First Time Post-Male Goat-To women of ALL signs

This topic was created in the Capricorn forum by ManGOAT24 on Friday, March 17, 2006 and has 26 replies.
I came across this website by coincidence, and believe I can contribute to the topics that have been posted in the past about male Caps. I feel my experiences and growth as a Cap can greatly help those women who are currently dating a Cap, or thinking about it. I am a student athlete (football) who is going to enter law school in about a year, and currently live in San Diego. I grew up in the OC, California, and have lived quite an adventurous life so far. In the past, I have dated just about every sign out there, except for a Gemini. I have no bad feelings about Gems, its just that I have yet to come across one who has caught my attention or interested me. Its seemes to me many women are confusing lack of interest, or intimacy for low confidence. Lets get one thing straight, other than a male Leo, there is absolutely no other sign out there with as much confidence as a Capricorn male. Its no coincidence that many caps have had positions of power or prestige. We simply believe in ourselves with an iron will, regardless if we succeed or not, which is probably why we do succeed. I believe young caps can sometimes be more concieted than confident, but this changes over time, and we start to mature at a rapid rate. As far as relationships, we understand it takes time to really know someone, and we are simply evaluating our potential partners. If you take it as low confidence, or fear of commitment, so be it. We don't care what you think, UNTIL we have actually chosen you as the ONE. Once we have chosen you, we do absolutely everything in our power to learn about you in every way:spiritualy, emotionally, and above all, physically. Sometimes this requires great pains on our part, but we still go through with them. Yes, we are always horny, which I believe is the reason some signs are harder to stay in relationships with. I found signs like Libra's, Aquarius's, and Cancer's aren't nearly as physical as i wanted them to be, which was reason for myself ending the relationships with them. It is very true that signs such as Scorpio's, Taurus's, Arie's, Sag's, other Cap's and Virgos are far more into sex than those previously mentioned, and hence, made it easier to be in a relationships with myself. We work hard for our women, and only demand respect and an "I love you" every once in a while. For those of you who believe a Cap is not strong enough for you, you must either have not attracted your Cap, or disrespected him, perhaps saying something that made him turn away from you with distgust. We are too strong perhaps, but not lacking it at all. I noticed with Scorpios, I found them to be cold and vengeful with me too many times for reasons I could not understand. I found the reason was because I was simply not giving the Scorpios the attention they were so used to having from their previous mates. They were confused by it, and took our uninterest as being "weak" or cold ourselves when in fact we were to strong and independent to put up with the Scorpios demands. This I found, made them desire us more, while at the same time driving them crazy in the inside. The sex was always great because of this. I strongly believe Caps attract weaker mates, but stick with the ones as independent and strong willed as themselves. In fact, I find most caps, male or female, tend to lead and attract people in general. We are easy to please, but admit we can be moody and very, very unpredictable. We can be very quiet at one minute, and then the life of the party the next. My advice is to simply stay quiet and withdrawn until a Cap chooses to speak to you. He WILL contact you when he is ready. When we are being loud in our good moods, participate in the moment with us. All you females need to remember is we are loyal if we LOVE you. If we are screwing around, we have yet to make up our minds about whether we love you or not and are still deciding. We fool around strictly for physical pleasure, most likely because we are not getting the satisfaction from our
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Right now I am in a relationship with a Cap. It works well because I am the more spontaneous, communicative one, so we do not get bored of ourselves at all as most people say happens between caps. Communication is great, and money is never an issue since we both make decent money.
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Damn that is all true male goat 24, but still i m 21 and and i m going thru a very hard and rough time from the past 5 years.. i mean mentally, emotionally.. Do u think
i will be able relax when i will grow older?
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I feel that around the ages of 22-25, male goats greatly increase in their happiness and maturity simply because they start realizing the potential they have, and the power that they have over others. Happiness definitley increases as we get older. The younger years are tough...I feel due to our pride and ego not to let anything get to us. We bottle it up. Then it comes out slowly through experiences. Yes cappyguy, it gets much easier to relax as you get older.
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Wow~ that is some good shyt, ManGoat. Thank you. It stopped me from doing something dramatic tonight and going over there and showing up unannounced (bc. I can't get him to call or email back). With that advice, I will just keep moving on and if he contacts me later, well, I'll just see where I'm at then.
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Capgirl, send him a text that saying that you care for him, and that when he's ready to talk, you'll be there for him. This will greatly impress him.
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I totally agree with all these posts....right on....ahmmm, except the physical with a cancer, maybe I'm a different kind a cancer, but I can't get enough of him...and he says I'm exciting to be with....(blushing...but also grinning like I just won the jackpot!!!!smile )
Yummy....
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ManGoat~ I kind of feel like the texts have been overused (by me) in the past, and that he'll not take me serious. I told him I was in love with him... in a text msg. He called a few days later and we just chatted and not about that or anything serious. A couple weeks later, he tells me 'I love you" on the phone when he's drunk; I didn't take it serious and told him to call me when he's sober.
I tried to get him to tell me what he's looking for with me by emailing him and openly saying that I want a relationship w/ him, and what is he looking for. Well, then he goes MIA for 3 months- and then gets back in touch out of the blue by IM'ing. When I asked him why he ignored me for all those weeks, he blames it on being busy with school and work. This is just a short snippet of recent events- We have been playing cat-and-mouse for a year and a half, and he had first pursued me and shown obvious interest in me when we met.
I mean, if a male Cap. is like you say-- would he have just told me he didn't want anything serious if he didn't? Why go MIA for that long and then feel the need to get back in touch? I had walked away and was leaving him alone. Thanks for any input.
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Thats some valuable insight Mangoat..but obviously doesn't apply to all cappy men..as personalities vary..you've probably just described yourself there..but still its great to get some insight finally from a cap guy..I have known my cappy friend for 6 months now..He too is a lawyer..we get on brilliantly as friends..don't know if he wants anything further..2 other women have asked him out..but he hasn't said yes..although he does constantly tell me that he wants to get married soon..so I don't understand if these women have asked him out and he clearly thinks they are attractive he hasn't asked them out..he was actually quite down about it last week...according to him, I get more attention from him on a daily basis then any of his other female friends..he has told me that himself..usually he's pretty blunt and straightforward with his answers so I thought ok, whatever you say..have caught him exaggerating at times..but have let it pass..we have talked every day for the last 6 months..apart from the week we broke up over a silly argument..but I haven't realy called him much, he's always called me, then it stopped and now he complains that I never call him and actualy asks me to call him..
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MissMorals- I think you're in a good position there with the way things are right now. I have found that it may be easier to develop things with them, when there's less pressure and no talk of "dating" and "relationship". If they feel comfortable and at ease with you, the communication is better and more frequent. It's when it gets to be high pressure that they disappear and go MIA, is what I'm finding. I still think there's insecurity there, and it just depends on the guy, and not on whether he's a Cap. or not. Also, it depends on the relationship itself and whether he thinks you've rejected him, aren't interested as more than friends, etc.
ManGoat~~ I text him Sat. evening, "I want to see you. Please call me." and he IM'd me today. So, thanks for the advice.
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My ex-cap was pretty ballsy - he asked me out while I was talking to another man - of course I was impressed. He also thought he was going to be one of the "captains of industry" in his field - I agreed and told him it would take three months, he replied that it would take six. It was a joke but I still loved it - and like sb's experience he was also the first guy that didn't need subtitles to understand what I was saying. The disappearing thing though I found weird, insisting that he wants to continue to see each other then poof. I don't think cap women do that, I think we rather like certainty and if it's over, prefer finality. As for cap men being horny all the time, aren't all men horny all the time? That's why we love them!
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"I have found that it may be easier to develop things with them, when there's less pressure and no talk of "dating" and "relationship". If they feel comfortable and at ease with you, the communication is better and more frequent"
Capgirl your spot on..things are much easier now that the tension is out of the way..I prefer him as a friend cos he is a loyal one..and yes he's opening up much more..He is always interested in knowing who I am going on a date with though..I steer the conversation away from dates and he brings it back again..
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MissMorals- I think you should definitely proceed as if he's interested in you still, and watch yourself and the situation, with that in mind, which you seem to already be doing. He's probably not dealing with those 2 girls who asked him out, in part bc. he can't deal with the formal, high pressure "date" situation, and prefers the kind of thing he has going with you.
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Thanks Capgirl..I will keep you posted..but either way, he's a great mate..I don't really want to discuss my dates with him though cos I know he's not going on any..so its unfair of me to rub it in his face..he's there in the background and if/when he asks me out then if I am not dating anyone at the time I will consider it..no point worrying about it now..Its all good in the hood!..lol
peace out
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Malegoat-
When you say that Caps get better with age I really like to know when just out of curiosity, The Cappy I used to date or was seeing for 1 1/2 and stop talking to 3 months ago, is 46 and I am 44 know if you say they get better with age I really like to know when that comes into play.
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I agree with some points but not all. I truely beileve that you have to look at the person as an individual. For instance, if you read practically everything they have on the web about Cap's you'll probably never come across a reading that would descibe them as a needy looser.........but I've actually met one! I think for the most part that Caps DO have intimacy issues and their self esteem is NOT that high. I also dont think they are as complicated as most women make them out to be. I think its just a matter of not being selfish when it comes to them, stepping outside of yourself and following your intuition. I do agree with the fact that they are very SLOW.....which is fine for me becuase I have 50 million other things going on and to accomplish....plus we work together so seeing him everyday is enough smile I sometimes have to wonder why we put Caps in a different catagory...what makes them so different from other guys. Why is it when they pull away we never just say to ourselves "Maybe he just doesnt want me?"
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I personally don't agree with all of it either especially about "getting better with age". I can almost bet that the one that I was dating is probably totally to threw with me because I am not chasing after him, or he could careless, either way I choosed to move on and if he wants to talk to me then he will have to make the first move because I will not ever call him again nor will I express my feelings to him until he express his feelings to me. I said how I felt he knows how I felt there is not much more I am going to do. and if I don't ever see or speak to him then it was never meant to be. It is that simple. I can love from afar.
I read somewhere
"You ask once, If you ask twice it's begging"
And I don't beg.
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I totally agree with you Scorpion Lady. Where is the line with these guys? If you state your case and tell them how you feel then why do we always feel the need to go back and remind them ESPECIALLY if they do not reciprocate. Does it ever occur to us that maybe if we keep making ourselves available when we are NOT getting what we NEED or WANT from them it just opens the door for game playing? And IF they play games to test our committment when does it end? Why are Caps the only exception to the golden rule: If a man wants you, wont he let you know?
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febpisces27
Right,
Well I know the game and I refuse to play it. I refuse allow another man to take me through emotional and mental changes. I did that when I was younger I am much older and wiser and some things are not worth it even if you love them.
Sometimes you have to put love in your back pocket and move on.
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SL~ I know exactly what you're saying. It is a struggle and battle for me, between screw this, I'm not chasing this guy, bc. he's probably playing me and laughing; and then thinking I am confident enough to pursue him and be the secure party in the "relationship" and just take the risk. Just yesterday, I was basically throwing myself at him, as far as wanting to come over there, and it was like dealing with an imbecile, with how indirect and non-commital he was being. It's like are you really that insecure NOT to see and acknowledge that I am extending an open invitation here?? I commend you for holding to your principles and not going after him.
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CG-
Thank you, but don't get me wrong I still do love him but because of my morals and confidence not to mention, stubborness and Pride, is what's making me do what I do. I have to stand for something or I will fall for anything.
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u ROCK Scorpionlady!..I love that saying..Never beg..its wrong to beg..its disgusting and demoralising..
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Of course there are differences between Cap males, just as there are differences within all signs. I was only describing myself, but I have many cap friends (both female and male) and the characteristics I described were simply ones I noticed in them as well. Something intersting I noticed about my Cap friends, the ones who grew up in broken homes or bad families were the ones to display more of this lower confidence that some women have posted comments about. The friends that came from good up-bringings,(myself included), had the very high (maybe too high) confidence that I seem to have.We all have this willpower and pride in ourselves. To you women out there, it may be worth asking your Cap about their childhoods. It can possibly help you to understand where their confidence level is at, and hence, their attitudes in life overall. I realize this can be seen as a consequence for all people, not just Caps, but I believe it effects Caps even stronger. Maybe because of the fact that even when we are young, we feel as if we must be the ones to fix problems in our own way. Its just that we can't fix family problems usually. Other than that, I still believe a Cap is able to have a strong, healthy relationship with any sign in the zodiac.
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i had a lot of difficulty with my mom. listen to the song "Because Of You" by Kelly Clarkson (not video) and it about sums it up. i would like to think that i've coped with my situation well, since i've never broken down nor thought that i was hopeless becuz of it, but i guess that i can't really know for sure. i stayed strong for my little sister, especially, cuz i didn't want her to be affected by it. my dad and i are fine, but it doesn't change what happened with my parents and the family feud that took place. there were causes for everything, but they were mostly derived from my mom's problems and the way that she inflicted them upon those that she cared about most. my dad didn't deal with it in the best way that he possibly could, so i think that both parties were to blame. however, it was becuz of my mom's sickness and hatred towards my dad and his family, that she decided to take her anger out on all of us, specifically me. i forgave her, though, and all i can say is that i THINK that i've gotten stronger from my experiences, and i really hope that that's the case. interesting thread, though, by the way.
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yup yup yup man goat is right... caps born in bad families have lower self esteeem...
actually mostly caps do have family problems.. and they are born in such circumstances that they automatically turn into that way.
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Totally agree with you Cap Guy, the one I know has family issues big time. We all do to some degree, but I think with them they tend to carry it around and not let it go.
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