Need advice with Cappy male !!
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Had been with my Cappy for almost 4 years. I was the first serious long-term relationship he's ever had (he's 38). He pretty much put off dating and got his education..after that he just didn't meet anyone he liked or had chemistry with. About 8 months ago, he got into a bad depression, had low self-esteem, said he felt like a loser and was really moody in our relationship. He told me that he needed to get his life together cuz he felt like a loser not working and that maybe he needed to date other girls (since he hadn't been around much)..he felt like maybe he was missing out. That was in July. That night he told me he will always be crazy about me and his parents really liked me (never told me that b4). He still calls/texts me ALL the time, tells me I'm the best thing ever happened to him,that he will always want and desire me, cares about me more than anything. Said he just needs to figure things out. He never goes anywhere and usually stays home and listens to conservative talk radio (he's really into politics).When he heard that I was actually friends with my ex-husband he got real quiet and just changed the subject. When we talk I ask how everything is... He has told me that he hasn't gone out yet..what gives with him? Should I not talk to him for a week so he will really feel the loss of me not in his life? After we had cooled it he once told me he couldn't picture me not in his life...When he calls I usually talk to him. Cappys PLEASE ADVISE !!
He pretty much put off dating and got his education..after that he just didn't meet anyone he liked or had chemistry with.
Your cap man sounds alot like the rest of us ^_^. Usually (and I will say usually) we don't just 'date' for the sake of having someone to roll around with in the sack or for mere arm-candy. We date with a purpose hahahaha, we believe that we understand what we want and need so we are a bit cautious of who we want to be with. Its not that we take forever to make up our minds (never ever that) but if we are not sure about something, then hold off until we find something better or just drop everything and walk away (this only goes for caps with extreme moon placements). We don't like wasting time, so we like everything to have a purpose
Should I not talk to him for a week so he will really feel the loss of me not in his life?
oooooo, I wouldn't do that if I were you ....
Your cap man sounds alot like the rest of us ^_^. Usually (and I will say usually) we don't just 'date' for the sake of having someone to roll around with in the sack or for mere arm-candy. We date with a purpose hahahaha, we believe that we understand what we want and need so we are a bit cautious of who we want to be with. Its not that we take forever to make up our minds (never ever that) but if we are not sure about something, then hold off until we find something better or just drop everything and walk away (this only goes for caps with extreme moon placements). We don't like wasting time, so we like everything to have a purpose
Should I not talk to him for a week so he will really feel the loss of me not in his life?
oooooo, I wouldn't do that if I were you ....
Capricorn men would rather be alone than with someone that they don't like. They're very picky and he wouldn't say the things he's telling you unless he means it. Obviously he's very insecure and depressed. Try to be there for him but let him know that you can't put your life on hold for him.
Ariesbabe
I am an Aries too and have been seeing a Jan 8, 1957 (51) cap since May 07 after reconnecting then at a wedding he was here in town for. He lives 5hrs. away. I ended things with him in 1993 because I was seeing someone else and too confused. He called me 1 or 2 yrs later and said he was getting married.
Didn't hear again until one night in 2004, he called and said he was divorced and the first thing he asked me was if I was happy.
He continued to call once in while after that while seeing old high school gf and I was dating too. (the 5 hr thing) Calls me about the wedding and said old gf was gone and would I like to go to wedding. We talked about how we changed and grew and all was so positive. He had so many plans for us and elaborated on them, saw each other that whole summer and in the meantime he had applied for new position. Hinted around at things pertaining to our future.
Like at the wedding I said, "I can't picture being mother of the bride someday and he said, I hope I can be there for you." Lots of subtle hints about future. Told me he thought about me while marrying other woman, and it was not bs, very sincere tone in his voice. Told me he was devasted when I ended it.
Also, after we reconnected I remembered him taking me to a really pretty spot in the 90's and he acted sort of nervous and strange like he wanted to say something (he does that alot) but turned and walked away quickly.
All of sudden in Aug of 07 he stopped contacting me abruptly and I knew nothing about the cap traits at the time and I emailed and called to ask, he was suddenly very short and his tone was irritated.
I said we will have to postpone our Aug trip.
He said, "Seeing you would only exagerate the problem and I have been working on it since May and I have to deal with it now." May was when we reconnected.
At the time I didn't know it but he had just heard he didn't get the job. You know the career thing....I didn't know that when on the phone and I asked him if his coolness was due to someone else and he gave very short curt answers "NO"
Then after I pushed 3 times he said yes and then he said I'll call you and I said no don't bother.
Well 3 weeks later he did and when I answered he said "There is no one else...I had just heard I didn't get the job and you were pushing for an answer." He told me he was not sleeping and feeling bad for treating everyone so badly...family, employees, me.
I am an Aries too and have been seeing a Jan 8, 1957 (51) cap since May 07 after reconnecting then at a wedding he was here in town for. He lives 5hrs. away. I ended things with him in 1993 because I was seeing someone else and too confused. He called me 1 or 2 yrs later and said he was getting married.
Didn't hear again until one night in 2004, he called and said he was divorced and the first thing he asked me was if I was happy.
He continued to call once in while after that while seeing old high school gf and I was dating too. (the 5 hr thing) Calls me about the wedding and said old gf was gone and would I like to go to wedding. We talked about how we changed and grew and all was so positive. He had so many plans for us and elaborated on them, saw each other that whole summer and in the meantime he had applied for new position. Hinted around at things pertaining to our future.
Like at the wedding I said, "I can't picture being mother of the bride someday and he said, I hope I can be there for you." Lots of subtle hints about future. Told me he thought about me while marrying other woman, and it was not bs, very sincere tone in his voice. Told me he was devasted when I ended it.
Also, after we reconnected I remembered him taking me to a really pretty spot in the 90's and he acted sort of nervous and strange like he wanted to say something (he does that alot) but turned and walked away quickly.
All of sudden in Aug of 07 he stopped contacting me abruptly and I knew nothing about the cap traits at the time and I emailed and called to ask, he was suddenly very short and his tone was irritated.
I said we will have to postpone our Aug trip.
He said, "Seeing you would only exagerate the problem and I have been working on it since May and I have to deal with it now." May was when we reconnected.
At the time I didn't know it but he had just heard he didn't get the job. You know the career thing....I didn't know that when on the phone and I asked him if his coolness was due to someone else and he gave very short curt answers "NO"
Then after I pushed 3 times he said yes and then he said I'll call you and I said no don't bother.
Well 3 weeks later he did and when I answered he said "There is no one else...I had just heard I didn't get the job and you were pushing for an answer." He told me he was not sleeping and feeling bad for treating everyone so badly...family, employees, me.
I never heard from him again until Dec 1 (I was so confused by the attentiveness and then he just slacked off. He said in Dec I don't want to lose you.)I think he was over the job loss?? We got together at the end of Dec. Well I never got phone calls on any holidays or New Years and I missed the normal relationship interaction. We did exchange gifts. It seemed like whenever I tried to do normal couple things, he would be cold.
But yet at other times he was so loving. We had a great weekend at end of Dec. I used to wonder if he saw other people, but many times he called on Sat night 8:30 to midnight. Date time. If he was on a date he wouldn't have called me.
After my visit he called a month later...a month??? I'll never get these guys where do they go???
Said he was looking at houses for us and wanted to get his first marriage annulled to remarry in Catholic church. Never being direct always hinting.He said he thought I may not want to relocate from my hometown.
I never called him and I gave him space and let him pursue. Got ticked off because I sent him valentine day card and small gift and nothing from him, but he did call that night and I missed it. But he would never call back the next night...weird. Also he totally ingnored my Apr bday. Around the begining of Apr I checked out his myspace and saw some women on there and dating was selected and he had started it in June right after we reconnected. I rationalized it, he may have not known we were going, his neice set it up for him and she didn't know etc, we never agreed to be exclusive. I was still hurt and texted I think we should end this. He called me and said, "So do I, and then I said,"Do we really mean this and he said, "no." He told me some fake excuse that he had another call and he would call me...never did. That same day he had resigned from a board he was on because of the job loss because he was resentful. Maybe he was on the phone who knows. I would get hurt because he wouldn't turn to me when troubled. I emailed him in summer because I never heard from him and we started talking again. He was attentive with texts and calls again. But when it came time to making plans, sometimes he would stall. We got together in Oct and he said on phone before we met, I am going to talk positive about us and I said I hope it's positive" and he said "Read between the lines" We got together at a place we used to stay at in the 90's at his suggestion and he wasnted to go back the place where I fitst se
But yet at other times he was so loving. We had a great weekend at end of Dec. I used to wonder if he saw other people, but many times he called on Sat night 8:30 to midnight. Date time. If he was on a date he wouldn't have called me.
After my visit he called a month later...a month??? I'll never get these guys where do they go???
Said he was looking at houses for us and wanted to get his first marriage annulled to remarry in Catholic church. Never being direct always hinting.He said he thought I may not want to relocate from my hometown.
I never called him and I gave him space and let him pursue. Got ticked off because I sent him valentine day card and small gift and nothing from him, but he did call that night and I missed it. But he would never call back the next night...weird. Also he totally ingnored my Apr bday. Around the begining of Apr I checked out his myspace and saw some women on there and dating was selected and he had started it in June right after we reconnected. I rationalized it, he may have not known we were going, his neice set it up for him and she didn't know etc, we never agreed to be exclusive. I was still hurt and texted I think we should end this. He called me and said, "So do I, and then I said,"Do we really mean this and he said, "no." He told me some fake excuse that he had another call and he would call me...never did. That same day he had resigned from a board he was on because of the job loss because he was resentful. Maybe he was on the phone who knows. I would get hurt because he wouldn't turn to me when troubled. I emailed him in summer because I never heard from him and we started talking again. He was attentive with texts and calls again. But when it came time to making plans, sometimes he would stall. We got together in Oct and he said on phone before we met, I am going to talk positive about us and I said I hope it's positive" and he said "Read between the lines" We got together at a place we used to stay at in the 90's at his suggestion and he wasnted to go back the place where I fitst se
where I first sensed he like me...he pushed his chair close to mine when choosing seats and I felt it there. That was the moment.
I did drink too much wine that weekend in Oct and when we went to bed that night I got a little emtional and passionate. I told him it was "that time" The next morning (since he never said anything I did)I said we have 3 choices,
end it, continue to date long distance date or become serious. He said, "I will write you a letter, not a goodbye letter though." At dinner the night before I had said If you ever need to tell me goodbye please send a letter.
I thought that was positive. He still seemed to be interested that weekend...right before we met that weekend he said, "I think the world of you and I think you're beautiful."
And that weekend I got up to get him a beer and he stared at me and said,"You are so cute"
These guys send so many mixed signals.
I did cry a little when we talked because I said I knew at the wedding when we reconnected you would hook me in again and you did and that's when I got a little choked up. It's "that time remember?" I walked away into the bathroom and he came in and said, "Lets say goodbye in here" and gave me one of those cheap hugs they give, and I said, "Hug me". Then we left and he said I'll call you. That was 6 weeks ago and nothing yet. I sent an email and said I was getting fed up...because people tell me I should not put up with it. I sent another apolgizing for sounding angry. Then one more friendly one about something going on in my life. So they didn't sound too angry...just my thoughts about us. No replies at all.
Cappy men...help
has he lost interest?
is he disappointed in himself...people say not to take it personally when they
ignore?
is he in the cave/shell thinking about it/us?
dating others to be sure about us?
was it my tears...they werent't excessive..I thought men liked women with hearts?
He did this after the job loss too. 4 months
I need to know, he planted marriage seeds... and then left, I have never pushed him that way.
I did drink too much wine that weekend in Oct and when we went to bed that night I got a little emtional and passionate. I told him it was "that time" The next morning (since he never said anything I did)I said we have 3 choices,
end it, continue to date long distance date or become serious. He said, "I will write you a letter, not a goodbye letter though." At dinner the night before I had said If you ever need to tell me goodbye please send a letter.
I thought that was positive. He still seemed to be interested that weekend...right before we met that weekend he said, "I think the world of you and I think you're beautiful."
And that weekend I got up to get him a beer and he stared at me and said,"You are so cute"
These guys send so many mixed signals.
I did cry a little when we talked because I said I knew at the wedding when we reconnected you would hook me in again and you did and that's when I got a little choked up. It's "that time remember?" I walked away into the bathroom and he came in and said, "Lets say goodbye in here" and gave me one of those cheap hugs they give, and I said, "Hug me". Then we left and he said I'll call you. That was 6 weeks ago and nothing yet. I sent an email and said I was getting fed up...because people tell me I should not put up with it. I sent another apolgizing for sounding angry. Then one more friendly one about something going on in my life. So they didn't sound too angry...just my thoughts about us. No replies at all.
Cappy men...help
has he lost interest?
is he disappointed in himself...people say not to take it personally when they
ignore?
is he in the cave/shell thinking about it/us?
dating others to be sure about us?
was it my tears...they werent't excessive..I thought men liked women with hearts?
He did this after the job loss too. 4 months
I need to know, he planted marriage seeds... and then left, I have never pushed him that way.
renee,
forget the e-mailing. believe me i know from experience.
call him and just ask him to call you so you can chat, that you need to just talk to him for a few minutes.
i went through this whole thing with my caps more than once & they just don't respond well to upset e-mails. they run.
if you talk in person you'll clear the air. don't be shy. he'll be flattered that you care.
forget the e-mailing. believe me i know from experience.
call him and just ask him to call you so you can chat, that you need to just talk to him for a few minutes.
i went through this whole thing with my caps more than once & they just don't respond well to upset e-mails. they run.
if you talk in person you'll clear the air. don't be shy. he'll be flattered that you care.
Bullisha
The fact that he hasn't contacted me since we met Oct 4 makes me afraid to call. I think he is cutting me off like some of the cap men have stated on the boards. One of them said either you did something wrong and he found out, he has lost interest and is cutting you off, or I forget the last one. My emails were not upset. I told him I care and that what he thinks is important to me. No touchy feely stuff. The only thing I had said was I was getting fed up because I hadn't heard from him and then I used straightforward talk and got right to the point. I proceeded to tell him my needs. Why does he say he'll write a letter and never does? Lazy??? Is he stalling? Do they tell you when they want to end or just keep you hanging?
I am tempted not to call, so he can chase. I have a question about the men and the chase thing....when they finally catch you, (the chase can't last forever), are they bored because they have "caught you?" At what point does it get past that?
And no mention of whether we are casually dating, in a relationship or anything. Geez after 15 yrs we should know something. Is there even a way to get them to open up? Whenever I mention it he just sits there and seems annoyed, so I drop it. Honestly, he has made most of the suggestions by phone and I don't push. But when he said we would talk positive, I was disappointed we didn't. Do cap's also say they are going to do something and then not do it or change plans frequently? This one does it all the time.
I feel as if I am being used, but his words to me in the past 3 to 4 yrs don't indicate that...is he lying...who lies about a house and getting previous marriage annulled to marry in church? Is he testing to see how I'll react? On the other hand we are 5 hrs apart and it's hard to get together, but when we reconnected he had said we would get together 2x a month, now he barely calls. Or after he sees me the calls drop off.
The fact that he hasn't contacted me since we met Oct 4 makes me afraid to call. I think he is cutting me off like some of the cap men have stated on the boards. One of them said either you did something wrong and he found out, he has lost interest and is cutting you off, or I forget the last one. My emails were not upset. I told him I care and that what he thinks is important to me. No touchy feely stuff. The only thing I had said was I was getting fed up because I hadn't heard from him and then I used straightforward talk and got right to the point. I proceeded to tell him my needs. Why does he say he'll write a letter and never does? Lazy??? Is he stalling? Do they tell you when they want to end or just keep you hanging?
I am tempted not to call, so he can chase. I have a question about the men and the chase thing....when they finally catch you, (the chase can't last forever), are they bored because they have "caught you?" At what point does it get past that?
And no mention of whether we are casually dating, in a relationship or anything. Geez after 15 yrs we should know something. Is there even a way to get them to open up? Whenever I mention it he just sits there and seems annoyed, so I drop it. Honestly, he has made most of the suggestions by phone and I don't push. But when he said we would talk positive, I was disappointed we didn't. Do cap's also say they are going to do something and then not do it or change plans frequently? This one does it all the time.
I feel as if I am being used, but his words to me in the past 3 to 4 yrs don't indicate that...is he lying...who lies about a house and getting previous marriage annulled to marry in church? Is he testing to see how I'll react? On the other hand we are 5 hrs apart and it's hard to get together, but when we reconnected he had said we would get together 2x a month, now he barely calls. Or after he sees me the calls drop off.
There is so much wrong on so many levels
LOL@LK...and i am sorry...at your age, all i can say is you are a FOOL for putting up with this nonsense....dang LK
LOL@LK...and i am sorry...at your age, all i can say is you are a FOOL for putting up with this nonsense....dang LK
i just cannot believe you sent him an angry email...which he DESERVED!!! and then you apologized!!!
god, go look in the mirror and ask yourself "when did i become this woman who has no self respect?"
Oh dear ... once I say something, I mean what I say, especially if I took the time to write an email to express myself. To apologize from something I felt would make me look weak, I'd even feel weak doing it. No way, stand your ground. There's nothing wrong with talking afterwards but to go back on what you have stated. Yep, I agree with cappywench and leokitten.
A man can easily take your feelings in vain if you don't stand your ground.
god, go look in the mirror and ask yourself "when did i become this woman who has no self respect?"
Oh dear ... once I say something, I mean what I say, especially if I took the time to write an email to express myself. To apologize from something I felt would make me look weak, I'd even feel weak doing it. No way, stand your ground. There's nothing wrong with talking afterwards but to go back on what you have stated. Yep, I agree with cappywench and leokitten.
A man can easily take your feelings in vain if you don't stand your ground.
"after that he just didn't meet anyone he liked or had chemistry with."
Uh Cap men ALWAYS meet women they have chemistry with but he will not pursue more if he's FOCUSED on his life, I hope he didn't tell you that lie or at least you didn't believe him argh!
"About 8 months ago, he got into a bad depression, had low self-esteem, said he felt like a loser and was really moody in our relationship. He told me that he needed to get his life together cuz he felt like a loser not working and that maybe he needed to date other girls (since he hadn't been around much)..he felt like maybe he was missing out. That was in July. That night he told me he will always be crazy about me and his parents really liked me (never told me that b4)."
*Huge Sigh* Another commitment phobic capricorn male, oh gosh, he just wanted out of the binding feeling he had with being with you one on one, he felt closed in, claustrophobic and need an out, wanted to slow things down, he really didn't want OUT OUT, he just needed to feel less confined by the relationship, so he used the I'm depressed card, being depressed and dating other women...that don't even make sense, depressed people ISOLATE themselves, not go date other women
Uh Cap men ALWAYS meet women they have chemistry with but he will not pursue more if he's FOCUSED on his life, I hope he didn't tell you that lie or at least you didn't believe him argh!
"About 8 months ago, he got into a bad depression, had low self-esteem, said he felt like a loser and was really moody in our relationship. He told me that he needed to get his life together cuz he felt like a loser not working and that maybe he needed to date other girls (since he hadn't been around much)..he felt like maybe he was missing out. That was in July. That night he told me he will always be crazy about me and his parents really liked me (never told me that b4)."
*Huge Sigh* Another commitment phobic capricorn male, oh gosh, he just wanted out of the binding feeling he had with being with you one on one, he felt closed in, claustrophobic and need an out, wanted to slow things down, he really didn't want OUT OUT, he just needed to feel less confined by the relationship, so he used the I'm depressed card, being depressed and dating other women...that don't even make sense, depressed people ISOLATE themselves, not go date other women
He will come back when he's gotten himself in a better place, don't be afraid that he won't call you again, he will but you have to let him know that your to be respected and you need to have both feet on the ground and not be thrown off or distracted by him coming in and out of your life
1. repeatedly letting a man back
2. setting no boundaries and allowing him to walk all over you to the point where friends and neighbors will start referring to you as "doormat"
3. online cyberstalking....and subsequent excuse making.
4. tons of excuse making for him...it is his job you see!!! it is not that he is rude and a fuckhead!!!
5. desparation...."i am so sorry that for a second i managed to have a spine!"
6. waiting on pins and needles for a sign of approval....
7. listening to words and ignorning actions.
Being a doormat sucks! Especially when you are 20 and realize it
Thank god I'm 23 and I understand more.
Renee needs our help
2. setting no boundaries and allowing him to walk all over you to the point where friends and neighbors will start referring to you as "doormat"
3. online cyberstalking....and subsequent excuse making.
4. tons of excuse making for him...it is his job you see!!! it is not that he is rude and a fuckhead!!!
5. desparation...."i am so sorry that for a second i managed to have a spine!"
6. waiting on pins and needles for a sign of approval....
7. listening to words and ignorning actions.
Being a doormat sucks! Especially when you are 20 and realize it
Thank god I'm 23 and I understand more.Renee needs our help
why can't these men do the manly thing and give closure.
They don't understand the meaning. I'm not being mean or anyting, this is my opinion
They don't understand the meaning. I'm not being mean or anyting, this is my opinion
YEAH! Leokitten 
well...i am at a bit of loss on how to teach a grown woman with life experience to respect herself.
Oh well thats easy ^_^. Just don't expect the unexpected. Just because a person has been on this earth for a long period of time doesn't mean that they no anymore then they did since the day they were born, you know?
Oh well thats easy ^_^. Just don't expect the unexpected. Just because a person has been on this earth for a long period of time doesn't mean that they no anymore then they did since the day they were born, you know?
He's confusing you with his in and out behavior, stop ENABLING his bad behavior, meaning if he wants to pump the breaks on the relationship then he needs to go until he can figure out what he wants, don't just keep letting him in and responding to him and reacting to him as if your still in a relationship, don't discuss your life with him, he doesn't need to know about your personal business, it will just make him WITHDRAW more, just keep it easy and light, give him 5 minutes of your time and go on your way...the less you react the better off you are, meaning be apathetic as if you could care less, it's his problem not yours...don't discuss feelings, love and don't care about how he's doing...who cares, he chose to leave...I actually had an ex feign sick and I told him I didn't care, I cussed him slap out after he called me a bitch and what does he do up to this very day, he calls me begging for me to come back and this after I told him to leave me alone, the very guy that ran from saying I love you and I miss you is feeding me love on a daily only because I could give to squats about him...if I didn't understand commitment phobic men I would fall for it but I allow him to pine away because I know as soon as I say ok lets try ...HE IS GONE...this is the same guy that never could commit to anyone or anything
Your Cap will come back when he's gotten himself in a better place, but yo have to say NO this isn't working for me and let him go, don't be afraid that he won't call you again, the less you let him in the more he will try hard to get back in, your actions have to let him know that your to be respected
Your Cap will come back when he's gotten himself in a better place, but yo have to say NO this isn't working for me and let him go, don't be afraid that he won't call you again, the less you let him in the more he will try hard to get back in, your actions have to let him know that your to be respected
sorry...ariesbabe
"screw men and closure....this woman needs to CLOSE THE BOOK HERSELF!!!! there has to be a guy within an hours radius who is better than this loser!"
There ya go...ding ding ding...women with low self esteem need closure...women who know they are queens keep moving and don't ever look back
I don't say this to offend but I find that women who aren't sure of themselves and I was one of them at one point and time in my life, need closure, I CLOSE the door that's how that plays out, I don't give him a chance to reject me more by coming in and out, I don't need him to tell me anything and don't come back ya here
There ya go...ding ding ding...women with low self esteem need closure...women who know they are queens keep moving and don't ever look back
I don't say this to offend but I find that women who aren't sure of themselves and I was one of them at one point and time in my life, need closure, I CLOSE the door that's how that plays out, I don't give him a chance to reject me more by coming in and out, I don't need him to tell me anything and don't come back ya here
""Your Cap will come back when he's gotten himself in a better place"
I didn't say that to give her hope, I said that because that's what they ALL do, they come and go and if a woman can just slam the breaks on her emotions and use logic and end the back and forth behavior once and for all by letting go and I mean, mentally, emotionally and physically she will stop enabling poor behavior towards her
These men only want relationships on their terms, they use emotional abuse to confuse and abuse women, emotional abuse includes IGNORING which is one of the worst things to do to a person
I didn't say that to give her hope, I said that because that's what they ALL do, they come and go and if a woman can just slam the breaks on her emotions and use logic and end the back and forth behavior once and for all by letting go and I mean, mentally, emotionally and physically she will stop enabling poor behavior towards her
These men only want relationships on their terms, they use emotional abuse to confuse and abuse women, emotional abuse includes IGNORING which is one of the worst things to do to a person
:I am tempted not to call, so he can chase. :
renee,
forget about blaming him for what he's doing. look at what you're doing.
play these kind of games, expect him to play them back.
i don't think you really want him, sounds like you want him to want you.
renee,
forget about blaming him for what he's doing. look at what you're doing.
play these kind of games, expect him to play them back.
i don't think you really want him, sounds like you want him to want you.
i don't think apologizing for being angry is weak. it's polite. you'd do it at work with your peers, so why not do it in person?
ladies niceness is not weakness.
what is weak is being wishy washy about what we want or accepting less than what we want.
apologies for meanness is never weak.
ladies niceness is not weakness.
what is weak is being wishy washy about what we want or accepting less than what we want.
apologies for meanness is never weak.
i think ariesbabe's question regarding if he's still interested is kind of missing the point. no capricorn male wants to be in a relationship when they are unemployed. the mixed signals are just "i want to be with you, but i'm a worthless piece of shite right now, so i can't."
have we forgotten that caps always always always put work first?
it is the barometer of their life, love and livelihood.
have we forgotten that caps always always always put work first?
it is the barometer of their life, love and livelihood.
these guys always have excuses, work, no work, school no school, friends, families, hobbies, exes...can we say scared just scared...of intimacy
capricorn men (not all but quite a few) don't want to be in relationships that feel like relationships not all but I have huge amounts of cap in my chart and yes I had to deal with my intimacy issues, they don't want to need or want anyone, they isolate themselves and it goes on and on and on
capricorn men (not all but quite a few) don't want to be in relationships that feel like relationships not all but I have huge amounts of cap in my chart and yes I had to deal with my intimacy issues, they don't want to need or want anyone, they isolate themselves and it goes on and on and on
Where have you all been? My cappy situation is very similar to all of the other cappy behaviour on these posts. Did you all ever think that he is afraid of committment and fearful of getting hurt again (another cappy trait)after a divorce? And being cautious? (also a trait) I am not a doormat, just an understanding person... and I think it out...sometimes what you see isn't always the case. Did you not read where I said when we met I thought he didn't like me and meanwhile he did, because he HID it. Oh and cappy's are also not into the gift giving, mushy stuff. (read up on it) Many horoscopes say, "Don't expect a lot of flowers and gifts and touchy feely stuff , but they are loyal." And I did receive diamond necklace at Christmas and he called Valentines Day. And as far as bday I did not do anything for his either.
Most cappy horoscopes also say, the patient woman wins his heart...be patient, these guys take a long time.....I am not defending him...geez it isn't really as bad as you are all maing it out to be. And the email was not angry....just firm. Cyberstalking...what the heck? How was I doing that?
On another board not one person insulted me the way you guys have. They both said to call him cause he is cautious and needs you to be his friend and bring him out to talk.
Most cappy horoscopes also say, the patient woman wins his heart...be patient, these guys take a long time.....I am not defending him...geez it isn't really as bad as you are all maing it out to be. And the email was not angry....just firm. Cyberstalking...what the heck? How was I doing that?
On another board not one person insulted me the way you guys have. They both said to call him cause he is cautious and needs you to be his friend and bring him out to talk.
Check out this is awkwards post on page 1
leokitten
Can you please point out where the disrespect has occurred?
Can you please point out where the disrespect has occurred?
Friends and neighbors did not refer to me as doormat as far as actions vs words pretty hard to show actions when your 5 hrs away...these are not excuses, they are facts. Letting a man back?...we never fought. He did nothing wrong....yes he didn't call after job heartbreak, but he did and he heartfully apologized.
I am not waiting on pins and needles, I am not any different from any of these other women involved with caps on these boards. I am taking it slow as I was advised and so is he. I stood my ground in the email, I just said I was sorry for the "tone" of it, but I did not apologize for the words. It's ok to be sweet once in while and not so b**chy.
You guys have nerve calling him rude...read the insults to me above. At least he never did that!!! Do any of you know anything about love and forgiveness?
And by the way I did ask for closure.
Do you all realize that for us to marry I would have to quit my job and move 5 hrs away to be with him and uproot my whole life, with an 85 yr old dad I take care of? He has told me he knows this is a major change and we are examining all the angles. This is what we/he is struggling with. We are thinking things thru, seeing others, and not interested in making a serious mistake again on both of our parts. But yes I do agree he should be talking to me, but like I said this seems to be cap trait. And as far as reconnecting with l. term ex, look at all the people you see on tv and in the news, internet that do that, meet an old love and rekindle...not very uncommon actually.
I am not waiting on pins and needles, I am not any different from any of these other women involved with caps on these boards. I am taking it slow as I was advised and so is he. I stood my ground in the email, I just said I was sorry for the "tone" of it, but I did not apologize for the words. It's ok to be sweet once in while and not so b**chy.
You guys have nerve calling him rude...read the insults to me above. At least he never did that!!! Do any of you know anything about love and forgiveness?
And by the way I did ask for closure.
Do you all realize that for us to marry I would have to quit my job and move 5 hrs away to be with him and uproot my whole life, with an 85 yr old dad I take care of? He has told me he knows this is a major change and we are examining all the angles. This is what we/he is struggling with. We are thinking things thru, seeing others, and not interested in making a serious mistake again on both of our parts. But yes I do agree he should be talking to me, but like I said this seems to be cap trait. And as far as reconnecting with l. term ex, look at all the people you see on tv and in the news, internet that do that, meet an old love and rekindle...not very uncommon actually.
Good advice tiki...cap male and aries female....she ends up emotionally starved.
tiki...if he is committment phobe why did he marry someone a year or two after I ended with him?
Commitnent phobes don't marry do they?
Commitnent phobes don't marry do they?
Hi everyone: Thanks for all your postings. I understand he probably feels worthless about himself and his living situation at his parent's is a total negative. I noticed the change in him when he gave everything up in Calif and moved back East. The longer he's out of work the worse things are for him. I'll just give him more space and when we talk I'll keep the calls to a minimum (instead of hours like we usually do). The longest we've usually gone without talking is about a week, but I know it's just him taking his time and doing his own thing and probably has nothing to do with me.
Renee: If I hadn't heard from mine since the beginning of October, that would be it. I wouldn't contact him and just get on with my life (unless he forewarned me he had something going on). When he does contact you, be nonchalant and just ask him how he is, and keep the call to a minimum..make sure you are the one to end the call...THEN DON'T CONTACT HIM AGAIN..MAKE HIM EARN YOUR LOVE. With my guy, I never emailed or texted a lot (unless be were both doing it). In the first year of our relationship we had gotten into a fight and he was going to walk out of my house without trying to talk things out. I told him if he walked out that door, don't come back. I told him to think long and hard before he chose. He kept walking back and forth into my room to talk to me (he didn't leave). He told me later that he just couldn't walk away from me and he could never stay mad at me. We had several big arguments and one time I told him I felt it was all a waste (I was fuming that day). He was soooo depressed as he thought it was over that he went grocery shopping at 2:00 AM...LOL.However, even during our disagreement periods, he never disappeared and we've never gone without talking for more than a week I believe. Like one of the posters mentioned..our relationship was too intense for us and he did feel smothered. The big issue was one time I was feeling insecure and wasn't trusting him. I mistakenly left him a text when he was walking from class with a girl I knew was only a friend. The text was teasing him that he never answers his phone when he was walking with her.Well, that did not go over well with him and he was really mad. I really wish I would have found this board back then. I didn't know how loyal and trustworthy Caps are when they are in love. He told me he never even thought of other women. It's been a year and we're still the best of friends.
Renee: If I hadn't heard from mine since the beginning of October, that would be it. I wouldn't contact him and just get on with my life (unless he forewarned me he had something going on). When he does contact you, be nonchalant and just ask him how he is, and keep the call to a minimum..make sure you are the one to end the call...THEN DON'T CONTACT HIM AGAIN..MAKE HIM EARN YOUR LOVE. With my guy, I never emailed or texted a lot (unless be were both doing it). In the first year of our relationship we had gotten into a fight and he was going to walk out of my house without trying to talk things out. I told him if he walked out that door, don't come back. I told him to think long and hard before he chose. He kept walking back and forth into my room to talk to me (he didn't leave). He told me later that he just couldn't walk away from me and he could never stay mad at me. We had several big arguments and one time I told him I felt it was all a waste (I was fuming that day). He was soooo depressed as he thought it was over that he went grocery shopping at 2:00 AM...LOL.However, even during our disagreement periods, he never disappeared and we've never gone without talking for more than a week I believe. Like one of the posters mentioned..our relationship was too intense for us and he did feel smothered. The big issue was one time I was feeling insecure and wasn't trusting him. I mistakenly left him a text when he was walking from class with a girl I knew was only a friend. The text was teasing him that he never answers his phone when he was walking with her.Well, that did not go over well with him and he was really mad. I really wish I would have found this board back then. I didn't know how loyal and trustworthy Caps are when they are in love. He told me he never even thought of other women. It's been a year and we're still the best of friends.
The only reason I have to talk to my ex-husband is because my oldest son got into an accident in the UK and is still there. My "friend" knows that is the only reason I talk to him, however he doesn't like the idea that I have to !!
Commitment phobes don't marry do they? Yes they get married but they don't stay married thus the high statistical rate of divorce, if a woman can convince him marriage is better than being single by avoiding all the fatal errors most single women make, strike while the fires hot then he will marry but I assure you he's looking for a way out as quickly as he's looking for a way in
The only reason I have to talk to my ex-husband is because my oldest son got into an accident in the UK and is still there. My "friend" knows that is the only reason I talk to him, however he doesn't like the idea that I have to !!
ariesbabe, no disrespect, he doesn't care, he seems to care but its just another OUT CLAUSE for him, these men MAKE UP reasons not to be with women, sorry but he will just use it as ammunition to stay out of the relationship and this is why I say stop doing the typical things like being super understanding, being super patient, waiting argh!!! because they don't work, what works is walking away, letting go and believe it or not some women want to keep there relationships with commitment phobic men, you better learn how to stop using your female instincts with this guy or you will stay forever confused, a huge dose of apathy and indifference is need with these kind of men to make them feel safe enough to stay around
just stop caring, I don't care go, there's the door, I don't feel like talking bye and don't care if he calls back, you have to be tough inside and set some strong boundaries or you will be a doormat and being understanding is being a doormat...What exactly are you understanding? He's not a child, he's a grown ass man...stop enabling his phobia with your understanding...that makes him feel WEAK and no man wants to be nurtured, he needs you to be tough so he can jolt himself out of that way of thinking
ariesbabe, no disrespect, he doesn't care, he seems to care but its just another OUT CLAUSE for him, these men MAKE UP reasons not to be with women, sorry but he will just use it as ammunition to stay out of the relationship and this is why I say stop doing the typical things like being super understanding, being super patient, waiting argh!!! because they don't work, what works is walking away, letting go and believe it or not some women want to keep there relationships with commitment phobic men, you better learn how to stop using your female instincts with this guy or you will stay forever confused, a huge dose of apathy and indifference is need with these kind of men to make them feel safe enough to stay around
just stop caring, I don't care go, there's the door, I don't feel like talking bye and don't care if he calls back, you have to be tough inside and set some strong boundaries or you will be a doormat and being understanding is being a doormat...What exactly are you understanding? He's not a child, he's a grown ass man...stop enabling his phobia with your understanding...that makes him feel WEAK and no man wants to be nurtured, he needs you to be tough so he can jolt himself out of that way of thinking
I can't understand why everyone is making a big deal out of the fact that he hasn't called, when I have read the same scenario on some many other posts which tells me that there are other caps doing this. I read one where it was 9 months! I read that it is similar to when a goat (cap) goes up on the mountain to clear things out and then he always comes back, just like a goat. I know that sounds silly, but yet it may be true.
I did ask him for a letter if he wanted to say goodbye, and he said,"I'll write a letter but it won't be goodbye" I really think the 5 hr distance is causing some of the problem. We don't know how to go about seeing each other frequently. I am giving up because he should have called.
Here is another scenario I would like perspective on:
My daughter had college boyfriend, who was cheating(don't know if they agreed to be exclusive) she ended it and was not mean just said it's over and left. She was not mean, or firm. Nor did she tell him off, she was just nice. He still calls her and wants her back because she was nice (he told her) and the girl he is with now is a b**ch. So I am not convinced that you always have to be this non doormat person and not to take crap and stand up for yourself, yes she broke it off but she was nice about it. She didn't slam the door in his face so to speak. He came back because he realized she was sweet and nice. And she would talk to him when he emailed, you guys are telling me to not even talk. He still calls her because he is sorry and she treated him like a woman with a heart. She respect for herself and others. I do respect myself I just refuse to be a b*tch.
I did ask him for a letter if he wanted to say goodbye, and he said,"I'll write a letter but it won't be goodbye" I really think the 5 hr distance is causing some of the problem. We don't know how to go about seeing each other frequently. I am giving up because he should have called.
Here is another scenario I would like perspective on:
My daughter had college boyfriend, who was cheating(don't know if they agreed to be exclusive) she ended it and was not mean just said it's over and left. She was not mean, or firm. Nor did she tell him off, she was just nice. He still calls her and wants her back because she was nice (he told her) and the girl he is with now is a b**ch. So I am not convinced that you always have to be this non doormat person and not to take crap and stand up for yourself, yes she broke it off but she was nice about it. She didn't slam the door in his face so to speak. He came back because he realized she was sweet and nice. And she would talk to him when he emailed, you guys are telling me to not even talk. He still calls her because he is sorry and she treated him like a woman with a heart. She respect for herself and others. I do respect myself I just refuse to be a b*tch.
you don't have to be mean, matter of fact being tough on the inside (setting strong boundaries) by not taking his crap is what your daughter did and of course he will call back, her behavior is very attractive, she's mature and she loves herself and men love women who love themselves, you can talk to a man while he's trying to figure things out but don't be emotionally involved and tied up, have your own life, date other men, love your life by giving you things that nurture your emotions and make you complete because a man will never make a woman complete and the women who understand this and live by this let men with bad behavior go
you can be yourself, be nice if you choose and have the will and strength to say NO, go away, your not good for me
you can be yourself, be nice if you choose and have the will and strength to say NO, go away, your not good for me
That's what you all are not getting about me. I do my own things and I do not act emotional around him and I am not clingy. But I will listen when someone has something to say. And she went round with him a couple of times before she decided to end it. My point is she wasn't this uncaring go away you make me sick person when she ended...she used her feminine sweetness and I still say men are a sucker for that...not whiny,or dependent just understanding and she listened to what he had to say. He appreciated that. Just because i haven't told this guy off doesn't mean I don't love myself. And I am not tied up, but I will LISTEN. And I don't shut doors on people unless they have given me good reason. Just because he hasn't called is not a reason to hate his guts and think he is a loser. I am ending it though just because it is time. Someone told me caps need time to think deeply and I believe it. I read somewhere men do like a woman with a heart. So it's not that I don't like myself, I just try to give the benefit of the doubt, unless I see otherwise.
In my email I simply put the ball in his court.
Ariesbabe
I have never emailed him and texted alot. I read dating books and took their advice. But here is a question I have about that...how do you ever get to the point when it's ok to do that? You can't play cat and mouse forever, my son's gf calls him alot and he seems to like it. And referring to your arguements we have never argued so I could never put that into practice...what do you think about men are from mars women are from venus when a man goes into a cave to sort things out...how do I know he is not doing that? You see he told me he has fear of my breaking up with him again like I did before. I am going to do the 5 minute on the phone with him thing, if he calls. Just to play it cool. I have never had this before with him, just that one other time. I never called him too much, it's not my style . I don't think he will call though. I was never too available, so I don't get why he would think I was always there. If you are seeing someone if you are not available how do you work out your problems...you have to work at it. If I am cool to him he'll pick up on that and never call again and I would lose him, and he may just be sorting us out, or in his cave. I know, he will come back if you are firm. I am way too nice.
I have never emailed him and texted alot. I read dating books and took their advice. But here is a question I have about that...how do you ever get to the point when it's ok to do that? You can't play cat and mouse forever, my son's gf calls him alot and he seems to like it. And referring to your arguements we have never argued so I could never put that into practice...what do you think about men are from mars women are from venus when a man goes into a cave to sort things out...how do I know he is not doing that? You see he told me he has fear of my breaking up with him again like I did before. I am going to do the 5 minute on the phone with him thing, if he calls. Just to play it cool. I have never had this before with him, just that one other time. I never called him too much, it's not my style . I don't think he will call though. I was never too available, so I don't get why he would think I was always there. If you are seeing someone if you are not available how do you work out your problems...you have to work at it. If I am cool to him he'll pick up on that and never call again and I would lose him, and he may just be sorting us out, or in his cave. I know, he will come back if you are firm. I am way too nice.
LMFAO@you are not marrying this guy...so stop worryinmg about leaving your elderly dad! the man won't even pick up a phone to call you and you are mentioning marriage? OMG!
dayum LK, you just go hard d:
dayum LK, you just go hard d:
If I am cool to him he'll pick up on that and never call again and I would lose him, and he may just be sorting us out, or in his cave. I know, he will come back if you are firm. I am way too nice.
sorry but that fear, the fear of losing a man is sooooo unattractive in so many ways and is going to make you LOSE anyway, your already losing, he's back and forth and that's not a relationship...it doesn't take weeks to come to a conclusion/decision about another human being, you are in denial, your behavior screams low self esteem and doormat and he will never insinuate otherwise, he will just use it as he's been using and staying away and coming back as he pleases
sorry but that fear, the fear of losing a man is sooooo unattractive in so many ways and is going to make you LOSE anyway, your already losing, he's back and forth and that's not a relationship...it doesn't take weeks to come to a conclusion/decision about another human being, you are in denial, your behavior screams low self esteem and doormat and he will never insinuate otherwise, he will just use it as he's been using and staying away and coming back as he pleases
You should learn how to read. I said she ended the relationship with him. She is not maintaining it.
I never thought we were going to marry, all I wanted to know was why would someone say those kind of things? To have s*x? We were already doing that. I need answers and that has nothing to do with self esteem. If you mean people would read books pertaining to the male/female relationship maybe you wouldn't come across like know it alls who really don't know anything.
And yes all signs do show common traits. The man did call regularly while we were maintaining a normal relationship. Except when he went thru some depression after the career letdown. What is happening is new. No I am not justifying poor behaviour, I think people act in certain ways for reasons...yes it's wrong but there are always reasons behind it...don't be so quick to judge without knowing all the details. You know nothing about what went on between us. It may be that it's over and I am just going thru a breakup and looking for the reasons why..
THINK BEFORE YOU POST
I never thought we were going to marry, all I wanted to know was why would someone say those kind of things? To have s*x? We were already doing that. I need answers and that has nothing to do with self esteem. If you mean people would read books pertaining to the male/female relationship maybe you wouldn't come across like know it alls who really don't know anything.
And yes all signs do show common traits. The man did call regularly while we were maintaining a normal relationship. Except when he went thru some depression after the career letdown. What is happening is new. No I am not justifying poor behaviour, I think people act in certain ways for reasons...yes it's wrong but there are always reasons behind it...don't be so quick to judge without knowing all the details. You know nothing about what went on between us. It may be that it's over and I am just going thru a breakup and looking for the reasons why..
THINK BEFORE YOU POST
Ummm, this is a publich form. I'm sorry, you get what you get, you just have to filter through whats needed. Sometimes the negative comments are some of the better ones.
Keep that in mind
Keep that in mind
One more comment....
There is a book, "Dating without drama"...(God forbid we should read a book for perspective)
The woman's dating question was, "My guy was very attentive for a while...now all of sudden he has withdrawn and is NOT CALLING me w/o any explaination...what is going on? (she did not mention a length of time)
The dating experts answer was as follows...
When men feel something is too strong and they don't know how to deal with it or they need space to sort it out they will do this.
Just give him the space he needs, until he sorts it out and he will with space and time. It may be weeks or a few months...I guarantee he will come around after he sorts it out.
I think that is excellent advice and don't we as women sometimes need space to sort things out?
Read ladies read...it's amazing how you can get a different spin on your negative attitudes. And "How to catch him and keep him" is good too. The author talks about how men appreciate your ability to think outside the typical female psycho reaction and think like them. Just as we want them to see our side sometimes.
Havent't you ever seen the guy in the bar telling the bartender, "My wife doesn't understand me" They want to be understood. Not b**tched at. Get real ladies.
There is a book, "Dating without drama"...(God forbid we should read a book for perspective)
The woman's dating question was, "My guy was very attentive for a while...now all of sudden he has withdrawn and is NOT CALLING me w/o any explaination...what is going on? (she did not mention a length of time)
The dating experts answer was as follows...
When men feel something is too strong and they don't know how to deal with it or they need space to sort it out they will do this.
Just give him the space he needs, until he sorts it out and he will with space and time. It may be weeks or a few months...I guarantee he will come around after he sorts it out.
I think that is excellent advice and don't we as women sometimes need space to sort things out?
Read ladies read...it's amazing how you can get a different spin on your negative attitudes. And "How to catch him and keep him" is good too. The author talks about how men appreciate your ability to think outside the typical female psycho reaction and think like them. Just as we want them to see our side sometimes.
Havent't you ever seen the guy in the bar telling the bartender, "My wife doesn't understand me" They want to be understood. Not b**tched at. Get real ladies.
Gennamoon
You are one smart lady....love you!!!!
Positive attitude....great
You are one smart lady....love you!!!!
Positive attitude....great
FYI, you've given some really great advice to people that has been really helpful
Well thank you gennamoon ^_^.
Well thank you gennamoon ^_^.
this is how i post. sometimes posters need massive wake up calls. i consider this one of those times. anyone this mired in dating books and astrology as a dictating factor in interpreting a relationship...
needs a frigid bucket of water dropped on their head. i am sure someone will be along shortkly to post something nice and snuggly. the excuse makers are never in short supply.
Hey, you tell the truth, just not with alot of sugar on top
It's okay because this is how you post, its how you express and thats totally fine
needs a frigid bucket of water dropped on their head. i am sure someone will be along shortkly to post something nice and snuggly. the excuse makers are never in short supply.
Hey, you tell the truth, just not with alot of sugar on top
It's okay because this is how you post, its how you express and thats totally fine
the key you have to realize is...is should not be about HIM deciding to end it with you....when you are a confident woman (which btw every damn one of those datign books you read says YOU SHOULD BE....maybe you skipped those parts) you walk away from a man who treats you this way...YOU decide to set boundaries...you only tolerate positive, respectful b ehavior.
OH YEAH!!!! Maybe thats why I'm single at the moment. ahahaha, I refuse to put up with bullshit.
OH YEAH!!!! Maybe thats why I'm single at the moment. ahahaha, I refuse to put up with bullshit.
I don't have time to go back and read every post you have ever made on these boards, but like I said I'm amazed at how different the tone of the posts have been...wow...
Leokitten, is very nice She is just blunt and sometimes thats needed. All the "Aww poor baby" stuff isn't what people need really when it comes to bad relationships. Why? Because the woman or man has to understand that in order to get out of a bad relationship, they have to first ... get out of the bad relationship.
Leokitten, is very nice
She is just blunt and sometimes thats needed. All the "Aww poor baby" stuff isn't what people need really when it comes to bad relationships. Why? Because the woman or man has to understand that in order to get out of a bad relationship, they have to first ... get out of the bad relationship.Just because you care to try to make something work does not mean you have no self respect and you are a doormat.You give people a chance 2x 3x and if you see it doesn't work you then leave. You do not even know what was in my email to him. I stood my ground in the email and set boundaries.
And wanting closure has nothing to do with self esteem, walking away is fine, but clearing your head with the other person is essential to your mental needs. How can you move on to a good relationship unless you prepare menatally by getting the old cobwebs out first. You have go to get the built up resentment out first, before moving on. Any therapist would tell you that.
And by the way men are not wired to communicate like we are.
Like I said I am not piecing together anything, just looking for why's and I see nothing wrong with that.
so leokitten since you are so wise....do I call this person and formally end to clear my head or just let it go and ignore.
And yes we did talk about marriage...and I was not worrying about my Dad, but I have a life here and it was an isssue between us. Did you ever think maybe he realizes the distance thing is too tough and is avoiding hurting me cause he doesn't know what to say? I avoided a breakup once because I didn't know the right words to say...Oh maybe I should have been like you and just been rude.
Oh that's right, it's my cappy that's rude...of course not you with your bully behaviour.
And I was not clingy and I do have my own life.
And in spite of what you say men disappear/withdraw at times....google it. It happens all the time...I am not making excuses, just thinking it thru.
You know it is possible you are wrong, you were mistaken about my daughter cause you didn't even read the post correctly.
Oh I know, I know he didn't call for weeks. I get it. I have no self respect...bullsh*t
It as simple as this...I was giving it time and now the time is up.
And wanting closure has nothing to do with self esteem, walking away is fine, but clearing your head with the other person is essential to your mental needs. How can you move on to a good relationship unless you prepare menatally by getting the old cobwebs out first. You have go to get the built up resentment out first, before moving on. Any therapist would tell you that.
And by the way men are not wired to communicate like we are.
Like I said I am not piecing together anything, just looking for why's and I see nothing wrong with that.
so leokitten since you are so wise....do I call this person and formally end to clear my head or just let it go and ignore.
And yes we did talk about marriage...and I was not worrying about my Dad, but I have a life here and it was an isssue between us. Did you ever think maybe he realizes the distance thing is too tough and is avoiding hurting me cause he doesn't know what to say? I avoided a breakup once because I didn't know the right words to say...Oh maybe I should have been like you and just been rude.
Oh that's right, it's my cappy that's rude...of course not you with your bully behaviour.
And I was not clingy and I do have my own life.
And in spite of what you say men disappear/withdraw at times....google it. It happens all the time...I am not making excuses, just thinking it thru.
You know it is possible you are wrong, you were mistaken about my daughter cause you didn't even read the post correctly.
Oh I know, I know he didn't call for weeks. I get it. I have no self respect...bullsh*t
It as simple as this...I was giving it time and now the time is up.
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In the interest of fairness I would like to point out that there has also been much debate about whether John McCain's b
@SoftCookie
Joined: Jun 01, 2006 · Topics: 20 · Posts: 790
What's you alls zodiac sign? The worst fight I got into was with my younger virgo brother lol. I was 21 at the time a
@Gangstalicious1982
Joined: Feb 10, 2008 · Topics: 56 · Posts: 757
Do you agree or disagree? A man with a foggy clouds over him. He is sensitive and easily hurt and always feels lonely
@ariesgirl402
Joined: Jan 14, 2008 · Topics: 77 · Posts: 1233
Hi, I an aqua guy who dated a Taurus woman. for her this is not like a real relationship, as she was in a very long real
@aquaboy
Joined: Nov 08, 2008 · Topics: 1 · Posts: 8
I got a physic reading in 2005 from a woman and she didn't charge me. She said I would have a baby in 3 years and g
@Mystic Dreamer
Joined: Mar 11, 2008 · Topics: 41 · Posts: 967
Hello fellow fish friends.....I have a question for you....have you been in a state of flux where you make a decision an
@Pisces_Dream
Joined: Apr 08, 2008 · Topics: 110 · Posts: 1685
SoftCookie 2020!!! I should at least be able to get a VP nomination out of that placement, just gotta tidy up the skele
@SoftCookie
Joined: Jun 01, 2006 · Topics: 20 · Posts: 790
YEP ITS SCORPIO SEASONS. I GOT A LOT GOING ON, WILL BE PUBLISHED SOON , SCHOOL ETC. SO I FEEL A LITTLE WIERD. WHAT ABOUT
@flygyrllchi
Joined: Aug 08, 2006 · Topics: 85 · Posts: 761