is it hard to woo the capps males?

This topic was created in the Capricorn forum by crazy_fish on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 and has 13 replies.
i am in love with my cap frnd and hav known him for 4 yrs..i thought he too liked me by his gestures and his nice attitude towards me,he used to flirt with me but not with every other girl in my clas.(we are both in last yr of colege).so i proposed him on v'day..and was refused!!..he told me very politely that he wasnt prepared for a serious relationship..so it wd b better for us to jus remain good frnds !!..ok that was over..and i thought we wud never again raise this topic..coz he promised to keep all this very hush hush!!
fine..but 2 days later he jus said sumthng to arouse my interst in him,and amy jealousy..he hinted about a girl ( i cant tolerate her coz shwe alwz uses my cap frnd for assignments..but she is least bothered about him..and my capp too knows about it too well!!)..and then he grinned at me..to test my nerves..likewise i cudnt help but falling in his trap..and told him i damn her..and that wasnt over..he started giving me so much attention,caring for me..and everytime reminding me of my special feelings for him!!why????
Afetr some weeks,i again told him how i felt for him..and asked him to explain clearly why he wasnt ready for commitment..and he gave me a number of excuses(he wasnt ready for any girl..,his family is conservative..,he is scard of being hurt..blah blah!!)...i know it was a big blunder i made..and i was pretty persistent(i am a pisces)..
anywaz even that didnt stop me frm talking to him or calling him up..coz he was alwaz nice to me and seemed to respond to my demands...it increased my dependancy on him..finally i asked him out on a date in our colege library..and believe me it was suchh a boring date..i was nervous..and yet alwaz had to be the 1st one to start a topic..although i am a girl..and he was kinda nervous too..but neither cud share a hearty laugh as we used to when we wre jus frnds!!..but on that very day after our 1st date,he called me up and told me that thngs werent going in the right direction,coz he had no such feelings for me,so we shud stay aloof or i wud be the one to end up suffring..(that was a nice piece of advice he gave..a nice guy..others cud hav simply used me without my knowledge!)..i told him that i wud not bother him after college buut while in colege it is realy difficult for me to get over him..and he said he understood me and promised to give me suport whenever i need it..indeed he gives me..and since then i hav been either emailing him or calling him up to talk to him..
in my email i told him him lots of nice stuffs..and he really got flattered and sent a touchy reply..wudnt believe a capp asking for forgiveness!!
he actually apologised for breaking my heart but didnt say he wud mend it..but said we wud b in touch forever!!.Now what is that suposed to mean??
anywaz what i hav noticed now is he has started beliving me and believing in whatever i say to him..isnt it strange??
he has developed a notion that i wud share every thng with him..although he never asks for any sort of help frm me..but he has siad something of this sort regarding me to our common frnd..is it a positive sign about his developing trust and weakness for me?
PLEASE HELPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!
Hi Crazyfish!
I know Pisces can be very intuitive and empathic. But its strange how in personal relationships ya'll don't read your partners feelings well. Why is that?
Anyways, as hard as it may seem, you should try to move on. He gave you his reasons for not wanting a committment. I give him lots of credit for telling you his honest feelings without trying to use you. It sounds like he wants to keep you around because you are a great caring person. We love loyal, caring friends and nowadays that is hard to find. He probably justs wants to have a platonic friendship with you. If thats too hard for you to deal with (because of your feelings for him) then try to date others and leave him alone. When you're able to detach your feelings or get over them, then you can try resuming the friendship. Since he was honest with you, I would be honest with him and tell him that I'm trying to move on and being in constant contact with him is too hard so not to take it personally if I don't call. He'll understand and know that you want to be his friend but are having a difficult time.
If he's starting to trust you and believe you then that's a very good thing. We will test you to see if you are really into us, find out how long you'd stick around for us and to see if you're loyal. He'll either keep you as his friend (and nothing more) or eventually develop feelings for you (especially if you're his type). Do you know if you're his type? IF you're his type he may keep you as his friend until he's ready for a relationship, then turn your friendship into something more. But this could take years or never happen at all. It takes patience & strength to win us, but once we tell you that we just want friendship, if you keep persisting for more it could turn us off.
A girlfriend is probably the last thing on his mind right now. Since graduation is so near, maybe he just wants to concentrate on doing well and finding a good job.
It can take us Caps a very long time to committ when we're not ready for a relationship or scared to get hurt.
Do you know his birth chart details (moon, venus, mars, rising)? If you give me his birthdate (and if you know his birth time and city of birth that'll help), I can post his birth chart (its very long though so if you won't have the patience to read it, let me know).
thank u folks for ur advice..but now things hav suddenly changed..i am confused..he has suddenly started behaving as if to ignore me..well last week i had an argument with him in our computer lab,regarding computer games(he's a game frak!!)..so i stopped talking to him and ignoring him.then he too did the same with me..i thought may be he wud apologise to me or speak on his own ..but no..he jus satrted ignoring me and talking to other girls in front of me(even those girls whom he thninks to be too blunt to converse)..ok that was really to much to bear..so i finaly shed my ego and spoke the 1st sentence with him..and yet he continued talking to other girls..and avoided looking into my eyes!!WHY???
ok his date of birth is :28 Dec,1984..dont know his time of birth..plzz i want to more about his future and character..i feel so nice and calm with him..cant live without him..i hav never come across such an understanding guy..
ok..so it was all bcoming unbearable for me..ok he was a bit bsy with organising colege fest..cud it be that he is realy bsy so doesnt hav time for me?..so i called him up yesterday and told him that i need to talk to him and he agreed for that..and i really gave him a scolding but he didnt rebuke me back..
Hi
Here's a link to his birth chart: http://astro.cafeastrology.com/cgi-bin/astro/natal?member=&recalc=&name=&sex=&d1day=28&d1month=12&d1year=1984&d1hour=12&d1min=0&nohouses=true&citylist=Los+Angeles% 2C+CA+% 286% 29% 2C+USA&lang=en
From just looking at his chart, he seems to be very sensitive and has alot of Pisces in him. He has a Moon in Pisces, so I can see why you, as a Pisces, is so attracted to him. Although he's sensitive, he has a hard time expressing his feelings for fear of disappointment, heartbreak, and loss of control. He has his Venus in Aquarius which means he prefers his relationships to start out as friendships with lots of independence & freedom.
Here's a lil info on him from a different website (www.astrology3d.com):
Moon Sesquiquadrate Pluto
You have intense desires and feelings and your personal relationships are deeply emotional, passionate, and often stormy and painful as well. There are powerful magnetic ties between yourself and those you care about, and you could become emotionally obsessed by another person. Your feelings can become so urgent and compelling that you do things that are not rational. You undergo periodic emotional upheavals and purging, when you must break all ties, release the past and begin anew.
Moon Square Uranus
You crave excitement, change, and discovery, and cannot tolerate a routine or life style that offers little in the way of surprise or challenge. Excitable, spontaneous, and enthusiastic about anything new, you may be perceived by others as being too impulsive, especially in personal relationships. It is not easy for you to make or keep commitments, since you don't know how you will be feeling from one day to the next. Emotional freedom is very important to you. Your domestic life can be very unstable but you like it that way.
Sun Semisquare Venus
You are loving and well-loved by others, and have a strong need for kindness, friendship, and affection. Your artistic and creative powers are also well developed and you do everything in a harmonious, gracious, pleasing manner. Aesthetics are very important to you. Your personal appearance and attractiveness are also very important to you
Sun Semisquare Saturn
Feelings of personal inadequacy, inhibitions, and self-doubt often plague you. You have a cautious, careful, realistic attitude toward life and are highly responsible and disciplined with regard to your obligations and duties. You tend to work and struggle more than you need to, and to take yourself too seriously.
Sun Conjunct Neptune
Sensitive and imaginative, you are attracted to artistic and creative pursuits and to mysticism. You are impressionable and receptive, and you often have experiences that are unusual and unexplainable by the rational mind. You have an abundance of dreams, visions, and longings, but do not always have the concentrated will and stamina to make them concrete. Gentle, idealistic, and peace-loving, you often seek to avoid the hard realities of life. You have an etheric quality about you.
Sun Sextile Pluto
You undergo deep, transformative changes in your life with relative ease and a minimum of conscious resistance. Because you don't avoid the depths, you have access to a lot of personal power and strength. Without realizing it or seeking it, you're apt to have quite a potent effect on the people you come into contact with, even superficially. Others sense that you're a force to be reckoned with.
Moon in Pisces
Tenderhearted and sympathetic to an unusual degree, you have an understanding of other people's feelings and needs which borders on being telepathic. You are extremely compassionate and cannot bear to see any fellow creature - be it human or animal suffer. Because of your kindness and nonjudgmental attitude, people in pain or confusion are drawn to you for help, which you readily give. Sometimes your softheartedness is taken advantage of.
You are a gentle, poetic soul and have a great love and affinity for music. Because many of your feelings are nebulous and vague and you cannot easily verbalize how you experience life, music seems a natural language for you. You are also tremendously romantic and are often "in love with love".
Venus square Saturn
The square from Venus to Saturn indicates that you have difficulty relating to others. As a result, you may feel left out of the mainstream of social relationships. You are basically unwilling to accept the responsibility that is established when two individuals meet in a more than casual way. You tend to be on the defensive, as if you feared that the other person would make impossible demands of you. Perhaps in your early life you felt rejected by someone you really cared for, even a parent. As you grew, you sheltered yourself more and more from outside communication, always afraid of rejection. This conditioning may have produced the feeling you have that you are not destined for happiness in your relationships. If you accept others for themselves, realizing that everyone has to make concessions and adjustments to others, then happiness can surely be yours. Remember that even people who seem happy have difficult moments in relating to others; your predicament is not at all unique.
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Regarding that arguement you had, his flirting with other women in front of you is really immature & disrespectful of your feelings. That's game playing, is that what you really want? Besides he doesn't want a relationship, maybe its time for you to move on.
Here's your relationship compatability (from grupovenus.com):
Guy's Sun in Capricorn and Crazy's Sun in Pisces
You are opposites in many respects: Guy is practical and realistic, deals effectively with the demands and responsibilities of the work place, and has a serious, sometimes cynical attitude toward life. Crazy on the other hand, is a sensitive, imaginative dreamer at heart, far more emotional and empathic than Guy is. Crazy intuitively knows that there is much more to life than what can be measured in material, concrete terms. Guy is essentially a 'doubting Thomas' who requires proof. Where Crazy tends to be gullible, Guy tends to be skeptical. Also, Guy thrives on order and organization, while Crazy is frequently disorganized or more comfortable in an atmosphere of clutter and 'creative chaos'. Both of you have a certain reserve, depth, and tendency to introspection and you may have much to offer one another if you are willing to appreciate the differences between you.
Guy's Moon in Pisces and Crazy's Moon in Virgo
You are opposites in many ways, yet your differences can be complementary and you can certainly learn a lot from one another. Crazy is factual, organized and efficient in dealing with material affairs, with an eye for details. Guy is more imaginative and dreamy, and can be disorganized or foggy when it comes to practical matters. With Crazy, intellect often rules emotions, but with Guy feelings dominate. Guy is sentimental and compassionate and may give unwisely or indiscriminately to people in need, with no sense of what is actually appropriate: Crazy also has a helpful, nurturing side but is more dispassionate, and definitely knows when to stop. Also, Crazy is very much a perfectionist, critical and often has impossibly strict or high standards for self or others to live up to. Guy is the opposite: tolerant, accepting, non-judgmental, loose, often undisciplined. Crazy is drawn to this quality of unconditional, uncritical acceptance in Guy, and Guy can benefit from Crazy's sense of order, clarity and simplicity. Both of you are timid and even somewhat passive at times, with much sensitivity. Both are suited to work in the helping professions or along artistic lines (with Crazy emphasizing technical ability and craftsmanship, Guy emphasizing inspiration and imagination).
(Compatibility continued)
Guy's Mercury conjunct Crazy's Uranus
You inspire each other to develop original, creative ideas. Crazy, especially, awakens, enlivens, or radically changes Guy's ideas and perspective. There is a strong impulsive quality too, and together you tend to make decisions impulsively. This is fun and exciting when the decisions are relatively harmless (for example, suddenly deciding to go to the beach), but care is needed before making more important decisions (for example, suddenly deciding to get married).
Guy's Mercury square Crazy's Sun
The two of you do not always see eye-to-eye on issues, and it is very easy for Guy to become critical of Crazy. Compounding the problem is Crazy's tendency to be very sensitive to criticism from Guy and consequently react defensively to this criticism. This need not be a serious problem however; a little tolerance for each other's right to disagree and respect for individual differences is all it takes to make personal differences stimulating rather than annoying.
Guy's Venus sextile Crazy's Venus
Your attitudes and approach to love, romance, and relationships in general are quite compatible. You understand one another very well. It is easy for you to do those things that give your partner happiness and pleasure. Mutual affection and appreciation is very strong between the two of you.
Guy's Venus sextile Crazy's Mars
There is a strong romantic attraction between you and you instinctively know how to please and make one another happy sexually. Both tenderness and passion are present between you, so this relationship can be immensely fulfilling to both of you!
Guy's Mars sextile Crazy's Neptune
You find it easy to extend yourselves and make sacrifices for each other. It is easy for you to have an abundance of good will and kind feelings for each other, and you assist each other in achieving your goals. Your religious and spiritual aspirations become more refined through this relationship, and it is easy for both of you to keep your loftier goals and spiritual ideals strong, with the support that you receive from each other.
Guy's Mars trine Crazy's Pluto
As your relationship grows over time, you begin to work together very closely on shared goals and objectives. You develop a joint sense of purpose and you join together on projects that are rich in purpose and meaning. The intimate blending of your creative efforts and career goals makes the two of you that much closer and the bonding between you is very strong. Physical and sexual attraction is also strong, and chances are high that if you marry, this will be a lasting, strong union.
Guy's Jupiter square Crazy's Venus
You enjoy laughing, having fun, socializing, and going out together. You are great pals, but the relationship may not be serious enough to warrant a lasting commitment to each other. Consequently you both may decide to not marry even though you may love each other very much. If you do marry, you will allow each other a great deal of freedom, but you are likely to disagree on how to handle finances, budgeting, and investments.
Guy's Uranus square Crazy's Sun
Your relationship is exciting, unpredictable, and stimulating. However, it tends to be explosive too, and there is the strong possibility that you will come together suddenly and unexpectedly, and will break up just as suddenly. If either of you is looking for a very stable, quiet, traditional, uneventful marriage with security, commitment, dependability, and predictability, then this is not the relationship for you! Together you will explore new possibilities and interests and break away from traditional, long-held beliefs and assumptions. Your sexual life, like other aspects of your lives, is exciting but not predictable and likely to vary from ecstatic to unsatisfying. You must be willing to be flexible and adaptable in all areas of life. Be wary, also, of letting your love for freedom and independence become a euphemism for being neglectful and inconsiderate of each other.
Guy's Uranus square Crazy's Moon
Although there is a great deal of fascination, curiosity, and attraction between you, there is also a lack of stability and peace. You react to each other very impulsively. Your feelings for each other blow hot and cold. It may seem like you are either making love or arguing with each other, going from one extreme to another. This relationship could easily turn into a love/hate relationship, where you simultaneously feel irresistibly drawn to each other, but you also irritate each other and make each other feel very uncomfortable. To make this relationship work, you both must be very flexible, tolerant of shortcomings in each other, adaptable to the constant changes and upsets, and enjoy excitement, novelty, and surprises. In this relationship there is never a dull moment!
Guy's Neptune square Crazy's Mercury
You inspire each other's imagination and you may find yourselves gravitating towards discussions of fantasy, poetry, art, theater, and religion. However, the tendency to lose a clear sense of proportion and become clouded by fantasies is very strong! You may also be inclined to conceal something or deceive each other. Little white lies can quickly foster a morass of confusion. Misunderstandings between you arise easily so try to be clear and precise in all important, practical communications.
thanx soo much capAngel..u r really an angel..wonder how a capricorn can be so patient in hearing about others tantrums...but definitely my guy does attend to my tantrumssmile

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