Sun conjunct moon
This topic was created in the Chart Interpretation forum by Nouran20 on Monday, March 20, 2017 and has 25 replies.
My question is since we have some kind of sun/moon conjunction, Is that enough to make us an ideal couple?
Recently we had a little bit of an argument and he told me that lately we barely agree on anything and that we are somehow opposites. Even though I don't think we are entirely opposites but what he said somehow got me thinking. Are we really a good match? I though since my moon is the same as his sun that we could perhaps be soul mates...or maybe he said that because he was a little upset?
If anyone can advise me on our chart interpretation I would be grateful. I want to know if we are going to grow to be tiring for each other or a good match?
Chart compatibility :
http://www.astrotheme.com/astrological_composite_chart.php
ME:
Sun 27°32' Taurus
Moon 16°05' Sagittarius
Mercury 12°30' Taurus
Venus 20°24' Taurus
Mars 09°26' Aries
Jupiter 05°05' Virgo
Saturn 18°17' Aquarius
Uranus 17°45' Capricorn
Neptune 18°47' Capricorn
Pluto 21°13' Scorpio
Him:
Sun 08°16' Sagittarius
Moon 01°49' Capricorn
Mercury 19°12' Sagittarius
Venus 23°10' Capricorn
Mars 17°48' Scorpio
Jupiter 09°13' Cancer
Saturn 11°58' Capricorn
Uranus 03°55' Capricorn
Neptune 10°54' Capricorn
Pluto 15°53' Scorpio
Recently we had a little bit of an argument and he told me that lately we barely agree on anything and that we are somehow opposites. Even though I don't think we are entirely opposites but what he said somehow got me thinking. Are we really a good match? I though since my moon is the same as his sun that we could perhaps be soul mates...or maybe he said that because he was a little upset?
If anyone can advise me on our chart interpretation I would be grateful. I want to know if we are going to grow to be tiring for each other or a good match?
Chart compatibility :
http://www.astrotheme.com/astrological_composite_chart.php
ME:
Sun 27°32' Taurus
Moon 16°05' Sagittarius
Mercury 12°30' Taurus
Venus 20°24' Taurus
Mars 09°26' Aries
Jupiter 05°05' Virgo
Saturn 18°17' Aquarius
Uranus 17°45' Capricorn
Neptune 18°47' Capricorn
Pluto 21°13' Scorpio
Him:
Sun 08°16' Sagittarius
Moon 01°49' Capricorn
Mercury 19°12' Sagittarius
Venus 23°10' Capricorn
Mars 17°48' Scorpio
Jupiter 09°13' Cancer
Saturn 11°58' Capricorn
Uranus 03°55' Capricorn
Neptune 10°54' Capricorn
Pluto 15°53' Scorpio
when you read the following posts from me, please think of the possibility that Astrology could be BS, or that my short notes could actually be pages if enough time and knowledge are given.
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"we barely agree on anything and that we are somehow opposites."
I think the reason for this is that he has Mercury in Sag. His mind is working like crazy. He has questions which go over the limits. Your Mercury in Taurus is focused and slow and appropriate for the real life. His thoughts are good for a life on the clouds.
Once my brother who has Mercury in Aquarius asked me a question: why do we call a horse a horse. I answered him and he was not satisfied. I tried and tried and tried. He was not satisfied with my answer. So Mercury debates are difficult. Even if a good match like Air (Aqua) and Fire (Sag) can fail to understand each other. So you need to look beyond it.
The philosphy of life: Jupiter.
You have Jupiter in Virgo and his is in Cancer. by degree they build a sextile. this is good news. he tends to charity. don't critisize that. cause Jupiter is in a good place when it is in Cancer. It can bring you both good luck.
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"we barely agree on anything and that we are somehow opposites."
I think the reason for this is that he has Mercury in Sag. His mind is working like crazy. He has questions which go over the limits. Your Mercury in Taurus is focused and slow and appropriate for the real life. His thoughts are good for a life on the clouds.
Once my brother who has Mercury in Aquarius asked me a question: why do we call a horse a horse. I answered him and he was not satisfied. I tried and tried and tried. He was not satisfied with my answer. So Mercury debates are difficult. Even if a good match like Air (Aqua) and Fire (Sag) can fail to understand each other. So you need to look beyond it.
The philosphy of life: Jupiter.
You have Jupiter in Virgo and his is in Cancer. by degree they build a sextile. this is good news. he tends to charity. don't critisize that. cause Jupiter is in a good place when it is in Cancer. It can bring you both good luck.
What is Rising sign and North Node of you both?
Another thing is that you both are fated to have fights. Cause Mars is the ruler of Aries and Scorpio. Now look, yours is in Aries. His in Scorpio. Don't get discouraged by these fights.
One origin of tension is his Saturn in Capricorn square to your Mars in Aries. Most likely he goes overboard with his sense of responsibility, structure, order and discipline. He might often critisize you why you are so impulsive or whatever the Caps don't like about the Aries.
This tension is intensified by a being mutual. Your Saturn is square to his Mars as well. As if you were a genius who does not need to have verything neet and ordered. Someone who has trust in the system. Sag Moon intensify it. But his Mars does not trust that everything is in the right place. He has to ask questions, do inquiry, destroy it and build it all again.
I must say Saturn aspects are very important for a stable relationship. So here you have bad cards. But if you look at SN-NN axis, also AC-DC, maybe there's a saving.
This tension is intensified by a being mutual. Your Saturn is square to his Mars as well. As if you were a genius who does not need to have verything neet and ordered. Someone who has trust in the system. Sag Moon intensify it. But his Mars does not trust that everything is in the right place. He has to ask questions, do inquiry, destroy it and build it all again.
I must say Saturn aspects are very important for a stable relationship. So here you have bad cards. But if you look at SN-NN axis, also AC-DC, maybe there's a saving.
Another point is his Pluto square to your Saturn. Scorp vs. Aqua. So he come across as dominant and forceful to you. This is something your Sun doesn't like. nor your Moon. nor Venus. Sag placements have an alergic reaction to direct comanding. Indirectly informed of the wishes of their lovers, they can serve.
If you are attracted to his dominance, you need to find ways to silence your Sun and Venus. It seems Fixed signs can better get along with each other, if troubled with squares and oppositions. So be aware: it will be difficult but if your mind is set on this then that can survive anything.
If you are attracted to his dominance, you need to find ways to silence your Sun and Venus. It seems Fixed signs can better get along with each other, if troubled with squares and oppositions. So be aware: it will be difficult but if your mind is set on this then that can survive anything.
Another weakness is: his Sun in Sag (8°) square to your Jupiter in Virgo (5°). It can happen that he finds you take only small steps, do not dare to do more, maybe you critisize him and he is permanently busy with justifying himself.
Generally it is said about the Sag sign, that when we (I have multiple Sag placements) find a new truth and are enthusiastic about it, that we start to mission those around us. And we can exagerate and act as fanatic. Here the only thing you can do is to wait. Cause with Sag Mercury he will not stay with that truth for long. He'll find a new one. probably. it's not sure. cause Cap Moon and Venus might want to stay at that point.
You can tell your part, discuss to some extent and then go wear your pyjamas and wait that he turns the lights off and come to bed. Don't be stabborn. All these truths and ideas are nothing compared with love.
Ok, if it's about children and how to raise them, I don't know what to say. Some women show here the limits. Some have adapted to their men so that ... IDK. You'll see.
Generally it is said about the Sag sign, that when we (I have multiple Sag placements) find a new truth and are enthusiastic about it, that we start to mission those around us. And we can exagerate and act as fanatic. Here the only thing you can do is to wait. Cause with Sag Mercury he will not stay with that truth for long. He'll find a new one. probably. it's not sure. cause Cap Moon and Venus might want to stay at that point.
You can tell your part, discuss to some extent and then go wear your pyjamas and wait that he turns the lights off and come to bed. Don't be stabborn. All these truths and ideas are nothing compared with love.
Ok, if it's about children and how to raise them, I don't know what to say. Some women show here the limits. Some have adapted to their men so that ... IDK. You'll see.
His Venus conjunct your Uranus might be GOOD NEWS.
If you change during the relationships, he can adapt to the new situation. This is a supporting aspect.
His Venus trine your Sun is good news too. Probably he finds you very feminine and attractive and loveable.
If you change during the relationships, he can adapt to the new situation. This is a supporting aspect.
His Venus trine your Sun is good news too. Probably he finds you very feminine and attractive and loveable.
There's no major aspect between the two moons. Maybe you both can stay in a long term relationship. Then after 20-30 years he breaks out to connect to a water moon. Maybe you get bored with his grumpy Moon and break out to connect to a fun loving Gemini Moon. IDK.
I guess with all the Capricorn and Earth placements you both have, you'll stay together. A little flirt here and there. But no big act of cheating. As long as his Jupiter in Cancer is engaged in charity projects and his Sag Mercury is busy with learning new things, hard work or travels, that could be enough. One could look at the houses and see which subjects are more on his or your plate.
I guess with all the Capricorn and Earth placements you both have, you'll stay together. A little flirt here and there. But no big act of cheating. As long as his Jupiter in Cancer is engaged in charity projects and his Sag Mercury is busy with learning new things, hard work or travels, that could be enough. One could look at the houses and see which subjects are more on his or your plate.
residual supporting aspects:
sag sun trine aries mars.
cap moon trine jup in virg.
sag mercury conjunct moon merc.
cap v trine taurus v.
cap v conj. cap nept.
the last one is very supporting. one of you has an idealistic view of the other. there's a connection under the surface. I've forgotten who has the illusions. the neptune person or the other one. you could do a web search.
maybe there's more. but I'm tired.
sag sun trine aries mars.
cap moon trine jup in virg.
sag mercury conjunct moon merc.
cap v trine taurus v.
cap v conj. cap nept.
the last one is very supporting. one of you has an idealistic view of the other. there's a connection under the surface. I've forgotten who has the illusions. the neptune person or the other one. you could do a web search.
maybe there's more. but I'm tired.
Posted by DwellingOnMoveI am not sure what his rising sign is because i don't know the time of his birth.
What is Rising sign and North Node of you both?
But these are our birth dates:
ME: 18/05/1992
Him: 30/11/1989
Hope that is helpful enough?
Yes, your charts are a good match. You have the sun-moon conjunction and the sun-moon trine the other way around. You seem seem like opposites in some regards but sometimes opposites attract, and sometimes that's what someone needs to bring parts of them out. It depends on the dynamic.
The main difficulty I see from your charts is that your moon's are very different, which means that although you may have an understanding of each other from a surface point of view, when it comes down to your actual emotions, you guys deal with things differently. Your Sag moon likes freedom and not being tied down. You're happy-go-lucky and have an overall optimistic view of life. However, his Cap moon has a more serious nature, likes security and stability, may be slow, and can be prone to melancholy/periods of depression. You can probably still understand that part of him since you're a Taurus.
Your venus signs compliment each other because they're a similar love style , which is good. I also see that he has his venus conjunct his saturn (I have the same aspect) which make someone have difficulty in expressing their true feelings and with intimacy.
The main difficulty I see from your charts is that your moon's are very different, which means that although you may have an understanding of each other from a surface point of view, when it comes down to your actual emotions, you guys deal with things differently. Your Sag moon likes freedom and not being tied down. You're happy-go-lucky and have an overall optimistic view of life. However, his Cap moon has a more serious nature, likes security and stability, may be slow, and can be prone to melancholy/periods of depression. You can probably still understand that part of him since you're a Taurus.
Your venus signs compliment each other because they're a similar love style , which is good. I also see that he has his venus conjunct his saturn (I have the same aspect) which make someone have difficulty in expressing their true feelings and with intimacy.
Posted by Nouran20Posted by DwellingOnMoveI am not sure what his rising sign is because i don't know the time of his birth.
What is Rising sign and North Node of you both?
But these are our birth dates:
ME: 18/05/1992
Him: 30/11/1989
Hope that is helpful enough?click to expand
The Nodes are as follows:
him Aqua 20
her Cap 2
I'd see his Moon conjuction your North Node, both at 2 degree of Capricorn a good thing. The theories about Nodes I've exctracted from Internet sources say
- this encounter is of special importance to your lives; not a short-lived dating case.
- your fall-back character is more something like a Cancer: moody, protective and very emotional; it would be worth for you to try to adapt to Capricornian traits; his steady Cap Moon is of great help for that matter.
- this is why you met; to learn from each other.
- his fall-back character traits are more like those of Leo; that is in square to your Venus; so your behavior in showing love is of no help for him to move from Leo to Aqua.
- my brother has Sn Leo and my mother had SN Aqua. He acts as a boss and requires attention. She'd better had acted as one. She was taken for granted. This is how I bring the theory with the reality I know. failures possible.
Posted by DwellingOnMovecan i just deeply thank you for the great amount of research you have done..you really moved me
Another thing is that you both are fated to have fights. Cause Mars is the ruler of Aries and Scorpio. Now look, yours is in Aries. His in Scorpio. Don't get discouraged by these fights.
I dunno but when we fight I feel so exhausted and tired, even depressed..I get panicky as well. If he gets mad I could get really panicky and depressed for longer period of time...if we fight/argue and then he speaks to me right after in a nice way and things are smoothed out quickly then my panic calms down quickly.
Do you think that is related to my mars being in aries and his in Scorpio?
I just don't know what is the best way to calm myself down, have control over my panics...I just don't know why i feel this way and i wonder if he also feels the same?
We don't live together to when we fight its usually over the phone so I don't know how he really reacts in real life.
Posted by DwellingOnMovewhat do you mean by "silence your sun and venus"? Im sorry I don't think i caught that...i really hope I can make it survive.
Another point is his Pluto square to your Saturn. Scorp vs. Aqua. So he come across as dominant and forceful to you. This is something your Sun doesn't like. nor your Moon. nor Venus. Sag placements have an alergic reaction to direct comanding. Indirectly informed of the wishes of their lovers, they can serve.
If you are attracted to his dominance, you need to find ways to silence your Sun and Venus. It seems Fixed signs can better get along with each other, if troubled with squares and oppositions. So be aware: it will be difficult but if your mind is set on this then that can survive anything.
I don't find him dominant at all, perhaps he is hiding that side? He actually seems like he is open and free to let people to do whatever they want. But I think sometimes he wants me to be similar to him.
Posted by DwellingOnMovewhen you say new truth do you like new plans in life?
Another weakness is: his Sun in Sag (8°) square to your Jupiter in Virgo (5°). It can happen that he finds you take only small steps, do not dare to do more, maybe you critisize him and he is permanently busy with justifying himself.
Generally it is said about the Sag sign, that when we (I have multiple Sag placements) find a new truth and are enthusiastic about it, that we start to mission those around us. And we can exagerate and act as fanatic. Here the only thing you can do is to wait. Cause with Sag Mercury he will not stay with that truth for long. He'll find a new one. probably. it's not sure. cause Cap Moon and Venus might want to stay at that point.
You can tell your part, discuss to some extent and then go wear your pyjamas and wait that he turns the lights off and come to bed. Don't be stabborn. All these truths and ideas are nothing compared with love.
Ok, if it's about children and how to raise them, I don't know what to say. Some women show here the limits. Some have adapted to their men so that ... IDK. You'll see.
Posted by DwellingOnMoveohhh i really would hate it if he flirted with someone else, and i would hate for us to break up in 20/30 years...
There's no major aspect between the two moons. Maybe you both can stay in a long term relationship. Then after 20-30 years he breaks out to connect to a water moon. Maybe you get bored with his grumpy Moon and break out to connect to a fun loving Gemini Moon. IDK.
I guess with all the Capricorn and Earth placements you both have, you'll stay together. A little flirt here and there. But no big act of cheating. As long as his Jupiter in Cancer is engaged in charity projects and his Sag Mercury is busy with learning new things, hard work or travels, that could be enough. One could look at the houses and see which subjects are more on his or your plate.
Posted by DwellingOnMoveCan you further elaborate on this point because im not sure i fully get it "his fall-back character traits are more like those of Leo; that is in square to your Venus; so your behavior in showing love is of no help for him to move from Leo to Aqua."Posted by Nouran20Posted by DwellingOnMoveI am not sure what his rising sign is because i don't know the time of his birth.
What is Rising sign and North Node of you both?
But these are our birth dates:
ME: 18/05/1992
Him: 30/11/1989
Hope that is helpful enough?
The Nodes are as follows:
him Aqua 20
her Cap 2
I'd see his Moon conjuction your North Node, both at 2 degree of Capricorn a good thing. The theories about Nodes I've exctracted from Internet sources say
- this encounter is of special importance to your lives; not a short-lived dating case.
- your fall-back character is more something like a Cancer: moody, protective and very emotional; it would be worth for you to try to adapt to Capricornian traits; his steady Cap Moon is of great help for that matter.
- this is why you met; to learn from each other.
- his fall-back character traits are more like those of Leo; that is in square to your Venus; so your behavior in showing love is of no help for him to move from Leo to Aqua.
- my brother has Sn Leo and my mother had SN Aqua. He acts as a boss and requires attention. She'd better had acted as one. She was taken for granted. This is how I bring the theory with the reality I know. failures possible.click to expand
what does that mean?
Posted by Nouran20
... elaborate on ... "his fall-back character traits are more like those of Leo; that is in square to your Venus; so your behavior in showing love is of no help for him to move from Leo to Aqua."
...
I think you'll understand my point or alternatively get an idea of your own if you read this page:
Posted by DwellingOnMove
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http://www.truenode.org/north-node-signs/north-node-in-aquarius/click to expand
plus Venus in Taurus for example from here: https://cafeastrology.com/natal/venusinsigns.html
Generally it points to "square signs challenge each other". here Taurus challenges Leo. This is not end of the world. It's just losing one point. But if somewhere else in the synastry there is a good point the challenge can be overcome.
Posted by Nouran20Posted by DwellingOnMoveohhh i really would hate it if he flirted with someone else, and i would hate for us to break up in 20/30 years...
... no major aspect between the two moons. ...
I guess with all the Capricorn and Earth placements you both have, you'll stay together. ...click to expand
I don't know. Nowadays half of marriages lead to divorce. Not seldom it comes from the wife.
I just wanted to say that your Moons have no aspect. Neither a challenging aspect. Nor one which could connect you both deeply. As if romance were missing. As if the connection is more suitable for a convenience marriage. Marriage out of reason. Which is not necessarily a bad thing. It depends on what you prefer.
ok, maybe some type of romantic connection comes from his Moon in Earth sign and your Venus and Mercury in one too. It does not look that hopeless.
Posted by Nouran20
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when you say new truth do you like new plans in life?
no, not directly.
I meant only things like philosophy, moral, diets, political orientation. well, sometimes these things have an indirect effect plans.
My point was the tendency to debate hard about opinions, without forcing it on somebody else. I don't expect violence in this corner. but who am I to know?
"can i just deeply thank you for the great amount of research you have done..you really moved me "
you're welcome. I noticed that you were serious and have been looking for answers in several threads. So I decided to put time into it. I'm afraid this is only a glance.
"when we fight I feel so exhausted and tired, even depressed..I get panicky as well. If he gets mad I could get really panicky and depressed for longer period of time..."
ah, that is sad to hear. He acts as a young man. A young girl like you should not face such problems. You certailny have more options. He's too unexperienced to know your true value. Young pride.... Have you ever told him about your panic after those quarrels?
If he is living in an industrial country and you not, there are chances that you misinterpret his words. This is culture clash and can vanish after the first year.
"if we fight/argue and then he speaks to me right after in a nice way and things are smoothed out quickly then my panic calms down quickly."
well, it is his duty to calm you down (well, he was the trigger). good that he manages it.
"Do you think that is related to my mars being in aries and his in Scorpio?"
chances are. both signs don't shy away from challenges. I say yes.
"I just don't know what is the best way to calm myself down, have control over my panics...I just don't know why i feel this way and i wonder if he also feels the same?"
maybe you have seen uncomfortable scenes during your childhood? that some grown-ups were gross to each other? maybe your Moon hates it when seriousness takes over. Sag Moon is fun-loving. Maybe you like very much this marriage to happen and see it in danger whenever... Or you are not sure if it gets worse once you are with him far from family support. It is his job to calm you down. Or you put a brake on the sensitivity.
" you're welcome. I noticed that you were serious and have been looking for answers in several threads. So I decided to put time into it. I'm afraid this is only a glance.
"when we fight I feel so exhausted and tired, even depressed..I get panicky as well. If he gets mad I could get really panicky and depressed for longer period of time..."
ah, that is sad to hear. He acts as a young man. A young girl like you should not face such problems. You certailny have more options. He's too unexperienced to know your true value. Young pride.... Have you ever told him about your panic after those quarrels?
If he is living in an industrial country and you not, there are chances that you misinterpret his words. This is culture clash and can vanish after the first year.
"if we fight/argue and then he speaks to me right after in a nice way and things are smoothed out quickly then my panic calms down quickly."
well, it is his duty to calm you down (well, he was the trigger). good that he manages it.
"Do you think that is related to my mars being in aries and his in Scorpio?"
chances are. both signs don't shy away from challenges. I say yes.
"I just don't know what is the best way to calm myself down, have control over my panics...I just don't know why i feel this way and i wonder if he also feels the same?"
maybe you have seen uncomfortable scenes during your childhood? that some grown-ups were gross to each other? maybe your Moon hates it when seriousness takes over. Sag Moon is fun-loving. Maybe you like very much this marriage to happen and see it in danger whenever... Or you are not sure if it gets worse once you are with him far from family support. It is his job to calm you down. Or you put a brake on the sensitivity.
Posted by Nouran20
... i don't know the time of his birth...
With this there is a hope for the Moon-Moon connection. If you were born in the evening and he was born in early hours of the day, the your Moons can have conjunction. For example 24 degree of Sag for you and 28 degree of Sag for him. There we say conjunction with an Orb of 4.
Well, Sag is a Fire sign like Aries. It can fuel to fights too. But not that intensive. It changes very easily to fun and joking again.
Posted by DwellingOnMoveThank you again for taking me seriously...I really appreciate the help.
"can i just deeply thank you for the great amount of research you have done..you really moved me
you're welcome. I noticed that you were serious and have been looking for answers in several threads. So I decided to put time into it. I'm afraid this is only a glance.
"when we fight I feel so exhausted and tired, even depressed..I get panicky as well. If he gets mad I could get really panicky and depressed for longer period of time..."
ah, that is sad to hear. He acts as a young man. A young girl like you should not face such problems. You certailny have more options. He's too unexperienced to know your true value. Young pride.... Have you ever told him about your panic after those quarrels?
If he is living in an industrial country and you not, there are chances that you misinterpret his words. This is culture clash and can vanish after the first year.
"if we fight/argue and then he speaks to me right after in a nice way and things are smoothed out quickly then my panic calms down quickly."
well, it is his duty to calm you down (well, he was the trigger). good that he manages it.
"Do you think that is related to my mars being in aries and his in Scorpio?"
chances are. both signs don't shy away from challenges. I say yes.
"I just don't know what is the best way to calm myself down, have control over my panics...I just don't know why i feel this way and i wonder if he also feels the same?"
maybe you have seen uncomfortable scenes during your childhood? that some grown-ups were gross to each other? maybe your Moon hates it when seriousness takes over. Sag Moon is fun-loving. Maybe you like very much this marriage to happen and see it in danger whenever... Or you are not sure if it gets worse once you are with him far from family support. It is his job to calm you down. Or you put a brake on the sensitivity.
Yes you can say I really like this marriage to happen and the thought of it getting screwed up scares me a lot...my parents have struggled in their marriage since long time ago and I really don't want to end up like them. I really like this guy (my friend) But also I scared I don't know whether its worth it to go through this marriage or not, to keep working on our negatives to improve our relationship? Or to perhaps move on...I don't know if this marriage happens it its going to be an exhausting one full of arguments or a peaceful one with a few ups and downs that can be handled.
All I know is that I like him and I also like his family a lot...but...not sure if its going to be serious or not.
ill be sharing more of my experiences with him and im more than glad to hear from you again.
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So almost a year ago, I dated this guy for a few short months. we REALLY liked each other and everything was great until he started pulling away.
While we were dating/talking, He told me he never liked anyone like that before, how i was perfect to him
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Joined: Mar 19, 2017 · Topics: 1 · Posts: 3