I've had two serious relationships. One with a Leo and one with a Cap. They're both extreme opposites. Go look for a happy medium. Seriously.
If women are on here telling you that their cap is so wonderful and great and that they've learned a lot from them, they're having a great day. However, all you have to do is click on that user's name and check back a few posts prior and you'll see posts reflecting agony and sadness over the same guy that is so wonderful and great that they have learned SO much from. Same story. Find someone else.
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LOL, ditto that. They're weird, GSLove; the more normal ones are the exception, not the norm.
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But he is so cute and sexy :-) Maybe I will just go on one date and find out if he is one of the normal ones.
I have been looking for one in between for a while now. I dated a Virgo who was also a mess, A Sag who was really insecure and a cheater. Actually, now that I think about it one of my very first loves was a goat. He asked me to marry him and I said no. Boy am I dumb ass. He was pretty great! I just wasn't ready at the time.
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"But he is so cute and sexy." lol Yep, he's trouble. Famous FIRST words! Winking
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jake said close to what i would have. for the most part he's right. a relationship is rarely worth effort. though, if conned/convinced into it we may invest heavily.
the brutal honesty, hmm, i suppose so. then again, that's a good thing. that way a woman doesn't go out looking like sausage links because she's chunky, but wears skin tight clothes.
but many have hairs up their asses because they've had a bad relationship, and rather blame the sign, than just say o hey, maybe i had a jerk, or even less likely to say o, maybe i just suck and the guy didn't want me. either way, i wouldn't doubt that most of us don't give a fuck.
just don't play mind games, and don't take any shit, (global advice there). too many try to put blame, or make excuses based on sign, or some other shit. just roll with it for fucks sake and worry about the birthday to make sure you're not getting any preteen weeny. other than that the hell with it.
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"Preteen weeny" LOL How about worrying about just a "teen" or even a teeny weenie? hahaha
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either one works. considering how many teachers hit on my ass when i was in grade school, never can be too sure. i wish they would have taken the time to make sure, well at least the ugly ones. *shivers*
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If it's not worth the effort than is just all about sex for you caps then because if that's the case you guys won't stand a chance with a Scorpio. We are pretty good at drawing you in when we want to. Winking So Genome. Tell us the secret of how Caps can be conned or convinced.
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Eh, i've had a scorpio woman trying to lure me for the last 2 years. hasn't gotten me interested. primarily from her trying to buy me. though i do appreciate the donations.
of which i repay.
well each person has their different preferences of course. but a few traits seem to be common.
don't try secretive. sure, we might stay around to solve the mystery, but it's less likely to be about actual care, and more on the lines of boredom. plus, can be sure that whatever gaps you leave out, someone else will be more than happy to fill. of which, that information may not be favorable.

don't do that jealousy crap. far as i can tell capricorn men don't like to be jealous, nor has anyone i've ever met, saw their capricorn man as being fun when he's jealous.
likely that all hell will break loose if he smells someone elses nut on your breath.
hmm, as i said, don't take any shit. be who you really are. if you pretend to get his ass, well best keep pretending. but if he gets out of place, i guess he's just like anyone else. capricorns can cheat, be loyal, be assholes. we tend to dabble in many things.
also, umm, try not to be incredibly stupid. you don't seem to be, so don't be offended. but i've managed to be surprised by a number of women who start off sounding intelligent, then making me think, omg... this is a stupid bitch. if he thinks that, you can be sure that you're allocated to a never ever situation. trust me, its a quick way to the buddy list, or the get the fuck away from me list. unless he's stupid.
guess its like that with women so i've heard. everything is going smoothly, then uh oh, ooo you had to fuck up. nooo, if you had just kept your mouth closed i would have given you some. *plays loser sound from the prices right*. just trust me on this one. if you aren't well educated, then just let him preach. we love doing that shit.
hmm, having a sexy body helps. if not at least have a nice personality and admirable goals in life.
don't get fucking biased. i see a bunch of sorrowful ass people crying all damn day on this board. booo hoo hoo, i fucking hate capricorns. booo hoo hoo. some are just injured women, who misunderstand about guys. for those, i can feel sympathy. but others are just some depressing bitches. try not to be either. if the guy is a capricorn/leo, whatever, he sucks, he sucks. cry about if needed, that's normal. just don't put a damn nazi flag and put my capricorn ass in a concentration camp.
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Gnome, That was great thanks!!
In an e-mail last night I told my new guy that I was a Scorpio, but didn't consider myself a typical Scorpio and I asked my Cap if he thought of himself as a typical Capricorn and he actually got all bent out of shape about it and started talking about how you shouldn't base anything on astological bull crap and how we are our own creators. blah blah blah!!! I was like jeez I was just trying to make conversation. (I didn't say that to him, I just thought it)
I tried to diffuse the situation. I wrote back to him that I get his frustration with it because I have had men not want to go out with me just because I was a scorpio and that I just think that it is fun to read, but that it's not good to put too much stock into it. Then I quickly changed the subject to something else and I have not had a response back from him yet. We had been e-mailing back and forth all day long every hour prior to that. Could that possibly be a dealbreaker for him? If so, what a weirdo!!! I hate it when people have no flexibility for any opinion but their own and try to make you feel like an idiot for having a different opinion about something.
I have a feeling somebody else in the past has blamed his shortcomings on being a goat. I could understand him getting upset about it if that is all I ever talked about or something, but this was the first time I had ever mentioned anything at all about Astrology.
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Or the fact that you were emailing each other all day then he didn't respond could be the dissapering act that the cap guys do!! They do seem to come and go as they please.
I do not however want to be too negative about the cap men, they have alot of positive aspects to them, they are very sexy and are able to draw you in, they just seem to get really close and then go missing and do not contact you for long periods of time, then they come back as though nothing has happened.
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As a seperate note, my ex was a scorpio - great people they have alot to give in relationships, I am a leo and we got on like a house on fire, the only downside to him was his over possesiveness and jealousy.
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I think it is really risky to bring up astrology with any guy you're interested in, let alone early on in the dating. It tends to make you look like a typical female or even "kooky/out there". It's just not worth it until you know the person better and have a sense of their interests/values, etc.
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Agreed with SB. Most of the caps I know, male and female, have zero interest in astrology.
GSLOVE, of course you cannot generalize all people under their sign but given that this is an astrological forum/site...there ya go. Have fun with you and yours, no matter who you choose to spend your time with.
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Hi CapGirl, Yes I agree, I just didn't think he would take it so seriously I guess.
Satyrsmind, That is exactly what he said about astrology, but I guess he is not too upset about it because he just called to tell me how much he likes me and wants to get together this weekend.
Sammy1, A lot of Scorpios are majorly jealous and possesive for no reason. As a Scorpio I am not the jealous and possesive type unless I have a reason to be and even then I'm very quiet about it. I seem to have this 6th sense when a guy is doing something he isn't supposed to be doing. I just get this really strong feeling that something is not right and I hate when I get that feeling because it's always right. I don't however accuse him or show him these feelings at all. I just sit back and wait to see what happens which is agonizing because I want to confront the situation, but I know that won't change anything. Just like with this Leo I just broke up with. I got such a strong feeling that something was wrong within the first day that he stopped contacting me and I started obsessing about it to a couple of my friends and they thought I was nuts, but I was right. I have still not confronted him about it though. It has been almost 2 weeks now since I have gotten anything but I'm so busy excuse e-mails while I see him cruising for women on Match.com every night. I have just let him move on. I guess I let him off the hook, but I have too much pride to let him know that his actions bothered me in the least.
Everything happens for a reason and I'm hoping this new cap might be that reason. I just have to know that he is open to things other than his own view like I am open to his which I think he may be. After talking to him on the phone this morning I think I might have misunderstood the tone of his e-mail and he was just having a healthy debate with me and not really judging me because he kept telling me this morning that he loves the way I think.
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As far as the disappearing acts everyone is talking about, thats another thing I wouldnt dwell on so much. Don't allow someone elses bad experience to make you insecure about your own situation. I've never had a Cap bf, but I do have some Cap male friends, and they have never disappeared on me. They are always there when you need them and they are some of the most loyal people out there, (assuming they care about you).
Cap males never disappear on their friends, period. Caps, in general, are wonderful and loyal friends. Of course your friends haven't bailed on you. They're rocks and they're your friends.
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"Yes, I hate that too and certain caps have a tendency of doing that, even if it is not their intention to make you feel like an idiot."
much of what is said is utterly ridiculous. when something stupid is said, don't expect people to be like, yes, yes, brilliant. don't worry, that rule should, in my opinion, apply to everyone.
"Eventhough that can be annoying at times, it is also one of the reasons I like Caps. They don't form opinions on a whim, and are usually right about many things."
information that is short, provided fantastic fodder for moronic retorts.
"They are one of the few signs where, though I may not agree with everything they say, it is very rare that I think what they are saying is completely stupid."
No, i, shamefully admit i've said incredibly stupid things. usually revolving the words "i love you", and "sure, i'll do it".
eh,reality has a way of being analyzed, where as dreams can change at will. logic is much easier to argue against than faith. at least with logic, if something doesn't make sense, then its classified as nonsense. in faith, if something is nonsense, its canon. but doesn't stop many people from being curmudgeons.
"Not saying they are completely close minded, but the only way they might sway in their opinion is if what you say is logical and makes absolute sense to them."
umm, ja, heaven forbid people need proof, or reason to change point of views? i'm closed enough to filter out the shit from the real gold nuggets. think of it as a mental crap filter.
"Caps tend to be very accepting of others. As long as his important needs are met (honesty, loyalty, respect, etc) they won't dwell over every little disagreement you have."
yes, long as you don't try to misuse me, i can stand your bullshit like not putting the top back on the milk, or an affordable shoe fetish. long as you don't betray me, like i catch my woman trying to wash out the run off from another man. in that situation, i'm likely to be, fairly disagreeable.
"This is probably an indication that you should aim to be a friend before pursuing a relationship."
well, gee, might be a good thought there. that way, he knows that there is more to the relationship than some good pussy. though, the ratio between good pussy/good friend is dramatically unbalanced. so don't get too angry if he's originally inclined to think of that you are of the majority.
and yes, mspisces, i'm fucking with you o
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"Cap males never disappear on their friends, period."
question is, are we really your friend, or do you just think we are, or because we will sometimes sit through a cry-a-thon?
"Gnome, That was great thanks!!"
no problem.
"They do seem to come and go as they please. "
till i sign a contract to be bound to a ball and chain,
i see no reason to stunt my freedom, or bend to someones oppressive reign.
i rarely give true devotion. not so much out of absolute selfishness, but to make sure i don't fund the tirades of abusive dictators.
basically, if i disappear, and i'm not in a picture on your milk carton in the morning, i'm ducking your ass. or i'm busy (not thinking of you). but, even then, i'm likely to keep in some form of contact, including giving you a method of contacting me. surprisingly enough, many capricorn men i read about are considered smothering once they do show attention.
i'd be careful about tearing a capricorn a new asshole. rip one, and we can give you more shit than you would even want to begin to hope to handle. though, i understand your point.
Get well soon DD.
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Another question!! What does it mean when a man, (a cap man) says that he is an alpha male. I know what I think it means, but I want to hear others opinions.
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means he's the boss, and he's going to be doing the dicking. in other words, don't expect to get sassy w/o some shit in return. So, if he says something, he meant it. I know, many of the times I ask, but when I say do, i mean do, if i say don't, i mean don't. If i have to make someone comply, then, i'll do what i have to. if i have a woman, that woman is mine. the entire woman. her ass, her breath, her heart. don't worry she has property rights on me. so its fair. but when i grab her, that's mine to grab. i shouldn't have to ask for anything, and not afraid to take whats mine.
Might even mean for him, that no sympathy even for a woman (which is stupid to have anyway). Which may mean, don't even think about slapping, or trying to fuck over him.
Far as i've seen there are four major branches of capricorn men. The Dudley Do-Right's, those are the ones that want to status quo, will listen and enforce set laws, blah blah blah. In other words, bs moralist/loyalist. these can also be evil, as they think their agenda is right.
The punks, those are the ones who some how came out submissive. they bark loud (if even that) but want someone to really take control. probably prone to depression more than any of the rest.
the players, well, they know how to bs, and like control. what better way than pimping eh?
the rebels, We like rules, and morals, long as its our rules and morals. So ja, follow the rules, long as they are mine. Not about to take shit, don't care about your rank, or feelings (unless forced, and that's dangerous). Either way, if he can't bust you on your head, he'll talk. If he can't get satisfaction immediately, he'll get it some time.
so like DD said, we might try to diffuse some shit if we care about you, or need you, but , will go off if that's what we must(or can get away with it).
basically, if he said that shit, he's either bluffing, or dangerous. Not that he, will hurt you, but I wouldn't go fuck with him in a bad way, or think you can dominate him.
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This was the conversation:
He is in a seminar today and he texted me and told me that the steroids he was taking today for his cold has him shooting through the roof.
I wrote back "Wow steroids and seminar adrenaline, what a combo! I'm staying away from you for a while"
He wrote back "Don't be silly, silly! U don't really want me staying away from u. Quite the opposite. I am too alpha to fall for that. Good try though Winking"
So I wasn't exactly sure what he meant by that and not exactly sure how I should respond to that. Any suggestions?
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I found this article on the alpha male. Sounds like the Capricorn Male:
The fact is that women are more attracted to alpha males than any other type of male.
If you aren't one at the moment, the good news is that you can learn how to become an alpha male.
What it an alpha male?
The dictionary definition says:
Alpha male (noun): The dominant member in a group of men. Holds strong influence over group activities. Has priority pick when it comes to sex with women.
But, what does that mean?
To help you understand more about what an alpha male is, I'm going to expand on that definition with some real-life examples.

Alpha males convey good status
When a guy walks into a room of people, he will either:
Assume lower status and look around for a leader to follow or get approval from.
Assume that he is the leader (or at least one of the leaders) and simply expect others to follow.
Typically, alpha males are like the second type of guy.
Which are you more like at the moment?
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Alpha males are usually confident enough to be cocky & funny
A lot of guys are afraid of saying and doing the things that they would really like to.
This especially applies in social situations, where guys will often use 'safe' humor and behavior to stay 'under the radar' and not be noticed by people.
Being cocky & funny is a typical alpha male quality that - if done correctly - will make women extremely attracted to you, and guys look up and respect you more.
I've written up some free tips on cocky & funny here.

Alpha males are confident
Alpha males are usually very confident guys.
How about you?
How confident are you around women?
How confident are you around other guys?
Do you feel confident in specific areas of your life?
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Alpha males have more masculine qualities
Much of being an alpha male is judged by the masculinty of your behavior, actions, body language and how you live your life.
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Part 2: How to be the Alpha Male:
Here are a few quick comparisons of being a more masculine guy vs. being a more feminine guy:
Feminine guy Masculine guy
Doesn't really know what he wants in life Knows exactly what he wants and is going after it
Feels intimidated by beautiful women, possibly even a little scared around them Feels confident around beautiful women, knowing that no matter how masculine a woman may behave, she can never be more of a man than he is. "She's just a girl dude?"
Cries when life gets tough Feels the emotion, but remains in control of himself. Focuses on learning from the experience, rather than looking for pity
Feels uncomfortable taking the lead in social situations Comfortably and confidently takes the lead when appropriate

The following is an example of being an alpha male by taking the lead in a social situation.
Imagine that you're at a bar with women/friends and it feels like time to change venues.
You can say something like:
?Okay, let's finish our drinks and go somewhere else. You guys want to go to xyz bar??
Whereas, a guy who isn't an alpha male will lean more towards a question or statement that suggest someone else takes the lead. For example:
"I'm bored, how about you?" and then he'll hope someone else will take the lead and suggest the next action.
Learn more about how to become an alpha male?
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How funny this thing changed the word "C ock y" to chickeny
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Sounds about right... If your Cap. is sexy, cute and calling himself an "alpha male", just watch out, GSLove. Get the Sherry Argov "Why Men Love B*tches" book (not meaning "b*tch" in the mean sense but an acronym); you need to arm yourself with knowledge and a strategy for this one! lol Winking
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Oh believe me I have read that book!! I responded to his message and I said.
"You know that the power of the Alpha male is matched only by the power of the Alpha female Winking"
He wrote back,
"My point exactly, that's why we match..."
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"Don't bother we are not worth the effort. We don't like most people, We are brutality truthful, like if you ask us if a dress makes you look fat. We will tell you know your fat ass makes you look fat. If you are thin skind we will distroy you in A DAY OR TWO.
TO US A RELATIONSHIP JUST ISN'T WORTH THE EFFORT!
I can't go on"
Old Jake ... i don't believe that for second. Its true that on bad/good days a Capi can be more honest than most, but even still, that is stereotyping. I happen to know a Capi who i care for very much - he has never been hurtful ... honest yes with his thoughts or responses to mine, but always tactful. I believe that is the main difference. Anyone who can't handle the truth or doesn't want honesty has no place in my life because i will always say what is on my mind, but i will always do it in such a way as to not hurt the one i am directing it to. The Capi i know, is exactly the same.
To gslove, don't give up on a Capricorn simply because of what you read. These forums are here for venting purposes, so the majority of comments you read about any sign will likely be negative. Capricorns have a softer side, that if you are fortuneate enough to meet a Capi you connect with, you will be given the gift of witnessing this softer side.
And don't listen to OLD JAKE ... i love his stories about all his adventures, but i think he must have been having a bad day when he wrote his comments above.
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amazing I tell them its not worth the effort and they go on and on for ever
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misandry ftw!
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btw thx sherob.
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