Sigh. Cappie drama. Looking for insight.

This topic was created in the Capricorn forum by mimijiminy on Saturday, April 9, 2016 and has 19 replies.
hey. looking for insights / comments from cappies and those who know them. granted, this is more of a man / woman thing than anything else.
regarding the below, i have made my decision (and apparently he has, too) and i am standing by it until something changes. that said, i am human and still care, perplexed, trying to understand the psyche. though i have a few of my own theories about what is happening, what do you guys think? background: he's married, i'm married. both 40. no children, though he and his wife are trying to adopt after he waited 16 years to be OK with the idea (they've been together for 18, my husband and I for 9.) I am in the process of a divorce not just because i had an affair, but b/c both me and my husband deserve better and our marriage is over. Cap and i work together, which is how we met. months of flirting and both of us dancing around the obvious led to a physical relationship which took both of us by surprise for many reasons not the least of which that that we fell in love. there was never any of what's called "future faking" or either of us speaking ill of our other partners. initially, neither one of us could or was willing to make a definitive decision and the understanding was that we would keep on until one of us was or did. he made a move first, ended things on impulse because he felt so guilty. that lasted 2 days after which he was back, and i gladly say yes. went on for another 2 months and, when i was out of the country, he had a serious health issue and ended up in ICU (wife was not there. since they moved to where i am a year ago, she has been gone for most of the time.) that was the turning point for me. his illness made me realize a whole bunch of things 1 i wanted to be with him and no one else and 2 my marriage was over, for many other reasons. at that time, he too, made his decision because they got word that the 2 children to be adopted were 'ready' and they flew over to an African country to meet them. so of course, he broke it off. i respected it, accepted it and tried to move on as best i could but he didn't. he kept trying to reach out, to regain emotionally intimacy, and it nearly killed me but i resisted. i politely asked that he keep it professional, please respect my feelings and keep way from me. he tried to do that for about two months, after which it started again and this time i fell for it. we ended up being intimate while we were both on a weeklong work trip. and of course, you guessed it, 2 days later he said he was embarrassed, that he had made a decision to be with wife/family, he felt like a fool, etc. so that was the last straw for me. this flipflopping made me lose respect, in a way tamed my feelings. but again you guessed it, he continues. trying to get close, using work things as an excuse to write / email / call, any excuse, he uses it. i continue to resist, but i am not immune. thoughts? part of me thinks he's really conflicted. part of me thinks he's a cake-eater. thank yo
Dont respond to him in any way! Be immune.

He adopted children with his wife..he has no shame. Dont fall into his trap..he's playing with you and what an irresponsible man he is. ðŸ˜

Dont engage with him at all...he has family. Its not nice.
One cannot be conflicted in serious issues like this.. Dont believe his words.
sunkisses ... thank you. i am a cancer / leo cusp and apparently have cap a lot in my chart, hence the incredible pull. the flirting started in earnest in may of last year 2015. got physical in july and lasted until the end of november, which is when he met the children. they don't have them yet. he says it may be a very long time. (my opinion, if it ever happens. his own relationship, in my humble opinion, isn't all that. like i mentioned, they moved here a year ago and she has not been here for about 10 of those months.)

Posted by RumiL
Dont respond to him in any way! Be immune.

He adopted children with his wife..he has no shame. Dont fall into his trap..he's playing with you and what an irresponsible man he is. ðŸ˜

Dont engage with him at all...he has family. Its not nice.


thank you and i understand. they have not yet adopted. the children haven't arrived and from i understand, may be quite a while. thanks again.
Posted by sunkisses26
Ok i'm sorry your hurting and I know when your in love it all seems like some grand love story but ....he seems like he wants to have his cake and eat it too...and thats bullshit anytime you try to put your foot down and tell him to make a choice he always (from your perspective) makes the wrong one...I heard it take cappies for ever to make up there mind when in a simple relationship let alone when there are extra people involved i.e wives and husband and kids (when things are complex)...this a family sign and if he is now responsible for children he won't take that responsibility lightly....so I have a couple of questions what is your sign? how many years have you guys been doing this?


thank you. just responded without quoting you. sorry for the confusion!
Posted by mimijiminy
Posted by RumiL
Dont respond to him in any way! Be immune.

He adopted children with his wife..he has no shame. Dont fall into his trap..he's playing with you and what an irresponsible man he is. ðŸ˜

Dont engage with him at all...he has family. Its not nice.


thank you and i understand. they have not yet adopted. the children haven't arrived and from i understand, may be quite a while. thanks again.
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You're welcome.. It will be very emotionally taxing for you to engage with a married man like this.. Dont give in to his words/anything. Such things never go well...only invite lots of problems and destroy your peace.. I hope he stops this and doesn't complicate it for you...

Edit - ...doesnt complicate it for you, his wife and himself!
Posted by RumiL
Posted by mimijiminy
Posted by RumiL
Dont respond to him in any way! Be immune.

He adopted children with his wife..he has no shame. Dont fall into his trap..he's playing with you and what an irresponsible man he is. ðŸ˜

Dont engage with him at all...he has family. Its not nice.


thank you and i understand. they have not yet adopted. the children haven't arrived and from i understand, may be quite a while. thanks again.


You're welcome.. It will be very emotionally taxing for you to engage with a married man like this.. Dont give in to his words/anything. Such things never go well...only invite lots of problems and destroy your peace.. I hope he stops this and doesn't complicate it for you...

Edit - ...doesnt complicate it for you, his wife and himself!
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what you said is how i am trying to get through this very difficult time. while i have hope, minimally, it's not the best thing for me or him or anyone involved at this stage. (hope for what, i don't know. i am a cancer, so of course i can be a hopeless romantic!) thanks again for your input.
Posted by Gobshite
This has got nothing to do with his star sign. In most cases, one of the married parties involved will always flip flop about taking their adulterous affair to the next stage.

Just another typical woman bitching about how things didn't turn out the way she wanted, while refusing to take a closer look at herself...


Thank you. While I am far from a typical woman, your opinion counts. And as for refusing to take a closer look, I mentioned I am in the process of a divorce. My husband is aware of everything. How much closer can I look?
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Posted by mimijiminy
Posted by Gobshite
This has got nothing to do with his star sign. In most cases, one of the married parties involved will always flip flop about taking their adulterous affair to the next stage.

Just another typical woman bitching about how things didn't turn out the way she wanted, while refusing to take a closer look at herself...


Thank you. While I am far from a typical woman, your opinion counts. And as for refusing to take a closer look, I mentioned I am in the process of a divorce. My husband is aware of everything. How much closer can I look?

*facepalm*
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Thank you. Noted.
He's not going to leave his wife of 18 years to be with a woman who cheated on her husband. Simple as that! Sorry.

Oh, he's looking to adopt kids with her, ya..definitely won't happen.
Posted by Greentea
He's not going to leave his wife of 18 years to be with a woman who cheated on her husband. Simple as that! Sorry.

Oh, he's looking to adopt kids with her, ya..definitely won't happen.


Thanks for taking the time to write, Greentea.
Hi, he won't leave his wife. This could go on forever... But you are in the process of a divorce, while he bailed? Does his wife know about you?

So many things wrong here, please take a step back and rethink your situation.
Posted by aquapiscescusp
Hi, he won't leave his wife. This could go on forever... But you are in the process of a divorce, while he bailed? Does his wife know about you?

So many things wrong here, please take a step back and rethink your situation.

Thank you. His wife doesn't know about me. My divorce isn't happening because I am going to be with him or any expectation from him, though.
Posted by sunkisses26
Posted by mimijiminy
sunkisses ... thank you. i am a cancer / leo cusp and apparently have cap a lot in my chart, hence the incredible pull. the flirting started in earnest in may of last year 2015. got physical in july and lasted until the end of november, which is when he met the children. they don't have them yet. he says it may be a very long time. (my opinion, if it ever happens. his own relationship, in my humble opinion, isn't all that. like i mentioned, they moved here a year ago and she has not been here for about 10 of those months.)




thank you for answering I think the deep attraction actually comes from your cancer (we are opposites and opposites usually attracts) and the extra cappie in your chart probably gives you a good understanding....the reason I asked how long this has been going on is simply this ...sometimes cappies can be logical and say stay with who ever they have been with longest...they think about how this would effect him financially if they were to divorce and even if you do leave there is no guarantee that he will stay with you after he has freed his self from his marriage..if his marriage is broken and cannot be repaired then he is being a coward ....its not fair to you...and its not fair to his wife (who for all we know she could be doing the same thing)...I say find someone else to date! you deserve to be loved by someone who loves you back beware of the push and pull with cappies I hear a lot of people say that right when they are ready to move the cap pulls them right back in again....
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thanks again. yes, he's good at the push / pull think but it's what I am trying to end. i think his marriage is broken and he's unhappy but it's no longer my problem ... his made his bed and can lay in it for as long as he wants. posting here has been good. getting different perspectives.
Posted by mimijiminy
Posted by aquapiscescusp
Hi, he won't leave his wife. This could go on forever... But you are in the process of a divorce, while he bailed? Does his wife know about you?

So many things wrong here, please take a step back and rethink your situation.

Thank you. His wife doesn't know about me. My divorce isn't happening because I am going to be with him or any expectation from him, though.
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Ok, but you both had agreed to leave your partners-- eventually-- to be together?
He's blowing smoke up your ass. He has no intention of ending things with his wife otherwise he wouldn't be trying to follow through with the adoption. I bet things at home are a lot better than what he's telling you.
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Posted by mimijiminy
Posted by aquapiscescusp
Hi, he won't leave his wife. This could go on forever... But you are in the process of a divorce, while he bailed? Does his wife know about you?

So many things wrong here, please take a step back and rethink your situation.

Thank you. His wife doesn't know about me. My divorce isn't happening because I am going to be with him or any expectation from him, though.



Ok, but you both had agreed to leave your partners-- eventually-- to be together?
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Thank you for your follow up. No, we had never agreed on anything so he never promised anything and failed to deliver. The only thing we had agreed on is that when either one of us made a decision one way or another (to stay with spouse, to leave spouse, to keep the other on as a 'lover' without any expectations, etc.) is that we would tell each other and keep on being honest. And in fact that's what happened at around month 5 of the affair _ we came to different decisions around the same time: me to be with him and he to remain with his wife since they got word of the adoption possibly coming through. Which is when he broke things off, and I just let him be and focused more on what was going on with my own life. Though what has happened / is happening is that he keeps trying to pull me back in, even though he was very clear that he had no interest in keeping a mistress. `Since the breakup, he has tried to get me to talk to him, had told me he has things to say and would really like to have a 'talk.' I haven't gone there. Is part of me curious, sure, but I am not putting myself through that. Doesn't matter either way, though.
Posted by truecap
He's blowing smoke up your ass. He has no intention of ending things with his wife otherwise he wouldn't be trying to follow through with the adoption. I bet things at home are a lot better than what he's telling you.


Thanks for your reply truecap. I would hope that at least for the childrens' sake it's not that bad, if the adoption ever happens. Thing is, he never told me anything bad about his wife, never spoke ill of her, nothing negative. In fact, any mention was always around the lines of 'she's a good person' which is as far as I went speaking about my husband because he is. Neither he nor I talked about our home lives except in passing. So no empty promises were ever made, there was never any 'oh baby, it's so bad at home you have no idea and you're the only one who makes me happy' type conversation. The impression I have gotten is from having seen them together, and from other bits and pieces. (We work together, so every so often there are work events, spouses dropping by the office, etc. _ we have a small , informal satellite office of a big company.) Regardless, yea, I agree that it's him blowing smoke to a certain extent. There's more to it as well, which time will reveal I suppose. Thanks again for writing back.

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