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I have been reading all about Cap men and their disappearing acts and their inconsistency....well I have faced something similar which I had posted about a little earlier on, on someone else's thread.

I didnt really face a disappearing act but strange behavior in the sense we stopped meeting much as much as we would meet in the first few months.

So I know this guy now for the last 4 months, well the first month started off at a great note, he was absolutely honest about his life, he comes with a lot of baggage, divorcee with a kid...one of the first few things that I liked about him was his honesty, such a gentleman he is in his approach, charming, intelligent, that made me a full blown Leo a bit intimidated. Anyhow loved his company, he was there all the time, coffee's dinners, movies et al... so much so even a trip to a holy place here...which was one of my firsts, a couple would generally go to some exotic place, but in our case we ended up there...

Things were awesome, until he started getting into his work, his travel, went and met his daughter and was cool and reciprocated to his behavior. Limited meetings, but we were in touch thru and thru... Well the sex was so intense, where I caught him staring at me, which me made me feel like there are things he wants to say but unable to...so I let it be...

So the limited meetings and calls went on until my bday, where he made the effort to actually take me out for lunch got a little gift, also came out in the evening for drinks with my friends and my family. After that I wud call him, and it became such a task to actually meet up, when I through a little bit of a fit, he would take me out to show that he cares and wants to be around.... and then wud go back to his shell, until recently when he went to meet his daughter again, things changed, little white lies, I caught him but never really confronted him with it, cause I felt it wasnt necessary as I didnt know whether we were exclusive or not to start asking him questions. (P.S we had gone out one evening and he had mentioned to me that he really likes and let's take a month to figure things out, this happened in the first month of seeing each other itself)

so the on and off behavior continued, until I got a bit ,and asked him as to what was going on, and I'd like some clarity ( I did this once before and he said he would and completely ignored the talk and I also let be thinking that he will come around ) but it did not happen and we fina
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so the on and off behavior continued, until I got a bit ,and asked him as to what was going on, and I'd like some clarity ( I did this once before and he said he would and completely ignored the talk and I also let be thinking that he will come around ) but it did not happen and we finally met a month ago, and I told him how I feel about the relationship, and that we need to know if we are in it or not, cause we are then we need to better our lives with each other's presence, rather than really trying hard to meet and you know do the usual that a couple would in the early stages of a relationship.... so while we were talking he said he really feels good around me and that I have been extremely understanding, and that he has been so involved with his work and his daughter which has got him off track.... and in the conversation I figured, he didnt really have space for me or a relationship... so I told him let's take a break and figure things out, and if we want to be with each other nothing will stop us... so we did, and he made contact after two weeks, telling how pretty I am, how intelligent I am, and all of that. then go quiet for 4 days, again say hello and would chat with me for about an hour, go missing for two days....until my brother decided to go for dinner to his restaurant...so we had a good time I was meeting him after almost 25 days,....it was sweet,he messaged me saying that he was happy to see me around and glad that I went, and during the conversation hinted that I should try coffee with him....we chatted and flirted until the wee hours of the morning...and he goes missing again, until I messaged him asking coffee...to which he said...sure this coming week.... that was last sunday... and he messages me today asking me how I was, cause I have been pretty fried at work, and not been too well..so he does show genuine care....

Now after you have read all of this, what do you think this is...I do feel a very strong connect with him....he is a mirror image of me when comes to character almost Karmic like I know this guy from before, cause of the way he just slipped into my life.... after reading your posts, apparently Caps have a tendency of typecasting you as friends...is that what he wants from me, cause when we had the talk both of us agreed that we arent friends and we are beyond that... I am confused now, should I wait it out for this guy, or just move on.... Please shower some insights Cappies 😢 😢
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You're screwed. Utterly screwed. Stop throwing fits for attention, you're a leo, its hard, but try. It'll make it so he'll begin to do it out of responsability for your feelings instead because he wants to. He retreats because he thinks you care more about you and your feelings then his. When was he last time you showed interest in his kid? Or arranging to go out the 3 of you together? Trust , this will give you points, it'll show that you're interested in making things easier for him, and thst you're not egotistical( which.... im sorry... you have been)
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oh no ok I missed some of it...so it his daughters bday, I sent her bday gifts and also planned on going for a holiday and told him what all we can do when she around...both the times he visited her I sent her stuff....yes you are right Leo's are utterly egoistical but I am not at all, one day he mentioned to me that he craves to eat home food, and I woke up early in the morning, and sent him food, before really going out....so where am I screwed really...I let go off my ego, Leo's are also know for their impatience...but I have been so patient.... so now what do you really think I screwed up!
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Lucriu... what else can I do... I didnt do it to impress him, I did genuinely, she stays in another city, he did mention to me that he would bring her down to meet me....and I always ask how she is doing...and that he should spend more time with her which he is unable to do...cause of his work... I told him that I'd like to meet her....what more would you like me to do...and if your advise helps me to get things back on track I would follow it...
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"and if we want to be with each other nothing will stop us" I fucken love that about you leos.... you want something you dont bullshit around. But um caps are different. He might see what you did as mixed signals, saying you want to be together and then suggesting a break, when all you really wante was for him to do what you do, give your all. Anyway you need to be patient, an stop the tantrums, and show stability and congruence. What you have to ask yourself is " Am I willing to change the way i feel and experience love in order to make him feel more comfortable and love me?"
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ok... so what do you think I am doing wrong....if you let me know I'll correct that cause I really love this guy and accept him the way he is....




Shock him. Call him up and tell him.

" I love you, im posting in an astrological thread because im willing to try random strangers advise because if it gives me a better shot at being with you I'll do it. And I know this make me seem crazy, but i love you the way you are an if this going to work you have to love me for the way I am. So tell me what we do from here."
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Keep in mind that being in a relationship is about playing the little games, doing whats expected, and not knowing what to do. Being in love is not the same, its being yourself and doing what you feel is right to you, its growing as a person, accepting yourself loving yourself and reflecting that on the person you love. The momment you feel like you have to supress your reall self to make the other person happy, its not love...
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If his analytical skills are anything like mine he'll see you're opening yourself up for totall and utter rejection, he'll see how deeply you feel and see that you dont want to play the game of push and pull, that you're only pulling. If he's evolved enough to treasure this and see it for what it is he'll be an idiot to reject you. All that caps want is someone strong enough to open themselves up fully to them, because it makes us feel that it is ok for us to open up to them. But... the fact that you asked if this would work in your favor advises that you yourself still see that a level of push is still required in your interaction with him. Youre not ready to fully expose yourself.
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Posted by leo80
Lucriu... what else can I do... I didnt do it to impress him, I did genuinely, she stays in another city, he did mention to me that he would bring her down to meet me....and I always ask how she is doing...and that he should spend more time with her which he is unable to do...cause of his work... I told him that I'd like to meet her....what more would you like me to do...and if your advise helps me to get things back on track I would follow it...



I hope you don't mind my two sense 🙂 I'm a Leo and my boyfriend is a Cap. I can only offer advice based on what I've done and how I've reacted to things. Oh, and I'm the single parent, not him.

Two of the bigger things I've done:

1. He was sick. I left work immediately and went to take care of him. I obviously can't so this every time but wanted him to know I'd be there.

2. There was a family emergency which ended with his mom in the hospital. Again, I left work and went. I don't even know her BUT I know him and he needed me.

I have learned that Caps read actions. They'll be there for you, but can you reciprocate? After all this had happened he became an open book. No matter the issue, he tells me and tries to help me. However, I'm a Leo and I don't need assistance lmao. I explain that a time "may" come when I do and he'll be the first I call.

He asks about my kids daily. This is HUGE to me. I've also learned that regardless of what you think they already know what you are going to say and/or do. I thank him constantly, provide words of encouragement and act goofy which is one of the best gifts Leos have.

I don't know if any of this helps, but it's just my experience. AND I've experienced the look from a Cap during sex. It's soooo intense. What is that? It's awesome whatever it is 🙂
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Posted by Lucriu
Keep in mind that being in a relationship is about playing the little games, doing whats expected, and not knowing what to do. Being in love is not the same, its being yourself and doing what you feel is right to you, its growing as a person, accepting yourself loving yourself and reflecting that on the person you love. The momment you feel like you have to supress your reall self to make the other person happy, its not love...



Absolutely! Great advice!!!
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If a cap has began to pull the dissapearing act theres only 2 courses of action. Wait it out, hope his deductions are made in your favor, or smack him where it hurts the most, his logic, make it so that his dissapearing act is illogical by erradicating what caused it in the first place, which in this case was your lack of congruency and your need to feel secure in the relationship ( tantrums for attention are viewed as just that) Good luck ^.^
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well...honestly I have exposed myself by telling him that I really like him and tell him how much this means to me.....what more could have I done.... I was the one he pushed away....am just thinking if he is on the same emotional level as I am.,...



Leo strong nailed it, we read actions because thats how we make deductions on how strong a persons emotions are. If you make time, when its HARD and not convinient thats like.... WOW to us... leostrong your cap is fucken lucky. Leo80 find a fire sign, really. Or someone with a leo moon. Theyll express themselves and need exactly the same love you do, kinda, depending on their venus, but there will be more of a connection
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What are you doing wrong?

You're chasing him

Chasing him looks like this. He's hot and cold, he's in and he's out, he's on and then he's off and yet you are going strong, 100% present and available which places you in a position to chase him as to create a balanced relationship.

If he's not pulling his part and you're pulling him along then you really don't stand a chance.

What you BEGIN with you END with thus if you start being the aggressor and chase him and court his child and give and give and not get 10% of that back in some way or another you LOSE because Cap males are leaders not followers. HE WILL NOT FOLLOW YOU.

Caps can be controlling on the low (covertly (sometimes overtly as well).

His lack of action is FORCING you to display your bad traits which can cause him to push his heels into the ground and not give until he wants to.

Think about it. What man wants a naggy, codependent, needy type of woman. Mainly none of them want to deal with it and if you DISPLAY that kind of attitude early on well he's not going to consistently stick around.

You are already pledging your allegiance to half ass behavior. What man wants a woman that will give her loyalty to him without him having to give it back. It's ridiculous.

Women look ridiculous pledging her allegiance to a man that's half ass and a man will never trust that kind of woman.

If I were you I'd get the hell out of there before you have to grovel even more. If you must stay, maintain a certain level of control over yourself which is appealing to a Cap.

Don't let him see you putting your happiness into his hands. Don't allow him to think he's running you, controlling you and your happiness.

The groveling may work but it makes you appear to be weak and unattractive as a mate which could lead to the in and out behavior.

Something I've learned about Caps is they have this firm sense of control over themselves which can cause a woman to feel out of sorts, feel taken for granted, feel out of control, feel as if she's falling in love b/c it's a very attractive quality to have.

It's that out of control feeling that actually keeps her attached to her Cap. Also it's competitive.

She must conquer and win and in all actuality she's losing when she maintains an attachment to a man that isn't displaying consistent interest.
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well...honestly I have exposed myself by telling him that I really like him and tell him how much this means to me.....what more could have I done.... I was the one he pushed away....am just thinking if he is on the same emotional level as I am.,...



Leo strong nailed it, we read actions because thats how we make deductions on how strong a persons emotions are. If you make time, when its HARD and not convinient thats like.... WOW to us... leostrong your cap is fucken lucky. Leo80 find a fire sign, really. Or someone with a leo moon. Theyll express themselves and need exactly the same love you do, kinda, depending on their venus, but there will be more of a connection
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Thanks Lucriu 🙂 I appreciate it.
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Btw if someone sent me a gift, and didnt deliver it herself, I'd think that I'm worth their money, but not their presense... except if it's a fridge... that I wouldn't mind being delivered ^.^



I agree; I was with a Cap for 8 years and my Cap didn't really care for extravagant gifts, his thing was the thought put in to it. He would take me baking him a cake, and pasting little sticky notes around the house saying how much I cared for him, over something expensive.
Getting his favorite comic book; or a calendar I got printed for him, with pin up girl pictures of myself; where things he liked. Poetry.....he loved my poetry; I sang to him for his birthday "Fever." By Ella Fitzgerald in front of all our friends on karaoke night once...things that came from the heart that's what mattered to him.

He was the type that would leave at 7 in the morning (cause he knows I'm not a morning person) go out and pick up my birthday gifts that he would hide god knows where and when I would wake up it would be laid out on the bed , roses, birthday card and my gift; he would always say "If I could give you the world I will cause that's what you mean to me." ...so the same amount of thought he would put in to anything and everything , he expected me to be just as thoughtful cause it shows how much he meant to me.
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"the groveling may work but it makes you appear to be weak and unattractive as a mate which could lead to the in and out behavior."

This is what i was talking about... Not everyone sees you exposing yourself as strenght... Only those that are truelly strong, and know the value of letting go of control can appreciate what I advised you to do but know, theres a chance he sees it just like this guy. In that case.... run... a none evolved cap will mind fuck you into the worst version of you there is and cast you aside once he's bored
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Lucriu... what else can I do... I didnt do it to impress him, I did genuinely, she stays in another city, he did mention to me that he would bring her down to meet me....and I always ask how she is doing...and that he should spend more time with her which he is unable to do...cause of his work... I told him that I'd like to meet her....what more would you like me to do...and if your advise helps me to get things back on track I would follow it...



I hope you don't mind my two sense 🙂 I'm a Leo and my boyfriend is a Cap. I can only offer advice based on what I've done and how I've reacted to things. Oh, and I'm the single parent, not him.

Two of the bigger things I've done:

1. He was sick. I left work immediately and went to take care of him. I obviously can't so this every time but wanted him to know I'd be there.

2. There was a family emergency which ended with his mom in the hospital. Again, I left work and went. I don't even know her BUT I know him and he needed me.

I have learned that Caps read actions. They'll be there for you, but can you reciprocate? After all this had happened he became an open book. No matter the issue, he tells me and tries to help me. However, I'm a Leo and I don't need assistance lmao. I explain that a time "may" come when I do and he'll be the first I call.

He asks about my kids daily. This is HUGE to me. I've also learned that regardless of what you think they already know what you are going to say and/or do. I thank him constantly, provide words of encouragement and act goofy which is one of the best gifts Leos have.

I don't know if any of this helps, but it's just my experience. AND I've experienced the look from a Cap during sex. It's soooo intense. What is that? It's awesome whatever it is 🙂
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This is so true cause my ex was the same way. Actions with him spoke louder then words. If you promised something and didn't follow through you better have a good explanation.
All of his friendships; in fact any relationship was based on that actions.
So the saying I Love You; was okay but show it. Like that song "More Then Words" that's exactly how it is.
Don't say it; show it.
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In all honesty I've never experienced the disappearing acts of a Cap. When me and my ex got together, we met; became friends; then started messing around; he tried to say I was his friend to a female friend of his and I was not having it. As soon as he hung up the phone I gave him a look of displeasure. We went out; and he tried acting like my boyfriend and I told him "I could have sworn you said I was a friend." And went to the dance floor to dance with another guy.

He got jealous, was really upset. When I was done dancing he pulled me to him, kissed me really aggressively and then told me"Your my girl." And we were official from there.
FYI- that was the only time I was like that. I never chased; he always initiated, that situation called for me to put my foot down_??
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Btw if someone sent me a gift, and didnt deliver it herself, I'd think that I'm worth their money, but not their presense... except if it's a fridge... that I wouldn't mind being delivered ^.^



I agree; I was with a Cap for 8 years and my Cap didn't really care for extravagant gifts, his thing was the thought put in to it. He would take me baking him a cake, and pasting little sticky notes around the house saying how much I cared for him, over something expensive.
Getting his favorite comic book; or a calendar I got printed for him, with pin up girl pictures of myself; where things he liked. Poetry.....he loved my poetry; I sang to him for his birthday "Fever." By Ella Fitzgerald in front of all our friends on karaoke night once...things that came from the heart that's what mattered to him.

He was the type that would leave at 7 in the morning (cause he knows I'm not a morning person) go out and pick up my birthday gifts that he would hide god knows where and when I would wake up it would be laid out on the bed , roses, birthday card and my gift; he would always say "If I could give you the world I will cause that's what you mean to me." ...so the same amount of thought he would put in to anything and everything , he expected me to be just as thoughtful cause it shows how much he meant to me.
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*sigh* Gotta love the Sag ladies!
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I had to delete my post bc I quoted Tiki's which exceeded the amount of characters. But what I had sai was that very early on I had a conversation with him about "needs". To me a need is food, water, air, etc. I made it very clear that I do not need a man, wants and needs are very different.
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A single certain person cannot complete you. The need for love can though. Two different statements. You won't die physically without any single person...you'll just be grumpy as hell until you get that replacement. And besides, wants can be a LOT stronger of a driving force than needs. *tosses a little love your way* hahaha
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@ Leostrong thank you for the advice...but in my case he doesn't tell me he is unwell until the next day....I did go once when he told me he was unwell....and he did appreciate that...well the distance started cause he started it...not me...I think I did everything right...and I think he knows that too!!!



I play Devil's Advocate constantly so don't mind me, but who cares who started it? There was a reason. Reason still exists and won't be fixed until its communicated. I know you tried to talk about it, but to men that's like cornering them. Something triggered the change and its a matter of figuring out what that something was/is and if its worth fixing.
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@tiki33 ...whoa I backed out cause I cannot chase a man to the extent where I will lose my self esteem... I did everything possible...you are absolutely right when you say that what is point of getting nothing in return hence I retracted....




I had to think about this for a moment...have you tried a compassionate approach? Not "we need to talk" but acknowledge his issue?

Even if it results in a text to say it (better I person but whatever) say something like, " I have noticed a little disconnect recently. I hope you are ok. If there is anything I may have inadvertently said or done, came we discuss it? You are important to me in every context and just want to make sure you are ok".

If or when he replies you then have a choice of whether or not it's fixable, something you can compromise or move on. People say a lot of things delivered with good intentions but are received quite the opposite. So you may have no clue what happened. This also allows some insight to his character. Best of luck, truly!!!!
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@tiki33 ...whoa I backed out cause I cannot chase a man to the extent where I will lose my self esteem... I did everything possible...you are absolutely right when you say that what is point of getting nothing in return hence I retracted....




I had to think about this for a moment...have you tried a compassionate approach? Not "we need to talk" but acknowledge his issue?

Even if it results in a text to say it (better I person but whatever) say something like, " I have noticed a little disconnect recently. I hope you are ok. If there is anything I may have inadvertently said or done, came we discuss it? You are important to me in every context and just want to make sure you are ok".

If or when he replies you then have a choice of whether or not it's fixable, something you can compromise or move on. People say a lot of things delivered with good intentions but are received quite the opposite. So you may have no clue what happened. This also allows some insight to his character. Best of luck, truly!!!!
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The hot and cold behavior in itself is the answer. There really is no amount of talking and wooing and cooing that will create permanent consistent behavior on his part.

The reality is..He has to want to be consistent with you, he has to want to naturally do this on his own in order for consistency to happen.

Usually when they don't stick around they are either not interested (enough), not interested in developing a relationship (at the moment/timing is wrong)which may means he's attracted to you physically which is why he continues to come back but physical attraction will not keep a man around consistently (there are exceptions).

Quit trying...You won't win him back by badgering him no matter how polite you try to do it it'll still reek of desperation.

Plus trying can make you look controlling as if you're not okay with the outcome so you're forcing it and that can actually provoke him to stay away from you.

If he's not in contact with you it's b/c he doesn't want to be in contact with you.

He know you exist. You don't have to remind him you're still around by contacting him, he know you're around and reminding him that you're around only creates more distance. It's like nudging him, it's annoying.

There is a method as to how to deal with ambivalent males but it's a lot of fucking work with little rewards to show for ones efforts.