Posted by GobshitePosted by truecap
I guess he thought you weren't sincere? Only reason I could think of why he would respond that way. Do you have any ideas why he would do that?
Usually, when a decent Cap responds like that, it's because it wasn't the first time that person was 'full of shit'...
He's now got nothing to lose and has gone into blunt Cap mode.click to expand
Posted by truecap
I'm sorry. I had to laugh, because I did not expect that last sentence.
No, it's not funny. It was rude. I apologize for laughing.
I guess he thought you weren't sincere? Only reason I could think of why he would respond that way. Do you have any ideas why he would do that?
Posted by Gobshite
He's perfectly within his rights to be honest and maybe he's right...
You're the one who didn't want to remain friends with him, but here you are telling us how his awkward behaviour concerned you, and how he wasn't giving you enough attention and eye contact.
At least he had the decency to acknowledge you.
Posted by Skitty
If you feel like you guys were always transparent with one another, why don't you just ask him what he means by that?
Clearly he's salty about something.
Posted by bnr7013
I'm not a cap let me just say that first. I've dated a few caps & have several cap friends - I'm a sag so they are still pretty confusing to me at times. Capipuffs are kinda my favorite though![]()
Your actions prove otherwise to him. If you missed him you would have done something to show that (in his eyes.) IMO it seems like he was reaching for a reaction when you two ended things. This happens when at least one of you can't be vulnerable...or won't be. I've had caps tell me they were seeking a reaction from me by the way.
Things ended >> you did nothing>> he did nothing >> he felt you didn't really care >> you "showed" you didn't really care >> he became bitter >> you miss him (or else you wouldn't be posting) >> he wishes you wouldn't have let things go so "easily"
One of y'all needs to put your mf'n guard down & a cap isn't known to be the first one at it. Good luck!
Posted by GobshitePosted by bnr7013
I also don't doubt that he was the one that ended things. I might get the evil eye on this but they DO stuff like this .... Sometimes I wonder if it's to see how far you'll go?
No, a lot of the time, our instincts know when a relationship's going nowhere. We like to remain true to ourselves, whenever we can. We're not as stubborn or deluded as some other signs.
Sagittarius and Gemini... not the most compatible star signs for a Capricorn. And Sagittarians do have a certain reputation that many Cappies can spot a mile off, no matter how sincere you try to come across.
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Posted by bnr7013
Without a doubt ...cap males can come off as jerks but there's a lot of jelly filling behind that macho front!
I also don't doubt that he was the one that ended things. I might get the evil eye on this but they DO stuff like this .... Sometimes I wonder if it's to see how far you'll go? Almost as if you disappearing from his life so easily was just validation for him ending things in the first place. I'd like to think I'm over analyzing but ...
Anyways, you were out of his league huh? Lol
Posted by balblair
He sounds like a big baby ugh lol
It's clear he is upset and guess what when your upset with someone you care
I wouldn't have thought anything of it...seems like a child throwing some pseudo tantrum
Posted by GobshitePosted by ashley1734
Seems like a perpetual bachelor.
At least he won't be a divorcee, who's been financially screwed by his ex-wife...click to expand
Posted by bnr7013Posted by GobshitePosted by bnr7013
I also don't doubt that he was the one that ended things. I might get the evil eye on this but they DO stuff like this .... Sometimes I wonder if it's to see how far you'll go?
No, a lot of the time, our instincts know when a relationship's going nowhere. We like to remain true to ourselves, whenever we can. We're not as stubborn or deluded as some other signs.
Sagittarius and Gemini... not the most compatible star signs for a Capricorn. And Sagittarians do have a certain reputation that many Cappies can spot a mile off, no matter how sincere you try to come across.
I get what you are trying to say but sometimes it seems like self sabatoge - like when things are good it just can't be true so you call it an "instinct" & make a quick exit. It goes back to the need for control (which isn't a bad thing) & that's what caps prefer .... if they can't control the outcome then it's not for them.click to expand
Posted by HouseCleaning
damn those capricorns. damn them. damn them all
Posted by GobshitePosted by bnr7013Posted by GobshitePosted by bnr7013
I also don't doubt that he was the one that ended things. I might get the evil eye on this but they DO stuff like this .... Sometimes I wonder if it's to see how far you'll go?
No, a lot of the time, our instincts know when a relationship's going nowhere. We like to remain true to ourselves, whenever we can. We're not as stubborn or deluded as some other signs.
Sagittarius and Gemini... not the most compatible star signs for a Capricorn. And Sagittarians do have a certain reputation that many Cappies can spot a mile off, no matter how sincere you try to come across.
I get what you are trying to say but sometimes it seems like self sabatoge - like when things are good it just can't be true so you call it an "instinct" & make a quick exit. It goes back to the need for control (which isn't a bad thing) & that's what caps prefer .... if they can't control the outcome then it's not for them.
You obviously don't get what I'm trying to say, when you then try to put words in my mouth and skew the original intention of my post...
Self-sabotage? That's the forte of a Gemini or Scorpio - not a Capricorn. But obviously, you're too proud and deluded to see the woods from the trees.
Everybody wants to have some control in their relationships, to a certain degree. Who doesn't want to be in control of their future, particularly one that's potentially influenced by a SO? So, right there, your argument is seriously flawed.
No, this all comes down to you not being happy because things didn't go your way. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Posted by GobshitePosted by ashley1734Posted by GobshitePosted by bnr7013Posted by GobshitePosted by bnr7013
I also don't doubt that he was the one that ended things. I might get the evil eye on this but they DO stuff like this .... Sometimes I wonder if it's to see how far you'll go?
No, a lot of the time, our instincts know when a relationship's going nowhere. We like to remain true to ourselves, whenever we can. We're not as stubborn or deluded as some other signs.
Sagittarius and Gemini... not the most compatible star signs for a Capricorn. And Sagittarians do have a certain reputation that many Cappies can spot a mile off, no matter how sincere you try to come across.
I get what you are trying to say but sometimes it seems like self sabatoge - like when things are good it just can't be true so you call it an "instinct" & make a quick exit. It goes back to the need for control (which isn't a bad thing) & that's what caps prefer .... if they can't control the outcome then it's not for them.
You obviously don't get what I'm trying to say, when you then try to put words in my mouth and skew the original intention of my post...
Self-sabotage? That's the forte of a Gemini or Scorpio - not a Capricorn. But obviously, you're too proud and deluded to see the woods from the trees.
Everybody wants to have some control in their relationships, to a certain degree. Who doesn't want to be in control of their future, particularly one that's potentially influenced by a SO? So, right there, your argument is seriously flawed.
No, this all comes down to you not being happy because things didn't go your way. Nothing more, nothing less.
That wasn't the OP (me) who posted about the self-sabotage by the way.
I tend to agree that he just wasn't feeling I was right for him. I accept it. Don't have to like it though haha.
See, there you go. You have to make everything about you, don't you?
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Posted by lnana04
Wasn't expecting that last sentence either....but typical smh. Cap males can make you really dislike them when they feel they can talk to you how they want.
Makes you want to pop them in the mouth a few times. Cant stand it.
I don't think you did anything wrong at all. Maybe he felt it was suspicious that you showed up where he was, and eventually talked to his friend. Maybe in his mind he thought it was a setup? Idk
Posted by bnr7013
Things ended >> you did nothing>> he did nothing >> he felt you didn't really care >> you "showed" you didn't really care >> he became bitter >> you miss him (or else you wouldn't be posting) >> he wishes you wouldn't have let things go so "easily"
One of y'all needs to put your mf'n guard down & a cap isn't known to be the first one at it. Good luck!
Posted by CapricornGuy12Posted by bnr7013
Things ended >> you did nothing>> he did nothing >> he felt you didn't really care >> you "showed" you didn't really care >> he became bitter >> you miss him (or else you wouldn't be posting) >> he wishes you wouldn't have let things go so "easily"
One of y'all needs to put your mf'n guard down & a cap isn't known to be the first one at it. Good luck!
This is probably the most accurate response of what happened
I think maybe he wanted to be friends with you because he may have been catching feelings but wanted to feel you out some more and at least that way, if things didn't work out (like he thought) you guys could still be friends in the end. Since you didn't allow that to happen right away, he probably assumed you were bullsh---ing about liking him, because if you really liked him, you would have made an attempt. And you didn't, so he stopped trying. He probably got defensive when he saw you because he's still hurt about you not trying.click to expand
Posted by HouseCleaning
so whats the update now
Posted by MissGemmiPosted by lnana04
Wasn't expecting that last sentence either....but typical smh. Cap males can make you really dislike them when they feel they can talk to you how they want.
Makes you want to pop them in the mouth a few times. Cant stand it.
I don't think you did anything wrong at all. Maybe he felt it was suspicious that you showed up where he was, and eventually talked to his friend. Maybe in his mind he thought it was a setup? Idk
Yes. I always feel drawn to cap men in the beginning, because of the stoic attitude they have and somehow they delude me in thinking there's more in there than they show. Then they make remarks that really don't fit in the whole context and make them look like complete a**w***s.
I REALLY REALLY REALLY don't understand the whole fuss about cap males, their attractiveness, seriousness and intelligence, while to me they are big elephants in a petit porcelain room, smashing everything around them. I don't think a Gemini female fits a Cap male. WAY too different. Gemini females like down to earth people, no diva behavior. I feel (of course not all and these are personal encounters) cap males are a bit too arrogant to my liking. They sell themselves with a high price, but these are artificial prices.
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Posted by HouseCleaning
yea if he doesn't want to be in your life. screw him
Posted by NostalgicCappyPosted by HouseCleaning
yea if he doesn't want to be in your life. screw him
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Posted by CapricornGuy12Posted by ashley1734I think I did a good job being loving and reaching out, he does not reciprocate so I gotta just let him be. If someone wants you in your life I think they will make that known.
I would almost say keep it going for one more week because he's still defensive and you're still chipping away at the China Wall of hurt. But you know, everyone has their own level of tolerance. I react the same way when I get cold vibes from someone.. just give up. It's definitely hard for me to continue attempts and be met with the cold shoulder.
Anyway, he's immature. You don't need him anyway. Find a more mature Cap or just move on to another zodiac sign lolclick to expand
Posted by ashley1734Posted by bnr7013
I'm not a cap let me just say that first. I've dated a few caps & have several cap friends - I'm a sag so they are still pretty confusing to me at times. Capipuffs are kinda my favorite though![]()
Your actions prove otherwise to him. If you missed him you would have done something to show that (in his eyes.) IMO it seems like he was reaching for a reaction when you two ended things. This happens when at least one of you can't be vulnerable...or won't be. I've had caps tell me they were seeking a reaction from me by the way.
Things ended >> you did nothing>> he did nothing >> he felt you didn't really care >> you "showed" you didn't really care >> he became bitter >> you miss him (or else you wouldn't be posting) >> he wishes you wouldn't have let things go so "easily"
One of y'all needs to put your mf'n guard down & a cap isn't known to be the first one at it. Good luck!
I like the way you explained this very simply.
It makes sense, BUT he is the one who ended things and suggested we just be friends. I made it very clear I had feelings for him beyond friends...I felt there wasn't much I could do beyond that since he said he didn't know that things would work between us and didn't want to waste his time (ouch, but I mean I had to respect it).
He comes off like a royal jerk, but I feel like there's some sensitivity in there somewhere. I never wronged him or anything, we've always been very honest with each other, so it's just been a bit unnerving to get this cold front.click to expand
Posted by Elle77Posted by ashley1734Posted by bnr7013
I'm not a cap let me just say that first. I've dated a few caps & have several cap friends - I'm a sag so they are still pretty confusing to me at times. Capipuffs are kinda my favorite though![]()
Your actions prove otherwise to him. If you missed him you would have done something to show that (in his eyes.) IMO it seems like he was reaching for a reaction when you two ended things. This happens when at least one of you can't be vulnerable...or won't be. I've had caps tell me they were seeking a reaction from me by the way.
Things ended >> you did nothing>> he did nothing >> he felt you didn't really care >> you "showed" you didn't really care >> he became bitter >> you miss him (or else you wouldn't be posting) >> he wishes you wouldn't have let things go so "easily"
One of y'all needs to put your mf'n guard down & a cap isn't known to be the first one at it. Good luck!
I like the way you explained this very simply.
It makes sense, BUT he is the one who ended things and suggested we just be friends. I made it very clear I had feelings for him beyond friends...I felt there wasn't much I could do beyond that since he said he didn't know that things would work between us and didn't want to waste his time (ouch, but I mean I had to respect it).
He comes off like a royal jerk, but I feel like there's some sensitivity in there somewhere. I never wronged him or anything, we've always been very honest with each other, so it's just been a bit unnerving to get this cold front.
This does appear to be very odd behavior considering everything. Sometimes I feel that Caps want you to fight and scream about your feelings and Gems aren't that way. We won't fight you if you don't want to be involved. We will be honest, which I felt you've done. If he can't be honest in why he responded so cold then that's on him. Something must have happened, either someone talked dirt about you that isn't true and he believed it or he feels you were never really into him so why do you care or miss him all of a sudden. Instead of him understanding it was hard for you and needed to think about whether to be friends he might have taken that as he's not worth even being friends with after the fact. My 2 cents.click to expand
Posted by Koiala
" Sometimes I feel that Caps want you to fight and scream about your feelings"
@Elle77, I think you're onto something there. I feel this from all 3 earth signs, btw. I think this is a dynamic that more fiery counterparts will naturally give them and that's an opposition they can understand. It allows them to play the stoic role they're comfortable with the most, but at the same time, in a way, the other person is also expressing those pent up feelings they're pretending not to be prey to themselves. That steam is let out of the relationship so to speak.
Air dominant people really just don't react that way, however. I mean, I'm air dominant (lots of Libra and Aqua) and probably the more emotional turmoil I feel and the less I'll show it. I'll instinctively 'lighten' a heavy situation such as saying a permanent goodbye by being pleasant or injecting some humor in there or something. Just my own way of dealing. But I've noticed Caps in particular can interpret this as 'Hah! She doesn't care one iota! She probably never cared!' I was completely taken aback once to have a Cap friend remark to me slightly bitterly in a parting situation that I seemed pretty happy about it all. From my POV I was just doing my best to not break down and going through the motions so as not to burden them, while they were probably thinking I'm an unfeeling hypocrite or something. Oh well. *illustrates point*
Posted by Koiala
@Ashley1734 I don't know if it's the Virgo moon in addition to the air placements, but I can really relate to how you seem to react. I know it's natural to most people to engage in, like, games of seduction and that lots of people might even enjoy all of that. But if I do have an inkling that a tug of let'- say-love is taking place, well... I couldn't bear to feel like I pressured a guy somehow with the strength of my own feelings. I'll totally just let go like you say.
I'll be the first to believe you did care for him. Respecting his space was part of showing him how much you cared, but maybe because he has a different scale by which he measures what equals to caring, it translated differently to him. Leaving the birthday card etc, I get how exposed that might have made you feel but you know what, that's never something you'll regret, you'll always know you went the distance, as far as you could while staying true to yourself. You can't help how he interprets things, but still I hope he comes around to interpreting them right because you seemed to be good together and it's sad to think what's probably a miscommunication mash-up somewhere decides of the fate of your relationship.
Posted by Aggrippina66789
Some people can't friends after break ups anyway ...i can't really.
Posted by Aggrippina66789Posted by ashley1734Posted by Koiala
@Ashley1734 I don't know if it's the Virgo moon in addition to the air placements, but I can really relate to how you seem to react. I know it's natural to most people to engage in, like, games of seduction and that lots of people might even enjoy all of that. But if I do have an inkling that a tug of let'- say-love is taking place, well... I couldn't bear to feel like I pressured a guy somehow with the strength of my own feelings. I'll totally just let go like you say.
I'll be the first to believe you did care for him. Respecting his space was part of showing him how much you cared, but maybe because he has a different scale by which he measures what equals to caring, it translated differently to him. Leaving the birthday card etc, I get how exposed that might have made you feel but you know what, that's never something you'll regret, you'll always know you went the distance, as far as you could while staying true to yourself. You can't help how he interprets things, but still I hope he comes around to interpreting them right because you seemed to be good together and it's sad to think what's probably a miscommunication mash-up somewhere decides of the fate of your relationship.
Thank you Koiala! I hope he will come around too, if not just in the friendship sense. Would still like to be his friend. And you are so right...I don't regret being vulnerable or open and loving to him at all. The world needs soft people so I don't mind being one of them.
He does need to learn he can't have relationships of any kind all his own way though. There are two in it.click to expand
Posted by GreenteaPosted by Aggrippina66789
Some people can't friends after break ups anyway ...i can't really.
I cant really either, there will be no hard feelings, and wish them all the luck in the world, but I cant have my past lingering around..click to expand
Posted by ashley1734Posted by GreenteaPosted by Aggrippina66789
Some people can't friends after break ups anyway ...i can't really.
I cant really either, there will be no hard feelings, and wish them all the luck in the world, but I cant have my past lingering around..
I normally don't bother with trying to be friends with exes either, but we were never an official couple so I don't really consider us "exes"...
Plus the way he presented it was "I think we have a good chance of a very long and strong friendship" it seemed so genuine to me!click to expand
Posted by Aggrippina66789Posted by ashley1734Posted by GreenteaPosted by Aggrippina66789
Some people can't friends after break ups anyway ...i can't really.
I cant really either, there will be no hard feelings, and wish them all the luck in the world, but I cant have my past lingering around..
I normally don't bother with trying to be friends with exes either, but we were never an official couple so I don't really consider us "exes"...
Plus the way he presented it was "I think we have a good chance of a very long and strong friendship" it seemed so genuine to me!
It could beit was but it sounds like he was such a douche to you when you guys met again. He sounds not worth it. I wouldn't get over that if i were you...
My cappie was like that to me even after fights though...so i know how they can be...stubborn....it's more raw to their emotions ...
It's a weird way to act with someone you want to be friends with!click to expand
Posted by GreenteaPosted by ashley1734Posted by GreenteaPosted by Aggrippina66789
Some people can't friends after break ups anyway ...i can't really.
I cant really either, there will be no hard feelings, and wish them all the luck in the world, but I cant have my past lingering around..
I normally don't bother with trying to be friends with exes either, but we were never an official couple so I don't really consider us "exes"...
Plus the way he presented it was "I think we have a good chance of a very long and strong friendship" it seemed so genuine to me!
Changed his mind perhaps, we do that quite a bit after much thought.click to expand
Posted by ashley1734Posted by GreenteaPosted by ashley1734Posted by GreenteaPosted by Aggrippina66789
Some people can't friends after break ups anyway ...i can't really.
I cant really either, there will be no hard feelings, and wish them all the luck in the world, but I cant have my past lingering around..
I normally don't bother with trying to be friends with exes either, but we were never an official couple so I don't really consider us "exes"...
Plus the way he presented it was "I think we have a good chance of a very long and strong friendship" it seemed so genuine to me!
Changed his mind perhaps, we do that quite a bit after much thought.
Really? Even without any contact or event that would have made a logical person change their mind?
I don't relate I guess. I change my mind only when the facts tell me it is not logical to remain in my current mindset/course of action.click to expand
Posted by SensitiveBlues
What an ahole! Did you cuss him out?
Posted by Koiala
Aggripina & Greentea are hitting the nail on the head.
I see things your way very easily and your actions make sense to me because I would react similarly, but I suspect they have the sounder perspective.
The majority of Caps IME remain very courteous/civilized even if for whatever reason they can't keep a person in their life, like Greentea was saying she does. It's one of my fav things about them that I know they genuinely wish people they've cared about well deep down even if a friendship or relationship fizzles out while some other signs will be totally sticking pins in your voodoo doll forever ever. If in a heated moment they crossed a line, they acknowledge it in some way and express they're sorry about it. They question themselves a good deal rather than just blindly throw all of the blame on the other party. A lot of those Caps I'm referring to had some harsh things happen to them in life. Rather than shut them up, it seems to make them more open and understanding. I'm talking about 80 year old Cappies that will take criticism and ponder whether it might be true and decide it is so they then change and make amends.
Of course like with every sign, that's not all of them. Maybe your Cap is immature now and will be a catch at 80, mind you. But you sound super nice and like you deserve to be treated way better and there are lots of Caps your age who are born gentlemen.
Posted by Aggrippina66789Posted by ashley1734Posted by SensitiveBlues
What an ahole! Did you cuss him out?
No. I just wanted to know what happened that made him so cruel so I tried to be calm and chip away at him. No luck. The dumbest part of all of this is that I actually miss the a-hole
He was this way all the time ....you just didn't realize it.click to expand
Posted by underwaterthing
^ I agree. I think he's a) immature b) insecure. He was offended that you wouldn't do the breakup on his terms i.e. be friends i.e. allow him to keep you on the side as an option. You did the right thing, so just know that. Don't be too baffled by his silly actions. They barely deserve recognition. Feel sorry for him. Caps are really good at hiding their dark side. They know it's hard to swallow. They even hide it from themselves. I have been on both sides with two Cap men. Both very loving, then alarmingly hateful. It isn't healthy regardless of sign. Nor is it acceptable behavior. I've read that Capricorn men take a long time to become truly ready and marry later in life. Who knows. You know your boundaries, so that's most important. He was rude, if you bump into him again you don't owe him a hello. Just know while you are moving forward, he is still stuck.
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