Knights of justice, are ya?

This topic was created in the Capricorn forum by Aries04 on Wednesday, May 21, 2014 and has 19 replies.
Following scenario:
You and your significant other hang out with your friends. Something comes up and she says or does something that you don't agree with. All your friends start going against your significant other. Do you take the side of what you think is fair and correct or do you rather protect and defend your loved one? Please elaborate..
I'd prefer not to get into it. I'd leave it purely up to her. If she looked to me in the conversation I'd simply say "Don't drag me into this".
i would protect and defend my loved one.. since she is a loved one.. she is a level above the friend level and plus the fact that she would be left alone against everyone else and i dont like seeing someone alone getting bullied..... depending on what she did... i will scold her later
Posted by CluelessCancer
Posted by AL4813
i would protect and defend my loved one.. since she is a loved one.. she is a level above the friend level and plus the fact that she would be left alone against everyone else and i dont like seeing someone alone getting bullied..... depending on what she did... i will scold her later


that's hot, how do you plan on scolding her? swatting her buttocks?
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somebyelling.... then after... butter her up and some make up sex
Posted by noname
i'd expect my scorp to take my side, without a doubt. one time i woke up in the morning upset telling scorp his best buddy kicked me in my dream and scorp said he will punch his face lol. if it's the other way around, i'd tell everyone to fuck off.
it wouldn't happen though because scorp is a smooth talker lol



i would def expect this from a scorp and a scorp/cap relationship. always on each other's side.
to the op??_ i would take my partner's side. talk to them in private later about how i felt and why.
and tbh??_ it's mostly because of my relationships with scorpios that i now see the value in these actions. there's no telling now if i would have grown into the same sentiments.
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Posted by noname
i'd expect my scorp to take my side, without a doubt. one time i woke up in the morning upset telling scorp his best buddy kicked me in my dream and scorp said he will punch his face lol. if it's the other way around, i'd tell everyone to fuck off.
it wouldn't happen though because scorp is a smooth talker lol



i would def expect this from a scorp and a scorp/cap relationship. always on each other's side.
to the op??_ i would take my partner's side. talk to them in private later about how i felt and why.
and tbh??_ it's mostly because of my relationships with scorpios that i now see the value in these actions. there's no telling now if i would have grown into the same sentiments.
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How did you learn the value in that specifically? What did they do/what has happened to teach you?
I just find my Cap taking sides sometimes and usually he takes the side of what he perceives as being fair. So when I act out (sometimes for a good reason, sometimes irrationally) he seldom has my back I feel like.. To me, even if I know he's not right, in front of a public or friends I would always hold him down and talk about it later. But he has no problem telling me that I messed up and kind of "punish" me for it even in front of his friends, which is super odd and hurtful to me as I hate carrying out problems in public. But I guess I start it in the first place myself..
Depends on the subject and who I agree with. If I agree with the SO, I'd take their side. If I agree with the friends, I'd take theirs. It isn't going to be a case of loyalty, because I'd be loyal to all of them. I'd have to go with my personal thoughts and feelings on the subject at hand.
Mostly, I'd try to smooth it over and offer each the other's viewpoint to see if I could get them to come to a compromise.
Probably not the answer my SO would want to hear, but that's just the way I am. I'm my own person with my own thoughts and ideas.
Posted by Aries04
I just find my Cap taking sides sometimes and usually he takes the side of what he perceives as being fair. So when I act out (sometimes for a good reason, sometimes irrationally) he seldom has my back I feel like.. To me, even if I know he's not right, in front of a public or friends I would always hold him down and talk about it later. But he has no problem telling me that I messed up and kind of "punish" me for it even in front of his friends, which is super odd and hurtful to me as I hate carrying out problems in public. But I guess I start it in the first place myself..


If you start it, then you should take care of it. You shouldn't need a man to come to your aid just because someone disagrees with you. Caps like independent people and I'm sure you can hold your own. You're an Aries afterall. smile
Keep in mind that caps don't like public confrontations. Debates for fun are awesome and we expect someone to hold their own and defend their opinions (I'm proud to be with someone who can do that), but if it's a real confrontation, it makes me uncomfortable. Also, caps also expect people to "suck it up" and make nice sometimes because public image is very important.
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Posted by noname
i'd expect my scorp to take my side, without a doubt. one time i woke up in the morning upset telling scorp his best buddy kicked me in my dream and scorp said he will punch his face lol. if it's the other way around, i'd tell everyone to fuck off.
it wouldn't happen though because scorp is a smooth talker lol



i would def expect this from a scorp and a scorp/cap relationship. always on each other's side.
to the op??_ i would take my partner's side. talk to them in private later about how i felt and why.
and tbh??_ it's mostly because of my relationships with scorpios that i now see the value in these actions. there's no telling now if i would have grown into the same sentiments.



How did you learn the value in that specifically? What did they do/what has happened to teach you?
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it's about trusting your partner, and knowing you'll both have one another's back. and it wasn't really any one case that taught me in those past relationships, it's more his manner and what he seemed to want from me on a few occasions. he asked me to be on "his side" and a request like that strikes a capricorn deeply coming from a scorpio who always is x10 in a relationship.
plus??_ jesus??_ if you don't, then there's their retribution afterwards if they feel emotionally betrayed.
aside from all that??_ it's like having a best friend who stands by you no matter what, and that's why they are your best friend. they'll put up with the bs, but still push you to be better. i don't ever expect a friend/lover to do that for me, but when it happens it's amazing and it shows a certain level of loyalty that's hard to mess with.
i'd be on my bf's side if there was an issue between he and my friends where he was wrong. i'd ask for my friends to be patient, and i'd let my bf know in private he should try thinking about things differently.
Posted by Aries04
I just find my Cap taking sides sometimes and usually he takes the side of what he perceives as being fair. So when I act out (sometimes for a good reason, sometimes irrationally) he seldom has my back I feel like.. To me, even if I know he's not right, in front of a public or friends I would always hold him down and talk about it later. But he has no problem telling me that I messed up and kind of "punish" me for it even in front of his friends, which is super odd and hurtful to me as I hate carrying out problems in public. But I guess I start it in the first place myself..


In all honesty, I'm more like him with the people I love. I won't let people gang up on that person, but I'm not going to pretend I agree with your actions knowing darn well I feel some type of way.
If anything, I become a bit pissed inside that I'm put in an uncomfortable position to even have to think about making a choice. The more I'm put in that position, the more I let you fend for yourself. I usually like chill, drama and stress free environments. If someone I'm with is preventing me from being comfortable I'm upset about it.
btw, not to say his actions may be from him being upset. it's just how these situations affect me personally.
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Posted by noname
i'd expect my scorp to take my side, without a doubt. one time i woke up in the morning upset telling scorp his best buddy kicked me in my dream and scorp said he will punch his face lol. if it's the other way around, i'd tell everyone to fuck off.
it wouldn't happen though because scorp is a smooth talker lol



i would def expect this from a scorp and a scorp/cap relationship. always on each other's side.
to the op??_ i would take my partner's side. talk to them in private later about how i felt and why.
and tbh??_ it's mostly because of my relationships with scorpios that i now see the value in these actions. there's no telling now if i would have grown into the same sentiments.



How did you learn the value in that specifically? What did they do/what has happened to teach you?


it's about trusting your partner, and knowing you'll both have one another's back. and it wasn't really any one case that taught me in those past relationships, it's more his manner and what he seemed to want from me on a few occasions. he asked me to be on "his side" and a request like that strikes a capricorn deeply coming from a scorpio who always is x10 in a relationship.
plus??_ jesus??_ if you don't, then there's their retribution afterwards if they feel emotionally betrayed.
aside from all that??_ it's like having a best friend who stands by you no matter what, and that's why they are your best friend. they'll put up with the bs, but still push you to be better. i don't ever expect a friend/lover to do that for me, but when it happens it's amazing and it shows a certain level of loyalty that's hard to mess with.
i'd be on my bf's side if there was an issue between he and my friends where he was wrong. i'd ask for my friends to be patient, and i'd let my bf know in private he should try thinking about things differently.
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Do you think it would work the other way around too? Meaning the cap being the male.. I'm trying to push through (what I feel is) BS, but I feel like the dynamics are different wh
.. but I feel like the dynamics are different when a woman works hard to get the relationship on track, than when a guy does that. The latter is kind of "expected" from a man and they are used to working to get something they want. Now that I "screwed up" before him and his friends I have to patiently work my way back into their hearts and it feels strange.
Posted by AL4813
i would protect and defend my loved one.. since she is a loved one.. she is a level above the friend level and plus the fact that she would be left alone against everyone else and i dont like seeing someone alone getting bullied..... depending on what she did... i will scold her later



That's what I'm talking about! Have you always been like this or did that come with the years?
Posted by truecap
Depends on the subject and who I agree with. If I agree with the SO, I'd take their side. If I agree with the friends, I'd take theirs. It isn't going to be a case of loyalty, because I'd be loyal to all of them. I'd have to go with my personal thoughts and feelings on the subject at hand.
Mostly, I'd try to smooth it over and offer each the other's viewpoint to see if I could get them to come to a compromise.
Probably not the answer my SO would want to hear, but that's just the way I am. I'm my own person with my own thoughts and ideas.


This. +1
Caps like independent people and I'm sure you can hold your own. You're an Aries afterall.
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And this. Winking

BUT...
There is more than one way to spin this. Showing why both sides might be right and then telling them this is not the kind of topic for polite conversation usually does the trick.
I will go with honesty and being fair if I can. Don't even think of putting me on the spot because I will leave you there to steep in your own juices and just state my own opinion.
Interfering is hurtful enough in these cases to both parties but simply staying out of it to only talk to them in private without anyone knowing doesn't solve anything.
It will just mean that neither person forgets and starts acting more and more hostile because they think they get away with it.
Besides, I love the tug of a good debate so I won't be able to keep quiet. Big Grin
"It will just mean that neither person forgets and starts acting more and more hostile because they think they get away with it."
I mean "...because they think the other person gets away with it because he or she is your friend/significant other."
Posted by Aries04
Following scenario:
You and your significant other hang out with your friends. Something comes up and she says or does something that you don't agree with. All your friends start going against your significant other. Do you take the side of what you think is fair and correct or do you rather protect and defend your loved one? Please elaborate..


Depends on the way the others are going against. Imagine they are shouting in a restaurant to anyone to hear, even if I agree with them I will defend her because of their behavior, not their reason.
But usually in never that serious, I will put laugh at it or ignore it.
Anyway, she is my super capricorn woman, she defends me instead Tongue And she is capable of defending herself very well.
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Posted by noname
sometimes i wonder whether i'm really a capricorn. actually not just me. my cap mom and cap bff wonder about that sometimes too lol
i would take a bullet for real for 3 individuals in my life (and no more than 3 i guarantee you, my loyalty is always with myself lol) in my life - my parents and my scorp. so if any friend thinks i'd take their side against scorp, they are out of their mind or they don't know me at all which most don't lol
i know and trust my scorp. he would not argue for the sake of arguing. he is a pleasant and easy going person without a big ego at all so i don't even need to hear what the argument is about to be to take his side. the only time i would force myself to stay neutral is when the other party is his buddy or a family because i know it will pass quickly and he wouldn't want me to get involved.






Maybe it's your moon and asc. placements?
And the key to you behaving like this is that you TRUST your scorp.. Mine doesn't seem to trust me.

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