Pisces F arguing with Capricorn M

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I had this respect-love-hate issue I had been thinking about bringing up, and every time I start, he would argue back, because whenever I argue, I tend to ruin things for myself. Simply by talking "all over the place". I talk about one thing, then another thing, and that gets on his nerves! It gets on mine too, but its hard for me to sort it out sometimes, my feelings are that complicated. So I just throw it out there. This time I went through what I wanted to say and when I wanted to say it.. And then I put it out there. Yes, LMAO, I got prepared.. And my sweet goat let me argue with him with all force, he tried a few times to argue back, but I put my foot down, and I got my point across.

Maybe he saw that I needed to be heard?? That a submissive pisces can be a strong one too?? Maybe it turned him on— LOL!

Either way, he became silent when he noticed my force through the arguement. And I actually think I had a good POV, and thats why he gave up and listened and "agreed". Now wr have to remember that goats carry their pride like a shield. If he is wrong, hes not going to tell me, but accept and agree with it silently.. Or?

Or have I just misunderstood the whole thing?? This is what Im thinking... Anyone who see a possibility in this??
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I had this respect-love-hate issue I had been thinking about bringing up, and every time I start, he would argue back, because whenever I argue, I tend to ruin things for myself. Simply by talking "all over the place". I talk about one thing, then another thing, and that gets on his nerves! It gets on mine too, but its hard for me to sort it out sometimes, my feelings are that complicated. So I just throw it out there. This time I went through what I wanted to say and when I wanted to say it.. And then I put it out there. Yes, LMAO, I got prepared.. And my sweet goat let me argue with him with all force, he tried a few times to argue back, but I put my foot down, and I got my point across.

Maybe he saw that I needed to be heard?? That a submissive pisces can be a strong one too?? Maybe it turned him on— LOL!

Either way, he became silent when he noticed my force through the arguement. And I actually think I had a good POV, and thats why he gave up and listened and "agreed". Now wr have to remember that goats carry their pride like a shield. If he is wrong, hes not going to tell me, but accept and agree with it silently.. Or?

Or have I just misunderstood the whole thing?? This is what Im thinking... Anyone who see a possibility in this??


Did you bring up this same topic multiple times?
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I brought it up the 1st time yesterday, but that was a miss, I wasnt sure of my own feelings, and thats messed up getting through him with my POV. Then I tried again, more prepared..I knew what I felt and how to come across, and it went well. You think hes reflecting now??
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Well, not really.

I was hoping that his silence would be a sign of him reflecting and analyzing my POV. So I didnt demand an answer or a response right away. I just let him be and left the place, not as a goodbye, but as giving him space and time to be alone and think over things. You think he would have done that? Thought things through?

Thats is all I need from him, to think and understand my POV.

I respect his POV, but sometimes I dont feel he respects mine. Thats actually one of the issues I brought up today. Just because he takes the lead, doesnt mean he can just run over my POVs or ignore my feelings because he thinks they are "all over the place".

I dont need him to say anything, I value actions. And as long as he understands, then I am a happy gold fish🙂
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yes i see a possibility that he agreed silently. he may not think it's necessary to say it out loud "yes you are right and i was wrong" lol

you actually prepared your points before the argument ? lol that's kinda cute. i would let you win even if i knew you prepared just for the effort LOL



LMAO!! Your comment made me laugh, I just realized how much effort I have had to put into this arguement!
And Yes, I did my homework before I presented it out to my master!

Are you a capricorn??
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i think it's a shortcoming of cap traits. we think we rule common sense and logic. we don't like to waste time so we tend to be concise and to-the-point. "all over the place" way of communication may get on our nerves. i am not competitive in personal relationship but i once a while would still ask "okay. can you summarize the story into 3 key points babe? lol



Hehe. Asking me to summerize would be the same as telling you my whole POV all over again. Everything Im saying is supposed to be equally important, so how am I supposed to summerize.. Hehe. Thats were I messed it up the first time.

I have trouble organizing my thoughts and feelings before I throw it out. And I guess I just expect him to sort them out for me. But I must say, Caps generally are clever making sense of something complicated as a pisceans feelings/thoughts. And my Cap does that sometimes. He just organize and helps me see the from an outer POV when I throw them his way, and thats what I love with an earthy sign instead of a water sign. It stops there, and end of discussion. Not heavy drama, no watery feelings.. This is it.. Lets deal with it. I get pissed thats he just cuts it off like that, but I know thats the right way for me to deal with it.
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I can forget getting the "Yes you are right, I was wrong" from him. I have never experienced that in all these years. The best I have gotten is: "What do you want me to do?". LOL.

But after a heavy conversation, what would caps do? I usually go to my room, lay in bed and sleep on it, because it takes so much of my energy. What would a cap do? Would you think about it...or continue doing whatever you were doing when the arguement started??
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But after a heavy conversation, what would caps do? I usually go to my room, lay in bed and sleep on it, because it takes so much of my energy. What would a cap do? Would you think about it...or continue doing whatever you were doing when the arguement started??



i personally don't think it's healthy when a relationship is full of argument or heavy conversation. that usually means you two have serious conflicts in value and temperament and one or both of you are intolerant of each other's differences. if it's true love, who's right and who's wrong simply DO NOT MATTER.

i'm very sensitive to conflicts and yes like you they would take a lot out of me so i do not engage unless necessary. i don't wear my armor at home. i do find some caps annoyingly argumentative like some virgos.

i think you need to let him know that all these heavy conservations took so much of your energy and exhausted you. this is not nurturing the love between you. serious, look at the big picture (which a mature cap should be able to do), how unwise it is to damage a loving relationship just because he or you need the other to "say" or "admit" that the other agree or see their point of view? too much ego and pride in a relationship is not a good thing.

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I think that arguements and discussions will always be a part of a relationship, because when to individuals live and share their lives together in a intimate setting, there will be plenty of factors involved. Even if one takes the lead, and the other goes into a more submissive role, does not really matter, both are equal human beings and both value the same, all it comes down to is if the other one is okay or not always getting it his/her way.
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So I (being a submissive Pisces Female)



lolololol.



Sounds like music to my ears.



Yup, I know. But you have admitted she does call the shots..just in a womanly manner. No Pisces is truly submissive to the bone 🙂.
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I agree on that no pisces is truly submissive to the bone!! HEHE! But hey.. Those we "encounter" does not have to know.. Yeah? Especially those who LOVE to take the lead.. Why not just give them thr plesure??
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I havent spoken to my Cap M after our argument. I havent tried contacting him, neither has he. I've let him be alone, undisturbed. I know Capricorns need their "time" to reflect things so they can figure out what the next step is. I dont need him to say or admit anything, I want to see what he stands for through action. And hopefully, that will be what hes weighing pros and cons for now!

I agree with "champranger" saying that it depends on how important the issue are for a Cap to decide whether they should get involved in a discussion/arguement. In this case, I know that the issue is very important to me and my Cap M, since its about respect. Although I am okay with letting him have his will very often, he should know that I will put my foot down if hes taking it too far. He knows that, but hey, when you give kid candy, they will only want more until someone looks into their eyes and say STOP, enough for now.
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I love my Cap M very much and he loves my a lot too. We have known each other since the childhood, so know each other very well - too well sometimes! I am totally fine taking the more submissive role, because I can handle it, but I can also handle taking the lead, like a did with my ex Gemini M. I am sorry if this offends my Gemini friends in here, but this ex Gemini M pissed me off big time! He let me take the lead and made him self useless! Not submissive, but useless! It wasnt until Cap M came into my life that he showed me how much more a man in general can be for a woman. And I went from being the leader to taking a more submissive role, not because the force of my goat, but simply because I trust and respect the choices my Cap M makes for us. And it makes it comfortable for me to let him take the choices, and he likes to know that I respect him and have complete faith in him. And if it doesnt turn out as he expected, he knows I am loyal to him, and that I would always stick with him through hot and cold. I have proved it to him many times, and I think its his time to prove it to me.. So lets see what he decides to do...
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When I say "let him take the choices", I ment " let him have the last say". I let him because of his life experiences and everything he knows is on a whole another level than what I have experienced and got to know this far in life. He knows so much, so I know hes POVs are well considered. But still, Im stubborn too, not too much, but enough to tell him "NO, I want it this way". He would try convincing me, and after a few back and forth.. After giving him the feeling hes fought for it, I will let him get his will🙂 Awwwww, talking about my Cap M makes me miss him sooo badly!!
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If I go silent in an argument, that's because if I tell you what I'm thinking at the moment, it will be cold, brutal and will crush your feelings permanently.

Sometimes I will go silent because I'm tired of the argument and don't want to hear your drama and emotional BS any more.

Let him cool off then talk to him in a rational, logical way without emotion. If you started the argument, you'll probably have to take that first step. Cap pride ya know.

And if he thinks he was wrong, caps are usually pretty good about apologizing (unless we know we can get away without one).