Not sure how I feel about this one..

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I must admit, my previous dating experiences with the male Capricorn haven't really been great. Nothing traumatic, just always something they did early on during the dating that turned me off(I'm very intuitive when it comes to meeting people and so far when I don't get a good vibe about someone I usually turned out to be correct). I'm a Virgo with leo moon Scorpio rising and was always told that Capricorn would be a good match for me but hey..
About last week, I got an email from an online dating site that I'm currently on and it was from another Cap. He has a really nice profile and I liked what he wrote about himself so I emailed him back. We've been since emailing back and forth from that website and I know that he's currently on business trip in a neighbouring country therefore more less in the same time zone and he really wants to meet up with me in person when he gets back but we've not finalised anything yet.

The thing is, I've began to notice the emails that I received from him were always sent during early hours of the morning. At first I didn't think much of it but tonight I got home really late from a party and decided to check my mails from that website. Since it's 2am on a work night I didn't think he'd be still online but there he was, anyway I didn't talk to him just read my emails then logged off. See now I'm getting that not so good vibe again and I really hope I'm wrong. What is he doing every night chatting on that dating site into early hours of the morning? Is it because he didn't think that I would be online at that hour? Sure, I myself log onto that site from time to time to check mails but I'm not sure that I want to go on dates with someone who spends that much time on it. I'm natually very cautious but am I being paranoid this time?
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Sadly this type of behavior seems to be going around quite a lot in the HK dating environment. Not everyone but there're so many young asian girls here willing to do anything to be with an expat no matter how unattractive he is or even twice her age just as long as he has money.. So now some of the guys here(since it's so easy to pick up woman with little or no effort) have forgotten their manners when it comes to dealing with a proper lady. I'm not saying it is the case with this Cap as I don't want to jump into any conclusions about him yet but bad manners is a real big turn off for me. As a Virgo I like the subtle approach and that is why I did like him better than some others that approached me from that site and I'm surprised that he suddently pulled this disappearing act..
I'll see what he has to say when he does decide to get in touch again but in the meantime I've got a date with someone else on Saturday! Can't wait around can we ladies..😉
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Sadly this type of behavior seems to be going around quite a lot in the HK dating environment. Not everyone but there're so many young asian girls here willing to do anything to be with an expat no matter how unattractive he is or even twice her age just as long as he has money.. So now some of the guys here(since it's so easy to pick up woman with little or no effort) have forgotten their manners when it comes to dealing with a proper lady.

That's so annoying, isn't it? There are women who are easy, but that makes it difficult for women who are not because we have to deal with their left-overs ... which are spoiled men who act like their doing you a favor by merely saying hi to you and then the men get offended when you don't drop to their feet over their words.

Yes, I know that all too well -- its no fun being called uppity just because you have 'standards'.
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"Taking into context the socio economic effects of a country that is emerging/ even developing countries that have expatriates or businessmen I think it is not suffficient to state that the women are easy because that doesn't really recognise the underlying cause of the behaviour. "

I agree with you to a certain extent however it's not really the case here in HK. I can understand the circumstances in some really poor countries where the girls are not respected socially, have no educational background or any specially skills in order to support themselves, those girls struggle with daily essentials form one day to the next therefore can see no way out but to look for a man as the means to have a better life. Here in HK however, the girls I was talking about are usually well educated and perfectly capable of supporting themselves financially so this behavior as it seems stems from laziness. Hong Kong is a highly materialistic place but like many other big cities things are expensive too. I suppose for those girls in order to maintain their steady supply of LV handbags without much effort then a rich man is the way to go..
It's very common here if a girl mentions that she is seeing someone, the first question that her friends ask would be 'what does he do?' Followed by 'how much he earn?' I've even had people who I barely know asking me how much I earn on 2 seperate occations, don't know what amazed me more the question or the way they asked it. Despite all these, I do love living here though for it's such a fantastic place in soo many other ways😛

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Posted by cappysweetie
Sadly this type of behavior seems to be going around quite a lot in the HK dating environment. Not everyone but there're so many young asian girls here willing to do anything to be with an expat no matter how unattractive he is or even twice her age just as long as he has money.. So now some of the guys here(since it's so easy to pick up woman with little or no effort) have forgotten their manners when it comes to dealing with a proper lady.

That's so annoying, isn't it? There are women who are easy, but that makes it difficult for women who are not because we have to deal with their left-overs ... which are spoiled men who act like their doing you a favor by merely saying hi to you and then the men get offended when you don't drop to their feet over their words.

Yes, I know that all too well -- its no fun being called uppity just because you have 'standards'.



Taking into context the socio economic effects of a country that is emerging/ even developing countries that have expatriates or businessmen I think it is not suffficient to state that the women are easy because that doesn't really recognise the underlying cause of the behaviour.

Nonetheless I do realise it is a struggle for women who are ''easy'' to make it harder on other women who have certain criteria they want in a man. Yet, this will always continue because for the most part I think women are usually a divided people and will always be taken advantage of for this reason
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Well, in that case, that can apply to anywhere around the world, not just developing countries and such. I live here in the states, and what you just stated above applies here as well. However, the term "easy" as it refers to woman who would do such things.

Its not personal, its just the way it is. Regardless to why you are doing something, it is what it is.
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So Aqualeo, what you are saying is that as a people (irrespective of race, colour, class or creed), we have lost our values of self, relationships and families? Or is it that these have all changed with time? Based on your reasoning above, people of low economic/social standing sees relationship only for what they can gain economically, while those of the higher rank sees relationships for the social gains they can acquire. Don't people want companionship, family, belonging etc anymore? Are we becoming that cold and uncaring as a people? Damn! its really sad.



You make a good point, I like this.

A capricorn view of things nonetheless ^_^.
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Ok when I said "it's not really the case here" I meant those highly disadvantaged women you were talking about weren't really the kind of girls I was relating to. I wasn't talking about those woman who work in the sexual services business either since they exist in every corner of the world and man knows it's just paid sex. This 'arm candy' situation is so commonly the case here in HK and the 'real relationships' where people actually love each other almost viewed as unrealistic. I can see how all of this can easily gone to a man's head and what a ego boost that must be, especially a man who has never had much of success with woman in his own country.
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Those girls has no moral and they'll go after you even if you're married or in a relationship and it's not just the case in HK. I was in Shanghai few years ago with my now ex-husband and we went to this night club, he is english and it doesn't help that he's very tall and good looking too. I never forget how all these girls were batting their eyelashes and flirting outrageously with him even with me standing right next to him and him wearing a wedding ring. It was quite a scene.
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Those girls has no moral and they'll go after you even if you're married or in a relationship and it's not just the case in HK. I was in Shanghai few years ago with my now ex-husband and we went to this night club, he is english and it doesn't help that he's very tall and good looking too. I never forget how all these girls were batting their eyelashes and flirting outrageously with him even with me standing right next to him and him wearing a wedding ring. It was quite a scene.



I know what you meant, thats why I called them 'easy'. Thats the term used here where I've grown up. Especially when it involves sport teams. Omg, you should see the girls around here that would love to be part of an NBA, NFL, or NHL guy's life and would stop at anything to have children for them and so and so forth. Its a sight to see really.
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I have to be honest that the if I decide to quit my current that would be mainly due to the fact that he is white. I have been struggling for the longest time about this. I love him but I'm not sure that's enough. He knows him being white goes against him 😢. Poor baby.




Oh no, thats sad 😢 😢

Him being a white guy is a social issue right?
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Posted by Aqualeo
Yes this can happen anywhere, but it is more pronounced in emerging/''developing'' countries.

This is because whereas most western/''developed'' countries do not necessarily have a centralized city where people must migrate to so as to get a steady income, that is, most of the cities can adequately rely on their own systems/resources an emerging/''developing country will normally have a rural to urban migration to a major capital city so that people can get a ''good'' job.

It happens in Mexico, Brazil, subsaharan Africa, eastern Europe, countries that have been war torn and most parts of Asia.

Cappysweetie, you say what it is and call these women easy, in these situations I beg to differ. In my opinion I think that labels generally don't define a situation and if anything can be used as a tool to exacerabate it. I want to understand why and if our different approaches are what cause you to determine that I am taking it personal then so be it.
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Here's the latest, I just received a text out of the blue from this Cap asking what time we meeting today(Saturday).
I replied with "Hi, I hope you had a good trip. Sorry I wasn't sure whether you could still make it this afternoon so I made other plans. Are you busy next week?"
Him: No problem." -- sounded like he was pissed that I cancelled on him, but I never had any confirmations from him in the first place!
Me: So how about next Saturday?" No reply..
Is this typical Cap behavior? What's up with this guy?




No reply yet? Maybe he got held up doing something. I gt complaints all the time from people that I take forever to reply within a day.
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"I sometimes find it too funny that many would think asian women like whites like it's a given. No. it is not in my circle. Many truly beautiful ones from higher class families (I don't know how to say it differently so please don't take offense) would not date anyone except one of their own."

I hear you TS and being an asian myself(although not born in HK) in fact our situation is not that different. Like you I don't just date only the expats although it's only been a year since I moved here and in my work I'm usually surrounded by people of different nationalities and I'm still finding it hard sometimes to get to know and mix with the locals. I don't mean at all that all asian girls here act this way it's just really sad for me to see that so many of them do. I can totally relate to you about your family's influence when it comes to who you date as I know my dad'll hit the roof if I ever get involved with a westerner again. You see it doesn't help in my case that I was already married to an English once who was the year above me in the same academy when I was studying in London, but that ended in divorce even though it lasted 7 years.. My dad's still not over it and has put so much presure on me with the constant lecturing on who I should date.. But at the same time I've lived in UK for 11 years and deep down he knows that I'm stuburn and ultimately I'll do what makes me happy and not be influenced by anyone. I think your family will eventually come round because they love you and you shouldn't give up on something real if you truely love him.
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"I sometimes find it too funny that many would think asian women like whites like it's a given. No. it is not in my circle. Many truly beautiful ones from higher class families (I don't know how to say it differently so please don't take offense) would not date anyone except one of their own."

I hear you TS and being an asian myself(although not born in HK) in fact our situation is not that different. Like you I don't just date only the expats although it's only been a year since I moved here and in my work I'm usually surrounded by people of different nationalities and I'm still finding it hard sometimes to get to know and mix with the locals. I don't mean at all that all asian girls here act this way it's just really sad for me to see that so many of them do. I can totally relate to you about your family's influence when it comes to who you date as I know my dad'll hit the roof if I ever get involved with a westerner again. You see it doesn't help in my case that I was already married to an English once who was the year above me in the same academy when I was studying in London, but that ended in divorce even though it lasted 7 years.. My dad's still not over it and has put so much presure on me with the constant lecturing on who I should date.. But at the same time I've lived in UK for 11 years and deep down he knows that I'm stuburn and ultimately I'll do what makes me happy and not be influenced by anyone. I think your family will eventually come round because they love you and you shouldn't give up on something real if you truely love him.
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Hi Cappysweetie🙂 Yes he did reply and hopefully I'll get to meet him in person next weekend. It's funny though how his texts are all so serious and matter of facts..matching very nicely with his poker face profile picture lol




Ahh Ha! See, you told you ^_^.

I know how we caps can be, well get caught up in one or two things at a time ... then forget everything else around us.